May/June BED Conversation Thread

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  • kailauli
    kailauli Posts: 19
    Sounds like we are in the same boat on this one. If I don't pack or plan meals, then oh boy. It's the curtains for me. I struggle with the emotional part too. If something good happens, I eat. If something bad happens, I eat. It's almost as if emotions are uncomfortable and food distracts from feeling.

    One of the members (I don't remember who) posted "if hunger is not the problem, eating is not the answer". I try to keep that in mind when the binge monster pops up.
  • richardsrm
    richardsrm Posts: 1,144 Member
    thanks for the advice. doing better today...stay busy.
  • MJ7910
    MJ7910 Posts: 1,280 Member
    I am new to this group but not new to binge eating. i just started a new plan called No S Diet and it's been going ok. Still had some troubles with binging this weekend but i'm thinking this new way of looking at it will help me. We have a group on here if you want to read about it - just search for No S Lifestyle
    anyway, so been doing my best to avoid binging and face what emotions are bothering me really. mostly it's just boredom and the idea of what something would taste like. i think i just need to get some new hobbies or find stuff to fill time.
  • Behavior_Modification
    Behavior_Modification Posts: 24,482 Member
    Yesterday was a rough day. Triggers everywhere.

    I hate when people ask if or assume I am dieting. People do not understand the notion of learning how to eat like a normal person. It feels really strange trying to explain it. That is what I feel like I'm doing though. I don't feel like I'm dieting. In fact, the moment I go to that mentality it is bad news. I believe in order to recover from BED we all have to learn to eat like normal people. Normal people who use their natural hunger to gauge how much and when they eat. Normal people who can enjoy a treat and leave it at one. Normal people who don't obsess about food all day long. Normal people who aren't thinking about what they can eat next before they're even finished with what's in front of them. Normal people who allow themselves to feel emotion instead of burying it with another feeling - which we get from bingeing.

    I've never been a big fan of conformity, but in this case I long to be normal.
  • MJ7910
    MJ7910 Posts: 1,280 Member
    People do not understand the notion of learning how to eat like a normal person. It feels really strange trying to explain it. That is what I feel like I'm doing though. I don't feel like I'm dieting. In fact, the moment I go to that mentality it is bad news. I believe in order to recover from BED we all have to learn to eat like normal people. Normal people who use their natural hunger to gauge how much and when they eat. Normal people who can enjoy a treat and leave it at one. Normal people who don't obsess about food all day long. Normal people who aren't thinking about what they can eat next before they're even finished with what's in front of them. Normal people who allow themselves to feel emotion instead of burying it with another feeling - which we get from bingeing.

    I've never been a big fan of conformity, but in this case I long to be normal.

    I so agree with these statements! I have some friends who can really do a good job controlling themselves. But I can't... it's like I am just not tuned into my natural hunger. My husband, for example, turns down yummy things all the time saying he doesn't want any or he's not hungry. This is because he knows he doesn't really need or want it right then and there. but not me. i swear i'll take anything offered to me at any time, hungry or full... well maybe not anythign but definitely yummy treats. that is why i had to start the No S Diet. It was the only way for me to allow myself some indulgence on the weekends (with moderation) and also be strict during the week and have some rules, knowing that I get to enjoy somethign at some point. just not always! but yeah, it's because I cannot "eat like a normal person" i just know i can't do that and even if i try to convince myself i can, it just doesn't happen that way. despite my wishful thinking! so i have to train myself if i ever hope to be there. and maybe i can if i set some ground rules. maybe it will just become habit to eat in moderation. that is my hope!
  • greekygirl
    greekygirl Posts: 448 Member
    I hate when people ask if or assume I am dieting. People do not understand the notion of learning how to eat like a normal person. It feels really strange trying to explain it. That is what I feel like I'm doing though. I don't feel like I'm dieting. In fact, the moment I go to that mentality it is bad news. I believe in order to recover from BED we all have to learn to eat like normal people. Normal people who use their natural hunger to gauge how much and when they eat. Normal people who can enjoy a treat and leave it at one. Normal people who don't obsess about food all day long. Normal people who aren't thinking about what they can eat next before they're even finished with what's in front of them. Normal people who allow themselves to feel emotion instead of burying it with another feeling - which we get from bingeing.

    I've never been a big fan of conformity, but in this case I long to be normal.

    I've known I'm not normal with food and now I *really* know that I'm not normal!

    I think part of my problem is the diet mentality. I have GOT to get out of that! My restrict/binge/restrict/binge pattern is NOT normal!
  • richardsrm
    richardsrm Posts: 1,144 Member
    So true, it is a whole new mind set. portion control is so important......I just keep that on my mind most of the day. Sure there are two poptarts in the package but you only need one. Take care you guys the weekend is coming and that is my worst time. I am going to really try hard to stick with the program. Richie
  • kailauli
    kailauli Posts: 19
    Do you ever feel like if you could just make it to your goal weight you would stop binging? I have this idea that once I reach goal weight my life will be perfect, and the urge to binge will evaporate. Probably not gonna happen. I am in my last 10 lbs of weight loss, but every time I lose a few lbs, I sabotage myself and gain it back. I've been stuck in my last 10 lbs for about 6 months now. I just wish everyday that I could have developed ANY other disorder. Sometimes I wish I could have been an alcoholic, or even anorexic. I wonder why I didn't pick up smoking. Why, why, why.

    All these questions, and no answers...
  • MJ7910
    MJ7910 Posts: 1,280 Member
    i did make it to goal weight or 1 lb within and the binging actually got worse!
  • richardsrm
    richardsrm Posts: 1,144 Member
    Watched Dr.Phil today....a women who weighed lots was on. He said "it isn't about changing your diet, it's about changing your life style.
    He also talked about emotional baggage ,my actions don't reflect what I tell myself I want. I say I want to be healthier and then turn around and binge........addiction sucks. Richie
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    Yesterday was a rough day. Triggers everywhere.

    I hate when people ask if or assume I am dieting. People do not understand the notion of learning how to eat like a normal person. It feels really strange trying to explain it. That is what I feel like I'm doing though. I don't feel like I'm dieting. In fact, the moment I go to that mentality it is bad news. I believe in order to recover from BED we all have to learn to eat like normal people. Normal people who use their natural hunger to gauge how much and when they eat. Normal people who can enjoy a treat and leave it at one. Normal people who don't obsess about food all day long. Normal people who aren't thinking about what they can eat next before they're even finished with what's in front of them. Normal people who allow themselves to feel emotion instead of burying it with another feeling - which we get from bingeing.

    I've never been a big fan of conformity, but in this case I long to be normal.
    So true!
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    "Gluttony is an emotional escape, a sign something is eating us." ~ John C. Maxwell
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    Stop Emotional Eating Before It Starts

    -- By Dean Anderson, Behavioral Psychology Expert


    What is the single, most common problem that most dieters face when trying to lose weight? Will power? Nah. Temptation? Sometimes. Emotional eating? Bingo! That’s why it takes so much more than good intentions and information about nutrition and exercise to be successful. The ability to manage difficult situations and feelings effectively—without turning to food and eating—is a necessary foundation for a successful weight loss plan and healthy lifestyle.

    Fortunately, there are many proactive steps you can take to keep functioning on all your mental cylinders during tough times. These steps range widely from basic relaxation techniques to the development of a reliable support network.

    Other options include:

    - Keeping a food journal to help you identify your emotional eating triggers
    - Cultivating mental and emotional well-being through practices like meditation, mindfulness, massage, and yoga
    - Developing good problem solving skills
    - Turning to the Message Boards for help and support when you need it; offering help to others as a way to get your mind off your own troubles and gain a little perspective on things
    - But all of these things take time, and there are many instances when you need something you can do right now, to keep yourself grounded, focused and able to make good decisions. After all, you don’t always have time to take a walk, relax in a hot bath or call a friend to talk things over. That’s what we’ll be talking about here—a 3-minute trick for handling stressful situations in the moment.


    De-Stress in 3 Minutes or Less

    Minute 1: Stay Grounded

    Emotional eating happens when you lose your connection to your grounded self. Stress itself is not what makes you reach for something to eat. In fact, stress is often a good thing and your grounded self knows this! We need the physical stress of exercise to keep our bodies in good shape just as we need the stress of intellectual and emotional challenges to keep our minds healthy.

    Nine times out of ten, what really leads to emotional eating is getting caught in a "mind storm" of worst-case scenarios, projections, misinterpretations, and all the emotional overreactions that come with these thoughts. This "storm" turns a manageable challenge into something that makes you feel helpless, overwhelmed, ashamed or afraid—and sends you to the kitchen to find something to stuff those extreme feelings. When you can stay grounded in the moment of stress, you have many more options.

    Here are some simple ideas to keep you grounded when something (or someone) pushes your buttons and your feelings start to spiral out of control:

    - Take a few deep breaths. (You can also count to 10, if that helps.) If the stressful situation involves someone else, take a timeout and agree to continue the discussion in a few minutes.
    - Remind yourself where you are. Take a look around, noticing and naming the colors and shapes in the space around you.
    Notice the physical sensations you are experiencing. Whether it's a sinking feeling, turmoil in your stomach, tension in your hands or jaw, restricted breathing, or heat on the back of your neck, try to name the feelings that go with the sensation. Is that sinking feeling fear, or dread? Is the heat a symptom of anger?
    - The idea here is to stay in your body and in the moment—with what’s real—instead of going inside your mind where all those unreal scenarios are just waiting to get spun out-of-control.

    Minute 2: Reality Check

    Once you’re calm enough to start thinking productively, put all those thoughts that are clamoring for attention inside your head through a quick reality check. Here are several very common thought patterns that have no place in reality. Do any of these apply to you?

    All or nothing thinking
    Example: You go over your calorie limit or eat something on your “forbidden” list, and then decide to keep eating because you’ve already “blown it” for today. Reality: Weight loss is not a one-day event. If you stop overeating now, you’ll gain less and have less to re-lose later. That’s something to feel good about!


    Reading your own thoughts into someone else’s words

    Example: Someone made a mildly critical or unsupportive remark to you, and you feel completely devastated. Reality: The more bothered you are by such remarks, the more likely it is that you are being overly critical of yourself. When you treat yourself with respect, what others say won’t matter nearly so much.


    Either-Or thinking

    Example: You make a mistake or have a bad day and feel like a complete and hopeless failure. Reality: No one does well all the time. Mistakes are a necessary and valuable opportunity to learn—if you don’t waste them by getting down on yourself.


    Taking care of other people’s business

    Example: Something is going badly for someone you care about, and you feel responsible, or pressured to fix it. Reality: People need to learn from their own problems. You aren’t doing anyone a favor by trying to fix things just to make yourself feel better.

    Minute 3: Putting Things in Perspective

    Most common problems that you face in everyday life are much easier to handle when you keep them in perspective and avoid making mountains out of molehills. Here are some questions you can ask yourself to make sure you aren’t in the mountain-making business:

    How big a deal is this, anyway? If I knew I was going to die in a week, would this be something I would want to spend this minute of my remaining time on?

    Will any bad things happen if I postpone thinking about this until I have more time to figure things out?

    Do I have all the information I need to decide how to respond to this? Do I really know what’s going on here, or am I making assumptions? Am I worrying about things that might not even happen? What do I need to check out before taking action?

    Is there anything I can do right now that will change or help this situation?

    Am I trying to control something I can't, like what other people think, say, or do?

    Have I really thought through this problem, and broken it down into manageable pieces I can handle one-at-a-time?

    Use this approach whenever your thoughts or situations begin to feel overwhelming, and you'll quickly find that the mountains that seem impossible at first can quickly morph into what they really are—manageable hills that you DO have the ability to climb. All it takes is three little minutes of your time.
  • richardsrm
    richardsrm Posts: 1,144 Member
    mollie that was powerful Thanks so much.
  • kailauli
    kailauli Posts: 19
    Awesome! I need to bookmark that one
  • richardsrm
    richardsrm Posts: 1,144 Member
    :drinker: hi everyone, been busy around here getting ready for my company. I will start summer vacation on Tuesday , can't wait but will be here lots so I don't use idle time as an excuse to binge. Thanks again Mollie I have read that several times. It is ok not to be perfect. hugs Richie
  • kailauli
    kailauli Posts: 19
    Has anyone heard of this program or tried it? I like the idea of skyping with counselors

    http://www.hungryheart.org/user.php?frm=prod_detail&pg=&cat_id=24&pro_id=19
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    Check out this challenge and come join us in The other Binge Eating Support Group if you are up for challenge. I am a member of both groups but since it started in the other group I felt it only fare to keep it in that group thread. See link below:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/651698-july-challenge-the-binge-vs-me?page=1#posts-9454388
  • IsMollyReallyHungry
    IsMollyReallyHungry Posts: 15,385 Member
    Please see new link for the rest of the year:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/653800-binge-eating-support-group-daily-conversation-2012

    Make today a good one!:flowerforyou:
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