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Have you ruled out thyroid issues? When I had undiagnozed hypothyroidism, I had the same problems. It was extremely hard to lose weight.

oops sorry..I didn't read you asked for suggestions other than smoothies and drinks

I add it to smoothies which I have for breakfast. This is the recipe I use: 140 grams mixed frozen fruit. I get a couple of fruit blends from costco (berry blend and tropical fruit blend) and alternate between the two. 1 scoop protein powder 1 tablespoon kale powder 2 tablespoon full fat greek yogurt

If you don't feel like eating breakfast, then just skip it. I had the same experience as you. I just decided to eat my breakfast when I feel hungry which is around 10:00 AM (instead of having breakfast at 7:30 or 8 AM). This has helped me a lot in controlling my hunger.

Here are some examples of what I got in this very thread: So once again someone tries to claim that she is not responsible for gaining weight, unlike the rest if us. Sorry, your weight issues are NOT different from those of others. If it's willpower for us, it's willpower for you. Anything to deny responsibility for weight…

I am sorry..the scientific evidence you provided was not convincing enough for me (the same way the references I provided were not convincing for you). It shows how biased you are with your opinions. If you provide something, it is scientific, if others provide something, it is not scientific. And it is never favours…

Wow...looks like you know me better than myself.

Me too.. :smiley:

Exactly...this debate is over. I am not going to change my mind (at least with evidence provided here and the kind of absolute statements made as if they have experienced every thing about sugar and so know everything about sugar), neither the people whom I am debating with.

Sure..please prove to me that entire scientific community has discredited Lustig.

Really...please prove to me that every scientist in the world has labeled Lustig not credible.

:smile: I am convinced by rat study and effect on my health by cutting out all added sugar and grains. I don't consider removing added sugars have huge human cost which necessitates endless studies like in case of some drugs where rats are not sufficient and we need human subjects. We evolved not eating refined sugars, we…

Really? If it was not a personal preference, we would not be having this debate, Guardian wouldn't have published an article quoting him heavily, his youtube video wouldn't have gone viral. Every one would have decided he is not credible and he would be found no where. We are having this debate because many consider him…

Well..you can have your opinions. The irony is we are debating about an article that heavily relies on Lustig's work and you don't want to quote him.

Again your argument doesn't prove anything. A person with lower metabolism may have same appetite as a person with higher one, or lower appetite or greater appetite. Please don't argue for the sake of argument and don't quote everything out of context.

Again, you are quoting this out of context. @Jane Snow gave me an example, I plugged in the numbers. I said this to prove that the author's claim in Scientific American the differences in results between rats and human beings are exaggerated has no value because as you correctly noticed I could plug in a value that Jane…

You should read what we me and @Jane Snow were debating about before making this statement.

I completely agree with I also agree that we should educate people about metabolism, differences among people, how significant weight changes small variations in metabolism can bring and how people can have slow metabolism (and otherwise in good health) still be manage weight.

We applied the correction you suggested right here for the most reasonable case of a can of coke using the numbers provided by the article and using a liberal estimate that only half of glucose resulting from fructose gets to fats. Here is a paper where Dr. Lustig answers your question.…

We were not debating how a person who has slow metabolism can manage his weight. We were debating if variations in metabolism is significant enough to cause obesity in a person. I have not put any words in your mouth. I have copied what you said here. Please show me where is the discussion about how a how a person with…

Sure...we applied a correction to compensate for the exaggeration that the article claims and we see it is still a huge impact. So just because he is claiming that differences are exaggerated, it still doesn't mean the impact of sugar on human beings is insignificant. So that argument is not worth much.

Well..you can constantly move the goal post. I specifically answered to your point that metabolism doesn't contribute to obesity because the difference in metabolism is insignificant. I just showed that is not the case. All things being equal, even exercise being equal, modest difference in metabolism can contribute to…

Let us consider you argument and take a can of classic coke which is just sugar (so that we don't have fat or any protein or complex carbohydrates coming into equation and a can of coke is something many people consume). Google says it has 39 grams of sugar. Let us say 25% of that get converted to fat which is roughly 10…

let us say we are same height and weight to begin with and you burn a modest 125 Cal per day more than me. That means if we eat the same food, I am twelve pounds heavier than you per year. If we consider 250 Cal per day which is what the study you referred to suggests, then I am twenty four pounds heavier than you. That is…

I don't fault corporations. But I think educating people about the amount of refined sugar that gets added to the food and its ill effects is extremely important. I welcome the addition of added sugar on the nutrition labels.

Even I agree with the first. Just like peanuts triggers allergies for some people, eating sugar changes brain chemistry that leads me to over eating which in turn causes obesity. I am not saying eat sugar causes obesity. And I believe in CICO, A calorie is a calorie (the energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 gram of…

Of course, the only point I am differing with you is sugar makes people over eat and it is not purely in their control and matter of will power. As ketomom said, there is a physical component to it for many people. Hence it is a major contributor to obesity problem.

Sure..some people may have excellent metabolism which burns off excess sugar. It is not true for everyone on this planet. If all our bodies were identical and excellent, then we would not have issues like obesity today.

Sure..I did go through the article. I found two places where it mentions rat study. A. A more compelling criticism is that concern about fructose is based primarily on studies in which rodents and people consumed huge amounts of the molecule—up to 300 grams of fructose each day, which is nearly equivalent to the total…

A simple google search will point you to papers. Here is the first link that turned up and I have copied the conclusion. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/ The reviewed evidence supports the theory that, in some circumstances, intermittent access to sugar can lead to behavior and neurochemical changes…