Who was the guy nailing boards onto the farm house? I don't think I've seen him before. Kind of bugs me that there are these people that are in the show and you have no clue who they are. Kind of like lost and all the survivors of the plane crash. They were just background noise.

Sad to see Shane gone - he was the cagey, psycho character that was perfect because he always kept you wondering what he'd do next.

Shane never raped anyone or tolerated that kind of behavior also.

No...but he sure attacked Lori. That was unacceptable. When a woman says no, get off, get the fuck off, or lose a testicle.

Yeah, but he didn't do it. He stopped and didn't rape her.

I am not OK with this sentiment. THIS does NOT make it fine, regardless of any emotional stringing along Lori may or may not be doing.

ugh. I never said it was okay, but there is a difference between gang raping women on a regular basis and what Shane did. No, what he did was totally and utterly wrong and he deserved a serious beatdown for it. Comparing him to Mr. I-hang-with-the-gang-rape-group is silly to me.

Could it be that Carl saw Rick kill Shane and really did pull the gun on Rick? Seems to me that Carl respected and spent a lot of time with Shane. Almost more time than with Rick. At least Shane was always looking out for Carl.

Yeah thats what I think, too. Shane was more a father to Carl than Rick had been for a long time, and most recently.

so i need to go read all the responses ...


how the hell was shane a zombie? the flashes of zombie-ness right afterwards - i guess they were coming from shane, not rick.

SO, i'm thinking it's airborne or waterborne or whatever. and these guys are carriers (the prisoner guy and shane) and that's why they turned into walkers immediately after death.

OR - they (prisoner, shane and rick) got infected somehow at that "camp" they went to when they first let the prisoner go. remember the guards they found who didn't have any bites? forshadowing baby.

OR - the walker who split in half and ended up in the well. and everyone is screwed.

I think he's Maggies sister's husband..Jimmy? not sure of his name. they don't really show any of the farm people now except for Hershel and Maggie.

Yeah his name is Jimmy, he was Beth's (Maggie's sister) boyfriend of three months.

I really don't think taking Randall into the woods was a ploy to get the truth. That was just icing on the cake. I think he'd already planned on killing him and getting Rick alone. I liked Shane's character for the most part. I even understood the Otis thing - I really just wish he and Andrea would have gone out of their own and had 2 different points of view to go by in the series.

PS... Hello Zombie Hoard! Please push the survivors off the ****ing farm! I am so sick of Pleasantville! lol.

And anyone else think it was weird that they just now boarded up the downstairs windows? Kind of foreshadowing on the on coming zombie battle don't ya think?

I agree with you about why Shane took Randall into the woods, that's what I thought as soon as Shane went into the barn with him. That his agenda was to somehow get Rick alone and freeing Randall would be the perfect ploy. Also agree about getting off the farm!! That's the only way there is going to be more action, by being back out on the road.

If you remember from the beginning of the episode, Hershel told everyone that they should all move inside, that he should have invited them in long before this, but that it's crucial now b/c it's going to start getting colder out. That's why they were boarding up the windows. To keep out the cold AND the zombies. Makes sense to me.

I really don't think taking Randall into the woods was a ploy to get the truth. That was just icing on the cake. I think he'd already planned on killing him and getting Rick alone. I liked Shane's character for the most part. I even understood the Otis thing - I really just wish he and Andrea would have gone out of their own and had 2 different points of view to go by in the series.

PS... Hello Zombie Hoard! Please push the survivors off the ****ing farm! I am so sick of Pleasantville! lol.

And anyone else think it was weird that they just now boarded up the downstairs windows? Kind of foreshadowing on the on coming zombie battle don't ya think?

I agree with you about why Shane took Randall into the woods, that's what I thought as soon as Shane went into the barn with him. That his agenda was to somehow get Rick alone and freeing Randall would be the perfect ploy. Also agree about getting off the farm!! That's the only way there is going to be more action, by being back out on the road.

If you remember from the beginning of the episode, Hershel told everyone that they should all move inside, that he should have invited them in long before this, but that it's crucial now b/c it's going to start getting colder out. That's why they were boarding up the windows. To keep out the cold AND the zombies. Makes sense to me.

I doubt the cold is an issue. There was a random walker roaming around that got dale and also the walkers eating the cow at the beginning of the episode. That whole conversation was about security.

To be honest ladies, I try to avoid talking about the comic too much for that reason, but so much has changed up, there is no guarantee that everything will be exactly the same.

Thanks! :happy:

I don't mind reading that Shane died earlier in the comics after Shane has died in the show, but I would have been disappointed to read that last week.

Gah, I woke up at 3:00 this morning and couldn't go back to sleep, thinking how are they going to get out of this?!?!? What's going to happen?!?! Love the suspense!