ADD, and the next better thing to come along...
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Personally in my experience, I've seen that the more a woman can bring to the table, the less options she has. Men don't want to work hard for the women who are successful or are educated. If they find an option that is easier to obtain or the standards are lower, they will go there. To draw back to the original poster, sex is so easy to get. If one woman doesn't have sex with a man within 1-3 dates, he probably can find about 5 that will within a click of a mouse. Barely anyone waits until they are in a committed relationship to have sex, thus, it makes it difficult for other women to date the same men, in general.0
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Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.
Some? Perhaps. But aggressors? Hardly. I have seen just as much guys who weren't as I have guys who were.0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.
Some? Perhaps. But aggressors? Hardly. I have seen just as much guys who weren't as I have guys who were.
You are probably right but I think most women would want to date a man who isn't scared to approach them.0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.
No,she asserted that men expect to be chased,to say that meant no one will chase her is a vast over reading of it.
I have not seen her respond to anything actually.0 -
I don't think I have read in your short paragraph any good reason why you expect these men to chase you (as opposed to other women).Guys are so conditioned anymore that they will find yet another girl to date on FB, POF, Match or wherever.
Am I the only gal to feel GUYS expect WOMEN to chase them now?
What is UP with that???
Yes, it is true that there are other women out there competing for the same men as you (* GASP *) and that if the said men find the attitude of the other woman more attractive he will (generally) go for the other woman.
I personally find there is enough supply of interesting women through all the channels you mentioned so there is no particular need indeed to go overboard with a specific woman. It's a free market.
Ok I love you now have a beer on me lol:drinker:
For every women out there complaining that guys cant settle down and are always looking for the next best thing there are 5 guys settling down or wanting to get serious. I'm not saying anyone is ugly . We all know top tier people(male and female) get all the attention they want. I know plenty of people who also get lots of attention and aren't top tier. Its a multitude of factors. Confidence, area, the way you dress, the way you project yourself and where you go out. Also remember the seasons have alot to do with it too.I know many a male and female who won't date anyone around Christmas / New years because it implies an increased Intimacy.But I hate to say it, it can't always be the opposite sexes fault. If you are constantly having the same issues in regardes to relationships/dating maybe looking at yourself and the way you react to people may help. Remember the one ladies profile who kept getting hit on by all the creepers. She didn't see the issues until we helped her rewrite it and now no creepers. SOmetime the problem is us even if we dont want to hear it *ducks * :smokin:0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.
Some? Perhaps. But aggressors? Hardly. I have seen just as much guys who weren't as I have guys who were.
You are probably right but I think most women would want to date a man who isn't scared to approach them.
Going to play devil's advocate here and say that the same could be true if the genders were reversed.0 -
Can we please define " top-tier?"0
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Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.
No,she asserted that men expect to be chased,to say that meant no one will chase her is a vast over reading of it.
I have not seen her respond to anything actually.
I did misquote her but to be fair my post still wrings truth. To respond, DM did say "well if you're hot, men will chase you."0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.
No,she asserted that men expect to be chased,to say that meant no one will chase her is a vast over reading of it.
I have not seen her respond to anything actually.
I did misquote her but to be fair my post still wrings truth. To respond, DM did say "well if you're hot, men will chase you."
Well to be fair if your hot men will chase you lol....but every man has different definition of hot. Not liking the truth doesn't make it not the truth0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.
No,she asserted that men expect to be chased,to say that meant no one will chase her is a vast over reading of it.
I have not seen her respond to anything actually.
I did misquote her but to be fair my post still wrings truth. To respond, DM did say "well if you're hot, men will chase you."
His entire statement was in regards to a post of regional differences and I am quite sure top tier guys get their fair share of chasing as was also stated by some here.
Bottom line is meh...so what,does it make my life any better or worse?
The answer is no unless I am determined to let it.0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.
No,she asserted that men expect to be chased,to say that meant no one will chase her is a vast over reading of it.
I have not seen her respond to anything actually.
I did misquote her but to be fair my post still wrings truth. To respond, DM did say "well if you're hot, men will chase you."
His entire statement was in regards to a post of regional differences and I am quite sure top tier guys get their fair share of chasing as was also stated by some here.
Bottom line is meh...so what,does it make my life any better or worse?
The answer is no unless I am determined to let it.
Can we get the beating a dead horse emoji here?0 -
I hate this mentality.
I'm not a f*cking tennis ball in a game of fetch. I'm a person. No one needs to chase anything, it's unhealthy. When it comes to dating it's about making the things that are best about YOU known. Yeah, we get the girls that DM and Mike like so much getting hit on, and then there are girls that aren't models for a living. If you don't have the Victoria's Secret gig to fall back on, go talk to people. Show your personality. Be funny. Be witty. Sharp.
Then, geez, while you're talking to someone, some cute guy might start talking back. Oh, he's funny too. Wow, that comment was really insightful. Hey, we should hang out.
I know I talked in the past about "I see what I want and I go get it" because I do have that mentality. Sometimes it doesn't work (he could be uninterested, already have a girlfriend, whatever), but so what? No skin off my teeth. But the point is that the actual "chasing" part is minimal and some of you guys are being super whiny about it. Put on your big girl panties and go score a dude, if that's what you want.
I know I've used the "life isn't fair" argument before, but let's be clear. That was an argument about BIOLOGY and control about the body. In this day and age we have women that are willing to start the conversations, women that are willing to approach, women that are willing to split drink tabs OR EVEN JUST BUY HIM A DRINK. Keep up or get left in the dust.
There are going to be guys who lose interest in a girl once she pursues - pshaw, insecure losers in my opinion. If it makes someone feel less manly because I'm not acting in some archaic definition of feminine then he can slap nuts and get the next best option.
I'm not going around following hot dudes, either. If he's not interested or playing hard to get I move on. The point is to find the least amount of "pursuit". The best relationships happen naturally, you fit together, you aren't constantly running after another person. That's just ego stroking games for people who care more about the chase than long term happiness anyway.0 -
i could be wrong, but top tier is subjective.
what i find attractive you might not be interested in at all.
so, my top tier is different than yours.
again, i could be wrong ;-)Can we please define " top-tier?"0 -
There are going to be guys who lose interest in a girl once she pursues - pshaw, insecure losers in my opinion. If it makes someone feel less manly because I'm not acting in some archaic definition of feminine then he can slap nuts and get the next best option.
Keep in mind, I usually make first moves simply because I understand that, that is my current reality in the social world.
However, I am glad that some women out there recognize the fact that these age old gender roles should be abolished across the board.0 -
i could be wrong, but top tier is subjective.
what i find attractive you might not be interested in at all.
so, my top tier is different than yours.
again, i could be wrong ;-)Can we please define " top-tier?"
I agree, it's entirely subjective. But I think if you're looking for an example, someone like Megan Fox or Channjng Tatum or equivalent good looks is top tier.0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
***Points to a chair and hands Carl a beer***0 -
i could be wrong, but top tier is subjective.
what i find attractive you might not be interested in at all.
so, my top tier is different than yours.
again, i could be wrong ;-)Can we please define " top-tier?"
From the male POV, top tier is top tier. It's not subjective at all. Men know when they see it.0 -
I hate this mentality.
I'm not a f*cking tennis ball in a game of fetch. I'm a person. No one needs to chase anything, it's unhealthy. When it comes to dating it's about making the things that are best about YOU known. Yeah, we get the girls that DM and Mike like so much getting hit on, and then there are girls that aren't models for a living. If you don't have the Victoria's Secret gig to fall back on, go talk to people. Show your personality. Be funny. Be witty. Sharp.
Then, geez, while you're talking to someone, some cute guy might start talking back. Oh, he's funny too. Wow, that comment was really insightful. Hey, we should hang out.
I know I talked in the past about "I see what I want and I go get it" because I do have that mentality. Sometimes it doesn't work (he could be uninterested, already have a girlfriend, whatever), but so what? No skin off my teeth. But the point is that the actual "chasing" part is minimal and some of you guys are being super whiny about it. Put on your big girl panties and go score a dude, if that's what you want.
I know I've used the "life isn't fair" argument before, but let's be clear. That was an argument about BIOLOGY and control about the body. In this day and age we have women that are willing to start the conversations, women that are willing to approach, women that are willing to split drink tabs OR EVEN JUST BUY HIM A DRINK. Keep up or get left in the dust.
There are going to be guys who lose interest in a girl once she pursues - pshaw, insecure losers in my opinion. If it makes someone feel less manly because I'm not acting in some archaic definition of feminine then he can slap nuts and get the next best option.
I'm not going around following hot dudes, either. If he's not interested or playing hard to get I move on. The point is to find the least amount of "pursuit". The best relationships happen naturally, you fit together, you aren't constantly running after another person. That's just ego stroking games for people who care more about the chase than long term happiness anyway.
Wow...I love you! This hit home so much! I wish I could be as open towards men as you. I am naturally introverted and shy, so I am always hesitant to get what I want including men. People are always surprised that I am not married yet, but its been a learning process in the dating world. I recently dated someone briefly who was emotionally immature/unavailable and decided to run away once I started to have interest towards him. He went from hot to cold within a WEEK leaving me confused that I messed up the "relationship." After much reflection I realize it was only a game to him. He had no plans of actually keeping me around for a relationship even though I expressed desire to be in one, but he loved pursuing me to stroke his ego then I became useless to him once he "won."
There should not be games played as you mentioned. If two people are attracted to each other, they should let feelings develop naturally. That's why i hate these dating "rules" about when to call or not pick up your phone. If I like someone, I will pick up my phone and SOMETIMES agree to a last minute date. It doesn't make me eager or desperate. It makes me emotionally available and open to a new experience. If I have to chase a man, then I have zero interest. If the feelings are not mutual, then he can keep it walking and I will do the same!0 -
Chasing is for dogs and cars. People don't chase or they shouldn't. Games are for children, not grown-ups. Dating is only as difficult as you make it or let the other person make it. Why is this so hard to understand0
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i could be wrong, but top tier is subjective.
what i find attractive you might not be interested in at all.
so, my top tier is different than yours.
again, i could be wrong ;-)Can we please define " top-tier?"
I agree, it's entirely subjective. But I think if you're looking for an example, someone like Megan Fox or Channjng Tatum or equivalent good looks is top tier.
Yeah, I guess its totally subjective. Top tier to me is educated, financially stable, ambitious, at least a 6/10 "scale", and mentally sane.0 -
i could be wrong, but top tier is subjective.
what i find attractive you might not be interested in at all.
so, my top tier is different than yours.
again, i could be wrong ;-)Can we please define " top-tier?"
From the male POV, top tier is top tier. It's not subjective at all. Men know when they see it.
Women know it too, of course. We f*cking have eyeballs. Top tier women are hotties. Kate Upton. Megan Fox.
To get to this tier the only thing measured is appearance.
Us normal people have a lot to work with, and we can look damn good too. Don't let shallow f*cks destroy your confidence and ability to interact with other human beings. There's not a man or woman in this group that is "top tier" and who gives a rats a$s?0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
First off, thanks for making all the ladies here that don't have lines of men in their back yard feel like ugly, stinky dogs.
Second, I believe if a guy wants to be with you, he'll be with you. The movie someone brought up was "Maybe he's not that in to you". Even though it was cheesy as all heck, it was true. My boyfriend, when it was the EARLY days, moved heaven and earth just to spend a few minutes a day with me. I didn't have to chase, do anything, buy him gifts, etc. I was just me and he wanted to be with me.
Third, Guys - top tier is totally subjective. You can put an "11" in a room and only 10 out of the 13 men will think she's worth pursuing. All guys like different things, just like all women like different things. Case in point: If you put Megan Fox, Lily Aldridge and Beyonce in a room, all the guys would think they are hot, but all would find one a bit hotter.0 -
Wow...I love you! This hit home so much! I wish I could be as open towards men as you. I am naturally introverted and shy, so I am always hesitant to get what I want including men.
I've mentioned before, I have social anxiety. I know what it's like to be terrified and shy and want nothing more than to go home and pet the cats. But eventually you have to acknowledge that the risk is worth the temporary discomfort and just DO IT. There is no magic elixir to shyness (yes, even alcohol wears off eventually
). The point is to tell yourself that you know it's hard, and that it's okay. Then take a deep breath and say something. Embarrass yourself, laugh it off and try again.
I see time and time again "How do I stop being shy?" the answer is to... stop acting shy. Start acting confident. Start acting happy. Start acting like you're having a good time and eventually all of those things will be true. The only thing that can feed anxiety is more anxiety. Don't give in to it. That little piece of you that thinks McHottiePants is fiiiiiine? Take that piece and nurture it.0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
First off, thanks for making all the ladies here that don't have lines of men in their back yard feel like ugly, stinky dogs.
Second, I believe if a guy wants to be with you, he'll be with you. The movie someone brought up was "Maybe he's not that in to you". Even though it was cheesy as all heck, it was true. My boyfriend, when it was the EARLY days, moved heaven and earth just to spend a few minutes a day with me. I didn't have to chase, do anything, buy him gifts, etc. I was just me and he wanted to be with me.
Third, Guys - top tier is totally subjective. You can put an "11" in a room and only 10 out of the 13 men will think she's worth pursuing. All guys like different things, just like all women like different things. Case in point: If you put Megan Fox, Lily Aldridge and Beyonce in a room, all the guys would think they are hot, but all would find one a bit hotter.
Honestly, if Beyonce or Megan Fox weren't famous, would anyone consider them "top tier." Its subjective about the person's worth and value in your life,IMO!0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
First off, thanks for making all the ladies here that don't have lines of men in their back yard feel like ugly, stinky dogs.
Second, I believe if a guy wants to be with you, he'll be with you. The movie someone brought up was "Maybe he's not that in to you". Even though it was cheesy as all heck, it was true. My boyfriend, when it was the EARLY days, moved heaven and earth just to spend a few minutes a day with me. I didn't have to chase, do anything, buy him gifts, etc. I was just me and he wanted to be with me.
Third, Guys - top tier is totally subjective. You can put an "11" in a room and only 10 out of the 13 men will think she's worth pursuing. All guys like different things, just like all women like different things. Case in point: If you put Megan Fox, Lily Aldridge and Beyonce in a room, all the guys would think they are hot, but all would find one a bit hotter.
I think DM was just saying that a hot women will get pursued wherever they live. Whether they live in America, Germany, Japan, etc they will get pursued.
I heavily disagree where you say top tier is subjective. Megan Fox, Lily Aldridge, and Beyonce are all top tier. In fact, they are the upper segment of top tier. I'd say anyone above an 8/10 is top tier. Some might prefer a white girl (Megan Fox) instead a black girl (Beyonce), but that doesn't negate the fact that Beyonce is a top tier woman.0 -
Also another reason why getting participation medals are ruining the world. Once that started people started growing up with the attitude that they don't have to try for anything.
HA. Good one......
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Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
First off, thanks for making all the ladies here that don't have lines of men in their back yard feel like ugly, stinky dogs.
Second, I believe if a guy wants to be with you, he'll be with you. The movie someone brought up was "Maybe he's not that in to you". Even though it was cheesy as all heck, it was true. My boyfriend, when it was the EARLY days, moved heaven and earth just to spend a few minutes a day with me. I didn't have to chase, do anything, buy him gifts, etc. I was just me and he wanted to be with me.
Third, Guys - top tier is totally subjective. You can put an "11" in a room and only 10 out of the 13 men will think she's worth pursuing. All guys like different things, just like all women like different things. Case in point: If you put Megan Fox, Lily Aldridge and Beyonce in a room, all the guys would think they are hot, but all would find one a bit hotter.
Honestly, if Beyonce or Megan Fox weren't famous, would anyone consider them "top tier." Its subjective about the person's worth and value in your life,IMO!
They could be working at a McDonalds in the middle of Ohio and most men would universally agree that Megan Fox and Beyonce are top tier.
Men are not that complex! We all share a general idea on what we find attractive (this excludes any fetishist). Some might prefer blondes to brunettes, but that's extremely minor when it comes to overall attractiveness.0
