Histamines, inflamation and biohacking experiment starting

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  • SamandaIndia
    SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
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    @phrick thanks so much I love love love them, especially as they did not cause a sinus headache, nor a sore throat, nor even massive sneezing fit. Nothing, just beautiful, peaceful yummyness. Creme fraische and butter on top so lots of ingredients that I can eat. Trust me, my list at the momment is short so this is exciting news!!
  • jetsamflotsam
    jetsamflotsam Posts: 170 Member
    edited May 2016
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    I find this all very interesting. I have severe environmental allergies (grass, pollen, weeds, trees, mold, dust mites, cats, etc...) and something called Oral Allergy Syndrome. My diagnosed food allergies include soy, whey, wheat, carrot, banana, melons, MSG, and hemp. I manage my allergies by taking a 24 hour non-drowsy anti-histamine, and as needed I also use a nasal spray, and benadryl. I also have an air purifier running constantly and vacuum daily, etc...

    I've always maintained that my allergies are hormone induced because they started at puberty (as did PCOS), and I had NO hayfever while pregnant and breastfeeding, and they came back with a vengeance two weeks after my son weaned. I'm curious what will happen when I hit menopause! Also will be interesting to see if eating LC will have an effect on my allergies, positive or negative.
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,439 Member
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    I've lived my entire life with allergies to what was tested to be environmental triggers, like dust, grass... I was on all of the allergy medications, for years, and they never worked well. Since beginning this woe I have eliminated all allergy medications, and almost never have a runny nose anymore. I have found that tomatoes will cause a runny nose the next day. I believe the majority of my lifelong allergies were to the processed junk the big food companies have pushed on us as "healthy", or "good for you"!
  • DittoDan
    DittoDan Posts: 1,850 Member
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    I find this all very interesting. I have severe environmental allergies (grass, pollen, weeds, trees, mold, dust mites, cats, etc...) and something called Oral Allergy Syndrome. My diagnosed food allergies include soy, whey, wheat, carrot, banana, melons, MSG, and hemp. I manage my allergies by taking a 24 hour non-drowsy anti-histamine, and as needed I also use a nasal spray, and benadryl. I also have an air purifier running constantly and vacuum daily, etc...

    I've always maintained that my allergies are hormone induced because they started at puberty (as did PCOS), and I had NO hayfever while pregnant and breastfeeding, and they came back with a vengeance two weeks after my son weaned. I'm curious what will happen when I hit menopause! Also will be interesting to see if eating LC will have an effect on my allergies, positive or negative.

    Just a thought, with that many allergic issues, do you also any of the following digestive problems?:

    acid reflux,
    diarrhea,
    constipation,
    IBD,
    IBS,
    Crohn's,
    c'dif?

    If you do, you should start reading/googling/YouTubing:

    Gut microbiome
    GAPS diet
    Dr. Perlmutter
    Gut Microbiota
    Leaky gut syndrome

    ANd even if you don't have digestive problems, look up "Leaky gut syndrome".

    A lot of allergies come from a screwed up microbiota in your gut. And it is repairable.

    I hope this helps,
    Dan the Man from Michigan
    Keto / The Recipe Water Fasting / E.A.S.Y. Exercise Program
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  • jetsamflotsam
    jetsamflotsam Posts: 170 Member
    edited May 2016
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    @dittodan No digestive issues if I avoid the foods I'm allergic to. Only started having heartburn and constipation since I started eating LC but am hoping that will normalize again once my body adjusts to this new way of eating. Normally don't have issues. I doubt mine is a gut issue as they ebb and flow with hormone fluctuations. My son had leaky gut syndrome as a baby but he outgrew it, as babies normally do, but still has tons of allergies like me... and my mom and dad... and my grandparents... We both did a 5 month allergy treatment with a Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor and neither of us had any major improvement, but that's when I identified a couple more of my food allergies, which were later confirmed by an allergy specialist.
  • SamandaIndia
    SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
    edited May 2016
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    I wrote above @phrick thanks so much I love love love them,. Would be helpful to others if I put an article in that sentance! Feta cheese and chive Biscuits AKA Scones (for the Brits, Kiwis, Aussies etc)

    quote from @Phrick "I also really like to make theseSour Cream and Chive Biscuits "

    I knew eggs, butter, salt and almond meal were ok but Baking powder, baking soda, feta cheese, sour cream, even the creme fraische added as a condiment whilst I ate them are all new additions to my possibly ok foods. I was starting to wonder if I was down to not eating all dairy (except butter), thus the excitement level.
  • SamandaIndia
    SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
    edited May 2016
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    @karlottap like you I was tested for environmental allergens like dust and pollens. Despite my reaction when trees are in bloom and chronic sinus in dusty Bangalore, the tests came back negative. Rhematoid arthritus inflammation also back negative. All awesome.

    I suspect @DittoDan is on the right track with gut biome as a core source. Mine was clearly out of balance (too many Candida) which we handled with drugs n diet. I Still had /have headaches so more to improve and eliminate or add to my diet. BTW I have had low level sinus issues throughout my life, it just got worse in Bangalore (also timed with hospital visit, dodgy antibiotics and multiple bouts of gastro -which probably created great conditions to make my gut imbalance worse so thus the chronic fatigue later fixed by diet). Experiment continues.

    I Really appreciate the insight and support here.
  • jetsamflotsam
    jetsamflotsam Posts: 170 Member
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    @samandaindia Part of our TCM allergy treatment included an anti-candida diet. That can often be a source of inflammation. Have you treated candida yet?
  • dasher602014
    dasher602014 Posts: 1,992 Member
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    Found this:

    http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/2013/02/foodless-friday-health-benefits-of-diatomaceous-earth.html

    Hummm.... with my yeasties and beasties making VLCD impossible (when I am in ketosis for longer than 12 hours - all symptoms re-appear with a vengeance), I am skeptical but tempted to try. And the OP is a blogger about LC diet who ran into food intolerances and it was a miracle cure for her.

    Not recommending but very curious. Anyone else heard of this one?
  • SamandaIndia
    SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
    edited June 2016
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    @dasher602014 interesting. Never heard of it. Starting to appreciate how one coffee (bpc) with good coffee keeps me full whereas bad coffee makes my head hurt.

    I think hydration really helps me not feel like I NEED to eat.

    @jetsamflotsam thanks for suggestion. Yes one week of drugs and a 6 month very low sugar diet including no fruit treated the candida. April and May I have been eating some extra carbs in an effort to diversify diet when part of my core low sugar food list turn out to be triggering the headaches. Socialise and holidays so found it hard to just eat meat.

    Cheese, tomato avocado bacon spinach dark chocolate all off the edigble list combine with low carb really narrowed choice enough I rebelled and tried to find another way. Found that once I eat processed carbs I crave things like huge soft chocolate cookies. Bad for body. They dont like me either but brain has different ideas- need cookie. June will be better- back to low sugar n dodging known bloaters plus dodge headache causing foods.
  • SamandaIndia
    SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
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    My exception to low sugar held for girlfriend doing her farewell pre baby arriving. She baked Pink small lamingtons, blue shortbreads and swirled either pink or blue biscotti. I tried a little of each. OMG... headache!!! Reinforces my choice to lay off the sugar! Love her fresh bake goods and they hate me. Got to learn to hate them back!!
  • dasher602014
    dasher602014 Posts: 1,992 Member
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    It is hard to resist lamingtons! and I know them only from Oz visits. There was a shop in a town on the Mornington pennisula that had the best vanilla slice in the world, or so they said. It would have served 6 or 8 people IMO. But we were both saved because the shop was closing. Good thing with my lactose intolerance and DH diabetes. That was before LC so I don't think we would have been tempted now. (They also had the biggest and softest looking lamintons in the window).
  • SamandaIndia
    SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
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    Lucky break @dasher602014 who would have thought, saved by the closing bell!
  • SamandaIndia
    SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
    edited June 2016
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    Great weekend. Fatigue has popped back into my life gradually as I tried 2 months of adding in a few extra carbs also equating with stress of telling staff of downsizing and potential I could finish too. Doing relaxation and dance, like no one is watching, (NIA) I think helps both my mind and gut.

    Anyone who likes the seaweed that we wrap sushi in, nori. Aside from naked sushi (no rice) that I now use it for, I just got creative and fried some in coconut oil and salt. Nice n crunchy. No alergy either :)
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    edited June 2016
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    I am lazy and buy the packets of fried salted mini nori sheets in 5g single serving size from Japan or Korea for work snacks. I also like to snip nori into my 'spaghetti' sauce. Adds extra nutrients and my hubby thinks it is spinach, bwahahaha - he is not a fan of sushi - it's a mental thing for him. I also use dried bull kelp as chips/UK crisps, but not sure if that would be any good for you.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,104 Member
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    Found this:

    http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/2013/02/foodless-friday-health-benefits-of-diatomaceous-earth.html

    Hummm.... with my yeasties and beasties making VLCD impossible (when I am in ketosis for longer than 12 hours - all symptoms re-appear with a vengeance), I am skeptical but tempted to try. And the OP is a blogger about LC diet who ran into food intolerances and it was a miracle cure for her.

    Not recommending but very curious. Anyone else heard of this one?

    @dasher602014 I bought some diatomaceous earth at the recommendation of @dietbepsi. She posted this comment in the post about Biotin and hair loss:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x55jNuCIbo

    I posted this recently (a few minutes ago) on another topic. I really recommend looking into food grade diatomaceous earth. The stuff is amazing and helpful with so many things! For hair and nails, intestinal health, cleansing, skin, it's anti-aging, it's truly amazing.... I have definitely seen improvement in my hair which my hair dresser had told me a couple of months ago that my hair was thinning! I can't afford to lose hair! It's so much healthier. I really feel like the stuff is the all natural fountain of youth. Google it!


    I took it one day, but became concerned about the detoxifying effects, so I'd put it on hold, but I'm happy to have read the article you posted, and I plan to take some shortly, as I'm happy to say I have it with me! :) I got a different brand than recommended, but I'm sure they quality rating the one I got had means it will be good, too. I'm going to start slow, as I'm taking a probiotic and other stuff lately, too! :)
  • SamandaIndia
    SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
    edited June 2016
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    Caesar salad with no croutons but including tuna (odd) and cheese. Bloated like a basketball and fatigued. Later tried a meal replacement with milk proteins in it to test that idea and wham sneezing and sinus flare up. Guess dairy needs to be off my list for a while. I keep hoping a cheese style or some dairy would be an exception. No cheese, bacon, tomatoes, avocado and no gluten. This is getting trickier. Think I need to work on healing gut!!
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,104 Member
    edited June 2016
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    Caesar salad with no croutons but including tuna (odd) and cheese. Bloated like a basketball and fatigued. Later tried a meal replacement with milk proteins in it to test that idea and wham sneezing and sinus flare up. Guess dairy needs to be off my list for a while. I keep hoping a cheese style or some dairy would be an exception. No cheese, bacon, tomatoes, avocado and no gluten. This is getting trickier. Think I need to work on healing gut!!

    @SamandaIndia - The culprit here is most likely the Parmesan cheese in the dressing. It's got a STUPID HIGH histamine rating... Just FYI...

    And have you tried nutritional yeast with things? I can add it in and cut my level of cheese down by 80%.
  • dasher602014
    dasher602014 Posts: 1,992 Member
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    I second the nutritional yeast. I can eat sheep and goat cheese but when I want to reduce my cheese (or don't have any on hand) I turn to nutritional yeast to add that cheesy favour.

    @knitormiss thanks for the DE video. I was dubious but I think I will buy some and try a very little. See what happens. I so want to lower my carbs and lose some weight but my yeasties won't let me. DE seems to be a cure-all and that makes me skeptical. But I am going to try it.

    Thanks
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
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    Well, I could see where DE might work, after all it is the mineral shells of tiny algae. Here's the mineral content from a site about deworming/killing parasites in livestock:

    Diatomaceous Earth provides a broad spectrum of naturally occurring chelated minerals. These include potassium, iron, calcium, magnesium, phosphate, sodium, titanium and others. Numerous accounts of gain have been reported when adding Diatom to a ration. With the lack of mineralization in modern grains, it isn't hard to conceive of mineral benefits from a finely ground natural mineral product. Feeding at 2% of grain ration can take care of both de-worming and mineralization. Most livestock will acquire a 'taste' for the mineral if a small amount is mixed in with other feed. After acquiring a taste for Diatom, they may take it free-choice.

    Diatomaceous Earth is a natural (not calcined or flux calcined) compound with many elements which include:

    Silicon Dioxide (SiO2) - 83.7%, Aluminium Oxide (A12O3) - 5.6%, Iron Oxide (Fe2O3) - 2.3%
    Calcium Oxide (CaO) - 0.4%, Magnesium Oxide (MgO) - 0.3%, Other Oxides - 1.9%.

    Analysis of Other Elements:

    Copper - 2ppm, Strontium - 100ppm, Titanium - 1800ppm, Manganese - 200ppm.
    Sodium - 2000ppm, Vanadium - 500ppm, Boron - 50ppm, Zirconium - 220ppm.