Soy Sauce
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Sugar free:
"The cramping started about an hour later, and soon enough I was as bloated as a balloon in Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. When the rumbling started I sprinted down the hallway and made it to the bathroom just in time for the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse to stampede from my backside, laying waste to my home's septic system AND my will to live. After three hours of a pelvis-shaking Gummy Bear assault, I was spongy and weak, surprised that I had any bones left. YUP, whatever they put into these sugar free products.... it can have some nasty side effects. I reccommend trying new products in close proximity to the bathroom, one that has a stall.... or a proper door....
Whew! Not just the horses, but the horsemen, too. Ouch.1 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »MSG likes to masquerade as "natural flavors" on most labels...though I am sure you probably knew that... One of my favorite resources is : http://www.msgtruth.org/
https://khemaney.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/msgs-effects-on-children/
Also this: Since it has been illegal since 1995
"If you write or call to ask whether or not there is MSG in a product...
If you want to find out if there is processed free glutamic acid (MSG) in a product, you must ask the manufacturer for information about "free glutamic acid." Don't ask about "MSG." Manufacturers find it convenient, when speaking to consumers, to tell them that there is no "MSG" in their product, meaning that there is no ingredient called "monosodium glutamate." Even if a manufacturer tells you there is no MSG in a product, there may be autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed pea protein, carrageenan, sodium caseinate, enzymes, and a whole slew of other ingredients that contain or create processed free glutamic acid (MSG) during manufacture.
If you are told that all of the MSG in a product is "naturally occurring," thank the manufacturer for that meaningless information, but explain that all processed free glutamic acid (MSG) is referred to as "natural" by the FDA -- so "natural" tells you nothing. In fact, as the word "natural" is defined by the FDA, the food ingredient "monosodium glutamate" is "natural."
It is the amount of processed free glutamic acid in the product that will determine whether or not you might suffer an MSG reaction. (Everyone has a different tolerance for MSG.) If the manufacturer claims not to know whether or not there is processed free glutamic acid (MSG) in his or her product, ask that the product be analyzed for free amino acids, including free glutamic acid. There are tests for measuring free glutamic acid. The AOAC Official Methods of Analysis (1984) gives one method. There are others. The cost of testing should be no more than $150.
We have been advised by the FDA that if any such misbranded products are brought to their attention, they will act to correct the situation. To report misbranded products to the FDA, please call the FDA at 888-723-3366 between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m., eastern time - and keep a record of your call."truthinlabeling.org/nomsg.html
The ph number is for the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition.
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As defined by USA Inc. we can interpret the meaning of the word "natural" as "derived from ingredients available on Planet Earth. No products obtained from outer space are used in our manufacturing process. You're welcome."4
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mandycat223 wrote: »As defined by USA Inc. we can interpret the meaning of the word "natural" as "derived from ingredients available on Planet Earth. No products obtained from outer space are used in our manufacturing process. You're welcome."
Kryptonite is a trace element, you know.
(WOW! chips were k-fortified, as Olestra was naturally high in it. Not sure where to get it, now that Olestra is only used in deck stain...)3 -
Update:
Tried coconut aminos.
Tried Bragg's Liquid Aminos.
I use it for my keto stir fry with miracle rice/noodles.
Bragg's Liquid Aminos taste just like soy sauce! Now we wait to see if the bloating will start...
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deck stain! Bwahahahaha!
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canadjineh wrote: »deck stain! Bwahahahaha!
True. And a personal lubricant (If you have a, er, small power tool.....).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olestra#Applications2 -
I love euphemisms....1
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Tubas are nice, too....0
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When a recipe calls for soy sauce, I use Tamari or Coconut Aminos or a 50/50 combination of both depending on how strong (or not) I want the soy sauce flavor to be. lol Here's a link to my favorite kind of Tamari:
https://www.amazon.com/OHSAWA-TAMARI-32-GLUTEN-FREE-MACROBIOTIC/dp/B0019LFC2K
This is the one I use in many of my marinades. I am soy free most days and I have to be GF. This tamari is VERY tasty, I just wish it was cheaper.
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LolaDeeDaisy23 wrote: »Update:
Tried coconut aminos.
Tried Bragg's Liquid Aminos.
I use it for my keto stir fry with miracle rice/noodles.
Bragg's Liquid Aminos taste just like soy sauce! Now we wait to see if the bloating will start...
@LolaDeeDaisy23 - How'd the bloating experiment go? Did you bloat or were you a bloat-free zone?1 -
@KnitOrMiss No bloat!!
i have to be careful with sodium levels though.
Too much sodium though and I retain water the next day. I went out to eat a chopped chicken salad and I added extra salsa, extra salt and pepper and I gained 3 pounds the next morning.3 -
There's always Gluten Free Tamari, you can even get "lite" tamari. Its a safe alternative to soy.1
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Tamari is still soy. It is just wheat-free soy. The liquid aminos and coconut aminos are not soy.1
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I have heard lots of negatives about soy sauce. I'm personally on the fence about it but I try to sub balsamic vinegar instead. Similar profile (sour and salty).0
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JessicaLCHF wrote: »I have heard lots of negatives about soy sauce. I'm personally on the fence about it but I try to sub balsamic vinegar instead. Similar profile (sour and salty).
Danger Will Robinson! Some balsamic vinegar = pretty sweet.1 -
Lol. That's why you food log. Read labels.1
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JessicaLCHF wrote: »Lol. That's why you food log. Read labels.
+1 Can't argue there.0 -
JessicaLCHF wrote: »I have heard lots of negatives about soy sauce. I'm personally on the fence about it but I try to sub balsamic vinegar instead. Similar profile (sour and salty).
Danger Will Robinson! Some balsamic vinegar = pretty sweet.
Ummm, yep. Proper Balsamic Vinegar from Modena is like a tangy syrup. I have some 12 y.o. aged that you could pour on ice cream as a topping (and yes I have
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