Did you swim today?
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I hate when those days happen, Mac. And the worst part is it can be tricky to tell if going ahead and exercising will give you more energy or wear you down more. Hope you feel better tomorrow!
Open water practice! And they were actually there - at a different beach than the one I thought (there are two on our small lake), so I didn't actually join them until half way through the practice. About 1 hour of swimming, and the coach said it was about 2km. We practiced drafting, for the most part. Which was really tricky for me - I kept up on the first 100m, and did feel the benefit of drafting, but the other swimmers were faster paced than me and I decided I should practice my sighting and go my own pace rather than kill myself sprinting the whole time to keep up with the others. (I was also the only non-wetsuit person, so that probably contributed to my slower pace).
Coach was surprised at how well I was sighting (which was news to me), and even more surprised when I told him I learned how from youtube. Got a few stroke corrections that I shall be practicing for next week. (Higher recovery for when there are waves, and changing my hand position for the finish of the stroke).0 -
Did swim yesterday and gonna swim again today. I have this little route I swim in the lake.
God, I am going to hate it when winter comes and I can't get in the open water any more.
Up Saturday, Son of a Swim at Lake Memphremagog. 2 miles. While I have done 2 miles in the pool before, never done it in open water.0 -
Trouble sleeping can also be an indication of over-training. Take a few days off, see how you feel then.Kinda sorta swam today. Got up this morning feeling tired but went to the gym anyway. Started out OK, but as I swam I just felt more & more wiped out. You know when you're so physically tired that it almost feels like your body is humming or vibrating? That's the point it got to, so I decided it was smarter to knock off. I only did a 250 free, a 500 free & a 1000 free (the last 250 of it I slowed down & used it as my cool down). Not sure what I'm gonna do tomorrow, I have a golf outing at 11:00 & I had planned on swimming beforehand but I'm not sure if I'm gonna swim now. I'll see how the rest of today goes & how I sleep tonight - my wife said I was very restless last night, so I think not falling deep asleep is part of the problem....
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15 minutes pull bouy breast stroke, 30 minutes closed fist front crawl, 16 minutes backstroke
4 lengths (100m) sprint interspersed.0 -
Thanks, guys - I took it easy after I got home & spent the afternoon taking care of the lawn. I'll head into bed at a decent hour & sleep a little later. I was up in the air about whether I was gonna swim tomorrow, then fate intervened & made my decision for me. Pennsylvania passed recent legislation requiring any adults working or volunteering with kids to have background checks & since I live in NY I'm required to get fingerprinted, so I'm gonna shoot out there in the morning to get that taken care of. I'll have plenty of time to get that done & get back for the golf outing here, so it'll give me 4 days out of the water.....
Kida & Noel - great work with the open water swims!!!!!0 -
First day back in the pool for a chunk of time (my body woes, and then mum in hospital...) - so a gentle 1k or so to ease back in. I was glad to be back in the pool.
But reading some of the group's body challenges (I've not logged in for a while) made me even more grateful for what I can do...and can keep on doing.... Emma, Bruce - wishing you well.0 -
Meters instead of yards again today. Mixed sets. 1800 total in about 50 minutes. You guys all inspire me. Everyone is doing something different and some are having challenges but are keeping it up anyway.
Stephen - I've never swam with a closed fist except as a drill, 50 or a 100 yds at a time. Is it tiring doing it for that long?
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Finally back in the pool although my lips feel weird! Probably due to whatever chemical they used to blast the algae. Swam 50 minutes.0
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Very unusual for you! I wonder what that was all about? Sounds really unusual!Kinda sorta swam today. Got up this morning feeling tired but went to the gym anyway. Started out OK, but as I swam I just felt more & more wiped out. You know when you're so physically tired that it almost feels like your body is humming or vibrating? That's the point it got to, so I decided it was smarter to knock off. I only did a 250 free, a 500 free & a 1000 free (the last 250 of it I slowed down & used it as my cool down). Not sure what I'm gonna do tomorrow, I have a golf outing at 11:00 & I had planned on swimming beforehand but I'm not sure if I'm gonna swim now. I'll see how the rest of today goes & how I sleep tonight - my wife said I was very restless last night, so I think not falling deep asleep is part of the problem....
For me I learned the hard way lack of sleep has major negative effect on my form and ability. So if I'm up really late these days, I don't even attempt an early morning swim - doesn't work!
Good idea. To take things at your own pace!After a second 10-day period of no swimming, I decided to try a slow easy mile swim to see how my elbow was. After 1,000 yards, I was starting to feel a little something so I stopped. It was not yet red or hot and was not actual pain yet but I did not want to push it. I think it is getting better.
You're in our thoughts Bruce. But I'm sure you'll pick up an alternative exercise that will eventually capture your heart the way swimming has!!!Bruceapple wrote: »I feel for you emma, I have got corn flake chips in my shoulder joint. It's hell getting old.Kida_Adeylne wrote: »I hate when those days happen, Mac. And the worst part is it can be tricky to tell if going ahead and exercising will give you more energy or wear you down more. Hope you feel better tomorrow!
Open water practice! And they were actually there - at a different beach than the one I thought (there are two on our small lake), so I didn't actually join them until half way through the practice. About 1 hour of swimming, and the coach said it was about 2km. We practiced drafting, for the most part. Which was really tricky for me - I kept up on the first 100m, and did feel the benefit of drafting, but the other swimmers were faster paced than me and I decided I should practice my sighting and go my own pace rather than kill myself sprinting the whole time to keep up with the others. (I was also the only non-wetsuit person, so that probably contributed to my slower pace).
Coach was surprised at how well I was sighting (which was news to me), and even more surprised when I told him I learned how from youtube. Got a few stroke corrections that I shall be practicing for next week. (Higher recovery for when there are waves, and changing my hand position for the finish of the stroke).
Good stuff! Sounds exciting. You and Noel with your open water swims!0 -
I went to do my laps and then my aquafitness class, but I've been falling down tired lately. I think it's a combination of working out a lot during a busy and stressful time at work. Now I've got a couple of weeks off, so my body is screaming that it all caught up to me. I ended up skipping the class and swimming laps. I decided to forgo the planned workout and just do whatever felt right. Ended up swimming about an hour, maybe a little more. Some things felt difficult, others better. One thing I have been trying to do is slow down so that I'm not so winded. I feel like I get into a rhythm with a strong pull and wear myself out. For the first time, I tried to just swim slowly (as I assume a cool down swim would be) to see if I could keep going. It felt good, but I wondered if there is much of a workout in that? Then again, if I kept going and going, eventually it would be a workout, and my guess is that as I warmed up, I would eventually get back to a stronger pull...0
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2400SCM
Masters Group
First swim in 10 days due to a chest infection, and first since MRI results.
Please excuse/ignore the P (pain) ratings - they are for my reference to track which sets cause what degree of pain so I can liaise with coach etc and have some information for orthopaedic surgeon when he reviews me in six weeks.
Pre swim P2
200 free P2
100 back P1
100 br P1
4x
100 free kick
100 br kick
2x 25 swim/run
100 free easy P1
100 free moderate P1
25 free left arm P1 but not good feel for water
25 free right arm P0
100 free fast P3
200 br P0
200 free as alternate fast/easy P3
100 back as alternate fast/easy P0
100 fly as alternate fast/easy P4
50 easy0 -
Yesterdays Swim that I forgot to log. Another Sprint Triathlon Time Trial.
750m Free 18 mins, seems to be my average when I have an empty lane, 18:45 when in a group.
Then finished off with some mixed sets. 250 m Back, 250 m Breast, 250 m Back, 250 m Breast
Kick set 50 flutter, 50 whip, 50 dolphin front, 50 dolphin-back ( great Ab Work-out )
100m left shoulder breathing drill as a slow coodown.0 -
Yep. 2 miles in Lake Memphremagog. 2:06.12 It was totally awesome, I was the slowest swimmer at the event and I wanna do it again.0
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NoelFigart1 wrote: »Yep. 2 miles in Lake Memphremagog. 2:06.12 It was totally awesome, I was the slowest swimmer at the event and I wanna do it again.
Attitude!! Great it is.
Its not where you placed, its that you finished and accomplished a goal.1 -
Awesome!!! You have been such a quiet inspiration to me!NoelFigart1 wrote: »Yep. 2 miles in Lake Memphremagog. 2:06.12 It was totally awesome, I was the slowest swimmer at the event and I wanna do it again. 0 -
MsJ's workout, and then aquafitness class. Funny how MFP overestimates calorie burns except aquatints, lol. These instructors follow our lead, and they have said that when they see us working hard, it motivates them to challenge us more. There were way more than 150 calories burned in that 55 minute class.0
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10 minutes breaststroke kickboard, 37 minutes front crawl pull bouy, 15 minutes backstroke closed fist ...
4 sprint laps (100m)
It is a little tiring, but I am also moving much slower. I think if I were trying to do it and maintain speed it would be exhausting ...but I'm trying really hard to find ways to up my workout without watching the clock or counting ...mpeters1965 wrote: »Stephen - I've never swam with a closed fist except as a drill, 50 or a 100 yds at a time. Is it tiring doing it for that long?
I actually find the pull buoy laps to be more difficult. Trying to figure out where/how to situate the buoy so I get the right level of buoyancy for my legs. (Doesn't help that I am using a water aerobic float weight instead of a real pull buoy). I also realized today how much that flutter kick stabilized me in the front crawl. I felt like I was rolling and swaying all over the place today without it.0 -
Warm up, kick w/fins, 45 minutes continuous swim, and then some 50 sprints thrown in for good measure.0
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stephenrhinton wrote: »I actually find the pull buoy laps to be more difficult. Trying to figure out where/how to situate the buoy so I get the right level of buoyancy for my legs. (Doesn't help that I am using a water aerobic float weight instead of a real pull buoy). I also realized today how much that flutter kick stabilized me in the front crawl. I felt like I was rolling and swaying all over the place today without it.
Swimming with a buoy can be more difficult for sure. You really have to use your core muscles to keep yourself stabilized rather than depending on your kick, as you have found. You have to find the sweet spot between some rotation to help streamline your body through the water and not imitating a canoe about to flip over. I am a really buoyant person and so it doesn't much matter where I put the buoy. I swear I could almost go without one. Don't have to worry too much about drowning but trying to get underwater can be challenging.
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Only one swim last week. Hopefully this week I'm back to my usual routine!girlwithcurls2 wrote: »I went to do my laps and then my aquafitness class, but I've been falling down tired lately. I think it's a combination of working out a lot during a busy and stressful time at work. Now I've got a couple of weeks off, so my body is screaming that it all caught up to me. I ended up skipping the class and swimming laps. I decided to forgo the planned workout and just do whatever felt right. Ended up swimming about an hour, maybe a little more. Some things felt difficult, others better. One thing I have been trying to do is slow down so that I'm not so winded. I feel like I get into a rhythm with a strong pull and wear myself out. For the first time, I tried to just swim slowly (as I assume a cool down swim would be) to see if I could keep going. It felt good, but I wondered if there is much of a workout in that? Then again, if I kept going and going, eventually it would be a workout, and my guess is that as I warmed up, I would eventually get back to a stronger pull...
Good job curls. Easy does it!2400SCM
Masters Group
First swim in 10 days due to a chest infection, and first since MRI results.
Please excuse/ignore the P (pain) ratings - they are for my reference to track which sets cause what degree of pain so I can liaise with coach etc and have some information for orthopaedic surgeon when he reviews me in six weeks.
Pre swim P2
200 free P2
100 back P1
100 br P1
4x
100 free kick
100 br kick
2x 25 swim/run
100 free easy P1
100 free moderate P1
25 free left arm P1 but not good feel for water
25 free right arm P0
100 free fast P3
200 br P0
200 free as alternate fast/easy P3
100 back as alternate fast/easy P0
100 fly as alternate fast/easy P4
50 easy
Pain ratings! Wow. Hope you work through the issue!!!juliet3455 wrote: »Yesterdays Swim that I forgot to log. Another Sprint Triathlon Time Trial.
750m Free 18 mins, seems to be my average when I have an empty lane, 18:45 when in a group.
Then finished off with some mixed sets. 250 m Back, 250 m Breast, 250 m Back, 250 m Breast
Kick set 50 flutter, 50 whip, 50 dolphin front, 50 dolphin-back ( great Ab Work-out )
100m left shoulder breathing drill as a slow coodown.
Good job Juliet!NoelFigart1 wrote: »Yep. 2 miles in Lake Memphremagog. 2:06.12 It was totally awesome, I was the slowest swimmer at the event and I wanna do it again.
Fantastic work Noel. Isn't that your longest swim ever. Great job. Glad you finally did it! Wow!
Yep those calorie calculation things can be tricky and misleading!girlwithcurls2 wrote: »MsJ's workout, and then aquafitness class. Funny how MFP overestimates calorie burns except aquatints, lol. These instructors follow our lead, and they have said that when they see us working hard, it motivates them to challenge us more. There were way more than 150 calories burned in that 55 minute class.
I need to start doing some of those closed fist drills!stephenrhinton wrote: »10 minutes breaststroke kickboard, 37 minutes front crawl pull bouy, 15 minutes backstroke closed fist ...
4 sprint laps (100m)
It is a little tiring, but I am also moving much slower. I think if I were trying to do it and maintain speed it would be exhausting ...but I'm trying really hard to find ways to up my workout without watching the clock or counting ...mpeters1965 wrote: »Stephen - I've never swam with a closed fist except as a drill, 50 or a 100 yds at a time. Is it tiring doing it for that long?
I actually find the pull buoy laps to be more difficult. Trying to figure out where/how to situate the buoy so I get the right level of buoyancy for my legs. (Doesn't help that I am using a water aerobic float weight instead of a real pull buoy). I also realized today how much that flutter kick stabilized me in the front crawl. I felt like I was rolling and swaying all over the place today without it.
Good job! Long swim and sprints!panhandle8 wrote: »Warm up, kick w/fins, 45 minutes continuous swim, and then some 50 sprints thrown in for good measure.mpeters1965 wrote: »stephenrhinton wrote: »I actually find the pull buoy laps to be more difficult. Trying to figure out where/how to situate the buoy so I get the right level of buoyancy for my legs. (Doesn't help that I am using a water aerobic float weight instead of a real pull buoy). I also realized today how much that flutter kick stabilized me in the front crawl. I felt like I was rolling and swaying all over the place today without it.
Swimming with a buoy can be more difficult for sure. You really have to use your core muscles to keep yourself stabilized rather than depending on your kick, as you have found. You have to find the sweet spot between some rotation to help streamline your body through the water and not imitating a canoe about to flip over. I am a really buoyant person and so it doesn't much matter where I put the buoy. I swear I could almost go without one. Don't have to worry too much about drowning but trying to get underwater can be challenging.
Like the closed fist drills, need to finally get a pull buoy. Left it too long!
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~15 minutes breast stroke, ~25 minutes front crawl kickboard, ~20 minutes backstroke pull buoy
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Went with my 10 yr old today. He worked on bilateral breathing and I worked on completing laps as he interrupted me...Needless to say, I didn't get much swimming done. 0
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Swimming with a closed fist is going to be slower because you're not getting that extra pull from the upped hand. It's designed to help you learn to get resistance along the length of the arm, which will help create a more powerful pull in conjunction with the cupped hand. Don't compare your speed doing it with your regular freestyle, just like you wouldn't with a kicking drill, instead use those lengths to concentrate on the purpose of the drill - learn the feel of getting that resistance along the whole arm.....0
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stephenrhinton wrote: »10 minutes breaststroke kickboard, 37 minutes front crawl pull bouy, 15 minutes backstroke closed fist ... 4 sprint laps (100m)
It is a little tiring, but I am also moving much slower.
I actually find the pull buoy laps to be more difficult. (Doesn't help that I am using a water aerobic float weight instead of a real pull buoy). I also realized today how much that flutter kick stabilized me in the front crawl. I felt like I was rolling and swaying all over the place today without it.
I have never seen anyone do that much closed fist work - Good on you.
If I use a Pull Buoy on Back Stroke I tend to Roll and Wander around the Lane so I know exactly what you mean.
As Mac saidSwimming with a closed fist is going to be slower because you're not getting that extra pull from the upped hand. It's designed --- to help you learn the feel of getting that resistance along the whole arm.....
@Stephen and @AquaticQuests - Check out swimoutlet.com an online shop for swim gear and I am sure you can get a reasonable priced pull buoy there that will be better than what you are using. AQ not sure if they have an equivalent in your corner of the globe but its worth a try,AquaticQuests wrote: »Only one swim last week. Hopefully this week I'm back to my usual routine! Like the closed fist drills, need to finally get a pull buoy. Left it too long!
Breast Stroke Day 750m breast, 250m free, 250 back, 50 free sprint, 200 left shoulder breathing w fins.
Slowly getting better on the Bi-lateral breathing.
I must be doing something right because I have had some new swimmers ask me for pointers. I usually point at one of the LG's - most (70-80%) of our LG's are trained as swim instructor's so they are all ways willing to give a pointer about technique.0 -
I got a decent pull buoy off of eBay for a good price a few years ago, try there also.....
Taking the extra couple of days off was exactly what the doctor ordered, usually when I do that I can feel the layoff but I was nice & strong today. All freestyle: 250, 500, 1000, 1500, 1500, 1000, 500, 250 yards in 114 minutes......0 -
I believe my pull buoy was $4.xx on swimoutlet.com0
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65 minutes, 2050m. I spent the whole time concentrating on the one change my coach suggested (changing the rotation of my hand as it exits the water). I feel like I just did push-ups for an hour.0
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A bit of a rush today - so just 25 mins. Not sure on lengths as I used the lap counter, but kept on forgetting to press it.
Bizarre tightness across my chest that had me really puzzled - til I remembered I was at a barn dance Saturday night, and we were doing the basket (ie your arms take your entire body weight, whilst spinning around)...
It was fun to be dancing, and my aerobic fitness was just fine thanks to the swimming!1 -
18 minutes closed fist breast stroke, 44 minutes front crawl0
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Had a Flying Trip to Edmonton today for work. Did a combination run and swim at the Kinsmen Park ( 1976 Commonwealth Games ) area. Did the 5 km Emily Murphy park/River Valley Rd Loop.
Loved the South side run thru the trees along the river on the Gravel bush trail.
Then went into the Kinsmen pool ( 50m ) and did a very slow 700m of mixed free/breast/back.
Just didn't have any legs left after running ( to many little hills along the river bank ).
Really understand why Triathlons are Swim Bike Run.0
