Scale, why should I dump thee? Let me count the ways....
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LOL... I seriously needed the giggles from this thread this morning. I, too, am in need of some vitamin D of the BF variety. Instead... I will go back to slow cooking my food for the week (brisket and white chili), marathoning Charmed, and grading Algebra tests.
On the original note: That's why I don't set numeric goals for each week or month. As long as the number trends downward, I'm happy.5 -
Unfortunately, the scale I have is a non-trickster, and I cannot *kitten* with it to change the result when I step on it. It doesn't matter where I put it (except on top of a pillow, probably but I haven't tried that) it gives the exact same result 3x to the 10th of a lb. If I do try to lean in a certain way, stand on one foot, or use the sink (lookin at you @RalfLott) for support it just reads ERROR. Dammit, I can't get away with anything.
I already have a *KITTEN* scale.
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canadjineh wrote: »Unfortunately, the scale I have is a non-trickster, and I cannot *kitten* with it to change the result when I step on it. It doesn't matter where I put it (except on top of a pillow, probably but I haven't tried that) it gives the exact same result 3x to the 10th of a lb. If I do try to lean in a certain way, stand on one foot, or use the sink (lookin at you @RalfLott) for support it just reads ERROR. Dammit, I can't get away with anything.
I already have a *KITTEN* scale.
I'd say you're pretty well *kitten* That's what happens when you buy quality products..... (And I can understand now how you might be driven to suggest bopping *kitties* when they disrupt your sleep.)
Maybe redo the color scheme to browns? (You'd eventually have to repurpose your finky scale to weigh ounces of broccoli or serve cocktails on. Then you could buy a suitable earth-tone replacement at a thrift store.) ??1 -
The scale and I have come to terms.. we've got an agreement if I'm honest it will be happy to let me know what it believes to be true based on my uneven floors. It also confessed to me that I need to develop a better friendship with the tape measure downstairs. However the tape measure and I only get to see each other maybe once a week3
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@ProCoffeenator absence makes the heart grow fonder (for the tape measure). My scale isn't a pink (hello) Kitty. It is a dull boring white and silver gadget. It does not match my pink, orange, and lavender bathroom colour scheme. Yes, my bathroom really is those colours. I need to buy this scale purely for aesthetic value.4
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ProCoffeenator wrote: »The scale and I have come to terms.. we've got an agreement if I'm honest it will be happy to let me know what it believes to be true based on my uneven floors. It also confessed to me that I need to develop a better friendship with the tape measure downstairs. However the tape measure and I only get to see each other maybe once a week
Can you trust the scale not to *kitten* around with the tape measure when you're not home?3 -
my scale I step on get a weight off on a again a pound difference of on again another pound difference. in under a minute I have 3 lb difference. I take the highest bit that is crazy!!
I think I need a kitten scale2 -
treehugnmama wrote: »my scale I step on get a weight off on a again a pound difference of on again another pound difference. in under a minute I have 3 lb difference. I take the highest bit that is crazy!!
I think I need a kitten scale
Swami says you've got a good one - save the $.0 -
I'm going to have to save my pennies for a new scale with the BF measure...any brands or scales that are affordable but accurate with this tech on them? I've had my ww scale for 10 years, I'm surprised the battery hasn't died with the number of times I have stepped on it, my kids have played with it, etc...we won't go to etc. I've been low carb for about 3 weeks and only lost 6 lbs, I don't think I've been in ketosis the whole time...I'm having difficulty letting go of my fruits and veggies. But I have noticed a huge diff in my clothes and I'm using that as my gauge that I'm doing something right.1
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ProCoffeenator wrote: »The scale and I have come to terms.. we've got an agreement if I'm honest it will be happy to let me know what it believes to be true based on my uneven floors. It also confessed to me that I need to develop a better friendship with the tape measure downstairs. However the tape measure and I only get to see each other maybe once a week
Can you trust the scale not to *kitten* around with the tape measure when you're not home?
I have them separated. Different rooms, different floors. It also helps the tape measure is kept to n my pin box. So if that scale comes looking it's in for a surprise!4 -
@ProCoffeenator ... The getting on and off and in the buff. That is me too. I purchased mine from Amazon. Their top seller was only 23 bucks. I get on then off then on then off.. you get the idea. It weighs the same each time unless their is some bathroom activity in there somewhere.1
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When I say uneven floors... ridiculous granite tiles that nobody in their right mind should have ever installed! They are a *kitten* to clean because of all the crevices in them.
So the habit was born of stepping on and off a few times to make sure you've got a level spot!4 -
I have a bad habit of basing my entire day's mood on what the scale says each morning, which is obviously counterproductive. I still weigh every day (same time, same place, same circumstances) and try to look at trends rather than individual data points. Five extra pounds on me equals a completely different clothing size so I don't have much engineering tolerance.
To weigh or not to weigh, that is the question.1 -
I refuse to let a piece of machinery (very liberal interpretation of machinery) dictate my happiness or lack thereof on a daily basis. I weigh twice a week and always consider any increase as "water weight" unless I've eaten off plan. In the latter case, I accept my actions and move forward as best I can. Typing into this little box is MUCH EASIER than carrying through with good intentions, but the bottom line is I have to accept that the scale is merely a tool and not anything more. (steps down from soap box)6
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throw your scale in a dumpster1 -
I have 2 scales and step on both of them every day. Though I recently discovered there is nothing wrong with ether scale my bathroom floor isn't level in the spot where they live. All these months of torture that could have been avoided with a level1
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Or a blow torch... .
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Lol....Funny thread.....I have what I have affectionately termed as OSD (Obsessive Scale Disorder).
Forget not weighing yourself once a day, when I wasn't working I might weigh myself 5 times a day. Definitely overboard!
On a positive note, it did help me to see that my weight can change dramatically throughout the day so I don't freak out anytime I see a number I don't like. I know it can change in 5 minutes!
Don't do the 5 times a day anymore, but still weight myself every morning first thing and every night before bed. And always nekkid!0 -
Ok, from a pure measurements science perspective (not a psychological perspective), taking measurements often makes sense. All the randomness in our weight (process noise) and all the variability in the measurement (measurement noise and bias errors) means you need to take more measurements to figure what is really going on. If you only take a weekly measurement but you have some cyclic fluctuation in weight or some random contributor the day you weigh, your measurement will not tell you really what is going on and could tell you you have gained weight when you really haven't. If you take a lot of data, you can see the trend-line through the noise to see what is really going on. If it bothers a person psychologically though, then that person shouldn't measure often. Also weight doesn't tell you what is happening to % body fat. You can gain muscle and weight and improve % body fat. I like to weigh and do so about twice a day. Once when I go to bed and once in the morning when I wake up.
I can stand on my scale with all weight on my right foot and then all weight on my left foot and the readings are about 5-lbs different! I try to stand evenly for my measurements.3 -
@blambo61, wouldn't the same logic apply to other biological measurements that sometimes seem unfavorable, like blood glucose and blood pressure....(and, uh.... IQ) ?
Absolutely! For understanding what is going on, the more data the better. Somethings you cannot even tell what is happening without enough measurements and you can actually corrupt your data by not measuring fast enough (google aliasing). Problem is, data costs money. In the very long term though, infrequent measurements of weight will still show you what is going on as the overall trend is larger than the fluctuations, but short term, infrequent measurements can tell the wrong story and could discourage people. That all has to be weighed with the discouragement people might get by also see slow progress with frequent measurements.2 -
@blambo61, wouldn't the same logic apply to other biological measurements that sometimes seem unfavorable, like blood glucose and blood pressure....(and, uh.... IQ) ?
I am for required IQ testing of politicians. Just sayin'. Of course we would have to have the tests closely monitored since a politician who doesn't cheat is a rare breed indeed.6 -
@blambo61, wouldn't the same logic apply to other biological measurements that sometimes seem unfavorable, like blood glucose and blood pressure....(and, uh.... IQ) ?
Absolutely for blood pressure. A one-time reading is essentially meaningless. The best thing to do it get an average over a period of time to have an idea of what range it falls in and what it averages around. Same with resting pulse, body size measurements, blood glucose, and so on. Even cholesterol, which most people give too much credit to a single reading.
I once had a doctor freaking out because my total cholesterol was 250. She was trying to make a big deal of it (likely because of my diet) until I pointed out that I get non-fasting total cholesterol numbers several time a year (from blood donation). My non-fasting average is below 200. Considering that the 250 was one of a few numbers over 200, out of a series in the healthy range, made me think it was a temporary thing and not a concern. Sure enough, my next blood donation had me back at 192.
Cholesterol Example:
* Range: 141-250
* Average: 182.5
* Median: 184.5
* Mode: 196
* Std-Dev: 24.9 <- that's a pretty big amount
Alright, maybe these aren't numbers a low-cholesterol proponent would be thrilled with, but I am happy with them. I'm actually ok with them being a little higher. And, those are non-fasting, usually I eat a large meal a few hours before blood donations.
The point is that any single measurement of the human body should be taken with a large grain of salt. Repeated measurements over time is the only real way to get an idea of what's going on.5 -
cstehansen wrote: »@blambo61, wouldn't the same logic apply to other biological measurements that sometimes seem unfavorable, like blood glucose and blood pressure....(and, uh.... IQ) ?
I am for required IQ testing of politicians. Just sayin'. Of course we would have to have the tests closely monitored since a politician who doesn't cheat is a rare breed indeed.
I like the way you think.2 -
@blambo61, wouldn't the same logic apply to other biological measurements that sometimes seem unfavorable, like blood glucose and blood pressure....(and, uh.... IQ) ?
Absolutely for blood pressure. A one-time reading is essentially meaningless. The best thing to do it get an average over a period of time to have an idea of what range it falls in and what it averages around. Same with resting pulse, body size measurements, blood glucose, and so on. Even cholesterol, which most people give too much credit to a single reading.
I once had a doctor freaking out because my total cholesterol was 250. She was trying to make a big deal of it (likely because of my diet) until I pointed out that I get non-fasting total cholesterol numbers several time a year (from blood donation). My non-fasting average is below 200. Considering that the 250 was one of a few numbers over 200, out of a series in the healthy range, made me think it was a temporary thing and not a concern. Sure enough, my next blood donation had me back at 192.
Cholesterol Example:
* Range: 141-250
* Average: 182.5
* Median: 184.5
* Mode: 196
* Std-Dev: 24.9 <- that's a pretty big amount
Alright, maybe these aren't numbers a low-cholesterol proponent would be thrilled with, but I am happy with them. I'm actually ok with them being a little higher. And, those are non-fasting, usually I eat a large meal a few hours before blood donations.
The point is that any single measurement of the human body should be taken with a large grain of salt. Repeated measurements over time is the only real way to get an idea of what's going on.
We should be careful making medical decisions based on a single measurement.2 -
cstehansen wrote: »@blambo61, wouldn't the same logic apply to other biological measurements that sometimes seem unfavorable, like blood glucose and blood pressure....(and, uh.... IQ) ?
I am for required IQ testing of politicians. Just sayin'. Of course we would have to have the tests closely monitored since a politician who doesn't cheat is a rare breed indeed.
Not necessarily cheaters.... maybe just open-minded as far as lobbyists for the testing industry are concerned. (Perhaps the same lobbyists who induced our elected reps to prestidigitate ketchup into a "vegetable"..... ) 0 -
prestidigitate ketchup into a "vegetable".....
wow.
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SuperCarLori wrote: »prestidigitate ketchup into a "vegetable"..... wow.
A regulatory miracle!
(It's something like a Dutch treat.....)2 -
SuperCarLori wrote: »prestidigitate ketchup into a "vegetable"..... wow.
sounds like hocus pocus to me....3 -
SuperCarLori wrote: »prestidigitate ketchup into a "vegetable"..... wow.
A regulatory miracle!
(It's something like a Dutch treat.....)
You must mean Kecap Manis - Dutch Indonesian sauce - basis for the word ketchup.1
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