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  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    I am "interviewing" new hiking shoes and I made the mistake of going for a 3 mile hike yesterday in one of the possible pairs. The results were definitely bad and my feet really hurt today. Over the years I have moved from 10 1/2 to 11 but I don't know if that was me or the brands. This pair was definitely just too large so I may try my old size in them.

    I ordered 6 pairs to try from Amazon Prime Wardrobe and 4 of them are already definite Nos.
  • Ccricfo
    Ccricfo Posts: 156 Member
    @novusdies I also have problems finding the right shoes. I finally found the Brooks "Beast" size 13 tennis shoe which has unbelievable ankle and arch support. That's all I wear now --- and as long as I replace them once a year, they do the job.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    I managed to get myself up before 6 AM this morning and get on a 6.6 mile walk in before church and the heat! It took longer than usual, though: the route I took went passed my grandparents' home, and as I walked past, my grandfather was coming out for his newspaper, so I stopped for a little bit to talk, then on the way back stopped for a little longer and went in to see Grandma because it had been quite some time since I had seen her as well. Then I ran into a couple that I am acquainted with from church who were also out walking and took some time to talk with them as it has been a while since I had seen them because of the shut down (my church is still closed). So lots of distractions! lol

    My shoes are still doing well for me, thank goodness, but I'll probably need to be looking into a new pair by fall. I have a pair of running shoes that I bought but I have found I don't like walking in them - they are too light and leave my feet hurting after long walks, unlike this pair of new balance cross trainers that I have on. Plus, I've tripped and fallen while wearing the running shoes - they seem to be too light! I had to use the first set of knee braces this morning as my others are packed in my jiu-jitsu bag, but they actually stayed put for once!

    so it's 9:30 and I have 12,000 steps in for the day :) Which is good, because that gives me some breathing room calorie wise for dinner today as we are having a cookout! I can earn some more calories too if I have mom take the push mower to the camp and mow around the camp while she's fixing the hamburgers. That means I can have extra smores for dessert lol

    I was well over deficit yesterday but it didn't show on the scale this morning; 2 days in a row of being over deficit and yet 2 days in a row of all time scale lows - go figure! And I barely had 1,000 steps in yesterday! But being over isn't bothering me that much this weekend; it was more circumstances and not so much being driven to eat by Hunger Brain.

    One thing I really noticed this weekend is that if I find myself over deficit, even by only a few calories, I end up fighting a battle with the brain who is thinking "well, you're already over anyhow, so what's a few more calories?" and by bed time, I'm usually adding to that by a couple hundred. In other words, once I go over, I have trouble stopping at being over by just a little bit; my brain seems to think that since I've already gone over, I might as well just eat what I want and start clean tomorrow. Interesting how even after being at this for 3 years, I'm still fighting thoughts like that!

    And now I need to get ready for church - while our church is still shut down, the pastor is still preaching from the pulpit and conducting the service as close to normal as he can for the radio and for facebook live, so I and the organist come in to play and he'll lead a few hymns and have me play a special and then have someone sing a special (usually either his wife, me, or the preacher or the regular song leader if they are there). It'll be all of 6 of us there, but with the daily rate going up in the state again especially in our area and because of the near miss our church had back in June, the pastor is being very cautious about opening back up the church, and I don't blame him at all!
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    Ccricfo wrote: »
    @novusdies I also have problems finding the right shoes. I finally found the Brooks "Beast" size 13 tennis shoe which has unbelievable ankle and arch support. That's all I wear now --- and as long as I replace them once a year, they do the job.

    LoL...I hope you wear more than “ just those shoes” when you are hiking!
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    Ccricfo wrote: »
    @novusdies I also have problems finding the right shoes. I finally found the Brooks "Beast" size 13 tennis shoe which has unbelievable ankle and arch support. That's all I wear now --- and as long as I replace them once a year, they do the job.

    Are those in a women's size 8? I ask because my sister has a time finding shoes to support her feet while she works as a cashier. She usually buys the cheap ones at Walmart because that's all she can afford, which don't help at all, so last year for Christmas, I bought her a pair of good ones from Amazon. She said they made a difference, and I know she'll be needing a new pair this year as well, so I might do the same thing for her this year. Ankle support is her trouble as well as fallen arches, so I'll have to look those up!
  • Ccricfo
    Ccricfo Posts: 156 Member
    My days of hiking nude are a distant memory.
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    Bmeadows how lucky you are to be blessed with your grandparents living and being close to you!...I was very close to my Ya-Ya ( my dads mom)... she was hit by a car in downtown Louisville, Ky when I was in my 20s...my moms mother lived to be almost 88 and was a spunky German farm woman...

    Enjoy your cook out and keep those S’ mores in check....I am glad I do not like marshmallows!...
  • papayahed
    papayahed Posts: 407 Member
    How timely. I just started hiking and I don't go to far or too treacherous but I've been looking at hiking shoes. I'm just unsure what to get so yesterday I bought trail runners. How do you guys feel about trail runners vs hiking shoes?

    I can still return them.
  • MuttiNM
    MuttiNM Posts: 240 Member
    @papayahed I just started getting back into hiking this year and got a pair of trail runners for hiking about a month ago. (I was sick of my everyday walking shoes ending up a muddy mess on a few of the less than dry trails around here. :smile: I decided it would be nice to have a dedicated pair of hiking shoes since I was going at least twice a week.) I love mine! I don't go too far yet or do anything too treacherous either. They are so lightweight and have a nice grippy sole. I've worn them on different kinds of trails and they've been great so far. I also got a bike this spring and the grippy sole works really well on the platform pedals on my bike, much better than my other shoes. I figure if trail runners work for thru hikers on the Appalachian and Pacific Crest trails, they will more than work for me. :) I'm sure I won't wear them out as quickly as those hikers do. (It will take me a while to build up my mileage!) Good luck in your search for new hiking shoes!
  • jodibeth5744
    jodibeth5744 Posts: 65 Member
    @bmeadows380 when I was younger and worked on my feet all day I had terrible heel spurs and foot pain. At the time all I could afford was cheap shoes from Payless. My boss at the time never had any pain and was much older than me and when I asked her she recommended Clarks shoes. They’re expensive at the start but in all honesty they last years compared to my cheap shoes that would breakdown after a few months. They were a game changer-I went from absolute pain to NO pain. I’d really recommend them.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    @bmeadows380 when I was younger and worked on my feet all day I had terrible heel spurs and foot pain. At the time all I could afford was cheap shoes from Payless. My boss at the time never had any pain and was much older than me and when I asked her she recommended Clarks shoes. They’re expensive at the start but in all honesty they last years compared to my cheap shoes that would breakdown after a few months. They were a game changer-I went from absolute pain to NO pain. I’d really recommend them.

    thank you! I'll look into them too!

    that's what I can't get my mother or my sister to understand - you often get what you pay for, and what Walmart sells now is all "memory foam" shoes with no underlying support at all. And if she is replacing her shoes 4 times in a year but a pair of more expensive shoes would last a full year or more, you really end up paying more in the long run for less.

    I know there are times where the cheap is just as good, but shoes I don't think is one of them!
  • jodibeth5744
    jodibeth5744 Posts: 65 Member
    Definitely! Four pairs of Walmart shoes is definitely more expensive than one pair of Clarks. It’s hard to get out of that “it’s cheap now” mentality, esp when money is tight. I totally get it. But as I’ve gotten older I definitely find it’s cheaper to invest in quality for the long run!
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    Definitely! Four pairs of Walmart shoes is definitely more expensive than one pair of Clarks. It’s hard to get out of that “it’s cheap now” mentality, esp when money is tight. I totally get it. But as I’ve gotten older I definitely find it’s cheaper to invest in quality for the long run!

    that's is the heart of it - it's "$20 for this pair of shoes versus $80 for that pair" and "$80 is ridiculous for a pair of shoes!" And while I know her paycheck isn't much, I also shake my head because she'll opt for the $20 pair of cheap tennis shoes, then go around and spend $50 on stuff like crafting supplies, a new pair of pajamas when she has about 12 pair of good ones already, etc. Or she'll get her income rebate and instead of setting aside $100 for a good pair of shoes, she'll blow $300 on party supplies or whatever. My sister has no sense of money management at all, despite my mother's myriad attempts at showing her over the years.

    Meanwhile, I decided to pick up a pair of hiking tennis shoes for me last night. My cross trainers are fine for my local walking, but I have no intention of using them on a trail, and the boots I had been using for hiking are starting to make my feet hurt, so they are being regulated to yard work use. I also picked up a pack of hiking socks which i didn't even know existed until NovusDies mentioned them earlier. I had a time finding ones that would fit me, though, and I ended up having to get men's because I wear a women's 11W shoe which hasn't changed at all since I began losing weight 140 lbs ago, and all the socks I found in the women's were up to size 10. But that's a normal problem for me *sigh*
  • jodibeth5744
    jodibeth5744 Posts: 65 Member
    That’s great! Best of luck breaking them in. I too repurpose my old shoes to yard work and lawn mowing.
  • 88olds
    88olds Posts: 4,534 Member
    In the long run it pays to care for your feet. If you ever cross into podiatrist recommended shoes it can get to be expensive.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    papayahed wrote: »
    How timely. I just started hiking and I don't go to far or too treacherous but I've been looking at hiking shoes. I'm just unsure what to get so yesterday I bought trail runners. How do you guys feel about trail runners vs hiking shoes?

    I can still return them.

    @papayahed

    Here is what my limited experience has taught me so far. Trail running shoes are going to be great for any trail that is dry and only mildly uneven ground. If you can imagine running on it without risk of injury it is fine. Many trails will fit this criteria. They are well established. The downside is that they are so well maintained that they are more like walking in park and less like hiking in nature.

    Hiking shoes are for more all terrain type trails. They should provide excellent grip on very uneven and wet ground and be able to keep your feet dry in wet conditions. Imagine walking alongside a waterway that is lined with river rock. These are not places you could easily imagine yourself running but are generally very beautiful places to walk/hike.

    There is nothing wrong, to me, in doing both. I have obviously been doing more of the former as I have been ramping up my stamina but I long to do more of the latter. I feel like I can wear my normal walking shoes most of the time on highly established trails but I am looking for shoes that can handle more.

    The problem with finding a hiking shoe is that they can be advertised as hiking shoes even though they are only designed for short treks in park-like settings. Actually finding any shoe truly designed for comfort and support in excess of 5 continuous miles is difficult. Also, wearing hiking shoes is a style for some people and they never actually hike in them at all.

    I am returning all 6 pairs of the shoes I have tried. None of them are what I need. I am afraid the ones I need are going to cost me closer to 150 dollars which is giving me heartburn.
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    I don’t hike but I have worn Brooks from Happy Feet ( $125 ) and New Balance ( $175 ) for years...they keep the arch support for a long time...very expensive but so worth it... I worked on cement floors on my feet for years in our stores and I never had foot or leg pain.....until I got old lol
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    Off on another subject here....what do you eat after a work out?...I have been having a lower calorie protein bar or cottage cheese doubles by breakstone...I also drink 0 Gatorade while I am in the pool and a quart of H2O when I get home...is this the right thing to be eating?
  • jodibeth5744
    jodibeth5744 Posts: 65 Member
    @conniewilkins56 I always eat a banana as soon as I’m done working out, and then my next meal as soon as possible. If my work out is at home, I’ll pop the banana in the blender with rolled oats, soy yogurt, and flax seed.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    I mowed grass for well over an hour yesterday evening - push mowing and in very tall grass at my parents' camp. I enjoyed dinner and a good dessert, too. And as usual, I saw a spike on the scale this morning following such activity. Its irritating for sure, but not surprising - I've noticed this happens every time I spend a lot of time push mowing.

    Interesting to me, though, was that while I was pushing that mower yesterday, I realized that I actually liked doing it. So I found an activity I can enjoy - too bad its not something I can do all year round! lol

    But I am dragging big time this morning. I'm just exhausted even though I went to bed earlier than normal for me and got at least 6 hours in last night. I had a very difficult time motivating myself to get moving yesterday too.
  • gewel321
    gewel321 Posts: 718 Member
    @bmeadows380 I absolutely LOVE mowing the grass. It is the one chore I won't allow anyone else to do. I love to put my headphones in and go at it. No one bothers me. I never see the scale move the day after but sometimes it takes a few days. It does come off at the end!
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    edited July 2020
    I was going to mow my own yard this evening, but got side tracked instead. A house was torn down less than 1/4 a mile from my place, and the guy who did it asked if he could dump the block and rocks onto my grandfather's property across the road from me. There is a really deep hollow there and grandpa told him he could if he'd push them on over into the hollow. The guy didn't do it, or at least not yet, but in the meantime, the cinder blocks were mostly in good shape and I hated to see them just get buried, especially as eventually I need to build a retaining wall behind my house.

    So I took mom and dad's wagon over after I got off work and loaded 72 of those suckers into the wagon and then brought them home and unloaded them. And these were old cinder blocks, too - some were actually made of cinders! I also learned that if I'm going to be doing that sort of heavy work, I'd better eat something before I head out the door; i had water with me but hadn't eaten anything substantial and had to come home and grab a peanut butter sandwich before I could unload the blocks.

    Then came the problem of figuring out how to count the activity. It took me 50 minutes to load them and 45 minutes to unload them, and we're talking carrying blocks that are heavy - I'm not even sure how to estimate the weight but probably well over 10-15 lbs apiece! I was sweating for sure and will definitely be sore tomorrow! But nothing in MFP's database came even close. So I went to a different website and took one they had for laying crushed rock and created a user entry called carrying block. I figure its probably way underestimated, but that's okay; it did at least capture some of it.

    I'd like to go back Saturday and get at least that many more if I can!
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    I hope you wore gloves!...my back hurts thinking about you lifting those blocks!
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    I hope you wore gloves!...my back hurts thinking about you lifting those blocks!

    definitely wore gloves, so the hands, while sore, aren't scraped up. did get a few scrapes on the legs. The back isn't hurting; its the arms; when i go in and lay down, my arms and wrists are probably going to ache like crazy.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    Apparently if I mow my entire back yard with the push mower (something I should really not be doing with my knees and the hill) it adds up to nearly 5 miles of walking.

    It wasn't really my intention to mow it all that way. I kept thinking just a little more and I will go get the rider to finish. Towards the end I reached a place where I was too tired to stop. That doesn't make sense when I type it but it seemed like more effort to stop and go get the rider than to just finish what little I had not already mowed.

    To be honest though I have been wanting to do it at least once. I always push mow a little of it. I like to do around the garden so I have full control over where the grass is going and my new bushes and last time I push mowed a fair amount more than I needed to do so the challenge of doing it all was there as an itch I really wanted to scratch.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    Oh and to make it an even more fun challenge I did in the middle of a very hot day. I did wet down and freeze one of my bandannas to tie around my neck which was really helpful in the last half of mowing.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    Oh and to make it an even more fun challenge I did in the middle of a very hot day. I did wet down and freeze one of my bandannas to tie around my neck which was really helpful in the last half of mowing.

    *winces* someone is going to be very sore tomorrow, I'd wager lol

    I know what you mean, though - once I get to moving on a project, even when I get tired I don't stop because I know I'll never get started again!

    What's a little irritating for me is that my fitness tracker doesn't count my steps that I put in while push mowing very well - the arm isn't always swinging, and if its not swinging, the tracker isn't counting :frowning: I have started just using the fitness part of the tracker to get my time in because its the one section that doesn't require movement for the tracker to stay running; the others, like walking for instance, will stop timing if the tracker doesn't sense the appropriate movement.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    Oh and to make it an even more fun challenge I did in the middle of a very hot day. I did wet down and freeze one of my bandannas to tie around my neck which was really helpful in the last half of mowing.

    *winces* someone is going to be very sore tomorrow, I'd wager lol

    I know what you mean, though - once I get to moving on a project, even when I get tired I don't stop because I know I'll never get started again!

    What's a little irritating for me is that my fitness tracker doesn't count my steps that I put in while push mowing very well - the arm isn't always swinging, and if its not swinging, the tracker isn't counting :frowning: I have started just using the fitness part of the tracker to get my time in because its the one section that doesn't require movement for the tracker to stay running; the others, like walking for instance, will stop timing if the tracker doesn't sense the appropriate movement.

    On the apple watch if you initiate an "outdoor walk" it will give you credit for steps based on GPS tracking. Given that I was walking slower with the mower and it took me 2.5 hours the math works out for ~5 miles so even if the estimate isn't perfect it is a good ballpark.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    Hmmm. I wonder if that would work with my tracker? Mine is a cheap $30 thing I got from Amazon and it meets my needs without the bells and whistles (which is what I wanted). When I tried using it on my elliptical is when it wouldn't register activity unless my arm was swinging, but of course, I was in one place during that activity. I hadn't tried turning on the GPS feature when I was mowing the lawn, however. That has to be activated through my phone, but I usually have my phone on me when I mow as I have a set of blue tooth ear muffs. I'll give it a try when I mow tomorrow (if I get to mow tomorrow) and see if I can get my activity counted that way. Though since I don't sync my monitor to MFP, entering everything manually, it probably really doesn't matter as long as I have the minutes right, as that's all I need to enter the information into my exercise diary using the pre-loaded MFP entry. Still, it would be nice to see the actual steps taken!
  • cremorna1
    cremorna1 Posts: 133 Member
    Another idea is to put the tracker in your sock or somehow attach it to your foot or ankle. That way it would count the steps. I've had to do that a couple of times myself. :)