Runners that need some nutritional accountability
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seanevan10 wrote: »fitoverfortymom wrote: »I have been doing a bit better with eating this week. I attribute this to generously eating my exercise calories (almost always half, because inflated sources) and making breakfast bigger. I do need to drink more water, which I am terrible at.
@fitoverfortymom, so I found this spreadsheet that calculates your basic BMR and calorie needs and then you put your workouts in. It spreads the calories over the week. I put that into MFP and don't eat any of my exercise calories back in. If you want to take a look, let me know.
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I have a few pairs of size 14 skinny bootcut jeans from Kohls that I wore maybe a handful of times. They are very forgiving 14s. I'm happy to send them to you. I also have a pair of forgiving size 12 skinny jeans from WHBM for when that day comes.seanevan10 wrote: »Well... considering I had one night where I asked a friend if grapes and cookies counted as dinner, and boyfriend and I celebrated his bday in a fairly gluttonous manner. I must be doing fairly decent the rest of the time, as scale is about where it's been for the duration of my no running time. (Friend's vote was yes, cookies and grapes counted as dinner, providing I top it off with halo top, for protein, in case you were curious)
But, I did get one of those shocking moments where you get reminded of how far you have come. I am on an interview panel for work tomorrow, so I need to be dressed up. Which, is fairly rare, usually jeans and a blouse suffice. Last time I had to dress up was mid December. I realized last night all of my dress slacks are size 14 or 16. I am currently wearing 6 or 8s, and the occasional tight size 10.
Soooooo...... guess who is stuck wearing a darn dress tomorrow.
for the dress, but 
for why.
@hanlonsk that is awesome!!! I love it. I had to actually get rid of a bunch of pants that don't fit! Like 18-20. I am in a 16 right now but could probably do a 14. I need to go shopping because I am running out of pants. Horrible problem to have, right?? Congrats!~!
I *just* started fitting into some size 10s and am pretty solid on the 10/12 border right now.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LxBPeTAAUQGy5Bi6il-k8YhPHCo4wbNpfsAUDJTDfiw/edit#gid=11
You will have to save as a copy and then edit on your own.0 -
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It's either that, or I give them to the thrift store. At least this way they are pants with a purpose!1
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I'm feeling moved to try a raw/real foods diet for the month. Which would just mean trying to eat one meal daily accordingly.
I'm struggling with an angry stomach, trochantric bursitis and staying focused without pouting. My co-workers are intolerable- I should probably grab an antidepressant today. Cuz it's me, not them. No I take that back, they are abnoxious... It's only partly me.
Doc appointment tomorrow and I'll mention the tummy troubles. He'll likely think it's my diet.. frozen pizza, cheese, butter, Halo, hamburgers....
I found a yoga class. And she also does massage. I felt she wasn't agressive enough... But I still think I'll give it a go. $55 for 8 weeks/1 class. Steal. Think I'll try to start that tomorrow.
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lol Elise regarding the coworkers.... I did one of those last week... I was even talking to the HR gal about my "progress" in current position.. when she saw the lightbulb cross my face ... like situation still sucks.... but the whole "I am reacting to this terribly" bit was the lightbulb... so I agree... it's only partially me...1
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lol Elise regarding the coworkers.... I did one of those last week... I was even talking to the HR gal about my "progress" in current position.. when she saw the lightbulb cross my face ... like situation still sucks.... but the whole "I am reacting to this terribly" bit was the lightbulb... so I agree... it's only partially me...
LOL!!! I recognized that my poo poo bucket just had little room in it today. I set the bucket down, and kicked it over.
before I wind up tossing it all over of them. Haha!
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Hi All! I am coming back after being away for over a week doing wedding stuff. I did ok during this time - ate reasonably well but definitely had too much wine. I didn't measure or log as it was too difficult with all the travel but I must have done something right because I did not gain. I only had time for a couple of runs and ended up with 3 days of no running in a row - that is a first without being injured.
I did read through most of the more recent comments (less daunting than the hundreds I have missed in the running challenge thread ). I definitely like the idea of sharing recipes and a virtual meal together! I have a good recipe for homemade protein bars that I really like. Also on the Fig bars - I am pretty sure you could use fresh figs rather than the processed dried ones if they have them where you are. My daughter has a fig tree and her roommate made a pizza with fresh figs on it while I was there. I always thought you had to dry them but she just sliced them right onto the pizza. I will likely try making the bars with berries though - I have been looking for a recipe to do just that.
@hanlonsk - that is so awesome on your clothes! I have to say one of the best things for me was a similar experience with my suits. I work from home but often have to travel for client presentations and could no longer wear my old suits - I had put off buying anything new for so long, even having the old ones taken in multiple times until they couldn't be any longer. It was so fun to have to go buy a size I am pretty sure I was never in before - at least since I was a child and probably not even then! Congratulations and I hope you get to have some fun shopping for something new and wonderful in that much smaller size!
A couple of comments on macros and eating/not eating certain food groups... For years I avoided fats of all kinds, avoided carbs (rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, cereals, etc.) as well as eating under 1500 calories/day. Like @girlinahat I am short and figured I needed lower calories. When I had the bodpod measurement done the tech told me my RMR would only be around 1100 calories/day and TEE around 1400. This worked for me for a while - I ate more on run days and around 1200 on rest days. Then I started having some pretty serious issues. As a last resort I went to see a nutritionist. 1st she bumped my calories to 2000/day (scared me to death and I still have a problem getting in that many) especially on running days. She also had me add in 'good carbs' and starches - potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, whole grain cereals. Next were healthy fats - olive oil, avocados and yes some butter. I always had low fat dairy and she wanted me to go to full fat but I really don't like the taste other than for cottage cheese. Now we are working on gradually upping the fiber levels. She recommends 25-30g of fiber/day and I was no where near that. The good news is I am finally starting to lose weight again and have gained a bit of muscle (almost 5 lbs).
The final piece of the puzzle once I could run without feeling like I was going to pass out all the time, was to get back to HIIT/Intervals, first once a week and now twice a week.
She also changed up my eating around my workouts - I have to eat something when I get up in the morning (1-200 calories), then something 30-45 mins before I run (oatmeal, a banana, toast and peanut butter) as well as something afterwards. Sometimes I have chocolate milk or half a piece of toast before my run and half after, sometimes I just eat my normal breakfast afterwards.
I am not saying any of this should or could work for anyone else - just what worked for me and to be cautious about not eating meals, not eating enough calories or cutting out entire food groups.
One other thing she gave me was ideas for easy lunches because I get tired of salads too and was pretty much just eating veggies and hummus for lunch instead. If you like quinoa (there are other things you can use for a base too but this is the one I remember) you can make it up ahead of time and add different things to it to make a bowl for lunch.... My SIL did this for me when she was here with quinoa, all kinds of fresh veggies (carrots, celery, peppers and a little spinach) and olives. We put a drizzle of balsamic dressing on it and it was delicious. You could add chicken too to up the protein. Also the variations are endless - I saw one that had a southwest flavor with chipotle seasoning, black beans and avocado. She also recommended a cook book called 'Bowl and Spoon' that is essentially all kinds of different bowl ideas.
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@shanaber that is so interesting. Thanks for sharing and being so specific with how you are eating around exercise. May I ask how long you have been eating at the higher calories and how much you have left to lose?
I have such a hard time eating less than 1500 or 1600 calories and I seem to be maintaining, which seems crazy. According to the online calculators, my maintenance should be around 2300 to 2400. But I want to lose another 30 to 40 pounds (currently at 185 at 5'7.5"). I almost always work out (run or strength) fasted and was just starting to experiment with eating beforehand.0 -
Ha @Elise4270 - If she could make a living with it here I am sure she would I must say having all the info logged was a big help for her. She went over several months of my diary, the summary mostly and then the details and when I go in to see her she likes to look it over and see how I have been doing and gives pointers on where she thinks I could do better... like more protein at lunch and more veggies and carbs at dinner.
@RunRachelRunnn - I was at maintenance for about 2 years and then started gaining. I kept eating less and running 100 miles/mo and still gaining. My daughter and trainer both told me I needed to eat more and not less as did my doctor, sort of in an around about manner. It wasn't until I started having serious issues running that I really got tried to figure out what was wrong. The cardiologist ruled out any issues as did my GP who really only offered an opinion that maybe I was hypoglycemic and needed to eat right before I ran and to make sure I was eating 'enough'. At that point my daughter gave me a referral to the nutritionist. By then I was up 15lbs and that was at the end of May. I initially gained 4-5 more lbs with the higher calories but by the 2nd week in June my profile had started to change with drops in visceral fat and then increases in muscle and reductions in fat. I have lost the initial 4-5lbs and have maintained the gains in muscle. So I still have the 15lbs to lose but honestly I feel SO much better and seeing the fat % going down is much more important to me than the number on the scale. That and fitting nicely in the dress for my daughter's wedding last weekend! I was panicked it wasn't going to fit any longer!1 -
Really interesting @shanaber.
I'm definitely one for full fat (love some butter, but then my housemate is French so what do you expect?!) And tend to go for protein and non-starchy veg to fill me, but only really do carbs at breakfast.
I DO think people can react differently to grain-heavy versus protein heavy diets. I'm a tons of veg girl, but I also notice if my carbs are low.
I have been reading lately that we should be focusing more on fibre to fill/satisfy, and so rather than up fats we maybe should go more with fibre.
Not sure how my bathroom would cope with that.....0 -
I am sooo bad about keeping up with this thread. LOL.
@shanaber, this is something that my hubby is having an issue with. Really eating enough. He is a big dude and yes needs to lose weight, but 1300 cals is not going to cut it for a 6'1" guy. He doesn't eat any carbs due to being diabetic and it works for him, but he needs to eat more so it doesn't cause other issues.
@Elise4270 thank you so much for the book. We have already tried out the superhero muffins and a sweet potato thing. I know, I can't remember exactly off the top of my head.1 -
@seanevan10 Your welcome! I so glad you can get some use out of it.0
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Mmm.. this looks good sans pasta!
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@Elise4270 -- I am not a fan of eggplant. I wonder if there is something else I could use instead? Have you tried spaghetti squash? I really like it but my husband wants 'real' spaghetti noodles...
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Here is the protein bar recipe. I made a few changes (less honey, less oil and no add ins). I also just mixed a few mini-chocolate chips in with the bar ingredients before I spread them in the pan. I really didn't want the mess of the chocolate on the top and honestly they don't really need the chocolate.
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@shanaber Oh those sound good! I have everything but coconut oil. I am pretty sure mine is bad since its like 5 years old
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The title of this thread pretty much sums me up 1
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I think we should all have perstomaattikastike wrote: »The title of this thread pretty much sums me up
Misery love company! Lol!0 -
Anyone have any NSV's?
I sure don't. Been lacking on my willpower and am up 3+ pounds. I am hoping most of that is water/glycogen.
Actually I ate a salad today. That's an NSV.
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I am meeting with trainer tomorrow to discuss his definition of "cardio" programming. Weight lifting makes me hungry. I am not running frequently or far enough for hungry to work. Scale is showing it. Something needs to change.1
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Anyone have any NSV's?
I sure don't. Been lacking on my willpower and am up 3+ pounds. I am hoping most of that is water/glycogen.
Actually I ate a salad today. That's an NSV.
I nailed my diet this week, even eating back exercise calories pretty generously, still lost .5 (which is my weekly goal). I've been eating a Pure Protein bar after my runs and then holding out on breakfast as long as I can (between 10am and 11am), then it's easier to bridge the gap to lunch.1 -
@fitoverfortymom nice!
My libra app says that if I don't reign it in, I'll gain 78 pounds over the next 12 months. I gotta get back on track.
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Ummm... my weights trainer keeps asking if I want to add nutrition programming.... I haven't decided if this means he needs a guinea pig... or if I'm looking even fluffier than I thought I was. Hoping for the former, betting on the latter, not sure I want to ask and actually know the answer.
I do at least seem to be dropping back out of the 180s, so I'm more on track than I was, but still significantly up from when my running got cut off. Boyfriend has a travel schedule that looks like mine used to, so maybe there will be fewer date night meals coming up, which although sad, does make it more likely for me to be a good kid.0 -
so anyway, I wanted somewhere to put this out into the world and this thread seems the most appropriate!!!
last night I successfully added eggs to a warm liquid recipe and THEY DIDN'T CURDLE!!!
After a roast chicken on Sunday I stuck the carcass in a slow cooker to make stock, then made a greek lemon chicken soup with it from my Soup for Everyday recipe book.
a couple of poached chicken breasts, 2 litres of chicken stock, 125grams of long grain rice, then add a couple of lemons, then three beaten eggs slowly mixed in.
I think I might have gone very slightly overboard on the lemon, but actually it tasted deliciously fresh, and probably didn't also need the hunk of bread with it.
more for lunch today so will see how it fares when reheated.
Definitely turned into soup season here - anyone else have any great soup recipes?
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@girlinahat that sounds good! I don't think you can get too much lemon on anything
@RunRachelleRun shared a mulligatawny recipe with me this week. It's probably our new favorite soup. I tweeted it a bit with rice, quinoa, cinnamon and coconut milk. Was super.0
