Cathartic Thread For Injured Runners, er support for managing injuries. ;-)

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  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Haha! Absolutely! Hope that thumb feels better soon! I hate tendonitis.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Well.

    Chronically torn hip labrum is grumpy. Yesterday the surgeon's office wanted me to get another arthrogram. I asked to put it off in case this works out on its own. Could happen right?

    I'm giving it a week, or so. Then.. back to square ein, i suppose, for me, once again. Good i didnt cancel that almost expired Y membership yet, anyone remember my locker combination?

    Today's my long 1of 2 weekend long runs. 5-6 miles will probably trash that hip. Long weekend means i could have started this month of with 3 good longer runs.... Well, we'll keep our fingers cross until the hip says otherwise.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited September 2018
    I wasn't pleased with my last visit to the hip center, with the p.a., . They are great, but i felt unheard. So I requested my medical records. I didnt get but the last year but it may provide some additional information as to what may be going on.

    I have an appointment with the surgeon in January. The receptionist claims this is a separate issue and i need a new arthrogram before the visit. Of course, since it so far off, i chose to wait it out a bit.

    My hip, hamstring, knee, foot hurts (all right). Of course i need to hear from the doc that this is because of x and i shouldn't just go pulling ailments from my MRI and thinking its the cause.

    So for now, I'm going to hold back and focus on not trying to push through that pain. Or Maybe i will. Maybe my muscles will adjust and get stronger before January and I'll be ready to run.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    I am worried about the twinge in my ankle. I will still do my trail long run tomorrow because let's be honest there's a lot of walking and power hiking in a trail run rather than straight running.

    I kind of feel like I've turned into some sort of tendinitis-monster given how my wrist feels these days...
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    @Elise4270 I'm sorry you're having pain. I hope you can get to the bottom of it!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Thanks @sarahthes . I think tendonitis comes with building endurance, least for me it has been. I constantly fight it in my feet.

    Ankle can be a few different things. I think common problems are subluxed cuboid, and the peroneal tendon. Hopefully its something you can identify and treat yourself.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    Google says it's maybe the peroneal tendon but also that it's probably pretty minor since the pain level is low and there's no swelling so I'm just going to not run today - my next run after today is Tuesday so that's 5 days of rest. Hopefully that will keep it from turning into something major.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    Second physio session today which involved lots of massage and ultrasound of my ankle, plus she taped it up for me. I'm going to try a short walk today.

    I've also got a bunch of exercises and stretches which I've been doing. Work shoes hurt my foot so I've been wearing retired stability running shoes and only changing into my work shoe when I go into the actual lab.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    Y'know, physio massage isn't relaxing at all. and yet she leaves no bruises that I can see... maybe they're hidden behind the tape.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    Y'know, physio massage isn't relaxing at all. and yet she leaves no bruises that I can see... maybe they're hidden behind the tape.

    Probably! I had bruises. But its a necessary evil of rehab sometimes.

    I have had one PT that puts me to sleep. I have to sit in my car for a few minutes just to get back to reality. She did massage, trigger point therapy, hot packs in one area, cold in another and the ultrasound therapy.. i was jello.

    Of course the other one at Baylor, never let me enjoy it. Always "oh that hurts" ... Kittens.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    Yeah, the tape got pretty gross overnight so I took it off. My husband looked at my ankle and confirmed it's a giant bruise! Hurts worse today than yesterday but I expect that's normal. I've been doing all my exercises.

    I ordered some tape of my own (purple!) and I'm going to ask her to show me how to put it on at my Tuesday appointment.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    Ran yesterday (sort of). Honestly the run intervals felt better than the walk intervals.
  • fitoverfortymom
    fitoverfortymom Posts: 3,452 Member
    edited October 2018
    Sigh. So here I am. I've had a bothersome hip for a while, but always worked through it. It has especially flared up lately and I took a spill at a trail race a few weeks ago that prompted me to see an ortho specialist. The Xray first had him thinking stress fracture and sent me for an MRI. MRI showed no stress fracture, but the voice mail he left he said FAI.

    Of course I Googled.

    Welp. There is some non-surgical hope to treat FAI. I'm not sure if I also have a labral tear. My understanding is you need MRI w/ contrast to see that, but I'm still going to ask. If I do have surgery, it's AT LEAST 3-4 months of no running. 3-4 MONTHS!!!!

    UGGGGGGG. I am so frustrated. It doesn't even hurt to run (hurts like the dickens after but that's not the point!).
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Sigh. So here I am. I've had a bothersome hip for a while, but always worked through it. It has especially flared up lately and I took a spill at a trail race a few weeks ago that prompted me to see an ortho specialist. The Xray first had him thinking stress fracture and sent me for an MRI. MRI showed no stress fracture, but the voice mail he left he said FAI.

    Of course I Googled.

    Welp. There is some non-surgical hope to treat FAI. I'm not sure if I also have a labral tear. My understanding is you need MRI w/ contrast to see that, but I'm still going to ask. If I do have surgery, it's AT LEAST 3-4 months of no running. 3-4 MONTHS!!!!

    UGGGGGGG. I am so frustrated. It doesn't even hurt to run (hurts like the dickens after but that's not the point!).

    Sounds like you have a lot to consider with your doctor. If pain is manageable, sometimes surgery isn't recommend, or you can put it off a while. PT would probably be the next step. Hopefully that'd keep you running!

    I have a hip labral tear and it will probably be a surgical fix in 2019, although I haven't accepted that a a reality yet, still waiting for it to be better anyday now. Icing after a run might help some too.

    Definitely stay off Google! Haha!

  • fitoverfortymom
    fitoverfortymom Posts: 3,452 Member
    edited October 2018
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Sigh. So here I am. I've had a bothersome hip for a while, but always worked through it. It has especially flared up lately and I took a spill at a trail race a few weeks ago that prompted me to see an ortho specialist. The Xray first had him thinking stress fracture and sent me for an MRI. MRI showed no stress fracture, but the voice mail he left he said FAI.

    Of course I Googled.

    Welp. There is some non-surgical hope to treat FAI. I'm not sure if I also have a labral tear. My understanding is you need MRI w/ contrast to see that, but I'm still going to ask. If I do have surgery, it's AT LEAST 3-4 months of no running. 3-4 MONTHS!!!!

    UGGGGGGG. I am so frustrated. It doesn't even hurt to run (hurts like the dickens after but that's not the point!).

    Sounds like you have a lot to consider with your doctor. If pain is manageable, sometimes surgery isn't recommend, or you can put it off a while. PT would probably be the next step. Hopefully that'd keep you running!

    I have a hip labral tear and it will probably be a surgical fix in 2019, although I haven't accepted that a a reality yet, still waiting for it to be better anyday now. Icing after a run might help some too.

    Definitely stay off Google! Haha!

    I'll definitely use PT to tide me by until 2019 because hubby is about to change jobs and our insurance will change. I'd rather hit the out of pocket maximum early in the year rather than the end of 2018 and not be able to take advantage of what will essentially be "free" healthcare. I'm not surgery averse, and honestly, after reading what I have about FAI, I'm not shocked at all. I've always had inflexible hips and the inability to do a full, deep squat. Even kneeling at church was painful growing up. I wasn't overweight as a kid, but rather was extremely active as a soccer player through high school.

    I have read some about outcomes for the arthroscopic vs. full surgical approaches and found an interesting read about if you have accompanying back pain, outcomes are better NOT going arthroscopic. That was just one article, though and I am probably way, way ahead of myself.

    I don't necessarily have pain while I run--but I can see how some of my cross training activities would have aggravated it since it's full of squats and lunges!

    See...this is why I shouldn't Google...
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    Huge hugs @fitoverfortymom. Injuries are so frustrating. And definitely stay away from Google. My physiotherapist is way less concerned about my ankle than Google is!
  • fitoverfortymom
    fitoverfortymom Posts: 3,452 Member
    I start PT tomorrow and I've at least gone for some brisk walks, did a spin bike thing (no standing for the climbs, though) and some core work. Feeling better each day, so not running is helping. I terested to see what the PT will allow in terms of exercise and reintroduction of running.
  • fitoverfortymom
    fitoverfortymom Posts: 3,452 Member
    First PT appt in the books. Interestingly enough, my son is also in PT and we're seeing the same person. I have a host of exercises, but by far my favorite is the "squeeze your glutes whenever you can remember to squeeze your glutes." My PT laughed when I equated it to, "It's basically doing kegels for the *kitten*."

    Evidently I have little to no glute activation (I had never actually felt glute activation on my left side until today). I'm a little tender and sore, but I trust this dude (he's good with hips AND a runner and totally gets why I'm mega bummed about not running at the moment).

    I can keep cycling though, so hopefully hubby will pull thru with the spin bike I want for my birthday instead of schlepping over to the YMCA.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    @fitoverfortymom I just caught myself doing that today. LOL.

    2 new kinds of eccentric calf raises today from my PT. She's mean; they're hard.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    So tonight's run hurt.

    Good news is based on my Garmin data I can easily pinpoint when I kind of lost the plot a bit and use that as a guideline going forward!

    Clearly between lap 12 & 14 my ankle was done (odd splits are walking, even splits are running, and I called it done early because I was done).
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  • fitoverfortymom
    fitoverfortymom Posts: 3,452 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    @fitoverfortymom I just caught myself doing that today. LOL.

    2 new kinds of eccentric calf raises today from my PT. She's mean; they're hard.

    Lol. She's a crazy calf lady.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    @fitoverfortymom Hahaha totally.

    My ankle didn't like last night's run, which means it was too long so I adjust distance downward before tomorrow's run. Good data from my Garmin last night means I should be able to figure out a good distance.

    It hurt when I woke up but right now there's only minor twinges. Will do all my physio exercises followed by all my physio stretches right after work, then ice it and use the prescription strength diclo cream before bed.
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    Ankle pain today is a fair bit lower than yesterday which makes me feel better about running tonight. It's almost more a sensation on the verge of pain instead of actual pain. Which is the fastest recovery from a run I've had yet. I didn't tape my ankle yesterday and I did today, so that might also be making a difference.

    Right calf hurts from all the eccentric one-legged squats and calf raises (and dips) though. LOL.
  • fitoverfortymom
    fitoverfortymom Posts: 3,452 Member
    I tried spinning at the gym and did an online core workout (I'm a big Les Mills fan and subscribe to Les Mills on Demand).

    One of those things triggered the FAI and I've been hurty for two days. Uggggggg.

    I haven't tried running, so once I'm done helping my sister move this weekend, I'm going to try a short run next week. PT today, so hopefully he'll rub out some of the hurt.

    Does anyone have their own TENS unit and find it helpful?
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    I tried spinning at the gym and did an online core workout (I'm a big Les Mills fan and subscribe to Les Mills on Demand).

    One of those things triggered the FAI and I've been hurty for two days. Uggggggg.

    I haven't tried running, so once I'm done helping my sister move this weekend, I'm going to try a short run next week. PT today, so hopefully he'll rub out some of the hurt.

    Does anyone have their own TENS unit and find it helpful?

    I hated the home tens unit. It felt like someone pulling my skin off. But the ones at PT were fine.

    Cycling is definitely less friendly to my hip, but i need to do it to keep my glutes awake.
  • fitoverfortymom
    fitoverfortymom Posts: 3,452 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    Cycling is definitely less friendly to my hip, but i need to do it to keep my glutes awake.

    This is totally where I am. I think it flared up my hip something fierce, but my glutes are lazy.

  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    Cycling is definitely less friendly to my hip, but i need to do it to keep my glutes awake.

    This is totally where I am. I think it flared up my hip something fierce, but my glutes are lazy.

    I need to make sure i bike once a week or my glutes forget to work all the time. I've been working on keeping them engaged throughout the day. It really nice to flex and feel how strong they are. Horrible when you can get anything out of them.

    I had a pt that told me to sit on my hands, just rest your finger tips under them and flex. I do that while I'm laying on the couch watching TV. It helps.
  • hanlonsk
    hanlonsk Posts: 762 Member
    So, I’m not quite back to existing in forums, but I’m occasionally back to the reading/stalking phase... so...
    Where in Wyoming are you moving your sister to? @fitoverfortymom
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    Ankle has felt pretty good the past couple of days. I think I will go up to 8 intervals and hold there for the rest of the week, then increase again on Sunday. My ankle doesn't really hurt most days - mostly just that I'm hyper aware of it and there's a sensation of tightness or maybe a 1/10 on the pain scale.
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    I suspect I'll be active in this thread again, unfortunately. Dangit!!! Training was going so well. My IT band, which was the reason for being here before, was never an issue during my race Saturday.

    In all likelyhood I'll be having foot surgery very soon to reattached my toe's extensor tendon. I have no idea how long that will take me out of running. When I can run again, I'm sure I'll be restricted for distance.

    I'll have to join a local fitness center and find something else to do for exercise now. Who knows, maybe this will finally get me to do more cross training.

    poop.