Daily Check-In for Keto Friends 2017 Version
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »4031isaiah wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »4031isaiah wrote: »1thankful_momma wrote: »4031isaiah wrote: »So, I think I figured it out. I don't think I feel better today because I ate popcorn and a chocolate bar. I think it's not what I did eat but what I didn't... meat!
I've always known that dairy and legumes don't really agree with my digestive system and I was never really much of a meat eater but since going Keto, I've been eating mostly meat and veggies with some eggs, nuts and fruit. Yesterday, I skipped the meat.
The one thing legumes and dairy have in common with meat is protein. I wonder if my body just doesn't do well processing it. It makes me want to see what would happen if I tried Keto meat-free... or if that would even be possible...
Can you do eggs? There is an egg fast that is Keto.
Yes I can do eggs. It's funny you should mention the egg fast because I plan to start it tomorrow but only for three days. I still need a long-term plan.
@4031isaiah - there are specific enzymes that aid in digestions of proteins. I wanna say it is Protease. Pretty sure Amylase is for carbs and Lipase is for fats.... If you have any sort of compromised stomach acid component (which can cause/trigger/aggravate/etc. whatever is going on with your "IBS." Many types of digestive disorders have common or related causes - but surface in different ways in different people.
If you are still eating a decent amount of veg, it's possible that your veg is using up the available stomach acid before the protein is digested ... (my understanding is that it goes in order of priority - alcohol, carbs, proteins, then fats...) in most people... Veg causes problems in some folks. @Sunny_Bunny_ found that her IBS/IBD symptoms resolved almost completely when she went full carnivore and dropped nearly all fiber sources, when on a traditional diet, fiber was the only thing that kept her functional.
Legumes have their own set of digestive drama, not the least of which is the self-protective ... anti-something (sorry can't recall the term) that basically protects them from being eaten in the wild. I would personally sample sprouted legumes (you can google for how to do this yourself or buy them some places)...because that helps process that ... protective measure out...
And yes, you can absolutely do keto without meat... Or even pescetarian (allowing fish, eggs, etc.)... There are some who even manage it on vegan, not just vegetarian! Also, dairy may just be the way that the protein issue surfaces, too. That's why a lot of programs have an elimination diet at first, then slowly adding back one food type at a time to identify the problem food... It may be dairy that throws the flag on the play but something else in your diet that sets the issue up, and if that item was removed, dairy might not be a problem for you, ongoing...
I'm glad to see you finding some commonalities, though...makes it easier to find the answers long term!
@KnitOrMiss thanks for your posts. They are always so helpful! I've been doing a bit of research and I don't know which way to go. Do I totally eliminate meat and find protein alternatives or do I totally eliminate veggies and hope its absence fixes the protein issue?
As for fibre or supplements, I can't do it at all. I would be folded over in pain for days if I did. I take magnesium citrate daily for regularity. NOTHING happens if I don't take it.
I've been struggling the last few days to get back on the wagon. I had a poor me moment on Friday and dove face first into a giant bag of smart food and have been giving in to non-Keto carbs here and there since.
I made some fat bombs tonight for the first time in a very long time. My hope is that having these on hand will satisfy any cravings until I get back into ketosis. I can't let discouragement send me spiralling back into old habits and undo any progress I've made.
I need to re-focus and could use the support of my friends here.
I have to say, you are sounding a lot like me before I went zero carb.
I used to need high doses of magnesium to go and I always blamed protein for my troubles.
I decided to try a monthly challenge eating carnivore just for the heck of it and realized that all of my troubles were actually the vegetables.
I had to cut waaaay back on my magnesium because it was making me go too much. I actually only take a small dose a few days a week now. But it has nothing to do with bathroom issues. It's just because I believe in its benefits.
I'm back to normal, no issue, no pain, no bloating almost daily regularity. Many zero carb people don't go more than once a week though. As long as your gut feels good and going causes no discomfort, not going often is perfectly healthy too.
Honestly, I'd try ZC before resorting to plant based proteins which are not as bioavailable. I personally don't believe it's as healthy as animal based protein.
Thanks @Sunny_Bunny_ . Would you mind if I PM'd you to ask a few more questions?0 -
4031isaiah wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »4031isaiah wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »4031isaiah wrote: »1thankful_momma wrote: »4031isaiah wrote: »So, I think I figured it out. I don't think I feel better today because I ate popcorn and a chocolate bar. I think it's not what I did eat but what I didn't... meat!
I've always known that dairy and legumes don't really agree with my digestive system and I was never really much of a meat eater but since going Keto, I've been eating mostly meat and veggies with some eggs, nuts and fruit. Yesterday, I skipped the meat.
The one thing legumes and dairy have in common with meat is protein. I wonder if my body just doesn't do well processing it. It makes me want to see what would happen if I tried Keto meat-free... or if that would even be possible...
Can you do eggs? There is an egg fast that is Keto.
Yes I can do eggs. It's funny you should mention the egg fast because I plan to start it tomorrow but only for three days. I still need a long-term plan.
@4031isaiah - there are specific enzymes that aid in digestions of proteins. I wanna say it is Protease. Pretty sure Amylase is for carbs and Lipase is for fats.... If you have any sort of compromised stomach acid component (which can cause/trigger/aggravate/etc. whatever is going on with your "IBS." Many types of digestive disorders have common or related causes - but surface in different ways in different people.
If you are still eating a decent amount of veg, it's possible that your veg is using up the available stomach acid before the protein is digested ... (my understanding is that it goes in order of priority - alcohol, carbs, proteins, then fats...) in most people... Veg causes problems in some folks. @Sunny_Bunny_ found that her IBS/IBD symptoms resolved almost completely when she went full carnivore and dropped nearly all fiber sources, when on a traditional diet, fiber was the only thing that kept her functional.
Legumes have their own set of digestive drama, not the least of which is the self-protective ... anti-something (sorry can't recall the term) that basically protects them from being eaten in the wild. I would personally sample sprouted legumes (you can google for how to do this yourself or buy them some places)...because that helps process that ... protective measure out...
And yes, you can absolutely do keto without meat... Or even pescetarian (allowing fish, eggs, etc.)... There are some who even manage it on vegan, not just vegetarian! Also, dairy may just be the way that the protein issue surfaces, too. That's why a lot of programs have an elimination diet at first, then slowly adding back one food type at a time to identify the problem food... It may be dairy that throws the flag on the play but something else in your diet that sets the issue up, and if that item was removed, dairy might not be a problem for you, ongoing...
I'm glad to see you finding some commonalities, though...makes it easier to find the answers long term!
@KnitOrMiss thanks for your posts. They are always so helpful! I've been doing a bit of research and I don't know which way to go. Do I totally eliminate meat and find protein alternatives or do I totally eliminate veggies and hope its absence fixes the protein issue?
As for fibre or supplements, I can't do it at all. I would be folded over in pain for days if I did. I take magnesium citrate daily for regularity. NOTHING happens if I don't take it.
I've been struggling the last few days to get back on the wagon. I had a poor me moment on Friday and dove face first into a giant bag of smart food and have been giving in to non-Keto carbs here and there since.
I made some fat bombs tonight for the first time in a very long time. My hope is that having these on hand will satisfy any cravings until I get back into ketosis. I can't let discouragement send me spiralling back into old habits and undo any progress I've made.
I need to re-focus and could use the support of my friends here.
I have to say, you are sounding a lot like me before I went zero carb.
I used to need high doses of magnesium to go and I always blamed protein for my troubles.
I decided to try a monthly challenge eating carnivore just for the heck of it and realized that all of my troubles were actually the vegetables.
I had to cut waaaay back on my magnesium because it was making me go too much. I actually only take a small dose a few days a week now. But it has nothing to do with bathroom issues. It's just because I believe in its benefits.
I'm back to normal, no issue, no pain, no bloating almost daily regularity. Many zero carb people don't go more than once a week though. As long as your gut feels good and going causes no discomfort, not going often is perfectly healthy too.
Honestly, I'd try ZC before resorting to plant based proteins which are not as bioavailable. I personally don't believe it's as healthy as animal based protein.
Thanks @Sunny_Bunny_ . Would you mind if I PM'd you to ask a few more questions?
No problem at all
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »4031isaiah wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »4031isaiah wrote: »KnitOrMiss wrote: »4031isaiah wrote: »1thankful_momma wrote: »4031isaiah wrote: »So, I think I figured it out. I don't think I feel better today because I ate popcorn and a chocolate bar. I think it's not what I did eat but what I didn't... meat!
I've always known that dairy and legumes don't really agree with my digestive system and I was never really much of a meat eater but since going Keto, I've been eating mostly meat and veggies with some eggs, nuts and fruit. Yesterday, I skipped the meat.
The one thing legumes and dairy have in common with meat is protein. I wonder if my body just doesn't do well processing it. It makes me want to see what would happen if I tried Keto meat-free... or if that would even be possible...
Can you do eggs? There is an egg fast that is Keto.
Yes I can do eggs. It's funny you should mention the egg fast because I plan to start it tomorrow but only for three days. I still need a long-term plan.
@4031isaiah - there are specific enzymes that aid in digestions of proteins. I wanna say it is Protease. Pretty sure Amylase is for carbs and Lipase is for fats.... If you have any sort of compromised stomach acid component (which can cause/trigger/aggravate/etc. whatever is going on with your "IBS." Many types of digestive disorders have common or related causes - but surface in different ways in different people.
If you are still eating a decent amount of veg, it's possible that your veg is using up the available stomach acid before the protein is digested ... (my understanding is that it goes in order of priority - alcohol, carbs, proteins, then fats...) in most people... Veg causes problems in some folks. @Sunny_Bunny_ found that her IBS/IBD symptoms resolved almost completely when she went full carnivore and dropped nearly all fiber sources, when on a traditional diet, fiber was the only thing that kept her functional.
Legumes have their own set of digestive drama, not the least of which is the self-protective ... anti-something (sorry can't recall the term) that basically protects them from being eaten in the wild. I would personally sample sprouted legumes (you can google for how to do this yourself or buy them some places)...because that helps process that ... protective measure out...
And yes, you can absolutely do keto without meat... Or even pescetarian (allowing fish, eggs, etc.)... There are some who even manage it on vegan, not just vegetarian! Also, dairy may just be the way that the protein issue surfaces, too. That's why a lot of programs have an elimination diet at first, then slowly adding back one food type at a time to identify the problem food... It may be dairy that throws the flag on the play but something else in your diet that sets the issue up, and if that item was removed, dairy might not be a problem for you, ongoing...
I'm glad to see you finding some commonalities, though...makes it easier to find the answers long term!
@KnitOrMiss thanks for your posts. They are always so helpful! I've been doing a bit of research and I don't know which way to go. Do I totally eliminate meat and find protein alternatives or do I totally eliminate veggies and hope its absence fixes the protein issue?
As for fibre or supplements, I can't do it at all. I would be folded over in pain for days if I did. I take magnesium citrate daily for regularity. NOTHING happens if I don't take it.
I've been struggling the last few days to get back on the wagon. I had a poor me moment on Friday and dove face first into a giant bag of smart food and have been giving in to non-Keto carbs here and there since.
I made some fat bombs tonight for the first time in a very long time. My hope is that having these on hand will satisfy any cravings until I get back into ketosis. I can't let discouragement send me spiralling back into old habits and undo any progress I've made.
I need to re-focus and could use the support of my friends here.
I have to say, you are sounding a lot like me before I went zero carb.
I used to need high doses of magnesium to go and I always blamed protein for my troubles.
I decided to try a monthly challenge eating carnivore just for the heck of it and realized that all of my troubles were actually the vegetables.
I had to cut waaaay back on my magnesium because it was making me go too much. I actually only take a small dose a few days a week now. But it has nothing to do with bathroom issues. It's just because I believe in its benefits.
I'm back to normal, no issue, no pain, no bloating almost daily regularity. Many zero carb people don't go more than once a week though. As long as your gut feels good and going causes no discomfort, not going often is perfectly healthy too.
Honestly, I'd try ZC before resorting to plant based proteins which are not as bioavailable. I personally don't believe it's as healthy as animal based protein.
Thanks @Sunny_Bunny_ . Would you mind if I PM'd you to ask a few more questions?
No problem at all
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@PatriciaJ279PatriciaJ279 wrote: »Hi - I'm new to keto. Does anyone have suggestions on how they track? I am trying to figure out if I should be tracking calories, macros by mgs or percentages? Example: today I'm at 14% carbs (28gms) 44% fat and 42% protein and am not hungry and don't want to eat any more. Am I doing this wrong? *posted this in another forum but this one seems to have more activity and persons with an understanding of how things work
Look up 'Keto calculator' with a search engine and plug your data in. I used those numbers to set up my goals in MFP. This is the only place I use the percentages.
I use the carb grams as a max(minus fiber since I do net carbs)
I use the protein grams as a minimum and will eat more protein if I am really active over my normal activity that I used in the calculator.
I eat the fat till I feel not hungry and at or lower than the grams determined in calc. Since I have fat to lose on my body, I want to use that instead of dietary fat.
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Aftet a four day, fear-based hiatus from weighing in, I gathered up the nerve to ride the scale today fully expecting to see even worse results than my one day, 5 pound gain. Instead, I'm just a tad above my lowest weight on this particular goal drive.
Wait, what?
Huh?
So relieved, so grateful, so confused....
But newly motivated!!!!
I'd say overall for the past four days I was eating at a high level of low carb - not keto at all - and easily 1000 cals over my usual on each of those days. I'm kind of shocked.
The body mystifies me. Hopefully I won't have a delayed water retention response tomorrow, but even if I do...I'll get through it off today's energy.
Back to it. Gung ho Keto!
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I hear ya! I had a few carb crazy days last week and for some inexplicable reason, my swollen fingers went down and so did the scale by 0.6lbs! I was afraid it might only be temporary because it didn't make sense, so I didn't record it. I've been back to full on keto since Monday and already showing traces of ketones. If the loss is still there tomorrow, I'm going to record it.3
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Been lax with tracking, and had a lot of cheat occasions last week's. Result, weight has been the same for about a month. Libra now tells me I'll loose the last 2.5kg by January 2020.
Not gaining anything tho, so that's good i guess.
Today's goal, track it all, and no snacking.1 -
I wish I had access to that libra app. It sounds cool.0
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Another good keto day yesterday. No loss, but it'll be coming. Today's big keto challenge is- not enough to do to keep busy. So I guess I should make a plan. Also, got in an extra dance night with some new friends at a beautiful outdoor, sunset concert by a great local grateful dead tribute band. Does it get any better than that? Rarely!0
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4031isaiah wrote: »I wish I had access to that libra app. It sounds cool.
Happy Scale on iPhone
Libra on Android
Trend Weight on Desktop
Hope that helps.0 -
It does thanks! I just downloaded and set up the iPhone version.2
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If you don't mind my asking, what is the Libra app?0
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Italiana_xx79 wrote: »If you don't mind my asking, what is the Libra app?
Libra is a weight tracker available on android phones.0 -
It's an app that gives you good trend weight and smoothes out noise when weighing often.
Can also estimate when you'll reach your goal.0 -
I will have to check it out. Thank you!
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New low for me, this morning. Now am 10.2 pounds away from the top of a 3 pound goal range! Feeling so encouraged about this.
Except for about 2 social things per week and some short road trips to see mom and my son, my calendar is now pretty quiet for the summer.
That means project time! I am hoping to throw myself into this, as I I did last summer. A good way to get stuff done, feel great about it, then be able to cruise in the busier times. Not to mention less boredom eating while I'm killing the weight loss goals!
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Weight has started to drop again, but been drinking wine every day and had some pie and cake at a lunch today, and then sushi after. Feeling ok tho, hoping it won't make too much of a dent.
Still, the goal this summer is to not gain, and stay under 80kg I guess.3 -
On my way home from a long, food-filled Canada Day weekend. It wasn't totally carb free but I did the best I could. Hopefully I didn't do too much damage. I'm really ready to start seeing more progress.3
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Reality check here. It's so clearly time to nix this lethargic self into gear. Have let things go a wee bit too long and in all adult areas there is a slight looming crisis if I don't focus on my life and my work instead of just some dumb boy(as my son calls it.)
I got some really nice words of encouragement from friends recently. About more than just how I looked or how much weight I've lost. It felt pretty good to be there and hear that out loud from people I care about. I dont have much family, but it felt like that to me. I think I have been longing for connections like this.
So, this makes me feel better and want to go on and refocus.
I think summer will be going much better now and I'm still in a comfortable keto weightloss pattern that isn't as severe as it was two years ago; but seems to be working even while accomodating some social indulgences that I just cant seem to forego all the time. I like this pattern alot; a little more jerky than usual but the weight trend is consistently downward. ( i just started using the Libra weight recording app with a trend line.)
Never thought i would say this, with my previous serious attitude about always weighing in to the ounce or be in denial...but now that I'm closer to goal weight I'm okay with knowing the trend is occurring and i just need to be consistant in realistic calorie, carb, and macro accounting.
It"s actually working ...as we speak. Maybe....this is to be how maintenance will work for me. I think it seems possible even after I get to goal weight.
Wouldn't that be a hoot? To discover my maintenance plan almost as soon as I totally throw in the towel on that subject...after a year of relentless wrassling with it! LMAO!4 -
Funny.1
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Got my wish from yesterday, a two pound mini whoosh. I'm now at lowest weight since the middle of last October. Feeling very happy, motivated, revved up, etc.
About 8 lbs to go til I reach the top of my new goal range!
Tonite, a challenge in the guise of a mini social gathering. Just need to be prepared to make keto choices. Also need to be prepared for the inevitable, yet temporary, upswing on scale numbers, for which I know I now am overdue . Thank you Libra App for the trend numbers... really helps my mindset.
I have to check my rewards chart, but I'm guessing I'll qualify for my next retail reward! That is always fun!!!!!
Have been good with projects for a couple days, and would like to get back to my daily watercolors and drawings which I stopped doing right after the break up. Long, hard road back when you take risks that backfire. But no matter. It's mostly history now, except when face to face. I will get there.
Today, I will fuel myself with the "living well is the best revenge" scenario. Luv that. Fits right in with my Scorpion nature.
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Just checking in. I promised myself back in April that no matter what happened, I'd give myself a minimum of 3 months worth of honest effort before I decided once and for all that Keto wasn't for me. I gave it to July 1 and after 14 weeks, I only lost 13lbs. That's not even a pound/week. But I've decided that even though the results aren't what I expected or what other people experienced, I believe it at least started answering some questions for me.
Having gone from a carb heavy diet to meat, veggies and fruit, I started having even more digestive trouble than I'd had before. Since I already can't do dairy or legumes, I naturally assumed the problem was with meat as they are all protein and I suspected that was the issue. You'd think this would lead me to cut out meat but...
I've decided that instead of quitting on Keto, I'm going to take it a step further and give myself one month to experiment with meat only. This is counterintuitive considering I believed for so long that protein is the problem but after hearing other people's stories and doing some of my own research, I feel like I've got nothing to lose.
I will listen to my body and reevaluate again August 1.
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Good luck! Hope it helps.0
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Christy - Hope it works out. It's so challenging to find something that works and then to keep it working is a daily effort.
My party last night was fun, but not keto. Darn. A little more than minimal damage, but not full on pig out. So I hope to correct that today with increased activity and firm food boundaries. I'm realizing it may be safer to eat something keto before I go out and accept a higher calorie count for the day rather than eat nothing and cave in to crazy hunger thinking.
Still feeling very psyched overall. Gave myself a weigh in day off - actually, I overslept and forgot to jump on the scale. But it works for me.
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Keto Restart : Day 1~ Thursday July 6th 4
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Good luck @corineortega!2
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Been to the cabin again for a couple of days. Been some wine, and more veggies and nuts than normal. Not looking forward to stepping on the scale tomorrow.
And of course there's a new wedding this weekend.
Starting work again in little over a week. Any tips to eating keto at work? We have a lunch buffet with 1 hot meat, soup and salad. Not always a good protein option to have with the salad.
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Looking for keto friends to follow to help keep me going on this way of life4
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I started Keto this week and so far I'm loving it. Down 4lbs. GOOD LUCK! you can do it!!5
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Day 2 off plan. I blame the peanuts. When will I learn? Tried again to have food in the house for visitors..bad idea.
This reminds me so vividly that the eating disorders do not go away. They are there,
aways ready to pounce after allowing me to believe in my small progresses, and to think I can handle it normally.
Still, if I ever want to be in normal company, I have to find ways to manage this. I can't live in a bubble and my keto foods don't really translate to appetizing social offerings. I'm mega basic in my keto food plan. Maybe I'll shelve that issue til after my current weight loss challenge.
Hoping today goes better food wise. I've been doing well and want to keep going.3
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