Stage 1

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  • Fr3shStrt
    Fr3shStrt Posts: 349 Member
    kat: you made great progress in stage 1. Congrats!

    Daisy: I had that problem too with the cramping of the hand. I was able to finish my sets, I'm hoping my hands strengthen as the rest of me does.
  • KatLifter
    KatLifter Posts: 1,314 Member
    kat: you made great progress in stage 1. Congrats!

    Daisy: I had that problem too with the cramping of the hand. I was able to finish my sets, I'm hoping my hands strengthen as the rest of me does.

    Me too on the grips. It slowed my progress on the heavier deadlifts. I also started using barbells for lunges and step ups so I could increase my weights without being stalled by my grips.
  • jcjsjones
    jcjsjones Posts: 571 Member
    JCJS - great work on your squat. Last week I realized that early morning I can't do math so I loaded the bar to 115 instead of 105, and I did it!

    I'm also starting stage 2 on Thursday and I'm a little worried. It's great we'll be starting at the same time!

    That is so great!! Way to go!! It will be nice to have someone to move on with. I'm hearing some horror stories..lol!
  • lcuconley
    lcuconley Posts: 734 Member
    Kat - great job!! Come meet me in stage 2!

    Daisy - was it on your step ups? Make sure to grasp the dumb bells as tightly as you can to avoid your hand opening, if possible.
  • jcjsjones
    jcjsjones Posts: 571 Member
    hello

    I did S1A4 today...was meant to do that one Saturday but I was too tired to do it before work as I was out the night before...

    It was great at the gym today...Really quiet!

    I had a problem with my grip today...i think...my left hand hurt when i was holding the weight...kind of as if my palm was cramping...does that mean my grip is too weak? If so what can I do?

    Looking forward to my next workout as I will be half way then...

    Hey, Daisy! I have the same issue with my lunges. My issue is that I have very weak wrists and carpel tunnel in my left. I've only been able to get to #25 in each hand, and by my last rep my left wrist and forearm are shaking. Using my gloves has helped keep my grip.
  • jcjsjones
    jcjsjones Posts: 571 Member
    Hit my last goal for Stage 1 and hit 105# on my deadlift!! Woohoo!!! One my day left and I move on to Stage 2!! :drinker:

    Happy lifting, Ladies!!
  • Rogiefreida
    Rogiefreida Posts: 567 Member
    jcjs--congrats on hitting your goal! And congrats to those moving on to stage 2...

    I am doing S1B2 tonight, hoping it goes better than last weeks. With my lymph drainage problems, I forgot to do my manual massage before lifting and my grip in my right hand was non-existant when doing my deadlifts, even with gloves! :sad: My fault though. Tonight I'll try doing my exercises my PT gave me and see if they help with my grip issues. My left hand can hang on all day long, so hopefully I can get the right hand on board so i can finish my reps.

    Sunday when I did Workout A, my husband watched me do prone jack knifes and then tried to do it himself. Needless to say, he has a whole new respect for my ability to not fall over when I do them. :bigsmile:
  • beckkotsch
    beckkotsch Posts: 482 Member
    Today was my last day of stage 1!! Woohoo! See you all in Stage 2!
  • Nefetete
    Nefetete Posts: 343 Member
    Hi All,

    I am going to start in a week & going over specific exercise this week to learn form, mainly the prone jackknife. A few questions and would appreciate your input, for those of you who were doing lifts prior to starting NROL4W, how much did you have to decrease the weight to start stage 1 to allow for the higher reps or did you skip the higher reps altogether? . For example, I do stronglift 5sets X 5reps X 100# for squats. Now I realize I can't do that weight for 15 reps, do I half it and then increase it up as the program suggest. Just want to get a feel what everyone's experience was and if you saw additional gains.

    There is no machine for Wide-grip lat pulldown at my gym :( any suggestions for an alternative wo.

    For the "special wo", to complete same exercise for 1 set AMREP. Does this start on day 1 or is this once stage 1 is completed to determine gains in endurance.

    Thanks
  • jo_marnes
    jo_marnes Posts: 1,601 Member
    Hi everyone,

    I am now halfway through stage 1 - has gone quickly! I am adjusting to lifting more than my bodyweight, doing better than expected in some areas and not so well in others! I am a bit over lunges and step ups though! Am I doing it right? I end up doing 4 sets of 12 on each leg at the moment. It's not that many really, just seems to take an awful long time sometimes, haha xxx
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Nefetete - I am not sure what to advise you on your first question about whether to lower your weights. On the lat pull they give an alternative in the book with dumbells. Lay on your back with the dumbbells held straight up over your chest, then lower them backwards so then your arms are parallel to the floor. The special workouts with as many reps as you can is after you finish stage 1. I have read around here that not everyone does them.

    Jo - on the step ups, I do all one leg first, then all the other leg in the set, I don't alternate legs. It is two sets working both legs in each set though, not one set right leg and one set left.
  • Nefetete
    Nefetete Posts: 343 Member
    Nefetete - I am not sure what to advise you on your first question about whether to lower your weights. On the lat pull they give an alternative in the book with dumbells. Lay on your back with the dumbbells held straight up over your chest, then lower them backwards so then your arms are parallel to the floor. The special workouts with as many reps as you can is after you finish stage 1. I have read around here that not everyone does them.

    Thanks, I don't remember seeing a suggestion as an alternative for Lat pulldowns, will have to check the book again. I was thinking bend-over BB row but if there is an alternative will go with that instead.
  • jo_marnes
    jo_marnes Posts: 1,601 Member
    I do the following:

    Squat
    Pushup
    Seated row
    Pushup
    Seated row
    Step up (R & L)
    Prone jack knife
    Step up (R & L)
    Prone jack knife..... and then repeat from the top. Is that right?
  • Daisy80
    Daisy80 Posts: 755 Member
    Hi ladies

    Thank you very much for all your input with my grip issue. The weight wasn't even that heavy. I think it was only 12lbs. I know issue today with 10lbs. I will definitely grip tighter. I was never sure if I should sort of let it hang in my hand or properly grab it :-)

    I will hold it tighter.

    Did S1B4 today! Half way! Yay! I do agree with Jo_marnes it went bu fast! Looking forward to the second half as I did really like the 3 sets.

    I increased my weight on the deadlifts I was never sure on my form before but had a session with a personal trainer last week and he said my form was spot on...I was really proud :-) so today I felt comfortable to increase. I think I will be able to increase again in the next workout.

    I am feeling so much better already. I have weighed or measured since I started but I feel a bit less wobbly..ha ha...
  • lcuconley
    lcuconley Posts: 734 Member
    I do the following:

    Squat
    Pushup
    Seated row
    Pushup
    Seated row
    Step up (R & L)
    Prone jack knife
    Step up (R & L)
    Prone jack knife..... and then repeat from the top. Is that right?

    no, you do 3 sets of the squats. then push-up/seated row 3 times. then step up/PJK 3 times.

    on your other question on the step-ups/lunges, is your step high enough/are you getting low enough? what weight are you using?
  • PBsMommy
    PBsMommy Posts: 1,166 Member
    Hey ladies!

    I am starting Stage 1 on Monday.... Can't wait!

    Just out of curiosity, I have a few questions:

    What weight did you start out for everything? Would you do it different if you starting again? We have a 45lb Olympic bar and I was planning on starting the barbell exercises off with that. As far as the dumbbell exercises I am at a loss. I have a set of 8 lb dumbbells I can do about everything with that I was planning on using at first. But I don't know if I should bump that down to 5lbs or bump it up to 10lbs.

    Did ya'll use the calorie recommendations in the book or do you use the TDEE formula?

    For those of ya'll who did cardio before lifting, did you continue adding cardio in there? Did you keep the same routine or did you drop the time spent down a bit?
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    You start with the amount that you think you can lift the required # of repetitions to failure, meaning you would have a hard time pushing yourself to do one more. The first time you lift, you really have a hard time guessing that. So, after you try it the first set, if it was too easy, then put some more weight on for the second set. These numbers are going to be different for everyone.

    When I increase weights, I add 5 or 10 pounds at a time generally, depending on what exercise it is for and how easy it was last time.

    I think I started with 5 pounds on the dumbbells but quickly went up to 10 because 5 was too easy.

    Edit: I forgot to address your question about calories and cardio. I upped my calories a bit based on the numbers in the book, but I only eat to the top limit of calories on lifting days, I eat less on lifting days, and I'm not doing any other cardio right now. I'm getting pretty good results with no cardio, and I don't really like it so that is working out well for me.
  • Fr3shStrt
    Fr3shStrt Posts: 349 Member
    Is anybody getting results from doing just 2 days a week? I had every intention of doing 3 days a week but it just isn't happening. I don't have access to a gym on weekends so I'm thinking I may just lift on Tuesdays and Thursdays and then run or something that doesn't require a gym on the weekends.

    Thoughts?
  • Nefetete
    Nefetete Posts: 343 Member
    I'm not officially starting NROLFW yet, but I did go through all the workout yesterday (A&B) to get a feel for the routine and also be comfy at the gym with the new sequence of exercises. Figured out starting weights with upping them gradually and going for 15 reps. Totally recommend doing this if you have the flexibility before starting the program. I also had to go back and re-read the book on how some exercises were done, don't laugh but the one that gave me the hard time was step ups. Kept going back and forth on the height, and weight.

    Anyhow, after yesterday I know I am going to love stage 1 :bigsmile: can't wait !!!
  • KatLifter
    KatLifter Posts: 1,314 Member
    You start with the amount that you think you can lift the required # of repetitions to failure, meaning you would have a hard time pushing yourself to do one more.

    I thought it said in the book that you shouldn't be pushing yourself hard enough to go to failure. It should be difficult to get the last few reps, but not all the way to failure.
  • PBsMommy
    PBsMommy Posts: 1,166 Member
    deskgrl - Thanks so much for the input! It's not really results from the cardio added to the routine that I am looking for... I have just been doing cardio for so long, I don't know if I could quit cold turkey lol

    Nefetete - I was actually thinking about doing something similar today and some over the weekend... I was going to go through each exercise and find a good starting weight for each.. I was also going to do the AMRAP for each exercise so I can have something to compare to the special workouts at the end of Stage 1.

    I also made notations beside each workout on what page number each exercise was on... I bought the book on my nook and for some reason the page numbers beside each exercise, are not matching up with what page they are actually on... And I know I will have to reference some about correct form.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    You start with the amount that you think you can lift the required # of repetitions to failure, meaning you would have a hard time pushing yourself to do one more.

    I thought it said in the book that you shouldn't be pushing yourself hard enough to go to failure. It should be difficult to get the last few reps, but not all the way to failure.

    Well, I just went back and looked at the book and it says when you start, try to choose weight that you could do a couple of more than the number required. But by the third time you do the workout you want to be at a weight where you cannot do another rep. I had a hard time guessing what weight that might be.
  • Nefetete
    Nefetete Posts: 343 Member
    PBsMommy: great idea to do the AMRAP for each exercise to have a comparison. I have 2 more weeks before starting so I am just playing around for now.
  • KatLifter
    KatLifter Posts: 1,314 Member
    You start with the amount that you think you can lift the required # of repetitions to failure, meaning you would have a hard time pushing yourself to do one more.

    I thought it said in the book that you shouldn't be pushing yourself hard enough to go to failure. It should be difficult to get the last few reps, but not all the way to failure.

    Well, I just went back and looked at the book and it says when you start, try to choose weight that you could do a couple of more than the number required. But by the third time you do the workout you want to be at a weight where you cannot do another rep. I had a hard time guessing what weight that might be.

    Ahh gotcha!
  • jo_marnes
    jo_marnes Posts: 1,601 Member
    I do the following:

    Squat
    Pushup
    Seated row
    Pushup
    Seated row
    Step up (R & L)
    Prone jack knife
    Step up (R & L)
    Prone jack knife..... and then repeat from the top. Is that right?

    no, you do 3 sets of the squats. then push-up/seated row 3 times. then step up/PJK 3 times.

    on your other question on the step-ups/lunges, is your step high enough/are you getting low enough? what weight are you using?

    Whaaat? I'm on week 4.... I do 2 sets of 12 reps. How is it alternate if you don't do one then the other & repeat?

    To answer the other questions, I'm using a bench as my step (knee height) and someone told me the other day I did a 'perfect lunge' so I'm not worried about form. I am currently holding 5kg dumbells... any more than that and my balance is off at the moment. But I'm working on it!
  • Fr3shStrt
    Fr3shStrt Posts: 349 Member
    Today's workout - A5 (woohoo 3@10 rep territory!)

    Squat: 10@45; 10@55; 10@55
    Push Up: Feet elevated (and I had a well meaning and kind stalker suggest I go lower - nose closer to floor so I'm working on that as well)
    Seated Row 10@47.5; 10@50; 10@50
    Step Up 10@30; 10@35; 10@35
    Jack Knife - I only did two sets

    Felt like I was going to pass out at the end. Seriously. My skin was cold but I was sweating. So I know I pushed myself, but perhaps to hard?
  • lcuconley
    lcuconley Posts: 734 Member
    I do the following:

    Squat
    Pushup
    Seated row
    Pushup
    Seated row
    Step up (R & L)
    Prone jack knife
    Step up (R & L)
    Prone jack knife..... and then repeat from the top. Is that right?

    no, you do 3 sets of the squats. then push-up/seated row 3 times. then step up/PJK 3 times.

    on your other question on the step-ups/lunges, is your step high enough/are you getting low enough? what weight are you using?

    Whaaat? I'm on week 4.... I do 2 sets of 12 reps. How is it alternate if you don't do one then the other & repeat?

    To answer the other questions, I'm using a bench as my step (knee height) and someone told me the other day I did a 'perfect lunge' so I'm not worried about form. I am currently holding 5kg dumbells... any more than that and my balance is off at the moment. But I'm working on it!

    sorry if my response was not clear. its:
    Squat (2 sets)
    Pushup (1 set)
    Seated row (1 set)
    Pushup (1 set)
    Seated row (1 set)
    Step up (R)
    Step up (L)
    Prone jack knife
    Step up (R)
    Step up (L)
    Prone jack knife

    sounds like you are doing the step-ups and lunges correctly...what was your question when you said you were: "over on the step-ups and lunges, am I doing it right?"
  • PBsMommy
    PBsMommy Posts: 1,166 Member
    PBsMommy: great idea to do the AMRAP for each exercise to have a comparison. I have 2 more weeks before starting so I am just playing around for now.

    Well instead of taking the AMRAP route, last night I went through each exercise and found the weight were I could do 15 and the last two to three were more difficult, but doable. So technically all my starting reps would be 15, but at an appropriate starting weight. So no guess work next week and I believe it still should be a good comparison to the special workouts at the end...


    Another note - Am I the only weakling that couldn't use more than 10lbs (2 5lbs dumbbells) for the home gym version of the lat pull down?! I tried 16lbs (2 8 lbs) but I could only get about 4 before my arms started screaming the f bomb at me..
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Another note - Am I the only weakling that couldn't use more than 10lbs (2 5lbs dumbbells) for the home gym version of the lat pull down?! I tried 16lbs (2 8 lbs) but I could only get about 4 before my arms started screaming the f bomb at me..

    I don't have my log sheet with me, but I think I started with 5 pound dumbbells, then I went to 10, now I'm at 15 and it is difficult. But I'm nearing the end of stage 1. I like those, I can really feel my obliques when I do it. Don't compare yourself to other people, it might make you discouraged or it might make you push too hard. It's good to challenge yourself, but don't do it based on how much other people are lifting. The comparison is going to be your own gain from workout 1 to workout 8.
  • PBsMommy
    PBsMommy Posts: 1,166 Member
    Another note - Am I the only weakling that couldn't use more than 10lbs (2 5lbs dumbbells) for the home gym version of the lat pull down?! I tried 16lbs (2 8 lbs) but I could only get about 4 before my arms started screaming the f bomb at me..

    I don't have my log sheet with me, but I think I started with 5 pound dumbbells, then I went to 10, now I'm at 15 and it is difficult. But I'm nearing the end of stage 1. I like those, I can really feel my obliques when I do it. Don't compare yourself to other people, it might make you discouraged or it might make you push too hard. It's good to challenge yourself, but don't do it based on how much other people are lifting. The comparison is going to be your own gain from workout 1 to workout 8.

    Oh I completely understand with not comparing to other people. I am not really the type to compete with other people or get jealous, I guess. And I definitely wouldn't push myself to hard. That's actually the opposite of my worries, I am actually afraid I won't push myself hard enough... I had just previously saw people doing 90lbs! I didn't know if they were using the machine at the gym or doing the home gym variation.... I couldn't even fathom doing the 45 Olympic bar we have, let along 90 pounds. Of course my strength has always been in my legs and not my arms...
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