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Dropping back to 2400 this week. My weight is still up; and its interesting to me that I had a big jump (about 3 pounds) that I never fully came down from. Unless it is due to my cycle although it doesn't usually happen that early. If thats not the case, then I did not seem to gain any at the beginning last time (can't quite remember lol).
I feel like I was much more stable at the beginning of january (the first clump of weigh ins in the pic i previously posted).
If this is my tdee then the em2wl calc was right on for me (2380) and I am already into my reset by 4 weeks
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Also, wanted to add that I finished "evolve" em2wl's hypertrophy plan! Moving onto true strength! My goal is to deadlift 200 pounds before its over 0
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justsayinisall wrote: »
Lol. Its definitely bigger than me or my hubby. I eventually want to hit 300.
I have to brag that I can dl more than hubby but i only brag because he can lift more in every other lift, including squats. And the man has no butt.
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Woot woot! Yay for deadlift and yay for 2400 calories. Enjoy, and my advice is get those calories in consistent now so your cut will be effective. Seems like I spent much time resisting the increase and much time now wishing I had pushed higher.0
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KickboxDiva wrote: »Woot woot! Yay for deadlift and yay for 2400 calories. Enjoy, and my advice is get those calories in consistent now so your cut will be effective. Seems like I spent much time resisting the increase and much time now wishing I had pushed higher.
Do you mean once you found your tdee you still ate a little lower? Or you didn't push/test your tdee up as high as possible?0 -
@fitwithwitt88 this is my thread.0
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@saranharm thanks! Found you! 0
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KickboxDiva wrote: »Woot woot! Yay for deadlift and yay for 2400 calories. Enjoy, and my advice is get those calories in consistent now so your cut will be effective. Seems like I spent much time resisting the increase and much time now wishing I had pushed higher.
Do you mean once you found your tdee you still ate a little lower? Or you didn't push/test your tdee up as high as possible?
@KickboxDiva ?
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Well. The cut only works if you were actually metabolizing those calories and maintaining. Many times I didn't hit my numbers. I tried but there was still a lot of head play. "I ate cake I should cut back". Ect. If I was supposed to hit 2400 but missed 2 days and averaged 2200 then my cut should be off 2200 not 2400. I'm just saying When you get used to 2400 the cut is a bit challenging. You'll want it to work at the highest number possible. Stick to your allotted calories and try not to under eat so when you cut its a true cut. My metabolism is down regulating fast so after 5 weeks I'm 5 lbs down and just slid down to my lower calorie range today to keep the scale moving. I wonder if I could have gone longer at the higher numbers if I had been stricter on eating all my calories.0
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Has your weight actually changed that much to warrant that big a drop in calories - or you are hoping to chase a falling metabolism and daily burn to keep a deficit?
I'm starting to think I know where this is headed.
Because in reality, a 5 lb drop is barely anything in drop to TDEE if it's all fat loss. Unless you are just so active in your daily life that carrying around 5 lbs less is significant.
I'll wait for updates though and hope it works well.0 -
KickboxDiva wrote: »Well. The cut only works if you were actually metabolizing those calories and maintaining. Many times I didn't hit my numbers. I tried but there was still a lot of head play. "I ate cake I should cut back". Ect. If I was supposed to hit 2400 but missed 2 days and averaged 2200 then my cut should be off 2200 not 2400. I'm just saying When you get used to 2400 the cut is a bit challenging. You'll want it to work at the highest number possible. Stick to your allotted calories and try not to under eat so when you cut its a true cut. My metabolism is down regulating fast so after 5 weeks I'm 5 lbs down and just slid down to my lower calorie range today to keep the scale moving. I wonder if I could have gone longer at the higher numbers if I had been stricter on eating all my calories.
Okay, i see what you mean now. Thanks for clarifying.
I usually hit my calorie goal- occasionally, like last night, i didn't get my last snack in. Sleep won over eating. But it is rare and I'm on target weekly.0 -
After a week back at 2400 (after dropping from 2500), my weight has stabilized again.
And i am 5 weeks into my reset!0 -
yay!! that's awesome...now you have a starting point. Have fun eating at your TDEE!!0
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Jennifer_Lynn_1982 wrote: »yay!! that's awesome...now you have a starting point. Have fun eating at your TDEE!!
Its funny how when I first increased (i ripped the band-aid off) I had soooo many calories! Then, it seemed like it wasn't enough and I had to cut some things out. Now it feels like plenty and with enough planning I can fit in some treats without cutting out important nutrients. I kinda feel like I've gone full circle in a way.0 -
It is incredible how your mind (and body) can adjust as you adjust!!0
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Jennifer_Lynn_1982 wrote: »yay!! that's awesome...now you have a starting point. Have fun eating at your TDEE!!
Its funny how when I first increased (i ripped the band-aid off) I had soooo many calories! Then, it seemed like it wasn't enough and I had to cut some things out. Now it feels like plenty and with enough planning I can fit in some treats without cutting out important nutrients. I kinda feel like I've gone full circle in a way.
Life in high calorie land is so glorious! I remember mourning the loss of 10% like it was a hunger strike! And that was 3000 down to 2700! LOL0 -
XavierNusum wrote: »Jennifer_Lynn_1982 wrote: »yay!! that's awesome...now you have a starting point. Have fun eating at your TDEE!!
Its funny how when I first increased (i ripped the band-aid off) I had soooo many calories! Then, it seemed like it wasn't enough and I had to cut some things out. Now it feels like plenty and with enough planning I can fit in some treats without cutting out important nutrients. I kinda feel like I've gone full circle in a way.
Life in high calorie land is so glorious! I remember mourning the loss of 10% like it was a hunger strike! And that was 3000 down to 2700! LOL
@XavierNusum i think i will mourn them too when cut time comes!0 -
Yup.. I'm at the lower end of the final cut and I was so resistant to going up in calories in the beginning. I can't wait to ease up now. There is no room for error at this level and I can't believe I lived this way for years.0
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Waiting to plan my cut around my vacation. Waiting for more info to plan my trip lol.
So far I am loving doing "true strength" at my tdee. Personal bests every time I lift
I am considering doing a cut for roughly 8 weeks while doing an endurance and hypertrophy plan (each 4 weeks) and then doing a tdee break for roughly 4 weeks while completing a strength plan. I tolerate lower weight, high reps; but I love high weight low reps.
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Generally figured if you can keep 1/3 of what got you to your weight - you'll maintain the strength.
But intensity must be maintained, so can only lower volume and frequency.
So if 3 days x 3 sets x 10 reps (90 weekly) got you there - then 30 weekly can keep you there, so 3 x 10 x 1 day perhaps, or 3 day x 1 set x 10 reps along with other rep ranges added around it.
Then when you come out of deficit and back to strength, ready to start where you left off. Higher volume first few workouts still a killer, but you'll have the weight at least.0 -
Update:
Weekly weigh ins:
Eating 2260
Dec 7- 160.2
Dec 14- 162.2
Dec 21- 162
Dec 28- 164.4
Eating 2400
Jan 4- 164.4
Jan 12- 165
Jan 20- 164.6
Eating 2500
Feb 1- 167
Feb 8- 168
Back down to 2400
Feb 15- 168.8
Feb 22- 170
Back down to 2300
Feb 26- 170.8
Feel like I just keep gaining. I want to cut starting march 7th. Does my weight need to be stable first?0 -
That's how I felt too. Gained and gained and gained. I felt miserable. I would say you might have found your tdee at 2400?? Eating at that it seemed like your gains were small. Maybe try eating at 2400 a little longer this time?
That's where my tdee falls. I finally cut and the scale is moving in the right direction at eating 1900-2000 calories. At first I was a little moody because of missing my food, but it's all good now. Lol0 -
I'd agree, it look like 2400 might be close to your TDEE - keep there and then adjust by 50 or so calories up or down to confirm.0
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I Thought 2400 was tdee. I went up to 2500 to confirm 2400 was my tdee. When I went back down to 2400, i still kept gaining. So i went down another 100, still slightly gaining.
I will try sticking to 2400 for the next week and a half and then cut.
I may take next week off of lifting, haven't decided yet.0 -
Keep in mind - If you take a week off of lifting, you'll need to adjust your intake because your TDEE will change. It might be better to continue lifting to keep the consistency in your activity/calorie intake 0
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Jennifer_Lynn_1982 wrote: »Keep in mind - If you take a week off of lifting, you'll need to adjust your intake because your TDEE will change. It might be better to continue lifting to keep the consistency in your activity/calorie intake
Good point. I just feel very tired and we have a busy weekend coming up. I will try to rest and i may lighten up at the gym a little. Its supposed to be PR week, but I may only go for a squat PR.
Maybe some of it is lack of motivation. Usually, once i reach a goal, i am content to stay there. For example, i ran a half marathon in 2011- haven't ran more than a 20 min hiit since then. Lol. My original weight lifting goals were 100 bench, 150 squat, 200 deadlift. I've reached 2/3.
I'm actually looking forward to going back to an endurance phase of lifting, which surprises me
Anyways, rest and cake and birthday dinners coming up. We have 3 birthdays in our immediate family this week 0 -
Maybe it's time to set new goals?0
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