How is everyone doing with the coronavirus around
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@rjan91, hang in there! Don't get too hard on yourself with low carb right now. It has been a challenge to find food in the grocery store. Our stress levels have all been elevated too during this pandemic which is causing us to be more hungry and give up on determination faster. Do what you can with what you have, we find ourselves all in this together.
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I'm hanging in there. My work load probably doubled (taking classes online, office hours online, managing my department etc.), and not exercising enough. But that's all improving.3
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Southern CA
Work - OK. We all had salary cuts, but I'm still employed/insured.
Health - Staying as active as possible. Higher carbs than normal due to scarcity and buying limits on meat/dairy/veg. But everything we're eating is 100% from scratch and we haven't gone down the oreo/dorito pit I've heard so many are.
Emotional - Pretty good. I've had stressed moments when it all started because I wasn't sure what it would mean for my company (all of our showrooms had to close) and my job. But now that I've had the answer - even though it's not great - I can move forward. I've also had a couple breakdowns as some CA hospitals aren't allowing husbands with laboring wives and the women have to labor alone and with face masks on. One hospital near me (but not my delivering hospital) is allowing husbands to be there for the birth but then they have to leave an hour or two later. I've made my peace with the fact that our kids and parents will have to wait to meet this baby...but I really don't want to do this alone. At least it's our third, so I know what to expect.
Family - Excellent. The kids were already homeschooled and we do better the more we're together, so this has been a lovely time family wise.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »I read yesterday where people are not to wear mask if we are well so mass mask confusion?
https://sciencealert.com/this-is-why-advice-on-whether-you-should-wear-a-mask-is-just-so-confusing
What has boggled my mind that so many can have COVID-19 and never know it but 80% that have to go on a ventilator never come off of it alive. Below they are talking about the "storm" and a possible genetic defect.
https://knowablemagazine.org/article/health-disease/2020/what-cytokine-storm
This is not the first time a cytokine storm has been linked to a pandemic. Scientists suspect that cytokine storms caused many of the fatalities in the 1918 flu pandemic and the 2003 outbreak of SARS, a virus related to the one that causes Covid-19.
“ Covid is — maybe — a relatively unique cytokine storm. It seems to happen quickly with this virus. ”
RANDY CRON
More recently, Cron and colleagues analyzed 16 fatal cases, from between 2009 and 2014, of the pandemic H1N1 “swine” flu — a novel influenza virus that emerged in 2009 and has since become a fixture during flu season. Up to four-fifths of those patients met standard criteria for a cytokine storm. In addition, several had genetic variants that might have made their immune systems more likely to overreact.
Two patients, for example, had mutations in the PRF1 gene, which makes a protein called perforin.
The magazine link wasn't working but I found this article informative.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/07/828091467/why-some-covid-19-patients-crash-the-bodys-immune-system-might-be-to-blame
I had already heard that when you have a fever do not take the anti inflammatory OTC meds. So if I do get a fever and other symptoms I will stick to lots of fluids for the fever.0 -
On day 31 on the truck, long haul trucking through Canada and the USA, with my partner. My daughter and her boyfriend live at home, and we are all trying to stay healthy, so we will not be going home until we need to. Normally we would be home once per month, to relax, shop for supplies and do laundry and errands. But during this pandemic, we are keeping our distance from everyone.
It has been very difficult to get supplies, even before restrictions were imposed where I live. I was afraid to have to go to work without having secured supplies of hand sanitizer, disinfectant wipes, etc. But we did go to work without them, and took our chances. Not much we could do, since everywhere we looked prior to leaving home, and everywhere we look on the road, are all sold out.
We don’t have the luxury of being able to get groceries regularly, due to driving a 73 foot vehicle, and having to be able to park. Truck stops generally don’t sell too much fresh food, so we have given up on low carb for now, just to survive. Restaurants are closed, and we can’t always get takeout as a truck driver. I was able to get some fresh meat and vegetables on the weekend, and I cooked in the truck for our Easter dinner. We eat meals prepared in the truck for the most part.
I think in our profession, we are accustomed to spending long periods of time away from family and friends, so we might have an advantage there. We now limit our time out of the truck to loading, unloading, fuelling and showering, with sporadic trips for food or to do laundry. There is no mingling with other drivers or coworkers, or conversations with people you meet along the way. We do our work, and we go back into the truck.
So far, we are OK. I did go through a little period where I was feeling upset that we couldn’t get supplies to keep us safe, while we are assuming risk on the job. I envied the regular citizens, who would be able to come back the next day to try again to purchase supplies. Truck drivers are transporting everything that consumers and businesses need, but have even less access to necessities like food, water, hygiene, safety and comfort. Well, that whining didn’t last long. I am happy to be working and contributing. We will all get through this.
We may spend another month or two at work trucking before we take some time off. When we do, we will take at least two weeks off, maybe three. I’ll be really anxious for some fresh food by then!6 -
I miss farmers markets and fresh produce...the shopping less frequently means we only have fresh stuff about half the time...frozen is ok, but not the same...I'm trying to find a local place that will deliver produce and I might have found one, but I need to do some more research to figure out how to order and when.
Meats are becoming increasingly scarce but at least so far I can find something, even if it isn't always what I really want. I can live with that.
I'm looking forward to getting garden plants in since we are now past the risk of frost, and super looking forward to fresh from my garden veggies this summer!!!2 -
Kitnthecat wrote: »On day 31 on the truck, long haul trucking through Canada and the USA, with my partner. My daughter and her boyfriend live at home, and we are all trying to stay healthy, so we will not be going home until we need to. Normally we would be home once per month, to relax, shop for supplies and do laundry and errands. But during this pandemic, we are keeping our distance from everyone.
It has been very difficult to get supplies, even before restrictions were imposed where I live. I was afraid to have to go to work without having secured supplies of hand sanitizer, disinfectant wipes, etc. But we did go to work without them, and took our chances. Not much we could do, since everywhere we looked prior to leaving home, and everywhere we look on the road, are all sold out.
We don’t have the luxury of being able to get groceries regularly, due to driving a 73 foot vehicle, and having to be able to park. Truck stops generally don’t sell too much fresh food, so we have given up on low carb for now, just to survive. Restaurants are closed, and we can’t always get takeout as a truck driver. I was able to get some fresh meat and vegetables on the weekend, and I cooked in the truck for our Easter dinner. We eat meals prepared in the truck for the most part.
I think in our profession, we are accustomed to spending long periods of time away from family and friends, so we might have an advantage there. We now limit our time out of the truck to loading, unloading, fuelling and showering, with sporadic trips for food or to do laundry. There is no mingling with other drivers or coworkers, or conversations with people you meet along the way. We do our work, and we go back into the truck.
So far, we are OK. I did go through a little period where I was feeling upset that we couldn’t get supplies to keep us safe, while we are assuming risk on the job. I envied the regular citizens, who would be able to come back the next day to try again to purchase supplies. Truck drivers are transporting everything that consumers and businesses need, but have even less access to necessities like food, water, hygiene, safety and comfort. Well, that whining didn’t last long. I am happy to be working and contributing. We will all get through this.
We may spend another month or two at work trucking before we take some time off. When we do, we will take at least two weeks off, maybe three. I’ll be really anxious for some fresh food by then!
Thank you for your dedicated work!!!
We couldn't make it without trucker drivers ffs. I hope things improve for you soon. 2 -
Thanks a lot @baconslave ! It’s true, everything comes by truck....someone waved to me as I drove the other day, and it gave me a tear in my eye. Truck drivers are a bit more visible today... and grocery store workers etc.5
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Kitnthecat wrote: »Thanks a lot @baconslave ! It’s true, everything comes by truck....someone waved to me as I drove the other day, and it gave me a tear in my eye. Truck drivers are a bit more visible today... and grocery store workers etc.
I do hope people remember all this after this madness is finally over. I've always remembered to be kind to cashiers and such, as I was once a cashier myself. They are human beings and deserve basic respect and appreciation. I also have family members who drive trucks. Thankless jobs sometimes. I will remember. I'll make sure my kids at least leave my home knowing this. You all made sure we were fed and had essential supplies while working yourselves so hard and doing without and putting yourselves in the virus's path. 2 -
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I wish I could say that we deliver food and medical supplies, but I can’t. We drive flat deck, not dry van or reefer. Our loads are building materials like lumber, steel and shingles, agricultural equipment and supplies, and construction job site loads like communication tower parts, elevators and wind turbine parts. Some construction is still taking place. I really liked bringing steel building components to large farms in Washington state recently. They will be made into large storage bins for vegetables. The agricultural equipment also aids production of food. So I guess we help get food to the people at the beginning of the process, not the end delivery to the grocery store. And we are happy to help! ❤️2 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »I'm hanging in there. My work load probably doubled (taking classes online, office hours online, managing my department etc.), and not exercising enough. But that's all improving.
I took the better part of the weekend OFF! I am ready to tackle teaching for another month online, and doing what it takes! Workout this afternoon!5 -
In our county seat (rural farming community) we are up to 98 positive cases (80 from one nursing home) so one can estimate a few thousand cases based on some areas doing more antibody testing. Area hospital staffs have both pay rate and hours cut for essential staff members and other medical staff have been layed off.2
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Nobody in the family has gotten the virus (at least as far as we know). My youngest daughter did get furloughed from her job in retail because of the shutdown as well as losing her senior prom and graduation ceremony (which totally sucks!).
My oldest daughter is a nurse in a local hospital and my wife works as the lead PBX operator at another hospital (both of which have me stressing out), but thankfully neither has come down with the virus.
@GaleHawkins - did you see this report? It figures that almost 1 in 5 have actually been exposed to the virus (at least in New York):
https://www.livescience.com/covid-antibody-test-results-new-york-test.html4 -
Nobody in the family has gotten the virus (at least as far as we know). My youngest daughter did get furloughed from her job in retail because of the shutdown as well as losing her senior prom and graduation ceremony (which totally sucks!).
My oldest daughter is a nurse in a local hospital and my wife works as the lead PBX operator at another hospital (both of which have me stressing out), but thankfully neither has come down with the virus.
@GaleHawkins - did you see this report? It figures that almost 1 in 5 have actually been exposed to the virus (at least in New York):
https://www.livescience.com/covid-antibody-test-results-new-york-test.html
Hope your family continue to do well. When I drop off the wife I hang in the parking lot for a couple minutes just in case she fails the temperature check.
Thanks for the link. The ratio vary but this antibody testing continues to indicate people can have COVID-19 and never know it.
Currently I am working to get my head around the stroke and blood clot side affects that is mind boggling. I have used Wobenzym N off and on for many years but using it regularly during these times just in case enzymes can reach the blood stream. It came out of Germany like 60 years ago.
Locally there is talk about starting to do elective medical care next month for cash flow. The deaths due to the shut down of most medical care seems to be causing more deaths than the virus itself.0 -
My hubby and i had the coronavirus 4 weeks ago. He had it really bad 40f everyday in temperature and nothing we did would get it down. For 7 days he was like this not eating or drinking, lost his taste and smell and 21 pound of in weight in one week he had a continued headache with it and the shaking , finally after a week the temperature went down to 36f, but he didn't fell well in himself, 2 days later he had a heart attack and went in to hospital, there they said he have had the coronavirus but it was out of his system they could see it on a x-ray that the coronavirus had left some scar tissue on his lungs, which also turned out that he had pneumonia, but he didn't have any breathing problems. A week later after the heart attack he came come. Hospital said is was the coronavirus that gave him his heart attack as it make his blood thicker and gave him the blood cloth. 4 weeks in now and he is doing great again. Myself i think i had the coronavirus. At the same my hubby had it, i lost my tastebud and smell, i had tempature for one day but only 38f. I slept alot for 48 hours, but after that i was alright again. I should say. My hubby did have a heart attack before and is diabetes with high blood pressure. Where as i dont have any majored health problems.10
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My hubby and i had the coronavirus 4 weeks ago. He had it really bad 40f everyday in temperature and nothing we did would get it down. For 7 days he was like this not eating or drinking, lost his taste and smell and 21 pound of in weight in one week he had a continued headache with it and the shaking , finally after a week the temperature went down to 36f, but he didn't fell well in himself, 2 days later he had a heart attack and went in to hospital, there they said he have had the coronavirus but it was out of his system they could see it on a x-ray that the coronavirus had left some scar tissue on his lungs, which also turned out that he had pneumonia, but he didn't have any breathing problems. A week later after the heart attack he came come. Hospital said is was the coronavirus that gave him his heart attack as it make his blood thicker and gave him the blood cloth. 4 weeks in now and he is doing great again. Myself i think i had the coronavirus. At the same my hubby had it, i lost my tastebud and smell, i had tempature for one day but only 38f. I slept alot for 48 hours, but after that i was alright again. I should say. My hubby did have a heart attack before and is diabetes with high blood pressure. Where as i dont have any majored health problems.
I'm so sorry to hear about your husband being so ill!
I'm glad he is on the mend though. It is very very contagious, and loss of taste and smell are symptoms and fever, so I would say you certainly also had it. I'm hoping that means that you are both immune now for awhile at least.
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Thanks baconslave, hopefully we immune now just waiting for the antibody test. In the mean time i need to get back on the wagon, put on 7 pounds in 3 weeks, finding it harder to stick to low carbs while on this lock down.2
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Our numbers are on the increase in the west end of KY. Rumor has our nursing home case to be cruise ship related. After having spent 2 hours scanning the news this morning I am about ready to declare that for the most part the world is emotionally unstable. Good,bad or indifferent the shelter in place is ending in the minds of the people regardless what governments say.1
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We are staying healthy here in AZ. I am having difficulties following my diet due to not having the foods were used to eating and having to substitute more and having an increase of anxiety sends me into an eating frenzy. I did successfully change our sleeping schedule so now I go to bed early instead of staying up late and binging in front of the tv. 👍 I miss my family though and basic things you take for granted like “sams club” hehehe... we have been very fortunate though. Stay well, be safe... take care all2
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Just got notice today that I am being furloughed for potentially 13 weeks. I do work in health care in a clinic and we have a few cases around the area but none have been admitted to the hospital. I am hoping and praying that this thing doesn't last past July and I'm called back. I live in southern WI and Madison and Milwaukee have been hit hard with it.4
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Just got notice today that I am being furloughed for potentially 13 weeks. I do work in health care in a clinic and we have a few cases around the area but none have been admitted to the hospital. I am hoping and praying that this thing doesn't last past July and I'm called back. I live in southern WI and Madison and Milwaukee have been hit hard with it.
I hope you get called back soon. One area hospital just cut everyone's hours by 30% that had not already been furloughed. KY is talking about opening up preventive healthcare services so people can get hip, eye, etc type surgeries.1 -
All the medical folks I know have been pulled out of their clinics and moved to hospitals for shifts...we are in VA, so maybe each state is handling that differently...that is kind of how we do things around here.2
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That was the plan in KY 6 weeks ago but there has just been a trinkle (picking up speed now) of COVID-19 patients and people with non COVID-19 related health issues are getting into serious trouble with their doctors setting at home was not making good sense.
With the kids in the UK now developing serious health failures it is clear that it is not clear what we are dealing with in the nature of this virus and that we are not close to having this thing behind us but we can not take care of the other sicknesses out there.0 -
I have had to talk people in to coming into the clinic to be treated for non COVID issues. My own son ran a screwdriver into his hand and should have had stitches and a tetanus vaccination but he wouldn't do it for fear of the virus.I had to scare him with fear of getting tetanus which could be worse than COVID.2
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Keeping track of my family in Italy.... One Zio and Zia (in same household) were in hospital with it, but are recovering at home. Their daughter also had it but she is feeling better and also recovering at home. Canadian family is all OK so far.
Keeping up with all the studies and pre-prints (pre-peer reviewed papers) can be daunting. Latest from the biology preprint server: https://biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1?fbclid=IwAR0BYV22we2HuKbwIanAC_nzqsekCo3OqU1iDxK4xLo-cdQiR_9-7A1Ww0A
Short simplified explanation: Mutations in the spike protein means the G allele is now more common than the D allele in Europe, Canada, and US. This mutation is more transmissible with a higher viral load. Less likely to get herd immunity, a useful vaccine, or usefulness of positive antibody tests.
Also, a pre-print from University of Zurich - Covid-19 causes systemic endotheliitis (that's why all the weird massive strokes in younger people 30-60, and heart attacks) en.usz.ch/media/press-releases/pages/covid-19-endotheliitis.aspx?DeviceChannel=Mobile&fbclid=IwAR23gMSf2zzy1sWrkLn8mTy0CBit0mO5w0C5Sb-tRQGwni__H7DW0a4y0ZU5 -
Thanks for sharing these two awesome research links that I had not read. It is hard to keep up with the rapid fire studies for sure. The strokes and heart attacks from COVID-19 has been confusing to me since they are not typically associated with corona viruses. Your links lead me to others and below is a scientist that talked more about these unusual COVID-19 deadly risks. She made sense and years ago worked on AIDS research (Magic Johnson) but pointed out even more rabbit holes that I need to check out now.
https://youtu.be/kgnBldI7KPY
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Is also a sign you got coronavirus, i take multivitamins with plenty of Zinc in it.
Yes my step mother has it now and that was the first thing she said. He cannot taste anything. She is week 2 with it so not quite getting better yet. But she did say she lost 7 pounds so at least she hasn't lost her sense of humor.4
