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bmeadows380 wrote: »AlexandraFindsHerself1971 wrote: »I am at the point where I need to do a solid mapbuilding and some family trees for the novel in my head. I need to run the trees back about six generations too, because ultimately everyone's related in the nobility, and it MATTERS.
@AlexandraFindsHerself1971
It absolutely matters!
And my problem is I've got the Fay and then I have mortal races, but my Fay have been completely monopolizing the conversation with their history (especially my Unseely King who turns out not to be so Unseely (well, depending on whether you consider Unseely to be evil or Unseely to mean unblessed in that he's had a LOT of very terrible things happen to the poor guy)). My Unseely King has went from being a second hand bad guy evil neutral type to one of the chief primary characters in the story world I have, and has gone from being a bad guy to a tragic good guy almost anti-hero type (and the anti-hero bit keeps sliding the more he lets out.....) And then there's his kids, his grandkids, his in-laws, King Oberon of the Seely Court and all HIS relations, the other courts (and I STILL need 4 more courts to round out the 12 that is supposed to be in the Fay Alliance!)
Then there's the mortal races which I really need to get a good solid grip on the timelines for, figure out how fay time and mortal time relate to each other since they aren't synced one to one, or at least, go in and out of being synced, and figure out how to get the dwarves broken completely free from Tolkien's dwarves, and keep the elves from going too far into being Kryn elves, and convince Raistlin that he has to change his name, and get the Erlking story and how it relates to Queen Mab (who, after finding out her background, I realized wouldn't talk to me for reason that she's completely diabolically evil-step-mother-queen-in-snow-white evil and is masquerading as being a good person on the alliance, no less), then there's the dragon story line, the vampire storyline, how this all relates back to the secret north king, and figuring out how to get the original bad guy back into prominence because he's taken a backseat lately to other characters we've created, but he has such a primary roll in the primordial ancient history that there's no way he's just sitting on the sidelines in the modern time.......
And finishing out the original pantheon and what happened to those guys because they aren't in the picture anymore; the bets friend is waiting impatiently on that because the kingdom she is formulating needs that information, not to mention the stinkin' map!
This is part of the reason my fantasy world just has humans. (grin) That's not to say they don't believe in magic, they do. And in ghosts and things that go bump in the night. But it's not a proper system with a court wizard and all that. And where I have stuff happen that's not quite ordinary, there's always a scientific explanation of it. I leave it up to the reader to decide if the saint has temporal lobe epilepsy or is actually touched by God. (Or is just performing for attention, which is what her sister thinks.)1 -
AlexandraFindsHerself1971 wrote: »bmeadows380 wrote: »AlexandraFindsHerself1971 wrote: »I am at the point where I need to do a solid mapbuilding and some family trees for the novel in my head. I need to run the trees back about six generations too, because ultimately everyone's related in the nobility, and it MATTERS.
@AlexandraFindsHerself1971
It absolutely matters!
And my problem is I've got the Fay and then I have mortal races, but my Fay have been completely monopolizing the conversation with their history (especially my Unseely King who turns out not to be so Unseely (well, depending on whether you consider Unseely to be evil or Unseely to mean unblessed in that he's had a LOT of very terrible things happen to the poor guy)). My Unseely King has went from being a second hand bad guy evil neutral type to one of the chief primary characters in the story world I have, and has gone from being a bad guy to a tragic good guy almost anti-hero type (and the anti-hero bit keeps sliding the more he lets out.....) And then there's his kids, his grandkids, his in-laws, King Oberon of the Seely Court and all HIS relations, the other courts (and I STILL need 4 more courts to round out the 12 that is supposed to be in the Fay Alliance!)
Then there's the mortal races which I really need to get a good solid grip on the timelines for, figure out how fay time and mortal time relate to each other since they aren't synced one to one, or at least, go in and out of being synced, and figure out how to get the dwarves broken completely free from Tolkien's dwarves, and keep the elves from going too far into being Kryn elves, and convince Raistlin that he has to change his name, and get the Erlking story and how it relates to Queen Mab (who, after finding out her background, I realized wouldn't talk to me for reason that she's completely diabolically evil-step-mother-queen-in-snow-white evil and is masquerading as being a good person on the alliance, no less), then there's the dragon story line, the vampire storyline, how this all relates back to the secret north king, and figuring out how to get the original bad guy back into prominence because he's taken a backseat lately to other characters we've created, but he has such a primary roll in the primordial ancient history that there's no way he's just sitting on the sidelines in the modern time.......
And finishing out the original pantheon and what happened to those guys because they aren't in the picture anymore; the bets friend is waiting impatiently on that because the kingdom she is formulating needs that information, not to mention the stinkin' map!
This is part of the reason my fantasy world just has humans. (grin) That's not to say they don't believe in magic, they do. And in ghosts and things that go bump in the night. But it's not a proper system with a court wizard and all that. And where I have stuff happen that's not quite ordinary, there's always a scientific explanation of it. I leave it up to the reader to decide if the saint has temporal lobe epilepsy or is actually touched by God. (Or is just performing for attention, which is what her sister thinks.)
I love playing with other races, and in my world, there's definitely genuine magic and a system of powers though I don't have court wizards and that sort. I do have a clerical system. In my world, its set up where the Christian God created this other world (like Lewis did with Narnia) and created these powerful beings and granted them great control over nature, but they fell from their original state and introduced chaos into the world. They get worshiped as "gods" but they are really just forms of angels who has usurped authority that is not theirs.
Figuring out how the races all interplay can be fun; one thing I need to get a handle on, other than my map and refining the timeline, is what the population demographics would look like if you've got a world with more than just humans - if there are 6 or 7 other races involved, how does that affect the population levels of the kingdoms? That's where I need to research the population levels of say Europe in the 1700's and probably the colonies as well. Humans, the little breeding bunnies that we are, obviously out-populate everyone else, but when it comes to setting up campaigns and wars, I still need a rough idea as to how many troops each kingdom can reasonably send and what size territory each really needs.
I have no problem whatsoever using the Dues ex Machina concept, either - except unlike Tolkien, I don't have giant eagles swooping in to save the day lol. I rather enjoy taking characters to the absolute brink, where they've done all they can and still are failing in the end, the bad guy is winning and everything looks hopeless, and then there's a sudden ray of light and the winds of fortune change, and the good guys manage to win the day after all. I like really powerful bad guys in a story - the better the bad guy, the better the good guys have to be in order to beat the guy.conniewilkins56 wrote: »I now think I am in the Twilight Zone!
@conniewilkins56
*laughs*
See? And you thought I was a relatively normal person! Now you get a glimpse of what my head space looks like, and that's sadly just the tip of the iceberg lol Its gets worse when these characters living in my head make comments on my daily routine (even worse when its the best friend's characters making comments - shut up, Currin) and absolutely refuse to cooperate when it comes to the story world and wants to drop little bombshells on me now and then. Oh, and then there was last week, when this one particular story line coalesced in my mind which led to the unexpected death of a newer character - one that wasn't very fleshed out, was fairly new, a background sort of character but who died a noble death to save everyone else.....the fallout of that little bit of story line was completely unexpected, let me tell you! From the way they acted, you'd think I'd killed off the main character or something!
*sigh* I really wish there were good paying jobs where I could get paid to live in my story world, but alas, breaking into the fiction writing market isn't easy, especially when you can't get a plot line, the competition is steep, and being a video game developer is also a stiff market with few opportunities.......2 -
Today was running errands day....I usually eat a string cheese or an English muffin if I have a lot to do in the mornings but I forgot to this morning....( I know, how can you forget to eat ? LoL ).... I went to the bank, drug store, produce market, Walmart, and Publix....came home starving and tired and cranky...threw a Lean Cusine in the micro wave and put groceries away that the grand kids carried in for me...( kids can occasionally be helpful )...ate lunch and got stuff out for dinner....John had folded clothes and made the bed so my other chores are finished!...no swimming today so I am going to take a well earned nap!0
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Tomorrow is my errands day. But the weather isn't cooperative today, and I think I am just going to put the chicken in the oven on low so that it will be warm by dinner, and go have a two hour nap.1
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I have not had a productive week. The steroids have impacted my sleep and made me feel warmer than normal outside. I have been dragging. I just finished mowing the yard today which is 2 days later than normal. My back is sore. I am still itchy. My study is cluttered because I have lacked the verve to do anything about it. This should be in the whine thread.
On a good note I haven't used verve in a sentence in a long time so there's that.
I may bail early on our charity food drive tomorrow if they have an abundance of volunteers. They are calling for rain though so that might impact how many people show up. Figures. Send me in coach... I don't mind getting wet.2 -
today was better, even if I was slow getting started. I headed to town to get some more propane for the camping trip since our local Walmart hasn't had any all summer and the local Lowe's was out, but the hardware store the town over had some. I didn't get left until noon, then stopped at the grocery store for some items that Walmart didn't have yesterday, hit McDonald's for a coffee and a happy meal for lunch and a cookie (though as usual, they gave me two when I really only wanted one and guess what - I ate the other cause I couldn't just let it alone.......*sigh*)
Came home and put some things away, but finally, finally at 3 pm, I got myself moving. I cleaned up the yard and filled a garbage bag with things needing tossed (and cleaned up the litter at the head of my driveway - whatever happened to all the drive against littering? It's gotten absolutely horrible around here these days!). I got the rain barrel tipped and emptied so we can figure out what's stopping up the spout and the water hose rolled up. I also got all my flower bulbs in the ground, and two of my three garden boxes covered - the other still has parsnips in it which are better if I wait later in the fall to early winter to pull.
The bulbs in the ground took a good hour or more - I had to use a mattock to dig the trenches and holes, so I figured I got plenty of exercise in! Then I came in the house and actually got the vacuuming done, the house all swiffered wet jetted (my entire house is solid floor no carpet, so every room has to be mopped) and the bathroom cleaned, the dishes washed, and the butternut lasagna put together for tomorrow so that all I have to do is put it in the oven tomorrow and set the delayed time to have it ready when I get home from church.
I also made bread pudding for dessert tomorrow and all I have left to do is make the vanilla sauce for it which I might do tomorrow morning since I went ahead and prepped the lasagna.]
So today was actually productive for me - first day all week!4 -
He had a hard morning and went back to bed, but after lunch we went out and looked at engagement rings. That was....nice, fun, but as this is a second marriage for us both we have some memories and feelings coming up and stuff. So just simple pizza for us girls and leftover enchiladas for him (he was NOT complaining) and some quiet gaming to settle down.2
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John was feeling pretty good this morning so he suggested we get an early lunch at Ruby Tuesday’s....enjoyed our lunch and I had a glass of wine on an empty stomach!....I am a very cheap drunk!....but it was nice to relax and not have a zillion interruptions or the dog begging while we ate lunch!....stopped at Publix on the way home and got some batteries for the scales....I couldn’t get weighed because the scales were dead....I think I would have reached my lowest weight this morning so I hope it holds until tomorrow......today I am not swimming and I plan on enjoying lots of football...chef salads for dinner or refried beans on tostados!0
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Down 31 pounds today as this last 8 week cycle comes to a close! Excited to start the next cycle and keep the momentum going.2
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bad day. Very bad day. I actually ate double of what my maintenance should be, thanks to having a bread pudding in the fridge and the power going out this morning. It was my day to cook but the power outage was an extended one so we went out to Bob Evans. I tried to behave myself, but still had 2 dinner rolls and was just hungry throughout the day. Sadly, I might of still made it to at least maintenance until that stupid bread pudding caught my eye.
*sigh* and the scale was up again this morning; gain is up to 7 lbs now.
I so need this vacation and I so very badly need a new job.......3 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »bad day. Very bad day. I actually ate double of what my maintenance should be, thanks to having a bread pudding in the fridge and the power going out this morning. It was my day to cook but the power outage was an extended one so we went out to Bob Evans. I tried to behave myself, but still had 2 dinner rolls and was just hungry throughout the day. Sadly, I might of still made it to at least maintenance until that stupid bread pudding caught my eye.
*sigh* and the scale was up again this morning; gain is up to 7 lbs now.
I so need this vacation and I so very badly need a new job.......
Saaaame. I was also over maintenance today. We were browsing the Halloween section at target, and i always assume my willpower is stronger than it is. "Oh, we can get this candy/these cookies and I'll slowly eat them over a few weeks like a normal person..."
No. No i won't. I'll shovel them into my mouth until they are gone. Darn fancy M&Ms that i just had to try, and only came in a big bag... (they were okay, would rather have had your bread pudding though lol)
I hope your vacation goes well and lets you take the mental break you need. Being stuck in an unhappy job is mentally and physically exhausting. I'm looking forward to hearing about your hikes!1 -
I'm so very grateful that I have the fructose intolerance. I miss being able to eat fruit terribly, but it means when I look at a bag of candy like that, I know that unless I eat about 1/8 cup of those M&M's at a time, and space about four hours between those portions, I'll be nauseated and have a headache and have my face flush and mind fog up. After about thirty years of having this happen when you eat sweets, they lose some of their appeal.
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bmeadows380 wrote: »bad day. Very bad day. I actually ate double of what my maintenance should be, thanks to having a bread pudding in the fridge and the power going out this morning. It was my day to cook but the power outage was an extended one so we went out to Bob Evans. I tried to behave myself, but still had 2 dinner rolls and was just hungry throughout the day. Sadly, I might of still made it to at least maintenance until that stupid bread pudding caught my eye.
*sigh* and the scale was up again this morning; gain is up to 7 lbs now.
I so need this vacation and I so very badly need a new job.......
Saaaame. I was also over maintenance today. We were browsing the Halloween section at target, and i always assume my willpower is stronger than it is. "Oh, we can get this candy/these cookies and I'll slowly eat them over a few weeks like a normal person..."
No. No i won't. I'll shovel them into my mouth until they are gone. Darn fancy M&Ms that i just had to try, and only came in a big bag... (they were okay, would rather have had your bread pudding though lol)
I hope your vacation goes well and lets you take the mental break you need. Being stuck in an unhappy job is mentally and physically exhausting. I'm looking forward to hearing about your hikes!
I bought a bag of sugar free chocolate chips, thinking I'd use them sparingly. *sigh* nope; after using 2 servings in pancakes that morning, and putting about 4 servings in that bread pudding, I wiped the rest out.
The other half of that bread pudding is still here; definitely need to get it out of the house!2 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »bad day. Very bad day. I actually ate double of what my maintenance should be, thanks to having a bread pudding in the fridge and the power going out this morning. It was my day to cook but the power outage was an extended one so we went out to Bob Evans. I tried to behave myself, but still had 2 dinner rolls and was just hungry throughout the day. Sadly, I might of still made it to at least maintenance until that stupid bread pudding caught my eye.
*sigh* and the scale was up again this morning; gain is up to 7 lbs now.
I so need this vacation and I so very badly need a new job.......
When I was in my "hurry up" weight loss for the surgery last year I was fairly miserably for most of 3 months. During that time I quickly realized that my ability to moderate myself is partially contingent on not being miserable. Before that 3 month period I probably ate a half serving of potato chips at some point during the day 5 days a week with no problems. During that 3 months, on 2 occasions, I ate nearly the entire 1500ish calorie bag.
Since I had no choice but to keep going I did the only thing I trusted. I stopped having potato chips in the house.
I strongly suggest that you limit how much highly desirable calorie dense food you keep in your house right now. Expecting yourself to pass the test each time you are tempted is asking for trouble. Avoidance is a better policy with temptation.
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bmeadows380 wrote: »bad day. Very bad day. I actually ate double of what my maintenance should be, thanks to having a bread pudding in the fridge and the power going out this morning. It was my day to cook but the power outage was an extended one so we went out to Bob Evans. I tried to behave myself, but still had 2 dinner rolls and was just hungry throughout the day. Sadly, I might of still made it to at least maintenance until that stupid bread pudding caught my eye.
*sigh* and the scale was up again this morning; gain is up to 7 lbs now.
I so need this vacation and I so very badly need a new job.......
When I was in my "hurry up" weight loss for the surgery last year I was fairly miserably for most of 3 months. During that time I quickly realized that my ability to moderate myself is partially contingent on not being miserable. Before that 3 month period I probably ate a half serving of potato chips at some point during the day 5 days a week with no problems. During that 3 months, on 2 occasions, I ate nearly the entire 1500ish calorie bag.
Since I had no choice but to keep going I did the only thing I trusted. I stopped having potato chips in the house.
I strongly suggest that you limit how much highly desirable calorie dense food you keep in your house right now. Expecting yourself to pass the test each time you are tempted is asking for trouble. Avoidance is a better policy with temptation.
oh I definitely have been limiting myself on calorie dense food stuff - very rarely do I allow chips, candy, crackers, or anything small and dense into my house. The bread pudding had been made for Sunday afternoon dinner and wouldn't have been a problem if we had actually eaten Sunday afternoon dinner at my house - I would have had the one slice I had allotted for myself and sent the rest home with mom. Except we didn't have dinner at my house because of the power outage.
My mistake was in not taking it to mom's yesterday morning when I realized we were going out to eat instead of eating at my house.
Another bigger problem is that if I don't have snack foods, I'll find myself using regular foods to compensate. Slice of bread, peanut butter, can of beans - when i want to eat, I want to eat. I've even caught myself eating dry oatmeal! I can't have no food in the house at all, though.
the bread pudding is now gone, not, however, before I managed to polish off half of a 9/13 pan by myself *winces*. I had the family over for dinner tonight and made sure they finished it off. I still ended up with a smaller piece that I did count, but while that puts me at maintenance tonight, I'm not over, at least. Now the key is to get to bed before the drive to snack puts me over that as well.1 -
My long weekend is over. I ate all the food and had a wonderful time. I didn’t count the calories and yes I went to Cinnabon. It was a much needed break. I was 25lbs from goal. Probably not anymore but it was what I needed both mentally and physically. Time to get back to it! Thank you to everyone that has reached out to me through this time. I am taking it one day at a time.
I also haven’t had a cigarette 17 days6 -
17 days! You are almost out of the thickest of it. You've done this before so you know, for most people the worst cravings come during the first month or so. And craving for nicotine is multiplied by a bad mental state, with our brain wishing badly for anything to compensate. Given the objective situation you are in, the fact that you managed this cold turkey so far is not only admirable but god damn inspiring!!
Good job!
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My long weekend is over. I ate all the food and had a wonderful time. I didn’t count the calories and yes I went to Cinnabon. It was a much needed break. I was 25lbs from goal. Probably not anymore but it was what I needed both mentally and physically. Time to get back to it! Thank you to everyone that has reached out to me through this time. I am taking it one day at a time.
I also haven’t had a cigarette 17 days
Remember to tell yourself you are a not a smoker. It is a stronger more affirmative mindset than thinking of yourself as a person who is trying to quit.2 -
I was having car trouble again (4th time in less than 3 months 😖) and had an appointment to get it into the shop today. The shop is a little over two miles from my house and the weather is nice, so after dropping the car off, I declined their offer to call me a ride and walked home. When it was ready to pick up this afternoon, I walked back and got it. That was 80 minutes of exercise "built in" to my day.
Then my mom texted to tell me she's coming to visit this weekend, and that she has a Cheesecake Factory gift card and wants to use it. Nooooo! I'm going to be hard pressed to find something that fits my calories, and I'm afraid she'll talk me into getting cheesecake (wouldn't take much persuading, I love cheesecake), and that DEFINITELY won't fit my calories. So I may have a real rubber-meets-the-road test of my planning and willpower.1 -
I was having car trouble again (4th time in less than 3 months 😖) and had an appointment to get it into the shop today. The shop is a little over two miles from my house and the weather is nice, so after dropping the car off, I declined their offer to call me a ride and walked home. When it was ready to pick up this afternoon, I walked back and got it. That was 80 minutes of exercise "built in" to my day.
Then my mom texted to tell me she's coming to visit this weekend, and that she has a Cheesecake Factory gift card and wants to use it. Nooooo! I'm going to be hard pressed to find something that fits my calories, and I'm afraid she'll talk me into getting cheesecake (wouldn't take much persuading, I love cheesecake), and that DEFINITELY won't fit my calories. So I may have a real rubber-meets-the-road test of my planning and willpower.
Portion control is your friend. Look up how big the portions are, and work out what size of that portion fits your calories. Sometimes I just get an appetizer and eat that, because that's enough food for me. Look for sides of steamed vegetables, and get salad dressing on the side; you can dip a fork in and get a little dressing with each bite.
Box up the rest, before you start eating. (I order the box when I order the food, with a smile: "I know I won't be able to eat the whole thing, so just bring me a take-home box when you bring the plate, please.") You can also do that with a cheesecake, or say to your mom, "I will just have one bite of yours to enjoy the flavor," and count on her to keep your fork out of it. (I can do that with my family, anyway)
This isn't a terrible panic situation. You can handle it and still have fun.
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@AlexandraFindsHerself1971 thanks for the reminder that I do NOT have to eat the entire portion. I've been looking at the nutrition facts and freaking out over 1,000 calories per entree and completely ignoring the fact that I can take half of it home.2
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@amart4224 This weekend is a few days away so there's plenty of time to pre-plan and figure out what feels comfortable for you! For me, pre-planning and pre-logging takes a lot of the pressure off and helps me just enjoy the experience.
I've taken people up on Cheesecake Factory takeout a couple of times over the last 6 months and it's totally doable. The biggest benefit of chain restaurants is the easily available nutrition facts. Cheesecake Factory has a large, calorie-friendly menu available, too. I actually really love the turkey and avocado sandwich and it clocks in at 540 calories and the steak medallions are alright and they're 440 calories. They also do lower cal cheesecake options which are about half the calories of their typical 1000+ cal slices. I haven't tried those but they could be a good option, especially if you eat half at the restaurant and bring half home as a treat for the next day.
Even with the whole slice, going for their lighter options can easily get you a full meal in less than 1100 cals, which is pretty good for a chain restaurant, especially when a slice of their cheesecake tends to be more than that by itself. Feel free to fuss around with your calories the rest of the week, too. I usually eat a little lighter for a day or two before meals that I know will be a little larger. Your body doesn't know when one day ends and another begins!2 -
@emmyjaykay all good suggestions, thank you! I think most of the reason why this scenario has me more freaked out than anything I've encountered so far is that my typical eating style is "grazing" on numerous low cal meals/snacks each day. So the idea of blowing over 1,000 cals on a single meal is foreign. But I WILL plan ahead and I WILL make this work with my goals and I WILL have a good time doing it!2
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Cheesecake Factory also has light entres’.....I would just order cheesecake and pass on the meal lol3
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@AlexandraFindsHerself1971 thanks for the reminder that I do NOT have to eat the entire portion. I've been looking at the nutrition facts and freaking out over 1,000 calories per entree and completely ignoring the fact that I can take half of it home.
That's one blessing for me in not being a volume eater: I will HAVE to take the rest home. There's no way I can stuff a full restaurant portion down without physical pain and nausea at this point. (I know people say your stomach doesn't shrink, but it sure gets cranky about expanding past a point that it's used to!) Sure, it's 1200 calories, but if you can only manage a third of it at a time, that's only 400 and very doable.
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I would also plan to “bank” some calories through the week. Eat a little under all week so that you have a little more to play with this weekend. I also try to up my exercise through the week which earns me some extra calories.
I am so glad there is not a Cheesecake Factory near me. I love their fried Mac and cheese balls smothered in marinara sauce. Just thinking about it makes my mouth water!3 -
Getting up this morning to see that the scale had dropped back down to 226.9 lbs from the 231.5 yesterday is a relief. I"m still not thrilled that my trend weight in HappyScale has increased from 220 lbs at the beginning of October to 229 lbs today. So much for trying to slide into maintenance and hold it there; I'll be spending November just trying to get back to where I was the first of October.
Meanwhile, while I might have groused that I was going to fast yesterday, I knew I wouldn't be able to do it. At least I did stay under my calorie count. This morning wasn't even an option - I woke up very hungry. My overnight steel cut oats with peaches and cinnamon were very, very good, especially on this cold morning!
I did stop at Walmart yesterday and picked up 4 sets of thermal undies along with a couple pair of socks with rubber on the bottom. Though the forecast looks better as the week goes on; its getting back up to the 60's for the daytime highs which was better than the 40's yesterday! and at least the wind has laid down.2 -
We went out and voted after Boyfriend's therapy appointment, and then came home and I have been sitting down and basically managing my anxiety all afternoon, and that's what I'll do all evening. I am unashamedly using food to do it, and not giving myself grief about it because tomorrow I'll be okay.2
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I've been repeating this to myself all day: you are not hungry, you are just bored. The cabin fever is hitting hard today. Spent an hour wandering around a bookstore just to get out of the house, and somehow still have hours to kill before bedtime....2
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I do not think I will be swimming much today as it is expected to rain....there is a storm in the Gulf of Mexico and will be nasty all week....so today I am taking a semi rest day and only doing things that have to be done....made the bed, picked up, dishwasher,cooking,etc....and of course the Bucs are on Sunday night NFL....1
