4031isaiah wrote: »

I had a hankering for pancakes this morning and don't do dairy so I looked up dairy-free "low carb" pancakes. The recipe called for coconut flour which I don't use often and got from a bulk food store so there is no nutritional info on the bag. I followed the recipe and wolfed down one small pancake (the recipe made 6). Before I ate another, I decided to log the first one. To my shock, I discovered that the actual total grams of carbs for the entire batch is 78 and one pancake has 13g of carbs! (Most of which came from the coconut flour). I went back to double check the recipe and nutrition info in the website and realized it said NET carbs! I googled that and discovered that "net" adds a totally different meaning to carb calculating that just cost me nearly my entire day's allotment!

I feel tricked! I'm so angry and still hungry!

I'm surprised coconut flour had that many carbs. It's considered low carb. What's the fiber count?

Always depends on how big (and thick) the pancake is. The ever popular serving size. I bought a bag of coconut flour a year ago. I still have all but 1/4 cup remaining. 1/4 cup (35 grams) has 21 total carbs and 13 grams of fiber thus 8 net carbs. 1/4 cup of coconut flour wouldn't make a very satisfying pancake to me and it would be 8 net carbs for just the coconut flour. No wonder I still have it sitting in the refrigerator a year later. I need to just throw it away.

Everything counts in the end. JMHO.

If you can exercise and burn off those net carbs it will not impact your blood glucose level compared to letting normal non-exercise body functions burn off the carbs

Carbs are just high octane fuel for your engine, or muscles. Some jogging or cycling buns off carbs.

It is good to have the option of once in a while just burning off the calories you took in with exercise

At the end of the day my body does. Or know why I have met 20 carbs worth of glucose in the system. It does not know if I consumed only 20 or at 100 and burnt off 80.

I know that sugar alcohols are not like bacon for my diet. Veggie fibrous carbs really do seem to be magically invisible!

Here is my simple solution - don't eat foods that are just fake versions of crappy carbage.

I do think there is much variability from person to person on how fiber as well as sugar alcohols are processed in terms of both BG and insulin. That said, I think everyone is safer using total and then, once adapted testing to see how different foods affect you personally.

However, based on what I consistently see in threads here and elsewhere is these fake versions cause cravings which lead to eating the actual crappy carbage.

If one completely avoids the faux carbage and artificial sweeteners for about 2-3 months, most will see such a change in the sensitivity of taste buds that all the real food tastes so much better and if one does eat something artificially sweetened, it will taste too sweet to the point of being gross.

I am typically in the group that says, "better to ask for forgiveness than permission" and instead of asking who said it was ok asking if it is specifically prohibited. However, in this regard, seeing how many people seem to be drawn into failure in this area, I am more of a "better safe than sorry" in this specific area. That said, if one is going to use net carbs instead of total, I would recommend only subtracting naturally occurring fiber in real food - i.e. in vegetables - and not in faux foods - i.e. keto desserts, low carb tortillas/breads - and not subtracting sugar alcohols at all.

Yeah, I definitely visualise you as being more than 90° and less than 180°....

AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »

Yeah, I definitely visualise you as being more than 90° and less than 180°....

I think as a flatliner, life would be endlessly monotonous....

Actually, you know, I think I quite like those.....!