CUT Progress After RESET-Tell us your ups/downs!
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I have a question... I didn't see the issue of reset when I started EM2WL.... I've been eating my BMR plus my excercise. I've lost nothing.. But now I'm wondering if I should be eating more The reset amount would be what??? I just looked on the Scooby calculator and it said my TDEE would be 2408 with a 15 % cut Cal to 2046 my BMR is 1411 ... I've been eating around 1700 cal per day average. .. Is this too low... That's with the workouts and excercising?? Am I supposed to eat around 2400 to reset?? Than cut to 2046 with excercise?
Resetting means eat at your TDEE for a period of 4-8 weeks. However not everyone needs a reset. A lot of people have had success eating right at their cut value and been able to get the scale moving. It s personal choice. You can just go right up to TDE and do a reset for 4 weeks, then take a 10-15% cut and see what happens.. or you can go to your 15% cut now, and hope its enough to get things going. You can always decide to do a reset after if things arent going well.
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Thanks Rayn!!! Yes that helps tremendously!!!0
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today is a much better day for me. I am thinking clearer, feeling better and the scale has dropped all of my water weight from the past few days events. I honestly did not think it would drop that quick since yesterday it was showing a 3 pound gain.. but its all gone this morning and I have a loss compared to last week:)
I took measurements this morning and there were a few that had a very small change, and many stayed the same. It does appear my natural waist took another inch loss, (if I am measuring correctly, of course) and my "belly button" waist has a .25 of an inch change. Hips had a .5 change and thighs are unchanged.
Im pleased there is some progress now, but My measurements still arent back to where they were when I began EMTWL, they are a lot closer though:)0 -
That is so awesome Raynn! Here's to more good days on your horizon! :drinker: :drinker:0
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I am on week 3 of a 15% cut after eating TDEE for about 5 weeks. Before that I was at a plateau for a while and needed a jumpstart. I have to say I loved eating at TDEE - I maintained perfectly (didn't gain or loose anything) and never was hungry and felt comfortable eating all the calories I needed. I upped my protein when I started my cut (40 prot/30 carb/ 30 fat) but still worked out, etc. I have lost 3 lbs in the 3 weeks of my cut! I lost a pound the first week and 2 the second! I couldn't believe it! I am status quo for this week, but I have no problem with that! I have one more week of cut, then I think I will go back and eat at TDEE for a week. I've been using the Hackers Diet site and trending my weight (I weigh every day) and I love all the information it gives me.
I also want to thank everyone here for the information and support! There is no way I would have been brave enough to eat 2100 calories a day without being armed with lots of knowledge!0 -
Yay for you Raynn! I am so glad you are in a better place today and are seeing some of the results of your hard work pay off!
I measured yesterday and had no change, but I had just measured less than 2 weeks ago. I wanted to get measurements right after TOM because I think that is the week I want to measure every month from now on. So I will wait another month now and see where I am.
I feel like I am getting no where on the scale, but my tracking on the Hackers website shows a steady decline, so something is happening. I will re-evaluate that in a month also even though I do weigh daily.
Feeling pretty good about things right now, even though not all my clothes fit like I would like them to or like they did 6 months ago. I just get this feeling that things are happening and changing for the better.0 -
Hi Everyone! So it has been a LONG time since I have checked in. September was a rough month...I just didn't have my head in the game & was starting down the path of eating whatever I wanted (which was more often than not unhealthy choices) and while I was working out, I wasn't pushing myself. I stopped tracking & just went into the "this is so not going to work for me" mode.
BUT I picked myself up and met with the trainer at my gym and had him look at my diet & workout plans. He gave me some tips on my diet - more protein & fat & less carbs. He follows the paleo style of eating which is definitely not sustainable for me in the long-term but I am incorporating some of the ideas into my diet. I am having a tough time making it to my full calories every day but am giving myself some time to get there.
He shook up my workout - I am following a "cross-fit-esque" style work out with building rounds of short bursts of cardio with strength training moves. And I finally learned how to do a dead-lift.
The workouts are shorter and only take about 45 minutes but I am moving the entire time. He has convinced me to try this out for 3 months & then make changes from there so if EM2WL has taught me nothing else - it has taught me to give things time to work. :laugh:
Oh and he took my BF% and it is higher than I thought - 28.8% so that is my measurement that I am going to work on. My goal is to reduce that number & fit in a smaller size. I have these jeans that are going to be my measuring stick....
So...I am still going through the process & figuring out what works best for me. I have finally accepted that this is going to take time & trying a bunch of things and stopped fooling myself that this is a "quick fix". And that I am going to have to change my diet & fitness plan until I figure out that magic place.
Sorry for the long check-in and if you have made it this far - thanks for reading! It has been cleansing to post this. Expect to see me on this post a lot as I think I need some support as I figure it out......0 -
Sounds like things are going well for you carriea! a good solid 3 month plan in place. I understand how hard it is when we want to see change, and its just not coming fast enough. I had to send my pictures to Kiki this week so someone else could show me where there was change, even though I had nothing on the scale or tape measure to show it..
I hope things improve for you!
AFM - doing good. Im at my new cut value, and instead of dropping to 2300 (15% - less 2700) I decided to cut to 2500, since my last few weeks on fitbit have me now over 2900 cal average instead of 2700.. so at least at 2500 there is a deficit of either 200ish, or 400ish:)
Ill give that a good for 4-6 weeks and then reevaluate:)0 -
Hmmm, sounds like we are all in "give it some time and re-evaluate" mode!
@carrie, are your calories still looking about the same with this 3 month plan? Just curious what your trainer had to say about that. Also, I was falling into the same trap you were about eating whatever and doing whatever at the end of summer, but I think I have pulled myself out of it for the most part. I still have my days, but for the most part I am doing well. Yes, keep posting so we can all motivate each other to stick it out for the long haul.
@raynn, I am envious of your calories!!!!! I think I have just convinced myself to re-up my bodybugg account as much as I don't want to, but then there is not so much guessing and waiting and hoping. You are at -15% now, remind me what you were before?
As you can tell by all my questions, I am still tweaking, unsure of myself.0 -
Thanks for the support ladies!
@rayann - I am also jealous of your calories. Do you like your fitbit? I keep going back and forth about getting one and am not sure if it would put me into analysis paralysis with all that data.
@jomatho - my trainer said calories look good. So I am still at 1800 which is about a 10% cut. He actually said - I am so glad that I don't have to convince you to strength train and eat more...he is not a fan of 1200 calorie diets. But frankly not reducing carbs and increasing veggies fills me up but they are such low calories that it's tough. He did say to eat when you are hungry. He's a fan of the basics and keeping it simple.0 -
Lol, I would much rather be eating about 1900-2000 cals, if that meant I was under 200 pounds:)
@jomatho when I first started using the fitbit, my first three weeks gave me a 2700 daily burn... and of course that is when I decided to take a TDEE break, so I jumped up to it (My reset I was eating 2800).. then my next two weeks from fitbit have given me an average of 2900 and 2950 respectively..
So after my initial reset and began cut, I dropped to about 2440 for 15% cut. 7 weeks and maybe hovering the 3 pounds lost. .. jumped up to 2700 for a break, and my first week had me a .6 gain (but TOM had just arrived) and then this week I had a .4 loss. So basically a .2 gain from before I did my break.
So now I am eating at 2500 cals, which is about 200-400 cal deficit. After going through the first round and seeing that at what I thought was my cut, and not really getting results.. then doing a break, and seeing my numbers should be higher, its likely the reason the first time didnt work, is because 2400 cals was TOO LOW for me. ( I think jyska is doing a trial and error with s 250 cal deficit over a larger one right now too..) It was likely a 500-600 cal deficit for me..
WHo knows.. I could totally be talking out of my *kitten*:)0 -
I love my fitbit.. its a pedometer on crack:) It has really made me see just how much higher of a burn I have in a day, much higher than I thought I would be. I was certain that even though I was working out 5 days a week, I was still sedentary:) So it really helped to show me I am in fact at moderately active and "deserve" to be.
I would have taken a Body media fit as well, but I couldnt afford the monthly cost for that as well as the cost for the unit.. my fitbit was actually given to me for my birthday from soem really great friends..
As a side note, my poor fitbit went through the wash this afternoon... I am hoping beyond hope that fitbit will replace it0 -
.... ( I think jyska is doing a trial and error with s 250 cal deficit over a larger one right now too..) It was likely a 500-600 cal deficit for me..
yeah, I have changed my deficit from 650 to 250ish (it ranges from 150 - 400). (so I eat on average anywhere from 2250 - 2650) The first four days were great....lost weight every day. Then TOM hit and I'm waiting it out before I'll have any accurate readings. :grumble:
it's amazing how attached you can become to those fitness thingies....my bmf is like my underwear...I don't go anywhere without wearing it and I'd feel very weird leaving it behind! :laugh:0 -
Hello, time for an update I suppose!
I've been at cut for about 3 1/2 months with zero change in my weight or measurements. :grumble:
It's a hard pill to swallow, but I am seeing increased muscle definition which is a plus.:drinker:
At this point, while the scale is irritating, I'm more focused on the measurements and body fat. I want to cut this layer of fat, so I bought a Fitbit 2 days ago. I'll keep you updated. Good luck everyone.
Hi Everyone,
Congrats to those having success! Way to go.
I wanted to update you guys and let you know I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism........so my ups and downs with EM2WL probably have more to do with that then the program.
I felt like something has been wrong for years, yet was told it was stress related....... So, take care of yourselves and remember you know your body best......listen to it and trust it.
PS still loving the Fitbit
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Well my fitbit came out of the wash, and it was working... slightly. I actually managed to sync it, and it apparently a tumble through the wash is a "high level" calorie burn!:laugh:
it is still very wonky and randomly wont show me anything, so its definitely not 100% working. I threw it in some rice and hopefully that might help.. and fingers are crossed fitbit might help me out..0 -
Hi everyone!
So today marks the end of my 6th week of cut.... and all my measurements are back down to what they were before I did the reset, and my weight is within about one pound. I've lost 5 pounds total. It’s slightly more than it was then because I have actually gained muscle!!! My body fat % is the same, but I weigh about a pound more… meaning I have one extra pound of lean body mass! YAY!
I am soooo happy. Next week I am going to take a diet break, and eat at my TDEE all week. Then I'll keep going... and that'll be the real test: whether or not I'll break through my pre-reset weight that I plateaued at.0 -
Hi everyone thanks for the support about Mum - we're coping much better this week and have eaten to my numbers. I've been teaching her how to eat healthy because it will help her with her treatment and recovery and introduced her to new foods such as pumpkin seeds, blueberries and almonds and eating little and often - not bad for someone who's lived on micro meals and massive plates of pasta for years. I got some wholemeal pasta for her which we might try this week.
Have lost 2.5lbs this week on my 4th week of cut. I'm eating at TDEE this week before starting the cut again 0 -
Glad there is some nice progress going on in here!
I am hoping this week will show a loss for me. God knows I certainly deserve to see one for once.
October is up, and the weather is getting cooler so there will definitely be more gym days in my future. I might bring out Jillian Michaels again for something to do at home on days I dont feel like going. Im interested in trying the Cathe dvds everyone keeps talking about, but I would need to take them to the gym, so Im looking into the downloadable ones. Plus cost is a huge factor so Ill have to see what I can do about it...
After Kiki showed me in my pics where my changes were happening, I have been able to be a little bit more at peace with the extremely slow pace I have been on. Its still hugely frustrating to still not have the scale drop on me, especially being as heavy as I am, but I am working hard to ty and let that feeling go a bit. I know Im doing things the right way and hopefully one day it will all catch up to me..
I hope you are all having a great weekend!0 -
Just finished first week on cut ..... and dropped 3.6lbs!!
Don't quite know how that happened exactly but I'm not going to argue. I'm only on a 15% cut.
Last two days my carbs level didn't even reach 10% and felt good. I wasn't really hungry at any point during the day. I def think it's helping things. (for me anyway)0 -
Hi Everyone!
Congrats on the losses ladies!
And @Raynn - my fingers are crossed about your fitbit. I hope it drys out & gets back to working fully. You have convinced me to order one for myself. Do you wear it while you work-out?
AFM - I am plugging along....my goal this week is to make my calorie goal with healthy choices. I found some veggie soup in the freezer that I am going to start eating along with my salad for lunch. I am still maintaining my 1 pound loss from Friday so yeah! I still need to get on the ball and take some pictures.
I love when the first of the month happens at the beginning of the week...it's like a "fresh" start and I always feel like I can conquer the world. 0 -
wow! some great losses happening! Congrats to you guys!
@carrie, I agree totally about the 1st of the month thing!
AFM, I'm on the tail end of TOM. Between it and camping this weekend (camping = high sodium, high carbs, low protein, a little wine) my scale is up several pounds and my waistline feels pudgy. Needless to say I was not a happy camper getting dressed this morning or by what I saw on the scale. sigh. I feel like it's Detox week now....lol
Anyways, I hope that you all have had a great weekend and that your Monday weigh-ins/measurements are pleasant! Here's to a great October everyone!!0 -
@jyska, I am in your boat this morning. I must be holding about 6 pounds of water, no kidding. I had better be holding 6 pounds of water or I am going to have to hurt something, lol.
Way too much sodium this weekend and not drinking enough, yuck. I feel it in my hands and feet and middle. I should know better, I am about to ovulate this week and I know I tend to hold water this week of the month so I should have been a little better with my food choices. Oh well, live and learn. Hoping it comes off as quickly as it came on.
I renewed my bodybugg subscription, so I am curious to see if I am still burning what I was last winter.
My goals for this month are to continue weight lifting 3 days, some sort of cardio 3 days and to work on my diet (more veggies, enough protein and hopefully the rest will fall into place)0 -
My fitbit actually dried out and works just fine now.. but I already contacted fitbit to see if they would replace, and they are.. so I guess I have a spare one in case I ever wash it again
I love it. It tracks really well and it has shown my TDEE is actually been higher than I thought. I wear it for running and walking activities, but I wear my HRM for weight lifting. It is no good for "stationary" type movements.
Nothing much for me today.. plugging along hoping there is a loss this week for me.0 -
My fitbit actually dried out and works just fine now.. but I already contacted fitbit to see if they would replace, and they are.. so I guess I have a spare one in case I ever wash it again
I love it. It tracks really well and it has shown my TDEE is actually been higher than I thought. I wear it for running and walking activities, but I wear my HRM for weight lifting. It is no good for "stationary" type movements.
Nothing much for me today.. plugging along hoping there is a loss this week for me.
By the way, I did end up having some issue with MFP and my fitbit...the past week is WAY over estimating my fitbit adjustment. By like 800 cals a day. It's working again now but tons of people were having this issue too.0 -
My fitbit actually dried out and works just fine now.. but I already contacted fitbit to see if they would replace, and they are.. so I guess I have a spare one in case I ever wash it again
I love it. It tracks really well and it has shown my TDEE is actually been higher than I thought. I wear it for running and walking activities, but I wear my HRM for weight lifting. It is no good for "stationary" type movements.
Nothing much for me today.. plugging along hoping there is a loss this week for me.
By the way, I did end up having some issue with MFP and my fitbit...the past week is WAY over estimating my fitbit adjustment. By like 800 cals a day. It's working again now but tons of people were having this issue too.
I saw that in the tech thread. seems the adjustments have been crazy for a bit. Last I checked my issue still wasnt fixed with the double counting of cals from MFP, but they were close to fixing..
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Hi everyone. I wish I had some good news but I do not. I sucessfully completed a 10 week reset eating at 2500 calories. Throughout the reset, I gained 2 pounds but then quickly maintained on 2500 calories. Upon completion of the reset, I initially cut 10% (2250). At 10%, I lost nothing. I then cut to 15% (2125) and still lost nothing. I am now at a 20% cut (2000) and am still not losing. It does not make any sense that I could maintain my weight perfectly at 2500 calories but cannot lose anything when I cut 10,15 or 20%. I had complete faith in EMTWL and am now begning to question it. I do not want to go back to Weight Watchers... I was cranky and completely obsessed with food. I really need some help with this
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Hi everyone. I wish I had some good news but I do not. I sucessfully completed a 10 week reset eating at 2500 calories. Throughout the reset, I gained 2 pounds but then quickly maintained on 2500 calories. Upon completion of the reset, I initially cut 10% (2250). At 10%, I lost nothing. I then cut to 15% (2125) and still lost nothing. I am now at a 20% cut (2000) and am still not losing. It does not make any sense that I could maintain my weight perfectly at 2500 calories but cannot lose anything when I cut 10,15 or 20%. I had complete faith in EMTWL and am now begning to question it. I do not want to go back to Weight Watchers... I was cranky and completely obsessed with food. I really need some help with this Thank you for any help.
This is actually quite normal. Some people take up to 6 - 8 weeks before they see a scale loss (and some even longer). However there are several factors at play here too.
1. are you lifting?
2. are you measuring?
3. are you watching your macros?
4. is your deficit too big?
5. are you taking pictures each month?
Scale weight when lifting is really counterproductive. Many people are finding that their body shape is changing (myself personally) but that the scale weight doesn't change or it actually increases by a few pounds. Someone on my friends list this morning just recorded a 3 inch loss over her body, but a 3lb gain on the scale. People see inches lost...scale weight is secondary.
I personally have not lost any weight since going to cut about 2 months ago, but I have lost a few inches and my body shape is changing (proof in the pics I take each month). Make sure you take those pics! :flowerforyou:0 -
Hi everyone. I wish I had some good news but I do not. I sucessfully completed a 10 week reset eating at 2500 calories. Throughout the reset, I gained 2 pounds but then quickly maintained on 2500 calories. Upon completion of the reset, I initially cut 10% (2250). At 10%, I lost nothing. I then cut to 15% (2125) and still lost nothing. I am now at a 20% cut (2000) and am still not losing. It does not make any sense that I could maintain my weight perfectly at 2500 calories but cannot lose anything when I cut 10,15 or 20%. I had complete faith in EMTWL and am now begning to question it. I do not want to go back to Weight Watchers... I was cranky and completely obsessed with food. I really need some help with this Thank you for any help.
This is actually quite normal. Some people take up to 6 - 8 weeks before they see a scale loss (and some even longer). However there are several factors at play here too.
1. are you lifting?
2. are you measuring?
3. are you watching your macros?
4. is your deficit too big?
5. are you taking pictures each month?
Scale weight when lifting is really counterproductive. Many people are finding that their body shape is changing (myself personally) but that the scale weight doesn't change or it actually increases by a few pounds. Someone on my friends list this morning just recorded a 3 inch loss over her body, but a 3lb gain on the scale. People see inches lost...scale weight is secondary.
I personally have not lost any weight since going to cut about 2 months ago, but I have lost a few inches and my body shape is changing (proof in the pics I take each month). Make sure you take those pics! :flowerforyou:
Thank you so much for your response!
1. are you lifting? I lift 3 days a week (25 min each session) and do about 40 min Cardio 6 days a week (I mainly do the cardio so I can eat more calories.. gives me between 300 and 400 extra per day)
2. are you measuring? I have been taking measurements and there has been no change
3. are you watching your macros? All macros are good
4. is your deficit too big? I was not losing even when my defict was smaller (10%)
5. are you taking pictures each month? I take a lot of pictures. There has been no change except a little more arm definition and more visibile abdominal muscles.
I would be happy if at least my measurements were decreasing but they are not. Why do you think it take so long to see a loss on the scale? If I do weight watchers, I lose the first week?0 -
Thank you so much for your response!
1. are you lifting? I lift 3 days a week (25 min each session) and do about 40 min Cardio 6 days a week (I mainly do the cardio so I can eat more calories.. gives me between 300 and 400 extra per day)
2. are you measuring? I have been taking measurements and there has been no change
3. are you watching your macros? All macros are good
4. is your deficit too big? I was not losing even when my defict was smaller (10%)
5. are you taking pictures each month? I take a lot of pictures. There has been no change except a little more arm definition and more visibile abdominal muscles.
I would be happy if at least my measurements were decreasing but they are not. Why do you think it take so long to see a loss on the scale? If I do weight watchers, I lose the first week?
One thing that stands out is the fact that you are seeing more arm definition and ab definition!!! Those are changes! There are several people I know on here that see changes without inches moving at all....our bodies are funny that way. It sounds to me like you are having success...you are just using too big of a measuring stick right now. :flowerforyou:
the reason Weight Watchers or other low cal diets see losses on the scale so easily is because you lose fat, lean muscle and water. With what you are doing now, you are 're-balancing' everything and focusing mostly on fat loss. This may cause inches and scale to show very little change but you are seeing changes in your pics. That is success in my opinion. :happy:0 -
Thank you! I guess I just have to continue having patience with myself. I am so tempted just to start eating my TDEE again if eating at a cut is not causing weight loss ( I miss 2500)0
