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  • Elise4270Elise4270 Member Posts: 8,375 Member Member Posts: 8,375 Member
    karllundy wrote: »
    Confession - just scarfed a donut...it is my family's post-dentist tradition going back 30+ years. It was good! :smiley:

    Hog wash Karl! Everyone knows French fries are the traditional post dentist snack.
  • hanlonskhanlonsk Member Posts: 768 Member Member Posts: 768 Member
    Ummm I thought it was ice cream... but that may just be because my eye doc was across the street from a Dairy Queen, and dentist was fairly close to it... and so both would write actual prescriptions for Dairy Queen that would get you a free ice cream......

    Also, we learned the hard way I did not agree well with many dentist visit substances as a kid, and so it was agreed upon to not feed me prior to dental visits (you can use your imagination here) ..... so I generally needed something to eat after- and well sometimes ice cream/milkshakes are all you CAN eat by the time a dentist gets done with ya

    Yesterday WAS national chocolate day- so my sins to confess involve some chocolate cookies at work

    But I do like the idea of dietary accountability.... this may be huge for me since dang Doc gave me a running ban the other day. I run simply because I like food too much to believe I can lose weight/maintain weight with diet.... and now they took running off the table *sigh*
  • Elise4270Elise4270 Member Posts: 8,375 Member Member Posts: 8,375 Member
    @hanlonsk I'm on a no running restriction too, for another week. I've just cut back from 20-25mpw to less than 10. So hard. And I bought a mountain bike so I don't lose cardiovascular endurance in this heat. I've managed to keep my weight in check, unless my scale is pulling a big "fat" joke on me.

    I'll confess that I haven't been eating great. I'm kinda holding out for my next doc visit. Then I can add running and more calories/better nutrition. And the pool should be back open in September, can't wait!

    I had no cookies yesterday. Or chocolate. I did have Halo ice cream for dinner though. It's not real ice cream so it's only half a sin. :wink:
  • hanlonskhanlonsk Member Posts: 768 Member Member Posts: 768 Member
    Yeah, I have been doing a LOT of weights training. And so far weight isn't getting too out of wack, although it could easily happen. And halo- well it has halo in the name - it CANT be a sin, right? It has as much protein as sugar, so I always claim I am eating it in the name of macronutrients.

    And my running ban.... it's a bit more vague- was kinda a no running blanket statement- X-rays were normal- so, I responded with - ok so back to running and I'm just a wimp? And got "no, probable soft tissue injury, continue to rest for a while" to which I responded "ok, maybe I'm dumb but I think I need more specifics, and a bit more of plan sounding thing- like it's been 3 weeks, how long is a while.... at what point do we say ok not getting better need new plan.... and what constitutes rest? Like running is off the table- - but what about weights, walking lots, hiking biking etc.... like I have voluntarily cut a few things (like weighted lunges) that seem to hurt, and I figure if it hurts it's probably not conducive to whatever non planned plan we seem to be wanting me to telepathically follow.... but waiting for a response to my request for her to actually use words and be less vague and more plan like and more specific in rest definition....

    ....did I mention I don't like docs?
  • Elise4270Elise4270 Member Posts: 8,375 Member Member Posts: 8,375 Member
    @hanlonsk Ya, that's kinda what I got from my doc's assistant last visit. The vague statement as to what exactly I am to avoid and why running is am issue if there is no pain associated with it. Which is why I've allowed some running.

    You try cycling any?
  • hanlonskhanlonsk Member Posts: 768 Member Member Posts: 768 Member
    See, my running has had pain associated with it- but I pushed past it and waited until after my half, so I wasn't running "against medical advice" for my half. But at apparently was long enough for the "good" ankle to end up with some Achilles issues- which actually is what convinced me to keep the appointment rather than decide I was over reacting. So, I understand her telling me to cease and desist. But it still needs to be in a way that isn't indefinite with no real next step. And I kinda suck at cycling. Which probably means I should do it more. I have done spinning some in the past when I needed the guided push and a break from high impact cardio for the day. But I will admit to hating every second of the spinning bit....I just know it's good for me. When I laid out specific questions as to "what all CAN I do" vs what constitutes rest, I actually separated out biking and spinning- because I consider them to be two different things in all reality.

    But, back to the original topic. I've done fairly decent this weekend. I have chosen to omit alcohol consumption for a while. The boyfriend has been doing this for 2 months now, and calories needed cut somewhere in absence of my usual amount of cardio. So we are at 5 days alcohol free now. Which doesn't sound like a lot, but considering the current hotel I am at for my weekday work travel has two hours a night where alcohol is on offer for free.... it is a huge step for willpower to avoid their free alcohol and snacks. Even the weekend date/adventure with the boyfriend landed us at a fairly healthy food choice of a vegetarian restaurant. But, we ended up sharing what is possibly the most amazing carrot cake I have ever had, and I did end up grabbing a few fun sized mounds out of the freezer because it is all that sounded good for dinner last night. So, once I snug up willpower on alcohol consumption, I think sugar may be the next mountain to tackle.
  • MobyCarpMobyCarp Member Posts: 2,927 Member Member Posts: 2,927 Member
    @hanlonsk - It might be time to seek a doctor who works with athletes. My PT has always been vague about when/how much I can run, but she's really good at giving me exercises that will help me get back to where I *can* run. Then she says stuff like, I can try but be ready to stop if I need to. I had to learn on my own what sensation meant "time to stop" versus "this is an okay stressor on the Achilles, for now." How did I learn? By making mistakes. Sigh.
  • Elise4270Elise4270 Member Posts: 8,375 Member Member Posts: 8,375 Member
    @hanlonsk Yay! On the vegetarian dinner and giving up the alcoholic carbs! I didn't do the best this weekend. We were out of town for a run and that always means new food places to indulge at. I did have a salad today for lunch while resisting the German pancakes. I love butter, and any reason to eat it! I did just finish oh the last two buckwheat pancakes that DH couldn't finish. But least I spaced the gluttony out :wink:

    Cycling is hard. But so is/was running the first few months of conditioning.
  • hanlonskhanlonsk Member Posts: 768 Member Member Posts: 768 Member
    Yeah @MobyCarp I am "trying" to be patient and coax some answers out, as Wyoming does not have a plethora of medical professionals. I know we have some specific orthopedic type docs. But I haven't even run across athlete focused ones here- and I know there has to be some in Colorado - and I should be more energetic to figure this out- but i haven't quite figured out where to start. But depending on the next set of answers, or lack there of- I may need to develop a plan B
  • shanabershanaber Member Posts: 6,006 Member Member Posts: 6,006 Member
    @hanlonsk - I would ask your doctor for a sports doctor recommendation. Maybe she knows of someone... even if they aren't right where you are, it might be worth having the name in case you need it later even just for a consultation. I know @Elise4270 goes to Dallas to see her doctor but lives in Oklahoma. Even living in a metropolitan area (Anaheim) I end up driving quite a ways to see a sports chiropractor.

    It was my anniversary this last weekend and I haven't run since last Wednesday when my daughter arrived to help us celebrate. We spent the weekend at a hotel at Disneyland (long story related to our wedding) and it was incredibly hot so no running, some walking and lots of snacking and fun eating. It was also our best friend's birthday and they were here too so it was just party time all around. By the time we got home yesterday I think all the rich food was getting to me so we just had salads for dinner. I also had agility class in the heat last night (85F still at 8:30pm) so I didn't want to eat much before I had to go run around for that. I did get up at 5:30 this morning so I could get out for a run and it was great - now I just have to get my eating back to normal and recover from the long weekend!

    This pretty much says it all!
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  • Elise4270Elise4270 Member Posts: 8,375 Member Member Posts: 8,375 Member
    Haha! @shanaber !!! I pinched my arm wing before lunch and told myself "that's a salad right there!" Haha!!

    Definitely travel to see a good doctor @hanlonsk if you need to.
  • Elise4270Elise4270 Member Posts: 8,375 Member Member Posts: 8,375 Member
    Anyone try these Lenny and Larry cookies? DH got a few for me. They are pretty good. Bit high in calories. One lemon poppy seed cookie is 360 calories. 16g of protein (vegan, no soy), and 30g sugar. I had half for a breakfast snack, the other afternoon snack.

    I could have had a Halo top ice cream for less calories and sugar and more protein. But eh, it is a cookie.

    Thoughts?
  • shanabershanaber Member Posts: 6,006 Member Member Posts: 6,006 Member
    I have not had those or Halo ice cream. 360 calories for a cookie seems like a lot, are they big? I would rather get protein from another source and just enjoy a good (homemade) oatmeal cookie for less than 100 calories.
  • Elise4270Elise4270 Member Posts: 8,375 Member Member Posts: 8,375 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    I have not had those or Halo ice cream. 360 calories for a cookie seems like a lot, are they big? I would rather get protein from another source and just enjoy a good (homemade) oatmeal cookie for less than 100 calories.

    They are very large cookies. Thick and probably 4.5' across. The Halo is worth it, 280 Cal's, 20g protein, 20g carbs. I'm just glad he didn't buy sugar cookies!
  • hanlonskhanlonsk Member Posts: 768 Member Member Posts: 768 Member
    Oh my... the chocolate is this week's issue. I avoided brownies on offer at work until I was personally escorted to the table and told to have one... it's a good thing it was the last one... or else it would have been more than one.... and m&ms... and dove chocolates.... it's a big deadline week at work... but I also just need to work on willpower.
  • shanabershanaber Member Posts: 6,006 Member Member Posts: 6,006 Member
    @hanlonsk - I am so thankful I no longer work in an office and don't have to deal with all the goodies. Another benefit of working from home! Is there something more healthy that you really like that could be an alternative 'treat' instead of eating all the chocolate goodies? Either that or you will need to break out for a run to either 'run off' or 'run away' from all those calories!
  • hanlonskhanlonsk Member Posts: 768 Member Member Posts: 768 Member
    lol I was actually proud of myself, I had avoided the brownies for 24 hours, but I was literally escorted to them... the rest of the chocolate consumption is on me alone though. :(
  • Elise4270Elise4270 Member Posts: 8,375 Member Member Posts: 8,375 Member
    @hanlonsk If I'm encouraged to eat crap at work I just get my share and throw it in the trash. They'll stop encouraging you to eat it :wink: At home I just give it to the dogs. DH quit buying cookies "for the dogs" after that. :smirk:

    I did eat work donuts. But it wasn't like I couldn't control myself. I was studying a method and there's something about a snack and reading I do enjoy. Then we've had burgers twice this week.... So, I'm on a veggies and lean meat diet through the weekend to get me back on track. My weight is up 3 pounds, but I am sure that's crap food and PMS haunting me.

    I have also learned that while it feels like I exercise a lot and think I should look like a seasoned marathoner, I in fact have lots of room for improvement.

    Today is 4 weeks of "no running" AKA "less running". So I'm officially taking myself off the restriction today. Even though every thing is in a flare up- I've also been sloppy taking the nerve meds which is also an antidepressant, that also keeps me from stress eatting.

    @karllundy How'd your week go?

    Edited to finish post. Work interrupted my post lunch the boss is still out lollygagging break.
    edited July 2017
  • karllundykarllundy Member Posts: 1,494 Member Member Posts: 1,494 Member
    Hmmm...last week was a mixed bag. Did well sometimes and others not. The weekend that just ended was pretty ugly. Waaaayy to much ice cream, donuts and dessert all the way around last week.
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Anyone try these Lenny and Larry cookies? DH got a few for me. They are pretty good. Bit high in calories. One lemon poppy seed cookie is 360 calories. 16g of protein (vegan, no soy), and 30g sugar. I had half for a breakfast snack, the other afternoon snack.

    I could have had a Halo top ice cream for less calories and sugar and more protein. But eh, it is a cookie.

    Thoughts?

    I've seen those cookies, but never tried them. Curious though. I am not a huge Halo Top fan, though I have only tried two flavors.
  • Elise4270Elise4270 Member Posts: 8,375 Member Member Posts: 8,375 Member
    Tsk tsk tsk @karllundy That sugar devil got you. The cookies are good. I decided that have too much fiber for me :o DH loves them.
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