I agree with @FIT_Goat on those not being high on my list either. It's just so much easier to get a trustworthy quality with butter and coconut oil.
Olive oil is one that unless you look into how to determine a good quality to buy, I would just skip altogether. I can't remember all the tips, but I know one of them was it should be in a bottle that doesn't allow light to pass through. I've never seen one like that at a typical grocery store.

When I think of "unhealthy fats", what comes to mind is margarine and all kinds of vegetable oils. Pretty much everything you find a reference to how healthy it is on the label. Lol

Meat and cheese and more meat and additional cheese... all fried in coconut oil and covered in butter. And eggs. Did I mention meat and cheese? I use avocado to keep the GI tract moving. I have to be careful with fats, because too much and my GI tract is basically a water slide. Yeah, that's a mental image for your day.

I don't eat a lot of veggies, but the ones I do eat are quality. Also, they're probably covered in butter. And cheese.

Eggs, meat, lots of cheese, and bacon (which I think should be its own food group).

You guys might like this. It's a review of how we get fatty liver:
Modulation of hepatic steatosis by dietary fatty acids

Basically, we have three sources of fat: diet, adipose, and DNL (liver makes fat from carbs).

And we have one way to burn fat: mitochondria.

So which fats are bad for you? All of them! When we're in a state of excess. Those poor mitochondria can only process so much, then bad things happen.

FIT_Goat wrote: »

ogmomma2012 wrote: »

FIT_Goat wrote: »

So, where are you getting your healthy fats from?

Can I just say how much I hate the term "healthy fats"? I rank it right up there with the "Ministry of Truth" from 1984. People use the term "healthy fats" almost exclusively when referring to those fats which are bad for our health. All those "healthy" non-saturated fats we have dumped into our diet are the worst possible things for our health. It is as if asbestos was associated with healthy lungs and people kept saying "how are you getting your healthy asbestos particles?"

Animals fats ARE the healthy fats. How do we get them? By eating meats (and cheese, if you're into that).

This has nothing to do with vegetables (meh), but everything to do with what fat sources you should be focusing on. You should focus on those fats which we have adopted to eat, not those we are told have been manufactured to be healthier for us. I am growing more and more convinced that everything everyone believes about health is exactly the opposite from what actually is true.

Avocados and olive oil are manufactured? Please explain. o.o

First, I don't trust Olive oil to actually be Olive oil. There is rampant adulteration with cheaper vegetable oils. While it is possible Olive oil isn't bad for you, what you are buying and consuming from the store isn't real Olive oil.

Second, avocados are not the first thing the man on the street will picture when someone says healthy fats. That is something that comes with more nutrition experience.

Personally, I don't rank either of those high on my healthy list. That is even though they aren't 'manufactured' in the sense you are thinking of.

I completely agree regarding olive oil. It's really challenging to find genuine olive oil as unfortunately there are no testing standards for purity and there is a lot of fraud, especially with large producers who are mixing olives from a large variety of (possibly questionable) sources. From what I learned when I lived in the US, California olive oil tends to be much more reliable than olive oil from Spain or Italy. I love olive oil and now that I'm in the UK, with no access to California olive oil, I was at a loss for a long time. I recently found a small importer here now who specialises in oils, vinegar and liquor, he has a "liquid deli" and offers a selection of a few absolutely amazing single estate olive oils from a couple of small farms, which is the most reliable way to buy. He's personally visited the farms and seen their production process. They grow their own olives and process their own oil, so no third party is involved, minimizing the likelihood of fraud. It could still occur of course, but you can really taste the difference, it's absolutely delicious.

My fats come from coconut, meat and cheese/full fat dairy. I also eat nuts and avocados but they are not my major sources of fats.

I don't like olive oil. Shhh. It is dangerous to admit that in public nowadays. It's almost sacrilegious to say that one doesn't like it.

PaleoInScotland wrote: »

It's a heck of a lot healthier than the cake and cookies diet! Lol

Hahahah very true!


I don't eat a lot of cheese at all.. A lot of my fat comes from my BPC lol. But I love fatty meat so that would be my next source and I love days I get mayo in diet because it adds fats in to (might not be as healthy but it's my way).

Milder olive oil is cheaper. I live in olive growing country and buy locally, preferring the strongly fruity olive oils over the peppery and bitter ones. I never liked butter on my vegetables, only on bread. Now I like it in my coffee, which is how I like coconut oil too. I only cook with coconut oil if I'm making something like coconut flour pancakes or Indian coconut green beans. I have high oleic sunflower oil as a flavorless cooking oil with a high smoke point.

MyPrimalLife wrote: »

yes i do eat meat & cheese, but i also eat very healthy greens & veggies & fruits. this diet has NOT stopped me from eating healthy, in fact, i would dare say that i eat healthier than i did before. instead of a pop-tart, yogurt, cereal and fat-free milk, i now eat meat, eggs, cheese, fruits, veggies, etc. as a sample of breakfast. i think the general population is misinformed about this diet (as was I)

**sorry i didn't quite answer your question: cream cheese, butter, olive oil, nuts, meat & lovely HWC

@MyPrimalLife I SO hear you! I was eating CICO, which did help me lose 40 pounds, but I still ate things that were NOT healthier choices because I was looking at calorie value, not nutritional value. Now I feel like I am more aware of what's IN my food and whether I want to eat something that's ultimately going to make me feel good.

In the grand scheme of this conversation I think people have boxed LCHF into what used to be Atkins, which I did in college and Yes, I lost weight and Yes, I ate a lot of "meat and cheese", but the way I looked at it was as a diet, not a WOE and when push came to shove on wanting to eat things that weren't meat and cheese, I didn't know how to handle it and gained all that I lost PLUS another 15-20 pounds. Which I think is largely what people see LCHF to be. It's so much more than that, but again, they've placed it in a box for what they deem it to be. Their loss!

BRobertson23 wrote: »

MyPrimalLife wrote: »

yes i do eat meat & cheese, but i also eat very healthy greens & veggies & fruits. this diet has NOT stopped me from eating healthy, in fact, i would dare say that i eat healthier than i did before. instead of a pop-tart, yogurt, cereal and fat-free milk, i now eat meat, eggs, cheese, fruits, veggies, etc. as a sample of breakfast. i think the general population is misinformed about this diet (as was I)

**sorry i didn't quite answer your question: cream cheese, butter, olive oil, nuts, meat & lovely HWC

@MyPrimalLife I SO hear you! I was eating CICO, which did help me lose 40 pounds, but I still ate things that were NOT healthier choices because I was looking at calorie value, not nutritional value. Now I feel like I am more aware of what's IN my food and whether I want to eat something that's ultimately going to make me feel good.

In the grand scheme of this conversation I think people have boxed LCHF into what used to be Atkins, which I did in college and Yes, I lost weight and Yes, I ate a lot of "meat and cheese", but the way I looked at it was as a diet, not a WOE and when push came to shove on wanting to eat things that weren't meat and cheese, I didn't know how to handle it and gained all that I lost PLUS another 15-20 pounds. Which I think is largely what people see LCHF to be. It's so much more than that, but again, they've placed it in a box for what they deem it to be. Their loss!

I think these are good points, and probably part of why I never considered myself all that "low carb". My diet starts with vegetables and works out from there.