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  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    @papayahed
    *laughs* I get the power to your meter, but once it gets into your house, I can't give much advice there! But if you want to know why your lights may dim or blink, then I can answer that :)
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    Water weight is my whine for this morning. The stupid scale was up to 232.5 this morning, and I know its all water weight as that's a 3 lb gain from my all time low of 229.5 on Saturday morning. I know what did it - the extra heavy yard work and other work I've been doing the last 3 days. Everything feels a little swelled, the muscles are sore, so I know its all water weight and will drop. Its just rather irritating because its going to throw off my weekly weigh in record which I do on Thursday's and may even show a gain tomorrow instead of the real loss.

    OH well, while its irritating, its not the end of the world and I know the true loss will show up eventually.

    It also killed my trend. On Sunday, my trend weight in HappyScale dropped to 229.9, but since the last 2 days were above 231 lbs, the trend went back up. :frowning:
  • cesse47
    cesse47 Posts: 947 Member
    edited July 2020
    My whine is water as well. Last week was pretty sedentary since I'd somehow hurt myself and my hips and lower back were excruciating. And, my right shoulder and wrist also. Barely moved out of the recliner for most of the week ... except to go to the bathroom or kitchen LOL. Hurt to get up; hurt to sit down. Almost impossible to lay down comfortable. All daily routines, eating plan, drinking plan for water, exercise plan .... PFFFFTTTtttttt ... right out the window. Thrilled I did NOT gain any weight!

    However, even though I'm feeling much better this week, it's a struggle to get back into my various routines. And, drinking a 1/2 gallon+ of water is so very hard.

    OK, Suck it up Buttercup!! Get with the plan; kick your own butt 🥾 and get back to it!!
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    cesse47 wrote: »
    My whine is water as well. Last week was pretty sedentary since I'd somehow hurt myself and my hips and lower back were excruciating. And, my right shoulder and wrist also. Barely moved out of the recliner for most of the week ... except to go to the bathroom or kitchen LOL. Hurt to get up; hurt to sit down. Almost impossible to lay down comfortable. All daily routines, eating plan, drinking plan for water, exercise plan .... PFFFFTTTtttttt ... right out the window. Thrilled I did NOT gain any weight!

    However, even though I'm feeling much better this week, it's a struggle to get back into my various routines. And, drinking a gallon+ of water is so very hard.

    OK, Suck it up Buttercup!! Get with the plan; kick your own butt 🥾 and get back to it!!

    I am glad you are feeling better this week.

    Why are you drinking so much water?
  • cesse47
    cesse47 Posts: 947 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    cesse47 wrote: »
    However, even though I'm feeling much better this week, it's a struggle to get back into my various routines. And, drinking a gallon+ of water is so very hard.

    OK, Suck it up Buttercup!! Get with the plan; kick your own butt 🥾 and get back to it!!

    I am glad you are feeling better this week.

    Why are you drinking so much water?

    Sorry... I'm supposed to have a 1/2 symbol on my keyboard but it did not work ... so, I revised my original post to say 1/2 gal+.

    I'm trying to stay around 11 - 12 glasses per day because that seems to work best for me. It's just getting back there after blowing it off is tough.
  • jodibeth5744
    jodibeth5744 Posts: 65 Member
    My whine is always water weight...I have an autoimmune disease that causes me to retain water, especially around my joints. My ankles can go from normal to wear it feels like my skin wants to rip if I bend them in the span of an hour. I truly feel your pain, especially when it comes to the scale! I use happy scale too so that I can see the true downward trend through all my water ups and downs.
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    I am retaining water in this heat although I am in the pool covered in water!...I have been taking a doctor prescribed water pill twice a week but the I have to drink a ton of water to rehydrate!...you can’t win lol
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    cesse47 wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    cesse47 wrote: »
    However, even though I'm feeling much better this week, it's a struggle to get back into my various routines. And, drinking a gallon+ of water is so very hard.

    OK, Suck it up Buttercup!! Get with the plan; kick your own butt 🥾 and get back to it!!

    I am glad you are feeling better this week.

    Why are you drinking so much water?

    Sorry... I'm supposed to have a 1/2 symbol on my keyboard but it did not work ... so, I revised my original post to say 1/2 gal+.

    I'm trying to stay around 11 - 12 glasses per day because that seems to work best for me. It's just getting back there after blowing it off is tough.

    lol I am glad. Drinking a gallon of water sounds miserable and you know I don't like self-inflicted misery since I did it every time I tried to lose weight for 30 some odd years.
  • jodibeth5744
    jodibeth5744 Posts: 65 Member
    @conniewilkins56 and the doctors always say getting in the pool will redistribute the swelling! I guess not. Sorry you’re suffering with it.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    I bought some trout at costco and was forced to smoke it this morning or risk it going bad in the fridge. While this was a situation of my own making it is TOO HOT AND HUMID to be smoking fish right now.

    With the covid business I have not been able to find trout as often and it is my main source of fatty fish. So I needed to get it and it is easier and more flavorful to smoke it but hopefully by the time this runs out it will be past the worst of this hot and humid weather.

    I will say that this is the first real test of my relentlessness. I am SO not a hot weather person. I breezed through the covid lockdown but throw some hot and humid weather at me and I wilt. Luckily the heat also takes the edge of my hunger so I may not be moving as much (move calories down an average of 200 calories a day) it is not that hard to eat less.
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  • papayahed
    papayahed Posts: 407 Member
    Don't worry, tomorrow will be the day you say no to Hardees.
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  • cesse47
    cesse47 Posts: 947 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    I bought some trout at costco and was forced to smoke it this morning or risk it going bad in the fridge. While this was a situation of my own making it is TOO HOT AND HUMID to be smoking fish right now.

    Grew up fishing Michigan lakes and streams for trout ... tied with perch for my favorite. I almost never cook fish at home so decided this time I would have at least 1-2 fish meals each week. Luckily, our farmer's market has a vendor who is part of a 6 generation family of commercial fishers. They supply fresh caught fish from the Great Lakes. So, I go Sat and Wed mornings and pick up one Lake Trout and one Lake Perch. And, when they run, I get fresh caught smelt (just for one meal). I don't care for smoked fish (which they do supply). So, I lightly dredge in seasoned flour, shake off excess, and pan fry. Crispy trout skin is sooooo excellent. I remove the skin of Lake Perch because I think it's too thick and tough.
  • cesse47
    cesse47 Posts: 947 Member
    AlexandraFindsHerself1971 wrote: »
    It also helps to plan your meals and then only have that in the house. I would be eating cookies right now if we had any. We don't. (That's also why we don't have any cookies in the house, cause I know myself well.)

    I can't eat a heavy breakfast, but my boyfriend does. I make him a breakfast casserole that is high protein, low carb (he had WLS and can't do many carbs) and is filling and satisfying right through til lunch. I can post the recipe if anyone wants it. Me, I just have my toasted and buttered muffin and hot tea and I'm okay. Sometimes I need some yogurt around ten am to make it to lunch, though.

    What has been important to me is to tell myself that nothing is forbidden. I can have chips every day if I want. I could have ice cream every day if I wanted. And somehow knowing that I can makes it a lot easier to say, "Nah, I'd rather spend the calories on something else," and be at peace with that decision.

    I agree about eliminating foods that are detrimental to your eating plan. I finally had to stop buying Ritz crackers because they're like chips to me ... can't eat just one, just mow through the whole package.

    I would like your breakfast casserole recipe. I'm looking for ways to reduce carbs so it may really help.

  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    @TheLastMrBig

    In both daily life and spiritual life, recognizing you've got a problem, acknowledging it and accepting the responsibility for it an absolute necessity for getting to the point where you can start dealing with it and overcoming it; it sounds like you have hit that point and I congratulate you!

    Its hard to admit when we are wrong and where our flaws are, especially in this society that is so judgmental, so I'm glad you've gotten the courage to open up and found this group - I haven't seen any judgment here, which I greatly appreciate it; knowing that there are others who started at the same stage I did or even higher who understand what life is like for the morbidly obese and the unique struggles to lose massive amounts of weight is a godsend for me, as wel as having people who will listen to my whines about water weight and grumbles about the scales and who will talk me down from making huge mistakes out of kneejerk responses to the short term instead of looking forward to the long term :)

    You can do this - taking one day at a time!
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    TheLastMrBig wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    TheLastMrBig wrote: »
    I want to try jogging back and forth in the yard for two reasons

    1. To test and see how much stamina or lack thereof

    2. To burn more calories

    What I ate for breakfast was horrible and just unnecessary

    I did a 22-minute walk in the heat of the day... Just got done drinking a protein shake 30 minutes ago

    Now I'm trying to burn most of those calories I ate already off

    I woke up this morning late ...my BSL was 274. Then I took a quick insulin shot and glutted down three sausage biscuits with hash browns

    Idk why ... I wasn't even thinking of food until my mother said you got Hardee's in the microwave ...you don't want it?
    I gave her same look I gave her yesterday ...when she offered pancakes

    I said yes both times and paid price... I have an extremely unhealthy relationship with food

    Why did I eat so much? Was I hungry or starving? No

    Did I wake up with a depressed feeling? Yes because I slept in until 10 am and felt I slept my life away

    Back to being positive: I had a great conversation with God during my 20-minute walk ...

    No Pandora or YouTube ...Just me having a conversation with God

    We are building an awesome relationship

    @TheLastMrBig


    You need a morning ritual to start your day living an intentional life. It needs to be something you insert into your day right after something you do when you first wake up. It needs to set the tone for how you plan to live that day. It needs to be a promise you make yourself. Once you do it you will have "shown up" and that is extremely important.

    A personal mantra (said out loud) is probably a good place to start. Something like:

    I will choose to live a good and happy day.
    I will try to finish the day a slightly better person than I started.
    I will try to finish the day in slightly better health than I started.

    Add as you desire but do not make it too long.

    RIGHT AFTER do something easy and quick to get in your first win of the day. Some possibilities:

    1) Pre-log your food for the day
    2) Some stretches
    3) A stroll outside

    You might be surprised at how making a audible declaration of your intentions and then following it up with a quick win will help shape your day. Try it for a week. If it doesn't do much for you then you will have wasted a few minutes and you will know to try something else.




    Wow this post will change my life for greater as apply it right now to my life

    I am glad to see you very enthusiastic but I caution you on thinking that the first answer (other than God) will be YOUR answer. Even if it is helpful it could be part of your answer. It is important to manage your expectations because otherwise it could lead to a lot of yo-yoing and possibly giving up on things prematurely.

    Unhelpful food habits are well-established. Because of this we tend to eat things on auto-pilot. By choosing to live intentionally and trying to start your day in the right mindset and with an early win it is a step towards being in the moment more which leads to greater awareness and hopefully, over time, less auto pilot eating. Then, in time, hopefully the newer helpful food habits will gain ground and then even your auto-pilot will steer in you in a better direction more of the time. This is where I am now. It took most of my first year to get here. I still have some unhelpful tendencies but they are downsized in frequency to the point that now their impact is insignificant.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    edited July 2020
    @TheLastMrBig

    @bmeadows380 is correct. I try to set a tone of very little judgment here. I would like to think it is judgment free but that is unrealistic.

    One of my core strengths in life is that I am hard to rattle. In my life I have heard and witnessed some fairly unpleasant thing and it has had very little impact on me. The downside of this is that I am not good at lending emotional support. That is okay. There are plenty of people for that. I am the one you turn to when the house is on fire and you need someone thinking mostly clearly and calmly. I am the one that will always look past any unpleasantness and if a person needs help and I can provide it, I will.

    I would also guess that you might feel the need now to go and do more good in the world than you may have done harm by a factor of 4 or more. Getting healthier will definitely assist you in that endeavor. You have my support either way though.
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  • hansep0012
    hansep0012 Posts: 385 Member
    @TheLastMrBig

    I read your post and did not understand the word "catfishing". So I looked it up in the Urban Dictionary. Wow.

    That's it. Wow.


    Truth in lending: Folks, if you, like me, did not know the definition I would strongly encourage you to look it up.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    edited July 2020
    hansep0012 wrote: »
    @TheLastMrBig

    I read your post and did not understand the word "catfishing". So I looked it up in the Urban Dictionary. Wow.

    That's it. Wow.


    Truth in lending: Folks, if you, like me, did not know the definition I would strongly encourage you to look it up.

    I just learned the term myself this weekend. I knew what "ghosting" meant (my cousin just had that happen to her) but while I had heard the term "catfishing" I didn't know for sure what it was.

    But to be honest, I'm a very suspicious person and usually expect that sort of thing online anyway; my pessimistic self rarely trusts that the individual I'm talking to online is exactly who they say they are, whether it be in video games or somewhere else. I'm not into social media at all myself, so its rather ironic that I'm so mistrustful, but its probably just more my natural tendency to only believe half what what I see and maybe 1/4 of what I hear lol

    I can see where the temptation to do it would come from; I've often dreamed of what it would be like to be someone other than what I am and could see where the idea to assume one of those identities could be strong especially in a forum where it would be difficult to be exposed.

    @TheLastMrBig

    You have my sympathies, you really do, because I do understand the shame that comes with being big; there's a huge stigma out there whether you are male or female. But you are doing right by breaking from social media and trying to stop pretending to be someone else; the end result of being accepted for who you really are is lasting and brings much joy, unlike the fleeting happiness at having an alter-ego accepted when you know in the back of your mind that its all based on a lie. And just keep reminding yourself that God knows you more intimately than you even know yourself - He is fully aware of your dark desires, your secret sins, everything but accepts you even where you are now and loves you enough to desire to help you grow into the person you can become in the future. IT takes one step at a time and a determination to keep moving forward no matter how many times you slip up!

    I say that about weight loss - the only way to absolutely guarantee failure is to quit trying at all. As long as you are trying and keep trying, there is always hope for future victory!
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    I learned the term from TV some time ago.

    It also occurs to me that @TheLastMrBig could be someone playing this role for some reason. That doesn't really bother me either. The worst that happens is that I give advice that is helpful for someone else reading it. As I said I am not easy to rattle.

    Don't worry @TheLastMrBig I am not accusing you of anything. I will consider you "on the level" unless it is conclusively proven otherwise. I accept you at face value. You are imperfect. So am I.

    Are you seeing a therapist for any of this? If not, you probably should. There is no shame in building a toolbox to navigate these types of situations.
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    When I first discovered online chat rooms I became instantly addicted...I could be anyone I wanted to be...I made up my own person with a name,age,fake picture etc...I don’t think I am the only person that has ever done this...online you can say and pretend things that you would never really do...I didn’t really “ catfish “ anyone but I certainly lied a lot and played a lot of mind games with people....at the time I can only use the excuse that I thought this is what everyone was doing!...my lies eventually caught up with me and I got tired of being someone I really wasn’t...once I started being myself I made some dear friends and met a few offline...I have a very addictive personality and I missed a lot of real life being on the computer many hours of the day in fantasy land...real life is so much more meaningful and rewarding...in the end, the truth always comes out!...I will never get those hours back but I don’t think I need to be punished for it either!...It was just a phase of my life and a form of escape...
  • tempe987
    tempe987 Posts: 39 Member
    @conniewilkins56 You have perfectly described by early teen years. When AOL first came out I was who I thought everyone else wanted me to be! I finally made my friends in Band and Theater in my later years of high school. I have always been such an introvert that now as an adult I don't have more than a few friends and sometimes that makes me not feel great. My stepsister has so many friends and people she talks to every day and the amount of txt messages she gets when we are together it makes me anxious and tired and it's her keeping up with all of it, not me.
  • tempe987
    tempe987 Posts: 39 Member
    I am here to whine... I had a really *kitten* day (week so far TBH) I think a migraine might be coming on or my depression is working overtime. I know I am going to be over my calorie limit today ... and It will be even worse if I don't workout at all tonight. It is the night before my weekly check in and it frustrates me that I am consciously making the choice to eat what I want too even with all the bad it is going to bring with it. Its like I am fighting a battle in my head. I am choosing to not eat pasta ... I am cooking zoodles instead but still going to make alfredo sauce and eat some garlic bread.

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