Is it really just Calories In, Calories Out? What do you think?
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I agree with all that; I think most people do not have a clue on how much one really eats. I know from personal experience that I have eaten at least 3,000 calories a day days on end when I was gaining weight. Using a food scale and tracking made me realize (and correct) the number of calories taken in on a daily basic and allowed me to properly lose weight (approximately 60 pounds).
I have been in maintenance mode for about a year and track my body weight daily. If I get outside a -/+ 5 pound range, then I take action otherwise I record my food and enjoy my life!
YMMV.
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It's a good discussion, though.0
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I just want to point out that there have been several MFP blogs lately on this subject, most saying that the type of calories do matter. I am also beginning to think that for some reason that strict CICO works a bit better for a man than a woman. My DH lost 50 pounds doing CICO only on MFP and without breaking a sweat and has been on maintenance for two years. Like golfmonk he just simply adjusts his calories and can easily maintain his target weight. For me it has not been that simple. I have to fight for every pound after I lost my first 90 pounds using just CICO. And yes, I weigh everything in grams and record diligently. As I mentioned above, I am going to try a lower carb diet when we return from vacation. It will be interesting to see if that changes anything with my weight loss.0
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I think women's mileage does vary. When we are young, our cycles cause flux. When we are mature, our lack of cycles cause flux. Of course, it isn't the only contributor. Having children can do a number on one's body. And, apparently, so can not having children. We just have more complicated physiologies and are not just smaller men who should get results from the same methods men use.. It can all ne overcome, in regards to weight, but it does take more effort and is a right pain in the *kitten*.0
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HA. I typed in a r s e and it put little stars in its place. And I used that word cause I figured it was more acceptable!0
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I wish we had a universally easy and accurate way of measuring body fat. I think that is the one missing component in determining both CI and CO....after all, fat doesn't need or burn calories, but lean matter does. Yet it seems that all programs start with just weight in determining CICO. A woman my age, height, and weight should have different calorie requirements at 30% fat than at 40% yet that doesn't seem to get taken into account.0
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I love the video. I live by his 'study of 1' theory. A good lawyer won't ask a question without knowing the answer. A person losing weight can use the same approach. If I am going to lose weight and keep it off, I am doing something forever. This is not a temporary thing. Forever provides ample time for experiments. If I have a question and can conceive of a way to answer that question, I would much rather answer my question by experience. My agenda is to do what's best for me. No one else has this agenda.0
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I wish we had a universally easy and accurate way of measuring body fat. I think that is the one missing component in determining both CI and CO....after all, fat doesn't need or burn calories, but lean matter does. Yet it seems that all programs start with just weight in determining CICO. A woman my age, height, and weight should have different calorie requirements at 30% fat than at 40% yet that doesn't seem to get taken into account.
@KerryITD
Ref the bolded part - that's not actually true.
Fat cells do require energy to maintain themselves, about 2 cals / pound / day.
Compared to about 6 cals / pound / day for muscle.
Not a great difference really, nothing like as significant as the bro science merchants in the gym would tell you!
Now if you could add a few pounds of kidney or heart at 400 cals/lb/day that would be handy.
There are TDEE formulas that take body fat percentage into account but as you say it's hard and/or expensive to get accurate BF% estimates.
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This article is obnoxious0 -
Part of me wants to believe it's all CICO but then I see folks like my brother-in-law... He's about the same age as me, a couple of inches shorter and he is svelte despite the fact that each day, he eats twice as much as me. Seriously. He never gains an ounce. sigh...
Thin people can have clogged arteries too. I hope he is really healthy.
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So far, so good. At family events, he is usually one of the first to start eating and always the last to finish...Part of me wants to believe it's all CICO but then I see folks like my brother-in-law... He's about the same age as me, a couple of inches shorter and he is svelte despite the fact that each day, he eats twice as much as me. Seriously. He never gains an ounce. sigh...
Thin people can have clogged arteries too. I hope he is really healthy.
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Uncle Mac,
When I first met my former sister in-law she looked 20 years younger than she was actually! The whole family seemed wired that way. Upon my divorce, my former husband finally promised to eat better and he looked amazing! His sister died two months later. So, reach out and see if he will take your advice.
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Four years ago, his maternal uncle suffered a heart attack. It looked like he was going to pull through but then he had a second attack which proved fatal. My bro-in-law resembled his uncle and I think this served as a wakeup call. He still out-eats me but I'm fairly sure he's seeing his family physician regularly.Uncle Mac,
When I first met my former sister in-law she looked 20 years younger than she was actually! The whole family seemed wired that way. Upon my divorce, my former husband finally promised to eat better and he looked amazing! His sister died two months later. So, reach out and see if he will take your advice.
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That is sad, Uncle Mac
But it is becoming clearer to me every day - that I can barely take care of myself. I don't mean anything bad by that. I just mean, I used to cook, clean, grocer, errands and work 4 professional jobs. Now I am about twice that age and I'm sure I didn't have nearly enough self care. So right now I am being a little selfish and beginning to figure out (all over again) what it takes to be really good to me.0 -
Taking care of oneself is only selfish when it's done to the exclusion or detriment of others.
Is there a word for taking care of others to the exclusion and detriment of oneself?
I spent the past couple of decades being the sane parent in a dysfunctional marriage. I became obese by not caring for myself as I spent all of my energy either working or taking care of my family. Now I'm working out and doing yoga most nights and slowly regaining my sense of self.0 -
There is a reason why they tell people to put the air mask on themselves before their children on an airplane. Your time serving others is not wasted time. Your loved ones are watching and they are blessed when you are blessed.0
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You can't fulfill your commitments to others before you make a commitment to yourself.0
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