Food, Exercise, or other Reports

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  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    lol. I should go dig up one of the posts where @bmeadows380 said that hated formal exercise.

    That's it. That is all I got for now. I am so beat. I have callouses, blister, bruises, and I think the only places I am not sore are from the neck up. Is it weird I love it? Anyway many projects completed and many others close and like an idiot I still got up early each morning and exercised for over 2 hours. Time for bed. I am sure I will be back up at it again tomorrow morning.

    *laughs* well, I still despise a gym environment!

    I can relate to the exercising for 2 hours then doing a ton of yard work afterwards....


    It's almost 9:30 and I'm just getting dinner in. After going to Lowes and Walmart, I came home and first riding mowed my yard and the neighbors for about 45 minutes to an hour (I didn't time that or count the calories though with a slight bank in front of my house and the neighbor's house being on a fairly steep grade, it still took some muscle power to keep m seat!), then I pushed mowed what I couldn't get with the rider for 1 1/2 hours after changing the oil in the neighbor's push mower (his lawn mower is new and easier to push than mine, so since I was doing both yards, he didn't care if I used it for mine too). And his yard includes that really steep hill in the back that requires I push up from the bottom then pull up from the top. And I did a thorough with that push mower on both yards, hence the 1 1/2 hours. And that earned over 400 calories if I use the general lawn mowing entry for MFP and only count 1/2 of it, and from the way I feel, I had to have gotten that in at least!

    My grand total steps so far is 19,000 for the day, and I am bushed!

    I was going to push through and make myself eat all my allotted calories, but you know what? I'm not going to do that after all. I'll eat my peaches and my ice cream sandwich, but whatever is left I'm going to bank till tomorrow. Dinner is at mom's house and its always tricky to get the calories held in when she's cooking, so this will give me some breathing room!
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    Hit the snooze this morning so I didn't get up until 5am. Just finished my touch over 5 mile walk. Now I have to walk the dog. I was feeling sore this morning so I decided to walk up an area of my neighborhood the other walkers call "murder hill" because that makes so much sense. It was kind of bugging me that I had not walked the entire neighborhood but now that my knee supports work so well I decided to do it all included the two hilly cul-de-sacs.

    For any lurker reading this that thinks this is necessary to lose weight - it is not. The very first day I walked a continuous mile (and it was not easy for me) I had already lost 203 pounds.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    Hit the snooze this morning so I didn't get up until 5am. Just finished my touch over 5 mile walk. Now I have to walk the dog. I was feeling sore this morning so I decided to walk up an area of my neighborhood the other walkers call "murder hill" because that makes so much sense. It was kind of bugging me that I had not walked the entire neighborhood but now that my knee supports work so well I decided to do it all included the two hilly cul-de-sacs.

    For any lurker reading this that thinks this is necessary to lose weight - it is not. The very first day I walked a continuous mile (and it was not easy for me) I had already lost 203 pounds.

    ^^this! I've only lost 130 lbs compared to NovusDies's 203, but I only started adding in exercise in mid-February, and that consisted of a 30 minute walking loop around a school's driveway. I've been increasing from there, but while the extra calories gained back from the exercise is nice, I'm doing it primarily for trying to better my health, not because I have to for losing weight. You CAN lose weight through diet alone.

    There isn't much hill area in my small town. I have a small hill from my house down into a dip at the edge of town, then a small hill back up from there into mid-town. The rest of the town is relatively flat except for the road going up the mountain behind town, and the larger hill on the other side.

    I'm definitely sore from yesterday - pushing mowing is a workout! I do really hope to get a walk in today and might try out the 30s run/2 min walk cycle I set up, but it all depends on the weather. It was SUPPOSED to be partly cloudy today with an increasing chance of thunderstorms this afternoon, but its completely cloudy out there now. I have church at 11 so I can't walk this morning; here's hoping I have the time this afternoon! I'd also like to dig out the bike for a little while, too.

    Cause while those 200 calories banked from yesterday will help today, I could still use a little more wiggle room in my food diary today, if I can get it in.
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    We have NO hills on the West coast of Florida....at least we are above sea level....when we lived in the Keys we were below sea level and surrounded by the ocean and our house was three stories!...I hated those steps!....I checked our neighborhood pool yesterday and no date to open....I did buy a new bottle of sunscreen so I will be ready for the reopening!....I feel good today and back in control...I have already finished a bunch of chores this morning and have chicken out for dinner....I am envious of all the exercise Novus and bmeadows get in!....with my broken toe I have an excuse not to do any right now...ok, back to watching reruns of SVU....you all have a fantastic Sunday!
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    so I made a new 8 cycle run schedule with 30s runs and 2 minute walks and tried it out today during my 5.6 mile walk. it was still challenging but not nearly like yesterday; I might have completed the 1 min run one yesterday, but I knew realistically I wasn't going to be able to due it multiple days, so I backed it off. The 30s run I can handle - I think :)

    With the walk and then vacuuming and swiffering my house (I have all hard floors), I earned enough calories to cover a 2nd piece of cake this evening and so far, stay under the limit today, including yesterday's bank. I don't know if I'll make it all the way without something else before bedtime though - PMS is hitting with the munchies. I tried satisfying it earlier before church by eating my yogurt and adding in some turkey, but my body wasn't buying that, so I finally got a piece of toast with a little bit of peanut butter and that calmed the beast down for a little while - apparently, the beast wanted carbs, not protein!
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    With my knees running is medically restricted so I won't be trying that while I still have my original equipment.

    I am more sore today which will sometimes happen. My weight is way up but no surprise. I was so busy on Saturday I ended up getting fast food and with the way the rest of the day played out I ended up heavy on sodium. I was happy to do the projects and the weight will go back down.

    I didn't end the 3 day marathon of yard labor in much of a deficit. I put the priority on fueling the work. It will be very hot here soon and getting this stuff done now means I won't be doing all the hard work in the heat. We hired someone last year and the yard and landscaping was meh all summer. Now that I can do more I wanted to at least try to make it look nicer.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    I"m not looking forward to the heat, either, though where I am right now, May's outlook is below normal temperature wise, and the long range forecast definitely is in line with that.

    My weight is up this morning, too, but I'm not concerned. Like you, I'm still recovering from Saturday's activity - push-mowing isn't bad while I'm doing it, but it takes a couple of days to get over the soreness afterwards! My hands and knees are still sore! And yesterday, mom had corned beef for lunch, which I'm pretty sure was chocked full of sodium since it was a store-bought one. Yummy though, especially since she cut way down on the spices!

    So between the sodium, the activity, general body issues, and the fact that TOM will be here in 72 hours or less, its not surprising in the least that I'm retaining water, and probably will throughout the week, so if Thursday's weigh in is the same as last week or even a little higher, I'll try not to freak out lol

    Meanwhile, I'm off today, and have a ton of stuff to get done, but I'm having a dilly of a time getting myself moving. So here's to getting my blankets hung up outside to dry, and then getting a cardio video in, then getting started on washing windows, spraying the siding down and scrubbing it, getting my potato towers ready, getting my garden boxes ready, extending the fences around my fruit trees (to protect them from the deer), and whatever else I can fit in today!
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    I took some ibuprofen so I am loosening up a bit. That is good because I am taking off in about another hour from my work to do, well, other work.

    I see no reason I can't be in my normal 500 calorie deficit today.

    My weight will not fully recover this week. I have too much soreness for that and my experience has been that if you have retention from more than one source it is a 10ish day trip back down. Mine is probably 3 sources. The inflammation, the sodium, and I believe physical stress. I have some poorish weather coming in so I will use one of those days to try and hit the minimum activity levels and no more. I strongly suspect if I do not have more of a down day soon I will not see my lowest weight potential anytime soon. Obviously I need to do it for my overall well-being too. I don't see it as an emergency thing, I just need to get it done sometime soon.

    On a big plus note my new hiking shoes came in today. I have been trying to wear my old shoes to do yard work but one pair is almost falling apart so they are safe for limited things. The others are my previous walking shoes which I seem to have zero tolerance for now. Both just murder my feet after a very short amount of time. I have been just sucking it up and enduring but it hasn't been fun. I could have worn my new walking shoes but I do not want to mess them up because they are expensive and they are very lightweight. I am kind of afraid if I use them on non paved surfaces doing harder work it will be akin to riding a city bike on rough terrain. Not only could it ruin them it could even be a little dangerous.

    The other part of the plus note is that I am ready to go hiking as soon as they start opening the trails around here again. That assumes these shoes work out. I am a little concerned because they were relatively inexpensive.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    I'm going to be extremely sore tonight, I can already tell. I didn't get all the siding done because I ran out of cleaner, but just the side that I did was major work because I had to take a deck brush and really scrub hard to try to get the green off of it. Between that and washing all my windows today, I'm given my arms a big workout, and that's after using 2 lb weights during cardio today to up the intensity!

    I realized that I couldn't do the potato towers today because you have to layer up as you go, and figured that I might as well wait on the garden boxes, too. I took down all my curtains and washed them and backed my lawn mower back out and run it with the water house to clean the deck. I took my saber saw and cut off the bottom of hte doors to the lawnmower shed because I need a ramp in front and the doors were too long and in the way.

    I kind of feel like I really didn't get much accomplished for that time of work, and i really had no idea how to count it, so I ended up using 15 minutes heavy cleaning and 30 minutes light cleaning. I did part of the windows, then worked on the siding, then came back and did the rest, but I had other things I did in the middle, too, so I don't really know how long I actually spent doing all that cleaning. 15 and 30 may not really be enough, but I figured I'd go conservative with it. I'm getting ready to head out on my walk, though I'm going to limit it down to 4 miles tonight.

    I'm sure I'm holding onto water because of excess activity; the rain coming in this week will curtail me for most of the week as well as back to job work tomorrow, so that should hopefully give me some time to recover.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    ended up walking 5.4 miles and got my run cycles in, but I think I overdid it today as my knees are complaining. But tomorrow is back to job work which means sitting in front of a computer, so I just need to figure out how to prop those knees up and I'll work on icing them tomorrow.

    What's really going to be sore is my arms, after all that heavy scrubbing today.
  • bobsburgersfan
    bobsburgersfan Posts: 6,464 Member
    Scrubbing is hard work!

    I went for a walk yesterday. Exercise has been a challenge lately, because I'm a gym class girl for sure! It has been so hard to motivate myself to work out at home by myself, so walking with friends has been a partial solution. I am also doing more yard work for exercise, so that has been good (for the yard). I'll probably do something like that tonight. I might do a short workout video, and then do yard work to add on.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    my knees, especially my left one, are pretty swollen today. They've been giving me some trouble with swelling, but today is the worst. Its not that it's hurting, but that its tight and not bending well at all. I was on my feet too much the last couple of days, and yesterday's ladder work doing the windows (only 3 of my windows tilt :frowning: ) did me in; my knees always give me trouble after I've spend some time on a ladder.

    Last night before bed, both knees were in pretty sad shape, but a night's sleep brought much improvement to the right knee; not so much to the left.

    I tried icing it this morning but that didn't help, so now I'm trying heat and ibuprofen. And I made sure wear my constriction socks today, too, to help the fluid out of my legs. I still want to do my cardio today, but I'm definitely going to have to keep it low impact only - I was flirting with a few high impact moves, such as regular jumping jacks, but I'm going to have to back those off, and definitely used modified versions of any moves requiring lunges or squats. It's supposed to rain through tomorrow night, so there won't be a long walk in the next couple of days, which will give me a break, too, and try to get them back into good shape.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    I was still able to get some aerobics in because today's session focused more on the upper body, and whatever squats were called for I did a modified form. I also still got a 4 1/2 mile walk in because the Good Lord was kind enough to give us a break in the rain. But that's down from what I had been doing.

    The knee doesn't hurt; its just swelled and tight, and the other is mildly so, so I know its repetitive motion and too much use that is the problem. I iced it twice today and it didn't help at all, and I also tried a heating pad for an hour which didn't do anything, either. Elevating it actually makes it feel worse. So I"ll keep up the ibuprofen for another day or two and take it easier. Tomorrow is supposed to rain all day, so that means sticking to the elliptical, and I'll probably just do 1 session instead of two like I usually do when I can't get my outside walk in, and try to back off on the use of the knees like that.

    I tried the running 3 days this weekend- Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, and that was after working in the yard all day Saturday and climbing a ladder to clean windows on Monday - so over use is likely the problem. But I fear that the running may have exasperated it; I may not be able to do high impact exercises like that. I'll give my knees a break and then we'll have to see. Oh well, even if I can't take up a little running, the running shoes still make good walking shoes, too, though I think I still like the cross trainers for that better.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    Oh, and I';m pretty sure even with the extra calories from exercise, I was probably over today because I wanted Mexican for dinner from the local restaurant uptown, and there is on good way to factor in that sort of food. I stuck with mixed steak and chicken fajitas, bought an extra grilled chicken salad with only lettuce, tomato, and a little mushroom and put the mix on top of that, then opted for my own sour cream since I had light at home, and left out the tortillas completely. I did put some guacamole on it, and i did have 1 serving of the re-fried beans, and using Qdoba as my example, I clocked in around 1,000 calories for that meal, which I figure is close enough.

    I don't care, though - it was good! And Cinco de Mayo only comes around once a year :) It took 45 minutes though to get my food - they were that busy, and that's with carry out only orders! I was glad to see they were getting the business; they are locally owned, so I want to support the home community when I can.

    So the scale is definitely going to be up tomorrow - extra food, restaurant food at that which means extra sodium, I'm still dealing with the swelling in my knee which equates to fluid build up and water weigh gain, and TOM will be here full tilt by tomorrow morning. I'll be rather surprised if that scale isn't clear back over 250 lbs tomorrow, but it won't be nearly as frustrating on me since I know exactly where it's coming from.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    Its cold outside! :cold_sweat:

    I got my walk in this morning after all; it was slightly misty outside and darned cold, but still walkable. 5.4 miles in 1 hour 35 minutes, which is 3.4 mph, roughly, so I counted 0.65 of the 3.0 mph entry to cover it. Good news is that walking didn't hurt the knee and in fact, now that I"m back, I realize I can bend it again, so perhaps that has helped it!

    And to my surprise, the scale was down almost 2 lbs from yesterday, which might also be an indicator that the swelling is dissipating. I still plan to do cardio at lunch, but like yesterday, I'll modify anything requiring lunges or squats.

    So now I"m ready for some breakfast, and go heat up that last big of coffee for some warmth!
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    I got my cardio in; today was less emphasis on leg work, thank goodness. The knee is bending better, too, though I'm still limping a bit later in the day.

    I'm going to be over my limit by 16 calories today, but I needed a bit more protein, and I'm making homemade bread, which demands having a slice warm from the oven! lol Besides, this is actually a good thing for me: I've got that innate fear of going over into the red, one as it kicks of guilt of "failure" and two I fear that my brain will then start going over more and more thinking, "16 isn't bad, its okay if you go ahead and go over another 100".... So I'm considering this as practice on restraint and also in letting go of some of the sense of failure for every little tiny thing :smiley:

    I mean, I could go hit the elliptical tonight since I didn't get a session in, but I'm tired and blah right now and don't think its really necessary - I don't want to end up in that trap either, the one where you squeak out extra exercise just to get extra calories to eat. Obviously, my body wants a few lighter days anyway, so I'll either veg in front of the computer or maybe force myself to dig the sewing machine out and put that stuffed cat I'm making for my niece together. Nah - I still have 2 weeks until her birthday and I really just don't feel like it right now :)

    At least I did get it cut out yesterday and its face embroidered on!

    Oooh - timer is going off which means my cherry cobbler may be done!
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    Must be something in the air!...my left ankle is swollen this evening and I didn’t do anything to it....my right foot has the broken toe on it and it doesn’t feel that bad....we had a busy day so my daughter fixed dinner and my husband cleaned up so I got to prop my legs up!...send me a slice of that homemade bread please!
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    I knew my weight was going to be up from last week for my record day, and while it stinks I'm recording a 1.5 lb gain, I know its not true weight gain and that I'm retaining a lot of water right now (the puffy feeling is just one indicator), so that does help blunt the disappointment.

    Weekly comparison:


    4/9 weight: 253.8 lbs

    4/9-4/15 total net calorie intake: 11,925
    exercise calorie intake: 2,359
    total week calories: 14,284
    total step count: 83,443 (average of 11,920 per day)
    daily calorie limit before exercise: 1400
    weight loss for the week: 3.6 lbs
    4/16 weight:250.2 lbs

    4/16-4/22 total net calorie intake: 11,658
    exercise calorie intake: 3,356
    total week calories: 15,014
    total step count: 93,923 (an average of 13,417 per day).
    daily calorie limit before exercise: 1600
    weight loss for the week: 0.3 lbs
    4/23 weight: 249.9 lbs

    4/23-4/29 total net calorie intake: 10,945
    exercise calorie intake: 3,162
    total week calories: 14,657
    total step count: 96,534 (an average of 13,791 per day)
    daily calorie limit before exercise: 1600
    weight loss for the week: 3.7 lbs
    4/30 weight: 246.2 lbs


    4/30-5/6 total net calorie intake: 11,538
    exercise calorie intake: 4,095
    total week calories: 15,633
    total step count: 106930 (an average of 15,276 per day)
    daily calorie limit before exercise: 1600
    weight loss for the week: +1.5 lbs
    4/30 weight: 247.7 lbs
    total weight loss in 4 weeks: 6.1 lbs
    rate: 1.5 lbs/wk


    so my total calorie intake went up by 1,000 calories this week, while my exercise calorie intake went up by 933 calories, which statistically is that 1,000 calories. Step count went up by 10,396 steps, or about 1,485 extra steps a day. Activity has been going up steadily in the last 4 weeks if the step count is anything to go by.

    While this is a 4 week comparison, I need to go 1 more week; I started the 1600 calorie deficit on 4/16 and that's what I want 4 weeks of to compare to. If I throw out the 4/9 weigh in and go with the 3 week total, then I've only lost 2.5 lbs in 3 weeks, which is 0.8 lbs/wk. But since I'm currently at the beginning of my cycle, this week's numbers are not the ones to compare to, so I know I need to wait until next week before making any sort of adjustments.


    Still, no matter the outcome next week, I think I'm going to change some things. I think I'm going to reduce my calorie deficit back down to 1400 calories to get back to daily sedentary activity level, and then try adding back 75% of my exercise calories instead of the current 50%. I just feel that I'm double-dipping on the exercise calories, since the lion's share of those extra steps are coming from intentional exercise. I'll have to keep that going until July, though, because I still firmly intend to take a diet break starting 5/28 (pushed out 2 weeks because I had to push out my vacation plans 2 weeks).

    For the diet break, I hope all this data will help me figure out my maintenance calorie level to shoot for while on that diet break! Though I suppose my next question ought to be, while on the diet break, should I eat what I calculate to be maintenance calories and also 100% of MFP values for exercise? While I hate the idea of over-compensating and actually putting on 1 lb or two of fat during the diet break (though I doubt even over eating, I'd over eat by THAT much), at the same time, I know that I need to be completely out of the deficit for that 2 weeks period as my body needs to reset and that won't happen if I'm still in a deficit. At the same time, I'm still not sure MFP's exercise calories are 100% correct, though perhaps they are better than I thought they were since I"m planning on counting back 75% of them starting next week....
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    weight was up a little more today, but then again, I had Arby's for dinner last night, plus a 5.6 mile walk and 19,000+ steps in for the day. Not really a worry to me.

    I took my measurements this morning, since my last measurements on 4/16 3 weeks ago, I'm down 1/2" in the waist and what I call "high waist" or that hanging bulge of mostly empty skin that was my muffin top. If I'd ever opt for skin removal, that's where I'd need it down; the bottom bulge I've noticed seems to be tightening up nicely on its own. My bust seemed to have popped up 1/2" but at the same time, I'm wearing a new bra today, so that's where the 1/2" comes from, so I just kept it marked the same.

    Meanwhile, I did get a walk in this morning, though it was only 4.9 miles. But since I expected to get up to rain this morning, having the time to get that walk in was a blessing today!


    Also, I've been dragging a bit this week, and my knees, while better, are still swelled and giving me some trouble. Definitely a warning to me that high impact exercise is not in my future! This dragginess, I suspect, is my body's way of hinting to me its time for a diet break. I realize that aggressive weight loss for 4 months is a long time and that a diet break is needed, but I really want to wait until the end of the month if I can so it coincides with my vacation plans.
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    Does a 3 or 4 day binge count as an actual diet break?...how long should one go before taking a break?...I know I will eventually have to learn how to maintain but that terrifies me!...I have always lost or gained and have never maintained...currently I am not adding any exercise calories back in...this week I lost 9.5 of my binge gain...I am a mess lol
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    edited May 2020
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10604863/of-refeeds-and-diet-breaks/p1

    the above is the thread, but its just the first page or so with a lot of great information (ie you don't have to read all 220 pages lol). The following is from the 1st post:
    Primarily for the reason that as people get leaner, the more the effects of hormonal down regulation are felt, with leptin being the primary hormone (AKA the "satiety" hormone) discussed (in depth 6 part series on the subject: https://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-hormones-of-bodyweight-regulation-leptin-part-1.html/), but the summary is that signaling tracks along with total body fat, and the less body fat you have, the less leptin (and general hormone)signaling your body sends to accommodate, generally leading to an increase ghrelin (the "hunger" hormone), to get body fat back up for its own comfort.

    This is where the subject of diet breaks takes place.

    *Footnote: anytime the body sees an energy deficit, all metabolic processes down regulate - body fat levels determine how hard the dieter feels those effects.



    1. Diet breaks are for everyone. People with more body fat can have a longer dieting period than lean people, but diet breaks should still be included every so often to give yourself a break and enjoy life like a normal person; again diet breaks are determined at current bodyweight maintenance.

    Essential reading (it’s short): https://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html/

    2. Diet breaks can be used more frequently during periods of dieting, meaning 1-2 weeks of eating at maintenance (calculated at current body weight) after being on a constant dieting period of an energy deficit. Conversely, the dieting period itself can be reduced as body fat reduces.

    "The leaner you are, the less dieting you need."


    - The ultimate goal is long-term (life-long) weight loss, as seen by losing excess fat, that achieves optimal health from a personal standpoint

    - No one should need/want to be on a diet forever, so by breaking the monotony of deficit eating with more flexibility, it actually strengthens adherence to the dieting period

    - Sometimes long-term maintenance is harder than being in a deficit, so diet breaks and frequent refeeds are also a way to train yourself for eating at an energy balance over an indefinite extended period

    - Maintenance is going to be subjectively defined as a range of acceptable body weight and body fat levels; maintenance is not a static number and it's going to be a running average of long term data so trying to put a hard number on TDEE is only a tool to give you an idea of what to aim for. Actual maintenance is going to fluctuate up or down in activity, eating, social events… just life in general.

    - Diet breaks are for everyone. People with more body fat can have a longer dieting period than lean people, but diet breaks should still be included every so often to give yourself a break and enjoy life like a normal person; again diet breaks are determined at current bodyweight maintenance. (yes, we are repeating for emphasis…)

    - Aggressive dieting should not be a goal because it is not sustainable. Larger individuals have enough excess fat stores to support it for some periods, but the more aggressive the deficit, the less time they need to be in a dieting period.

    - If you have/are recovering from an ED, practicing flexible dieting strategies may be beneficial for long term satisfaction and quality of life. Structured refeeds and diet breaks can be a tool to incorporate them. Not all health food is healthy and not all junk food is garbage.

    The timing is based upon your body fat%: the higher the fat percentage, the longer you can stand between breaks.

    For BMI over 28, its recommended to take one every 12-16 weeks.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    edited May 2020
    26 weeks for me was technically the week of 4/23, but I'm stretching it out another 5 weeks because I want to coincide with that vacation. But if my energy levels continue to flag, I may be forced to do it sooner, and then just take the week of vacation off as well, but I hate to do that.

    A diet break is eating at maintenance a minimum of 1 week to reset those levels, so the 3 to 4 day binge would be more of a refeed, which is shorter, than a diet break.


    But in your case, you might want to read up on the subject and then seriously consider scheduling a diet break every 12 weeks or so - it might be a tool that can be used to help with the binges.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    I am doing my best to take it easy(easier) today. I have been going too hard for the last few weeks. I have had a lot of projects with exercise all on top. Since it is raining today I decided to do my Friday projects yesterday which included emptying and cleaning my storage building and push mowing the front yard. On top of all my other projects I have decided to do some reconfiguration of the building to increase storage, organization, and flow. I pick up the rest of the materials I need for construction later today. It isn't a lot of work but it is considering how much I have already done and will do. As cool as it is and will be for a few more days the heat is coming though and that building is not air conditioned so if I am going to get it done now is the time. Besides even though I do not expect to eat off the floors the occasional bug bomb, dusting, sweeping, cobweb removal, and window cleaning is necessary. If I put some screens over the vents and seal a few holes I think I can cut down on the bugs going forward.

    It doesn't help that small projects keep jumping on my plate either. My generator has a leak so that has to be fixed. My new-to-me riding lawn mower was never maintained properly (no wonder it was a steal) so I am dealing with that too. These are small jobs but I intend to get everything done so when the heat does hit I can maintain what I have done instead of doing new. If my rider runs better better after I am done I intend to get a mulch kit for it so, yay, more stuff! The mulch kit will cut down on weeding though because I will stop blowing stuff in places I do not want things growing.

    I wonder if you can burn more calories just thinking about all the stuff on your to do list.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    edited May 2020
    boy I wish calorie burned that way! :) Isn't fair; it seems sometimes that just looking at a fudge brownie makes me gain 5 lbs; I ought to be able to lose 5 lbs by thinking of strenuous activity too lol


    lunch was rather interesting for me today. I had a 1 lb package of 93% lean ground beef to partition out, so I put 3 portions in the freezer and fried up the last portion in the griddle while I also fried up a 1lb of low sodium bacon - I always do all the bacon at once and then put the rest of it in the freezer.

    I had the top half of my Arby's star cut bun from my turkey club sandwich as I always cut the calories down on the sandwiches by taking off the top bun, but I hate to let food go to waste, so I put it in a baggie and used it today to make an open top royal hamburger - I indulged in some low fat mayo, and put cheese, bacon, and a fried egg on top of that hamburger patty. Messy, but I was surprised at how good it was!

    Now I'm working on air-frying some homemade potato chips. I soaked them and drained them 3 times yesterday intending to make them yesterday, but then decided I needed to go to the store last night instead of today because of the weather, so I stuck them back in a bowl of water and put them back in the fridge to soak all night. They are definitely crispy and still white, at least (though the back of my fridge tends to freeze, so that might explain the crispness).

    I'm putting them into the air fryer now; we'll see if I have them thin enough!
  • conniewilkins56
    conniewilkins56 Posts: 3,391 Member
    I admire your ability to make your own chips but I would eat a snack size bag for 160 calories lol...you probably use that many calories preparing them!..

    Thank you for the diet break information...it was insightful...I think I am going to really try to go without binging until the end of June and then possibly take a break eating at maintenance...I am older than both of you and I do not want to waste a lot more years being fat...I want the weight off like yesterday!....But if it helps me continue strong then I probably need to try eating at maintenance without binging...right?

    I do not want to cut grass....EVER....push or rider...I don’t care how many calories it burns!...but more power to you!...we did our own grass for many years and I hated doing it...I really do not like to get sweaty or dirty lol...I live in Florida very close to the beach and I hate the sand,water and sun...it’s beautiful to look at but I am not food for sharks...and there are a lot of sharks tourists don’t know about!

    My week is going really good...I am back to within 2.5 pounds of my lowest weight...the weather is mild for May...I feel good and I have had a ton of energy...I might make my 80 lb loss goal by the end of the month!....our dog has behaved,kids have been good,life is ok right now...stay safe my friends and thanks again for the support and inspiration you so graciously share with this group!



  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    Friday is typically pizza or fajitas day and it was pizza's turn. I am skipping today. I whooshed 3 pounds yesterday so I want to give myself another day before I eat any restaurant food to see where I land. I was expecting this next week so I am a little shocked. Normally I wouldn't care but my numbers are still kind of foggy now that the diuretic is out of the picture.

    If today turns out to be as low as I go it might mean my rate of loss has dropped to .3 pounds per week. I know I have been calorie creeping some but my activity is higher too. I was expecting .75(ish).

    The other priority on clearer numbers is that I am overdue for a diet/deficit break. Of course if I have only been losing .3 pounds per week I might not be... lol. That is more like drifting down which I will take any progress as good news but I would not consider that rate to be taxing enough to require a break. It could be argued that perhaps the break would help alleviate some of the diet fatigue I feel which is causing the calorie creeping but I don't think (I could be wrong) that a 15 percent bump in eating is going to do much mentally. It was very different when I was not as active and in a 1000+ deficit. My last break in those days was a 55 percent increase. That felt like a flood of calories pouring back in.

  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    @conniewilkins56 actually, my homemade potato chips were only 139 calories for the entire potatoes worth. They were the right thickness, too, and I didn't burn them! I just spritz them just a little, enough for the salt to stick.

    I don't mind mowing grass - even push-mowing. I get into my groove and can let my mind wander to all kinds of places, and then when I'm time, I hot, tired, dirty, and sweaty yes, but I can sit on my porch and look with satisfaction at a job well done!

    I am currently striving for a 1,000 calorie break, so it definitely at first feels like a ton of calories coming back! Unfortunately, it is also very, very easy to down those 1,000 calories and then deal with the desire for even more it kicks off. The vacation period will be a trial to navigate, that's for sure! I'm going with my parents and my mother who doesn't bother trying to lighten up any meal. She will attempt to work with me, at least, but I already know she'll plan to have a lot of snacky foods. At the same time, I have high plans of hiking a lot and biking some, so my activity may end up even higher. Thankfully, the park does have free wifi in certain areas, so I can at least keep recording (which is good because 1)I hate having to depend on the phone app and 2) where we're going, cell phone service doesn't exist anyway)
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    I am pretty disappointed in myself. This needed to be a rest day and while I didn't think I was doing much I still ended the day with 18.5k steps. That is lighter compared to the 25k average I have been running for the last month but I wanted to cap it at 14k-ish.

    I want to still exercise in the morning and I am expecting myself to be more still the rest of the day but I can't seem to turn off the NEAT improving part of my brain. It is on automatic now. I guess this means I either have to cut my exercise in half or even skip it. Not tomorrow though. I can't waste a pretty day right now. I will see what I can do next week.

    Who knew I would have trouble being more sedentary? I guess it is not a surprise since I was forced that way for so long. I wish all that rest counted now but it doesn't work that way. It doesn't help that sitting still for too long ends with me getting up stiff and in mild pain.
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    I whooshed enough to bring me up to .67 pounds per week for my 3 week rate of loss. I might whoosh some more later but today is going to have a restaurant meal in it so I am probably going back up tomorrow morning.

    There is still mud in the water though. My TDEE is calculating close to what it did in February with an average of 9k more steps now compared to then. If I look at my post maintenance, post diuretic results which are only 23 days old it still only calculate 100 calories more.

    I may have rebooted my spreadsheet too soon. There is a reasonably good chance that my early spreadsheet numbers were also still being influenced by my surgical recovery. I was told that it could take 6 months and that would have ended at the end of February. SO MUCH MUD!

    But what is not mud is that since January 10th I have lost 14.4 pounds in the 83 days I actually intended to lose weight. That is really good progress for a phase of weight loss that is supposed to be slower.

    What is also not mud is that I am 6.8 pounds from seeing a 1 for the first time in 36 years. I can't believe how close to the end I am to the chainsaw portion of this weight loss.

    Here is how I see this playing out and keep in mind I have no actual experience so this is my best guess...

    Once I get to onederland I will begin watching for a first goal weight. This is the weight I will probably stay at for 1 to 2 years while I work on rebuilding some muscle and toning. During that time my skin will hopefully tighten some as well. Once I do that I will decide if I want to lose some more (likely) or go ahead with my second surgery. I have no intention of being "bulky" muscular just more "normal" looking and less flabby. Some more strength would not hurt my feelings either.

    The reason I wanted to stop losing in February and recomp was because I do not think I can see a goal weight as I am now. I planned to recomp 4 months, lose for 2, and recomp 4 more. The virus changed my plans so here I am.
  • bmeadows380
    bmeadows380 Posts: 2,981 Member
    @NovusDies congratulations! I can sympathize; when you have so much to lose and doing it at a sensible rate, the idea of actually getting to goal seems so far away that it can be disconcerting when you find yourself actually there. I watch you closely, you know - you are ahead of me on the trail, so I'm following your blazes :)


    My sister floated the hint that she wanted me to go to Taco Bell with her today, but I'm planning on have pork BBQs with potato salad, brussel sprouts, and bread pudding for dessert for mother's day since my mom is going to my brother's tomorrow, and all that is higher calorie, so I want to hold what I can for dinner. I'd really prefer greens and might go with those instead of the sprouts; we'll see.

    I got my workout in this morning, and need to get at least 30 minutes on the elliptical. The walk will have to be postponed until afternoon - its too dang cold this morning! And I need to get my house vacuumed and the bathroom cleaned, and now I need to fix my darned pellet stove - there's a hose to a vacuum switch on it that tend to harden an then crumble, and the technician I have service it has had to shorten it up twice, but the last time he did it I could see I'd have to have a new hose. That was only back in February and last night, the stupid stove errored out on me, telling me the hose is gone again. At least I watched how he got to it then so I know where I need to put the new one.

    And I really, really need to dig out my sewing machine! I've got to get that cat put together before next weekend, and I really need to put together this dress I've had cut out for over a year - though the dress's excuse is that with me losing weight, I have no idea what size to really make, and I'm not all that great at alterations. Still, its cut out so I might as well sew it up. And there's the caftan I promised myself I'd make for my aunt that I haven't gotten done yet, either....

    Maybe I"ll just drag my dining room table into the living room so I can watch a movie while I sew!