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  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    Whew! Lots to process in response to your comment @50extra. So first off, The body fat % being considered acceptable meant literally that; acceptable, not obese. I used the calculations from 2 different online calculators that asked for several measurements, and go the same 28% from both. However, looking at the image you shared, I'd guess that I was PROBABLY around that 20% mark at 175...maybe lower %...I really don't know for sure, only basing on the pics. Then I started considering the whole fitness model/body builder weight of 150ish. I, of course, did some research. Fitness models are in the 15-17% range, and the body builders at 10% weighing around 150 average about 5'5"; 4" shorter than me. Anyway, that's still not enough info for me, so more research. I tried 12 different online body fat calculators, including the 2 from my original calculations. I used the same measurements on all of them, except that some did not allow decimals, forcing me to round up or down accordingly. The verdict...

    4 websites said about 28% (acceptable range)
    6 websites said about 43% (severely obese)
    2 websites said about 35% (obese)

    Two of these websites even claimed to be accurate within 1-3%, but they didn't give me the same results.

    Conclusion: I have no effing idea what my body fat % is! LMAO
    BUT with all the added research and images, I'm GUESSING that the 35% is PROBABLY the most accurate. In those pics, I'm between the 35% and 40% images, but I don't think that's accurate either because just as people carry pounds differently due to height and shape, I suspect that the fat % itself is going to look different on people of diffent shape specifically. But, what do I know.

    On a side note, I did 45 minutes on a stationary bike today, and my left foot started to fall asleep. My sit bones were hurting do to how uncomfortable seat was, so I had to get off of it and move to a treadmill for the other 45 minutes of my workout. And I've been SO incredibly hungry since then that I ate back all but 5 calories...unless I skip my evening pecans, but I don't see that happening.
  • 50extra
    50extra Posts: 751 Member
    Haha thanks for the reply Jillian, you ran into the same problem as me when I was trying to figure out BF%. It didn't matter where I looked it was different information and a different set of a standards and different suggested %. The internet is a great thing but it can be too confusing sometimes, this is why I was looking for the clarification because I was going to try and run some numbers for myself. Ultimately I got fed up with it and just went and got a body scan done to tell me mine.

    Now for your workout, great job on it! 45 minutes is about the longest I ride but lately its been only 25-35 minutes because I'm burning out too much doing HIIT after doing T25. The fact that you were able to move from 45 minutes on the bike to 45 minutes on the treadmill is great. That transition is killer on the body. Years ago I had to train for months and months finishing a bike ride and going to the tread/run because I was getting instant leg cramps and wanted to do triathlons. Apparently that wasn't an issue for you so you probably don't appreciate how lucky you are to be able to do that effortlessly.

    If you are running out of calories and don't want to cut out the nuts you could always try and change the kind that you are eating. Pecans have more calories than any other nuts other than macadamia. They have 72 grams of fat per 100 grams of nuts. You could switch to a lower variety like a cashew or a pistachio? I've never eaten a chestnut but they have less than 1/3 the fat as macadamia and like 1/9th the calories. Just throwing out some suggestions. The fact that pecans are 93% fat scares the crap outta me.
  • 50extra
    50extra Posts: 751 Member
    Typo, meant to say that 93% of pecans calories comes from fat.
  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    Ha! I'm doing HFLC, so gimme pecans all day! Really though, I only eat one serving. It's my typical evening snack. Even with them, I was going to be 5 calories under. Then I went to the basement/storage and spent 2 hours purging several huge totes, some medium sized totes, and a few boxes; all of which had to be moved from their location to my sorting station...then carrying kitchen sized garbage bags full of clothing and fabric to my donation pile. Needless to say, I ate the pecans. :wink:
  • 50extra
    50extra Posts: 751 Member
    Haha are you trying to make me look bad? You have a sorting station? It sounds like I need to learn a few things from you, my entire basement needs a sorting station, its a disaster down there, its unfinished so it turned into the storage facility, unsorted at that.

    The HFLC thing makes sense for the pecans. I'm not on an eating plan right now so I'm just CICO and with that pecans would be a nono for me.
  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    My size-smaller pants arrived the other day, and I'm happy to report that they fit wonderfully. I think I'll only need to buy one more smaller size before my "skinny" clothes start to fit again. I've debated on holding onto one pair of jeans from each of the recent larger sizes. On one hand, it would be handy just in case I ever need them again, but hopefully that day will never come. On the other hand, is holding onto them a psychologic set up giving myself permission to gain weight again? I totally overthink this stuff, but I got rid of EVERYTHING the other time that I lost a bunch of weight and it sure would have been nice to have a couple of staples this time around as I was gaining again. I don't need to decide now though.

    Today, I was starving! I used up 2/3 of my calories by like 9am. I had planned on doing 2 cardio sessions to make up for it, but we were out of town and didn't make it home until the gym was closing. I did at least get one session in by walking the mall with my teenage daughter. I was impressed that she was willing to walk a full 4 miles with me. After that, we went out for lunch with Jeff. Tried Applebee's since I know I can get appropriate food for a decent price. The wait wasn't too bad, but when a party of 2 came in and the host seated them at a 4 person table, instead of putting the 3 of us there, I walked out. Having worked in the food industry for many years, I know it gets stressful, but I really have zero tolerance for that poor of service. We then tried Olive Garden. Not a great choice for me, but I figured I could find SOMETHING at least kind of safe to eat. Another 30 minute wait, so we skipped that one all together and went next door to Old Country Buffet. EEEE

    I actually did pretty well. I had a salad, then a chicken thigh and broccoli, and a soft shell taco. The little square of cheesecake was the one bad choice (especially since I know I react to the dairy), and combined with my morning caloric intake it put me just under my calories, but WAY over my sodium. (I'm on my eighth water bottle today, and will very likely have a ninth, putting me at 27 cups of water.) Since I didn't get my second cardio it, I really had to plan my dinner strictly. Luckily, I wasn't very hungry and the sauteed veggie bowl was just the right amount of food. I'm a little over my calories, but today could have ended a lot worse!
  • 50extra
    50extra Posts: 751 Member
    Great news about the new pants, i'm sure that was a great feeling.
  • smiphette
    smiphette Posts: 177 Member
    Grats on the pants! I am looking forward to that soon.
  • LottieStanley
    LottieStanley Posts: 287 Member
    I happy that you went down a size :D I have clothes from each of my sizes I'm getting rid of them this time. Once I reach goal I'll probably replace clothes anyways. But I haven't donated them yet. Still have skinny clothes and clothes I thought were fat clothes that now seem like skinny clothes. I'm working at never being this big again. I feel if skinny clothes get snug hopefully I'll get back on track. But that's me and I'm no expert.
  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    I really didn't intend to skip journaling for so long. It's been a busy couple of weeks. I had stayed on track fairly well until this past weekend, then went hog wild and threw all fitness and nutrition goals out the window for a couple of days. I plan to post progress pics this week, since it didn't get done over the weekend. I'll probably wait until Thursday though, so I can flush some more of the weekend's water weight first.
  • 50extra
    50extra Posts: 751 Member
    I'm looking forward to the update
  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    edited April 2016
    Since my last long update, I had several days of extremely poor food choices and zero exercise. I was back up to 220, and while it was mostly sodium caused, I still put myself back by nearly 2 weeks. I'm not beating myself up, but rather recognizing that the severity of that indulgence wasn't worth so much time to get back to a pre-binge weight.

    This morning, I weighed in at 213.7 and am super excited that after some serious March stumbles, I'm back on track and at my lowest weight so far. I also did measurements. I didn't start tracking this until February (and even later for some specific measurements), but this is what I've lost since the beginning of the year....

    Waist (-0.5") This isn't going to change much because I'm bottom heavy(pear shaped), and my natural waist is fairly thin.
    Navel (-0.5")
    Hips (-3")
    Left Thigh (-1.75")
    Right Thigh (-1.5")
    Left Calf (-0.75")
    Right Calf (-1")
    Left Bicep (0.75")
    Right Bicep (0.75")

    Total inches lost (10.5")

    Weight released since starting MFP in September (37.9 lbs)
    Weight released since January 1st (26.6 lbs)

    ....and the photos...
    Start of the year...
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    Current...
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  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    I forgot to mention that I had my yearly physical at the VA yesterday. My lady doc and her nurse were gushing about my weight change and asking me about how I was doing it. I didn't mention the HFLC thing until after we went over my bloodwork. My cholesterol and trigliglycerides have improved since last year's appointment. When I told my doc about HFLC, she was surprised, but told me to keep doing what I'm doing because it's obviously working for me. AND (time to get real with how our bodies change when we go from obesity to healthy) I asked about the dreaded abdominal skin flap. It's starting already, but I imagine it will get worse. Because I am already having minor issues with skin infections due to the extra skin, I asked if the VA can do anything about it. Check this out! As long as I get medical documentation of the frequency and severity of these infections, thereby proving that the extra skin is causing medical issues, the VA will likely pay for a panectomy (aka tummy tuck) after I reach my goal weight. WHAT?!?! Seriously? Ok, so it's not a guarantee, but it's definitely worth a shot!
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    Well I just read through your entries and I have to say amazing progress! To your most recent update, I to am finding out that setting myself back by overindulging frequently isn't worth it. Let's show the rest of the month who is boss :P

    By the way, congratulations on your engagement and I look forward to your next update! :)
  • smiphette
    smiphette Posts: 177 Member
    Wow! Amazing changes. Glad your doc is cheering you on and offering options!
  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    Thank you both!

    I went Nordic walking yesterday for the first time since last fall (maybe even late summer). I had forgotten how much more efficient it is than regular walking. The poles not only propel me to walk faster, but also create a full body workout. While I'm not actually sore, I can feel that I worked my abs, upper back, and triceps specifically.

    After letting my back heal fully, and working through some self-inflicted setbacks, I'm ready to start bodyweight training again. I'll pick that up again tomorrow for a MWF plan. I think I'm going to (re)start the Jillian Michaels 30-day shred on the opposite days. Of course, I'll continue walking, but some days will be Nordic walking outside and others will be in the gym.

    My goal for this week is to be down 2.3 pounds by next Sunday. That would put me at a 40 pound total loss by my next weigh in for my Biggest Loser group. Hopefully, I can get through the big meeting with my ex husband and our lawyers. I know I'm an emotional eater, specifically when it comes to anxiety and high stress situations. I guess, if I'm down at all by next Sunday, it would be a win.

  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    Nordic walking sounds fun! I think I may have to try it in the future.

    If you don't mind my asking, what body weight training program are you following?

    Good luck on your goal and the meeting with your ex! Keep your head up and your focus on your goals!
    Also, any progress is progress! :)

    I look forward to your next update!
  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    I really struggling with anxiety about this meeting today. I haven't done horribly with food, but not great either. I also didn't exercise at all Sunday or Monday, even though doing so would have surely helped with the shakiness and racing heart and mental fatigue from considering what might happen today. Even though I already have a fairly decent idea what's going to happen (either today with the guardian ad litem or in a few weeks with the county judge), I am scared to go today because I don't know how to be in the same room my ex. The degree of the psychological abuse that he has used against me surrounds him like a 20 foot aura. Being anywhere near him makes me nauseous. I managed to hold it together during our daughter's allergy appointment, but binged after. Today, I'm worried that I won't even be able to hold it together because of the nature of the meeting. I need to make sure I have dinner and snacks organized for after the meeting so I'm not scrambling for anything I can get my hands on.

    I'm planning on going to the gym for a 90 minute walk as soon as I get the rest of my things prepared for the meeting and have food planned for the rest of the day.

    Prayers, good vibes, positive energy, or any other long-distance support any of you have to offer would be welcomed and greatly appreciated. <3

    I'll try to post another update tonight about how the meeting goes.
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    Sending lots of positive energy your way!
  • tcunbeliever
    tcunbeliever Posts: 8,219 Member
    Hang in there Jillian!!!

    Maybe a nice cup of licorice tea before and/or after the meeting would help with the anxiety.
  • smiphette
    smiphette Posts: 177 Member
    Sending positive thoughts your way. The gym sounds like a great idea. Do they have a heavy bag? I find my emotional eating much more manageable when I can punch something. :) Heavy bags make a satisfying noise when you whack them too.
  • LottieStanley
    LottieStanley Posts: 287 Member
    Prayers for a good outcome. You've come so far try not to let him have the power over you. I think you're fantastic and an inspiration to others.
  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    edited April 2016
    Most of the meeting was good, until the end when I was told that my children are being ripped from their elite private school that they've gone to since they started school. I'm devastated. They don't understand why they can't stay. And I can't tell them the truth that this is their dad's doing. It makes me sick, and I haven't been doing well. Crappy food. No exercise. Just feeling depressed and helpless. Yesterday started to get better. I've offered to spearhead a project for the school that would create an action plan and specific info about the school for any future families that are facing circumstances similar to ours. It's a Waldorf school that attracts families from all over the country, yet the legal system here is bias against it because it has no understanding of it. I want to change that so other families have a better chance of preserving their education preference. Unfortunately, this won't help my children right now, but we are going to regroup and hopefully get the school issue reevaluated in a year. I'll be better armed with information by then.
  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    Just popping in briefly. I'm hoping to catch up on a few journals here, but it may have to wait a little longer. The legal crap is not dissipating. In fact, it's getting worse. I want to vent, but I'll spare you the nauseating monologue. Looks like Jeff and I may be pushing for a trial because the GAL is not doing her job.

    Anyway, the stress has oddly worked for me. My weight is down significantly, probably because I exercised a LOT last week to try to keep my mind off of things. A couple more pounds and I'll be under 210. Wow, that'll be nice!
  • 50extra
    50extra Posts: 751 Member
    Hey Jillian sorry to hear about whats going on with your ex. You will notice that I don't comment on things in peoples journals that I can't relate too which is why I am so quiet on some of your updates.

    The weight loss I can comment on! Getting down below 210 will be great! Good job on turning the bad situation into a good one by exercising more instead of turning to alternative measures to get your mind right. I'm sure the exercise helped you feel way better than a food would have. Do you have a time frame in which you want to get down below 210?
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    I'm sorry the legal crap is getting worse but I am happy to hear that the stress is working for you rather than against you. Stress sucks. I hope it gets situated (and in your favor) soon!
  • PrimalJillian
    PrimalJillian Posts: 1,129 Member
    Thanks for the kind words. I know that most people don't really know how to respond to situations like mine, and I understand that it's easier to just not respond. It's all good. Sometimes it's nice to express what's going on in my life that will, and is, clearly having an effect on my health journey.
    I, too, am glad that the stress is leading me to healthy management tools rather than unhealthy ones. I have been surprised by my extremely minimal craving of junk food or even just items that I have basically eliminated. This is a first for me, so I am definitely enjoying it. I have to be honest in saying that the days that I can't get to the gym are a bit challenging, but that's getting easier and as the weather continues to warm I'll be exercising outdoors most days anyway.
    As far as a timeframe for getting under 210, I'm planning for at least by May 8th. I do believe it'll be sooner though. I'm heading into TTOM, so water weight will temporarily slow progress, but yesterday I weighed in at 210.5. This puts my total lost to 41 pounds. I'm pretty stoked about this. I'm a little more than halfway to my big goal.
    I had a nice NSV yesterday, as well. I don't recall when I started wearing this particular belt, but I believe it was around the beginning of the year. At that time, I could JUST get to the first hole. Yesterday, I cinched it down to the 4th! I only have 2 more to go, and I'll need a new belt, as well as new jeans....although the jeans may need to come sooner.
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    Way to go on the NSV's and also for 41 pounds lost! That's awesome! :)
    I also find it a little more challenging on the days I don't work out so I understand that.
  • 50extra
    50extra Posts: 751 Member
    Jillian a 41 pound loss is a monster loss and you should be very proud of that. I'll be watching (impatiently) to see you break into the 20xs but what I am looking forward too even more then you getting down below 210 is when you hit onederland. You have been on a very nice streak losing weight since you had your little gain and I know you can keep it up. The nicer days ahead give us less excuse to not keep moving more.

    As for the belt and the jeans, I am sure that must feel great! I have been slipping into some old T-shirts lately and I know it makes me feel a little bit better inside.
  • 50extra
    50extra Posts: 751 Member
    Just wondering how things are going Jillian?
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