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Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
First off, thanks for making all the ladies here that don't have lines of men in their back yard feel like ugly, stinky dogs.
See you gals are choosing to take this wrong. There is a lot of room between Top tier and stinky dogs... just like there is between a river rock and a diamond.0 -
Calm down ladies, there's a difference between acknowledging that we aren't top tier and being the swamp monster. There's a lot of good points worth discussing in this thread that are falling to the wayside because we're focusing on how little we look like airbrushed celebrities.0
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Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.
First off, I did not say in my post, "Why don't men chase me".... please don't misquote what I said. Regardless, yes it did come across as an insult. The guy that said that probably has no clue what I look like, either - some of you do, though.
For the record I am a former spokesmodel, have been in movies and films. I'm not here because I am 100 pounds overweight, I am here because I wanted to learn how to eat better and take better care of ME because I became gluten intolerant. IMHO am not ugly but I don't go around prancing around like a primadonna either - expecting to be chased by hundreds of men. I actually would not like that to be honest. Yes, I get asked out in public - typically by men that aren't my type - some I've actually seen take their WEDDING BANDS OFF prior to walking up to me. No joke.
Those that are my type have had zero follow through. I HAVE had men say my education and career level intimidates them. I've been told my height is intimidating (I'm 5'9", it's not like I'm 6'5"!!!). I've been told that the fact I make more money than them intimidates them. Now I don't go being a braggart about that stuff, these things only come into play after many, many conversations.... but point being I could go on and on.... the "poofing" phenomenon is ridiculous.
Maybe that was a better way to put it? I dunno..... I was just venting, really. I probably should have put more thought into my original post....0 -
Getting off the path a bit here but I have to Google every name to see what the lady looks like (I keep myself pretty distant from the Hollywood/media industry) and while I will say the ladies are attractive (duh) just the sight of them does not make them desirable to me.0
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I've been told that the fact I make more money than them intimidates them.
Oh wow, thanks a lot... I guess all of us men that make less then you are the *kitten* end of a cow!! :happy:0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
So we're all just ugly then? Just what I needed to hear this morning...
For the love of...*rolls eyes*
I meant it more ironically.
The OP said "why don't men chase me" then DM said, "well if you're hot men will chase you." It kind of came off as an insult to her.
The reason I think men should pursue women is that like Mike said, men are aggressors and like to work for things. If it comes too easy, they aren't interested. I've seen and heard this over and over so I do see some truth to it.
First off, I did not say in my post, "Why don't men chase me".... please don't misquote what I said. Regardless, yes it did come across as an insult. The guy that said that probably has no clue what I look like, either - some of you do, though.
For the record I am a former spokesmodel, have been in movies and films. I'm not here because I am 100 pounds overweight, I am here because I wanted to learn how to eat better and take better care of ME because I became gluten intolerant. IMHO am not ugly but I don't go around prancing around like a primadonna either - expecting to be chased by hundreds of men. I actually would not like that to be honest. Yes, I get asked out in public - typically by men that aren't my type - some I've actually seen take their WEDDING BANDS OFF prior to walking up to me. No joke.
Those that are my type have had zero follow through. I HAVE had men say my education and career level intimidates them. I've been told my height is intimidating (I'm 5'9", it's not like I'm 6'5"!!!). I've been told that the fact I make more money than them intimidates them. Now I don't go being a braggart about that stuff, these things only come into play after many, many conversations.... but point being I could go on and on.... the "poofing" phenomenon is ridiculous.
Maybe that was a better way to put it? I dunno..... I was just venting, really. I probably should have put more thought into my original post....
It was too late to edit my post but I did apologize for misquoting you below my original post.0 -
Getting off the path a bit here but I have to Google every name to see what the lady looks like (I keep myself pretty distant from the Hollywood/media industry) and while I will say the ladies are attractive (duh) just the sight of them does not make them desirable to me.
I agree, I never understand the obsession with celebs.
Don't get me wrong, they are "hot". In fairness though, I could take a handful of girls on my campus, have Hollywood dump as much money into making them "beautiful" and they would be equal or better than celebs.
Not to mention, people only obsess about celebs because that is what the media tells them is "beautiful", which is stupid.
I tell myself what I think is beautiful, not the propaganda box.
^^ Also to note, @Fitness - Glad you are here to stay healthy, that is fine and dandy. Now you say you are a beautiful women, who is beyond successful but yet struggles in finding "good men" who "chase".
However now you say you were venting, and you simply weren't asking for advice, or a question, or even a discussion topic.
So can you now clarify what this thread is about?0 -
I've been told that the fact I make more money than them intimidates them.
Oh wow, thanks a lot... I guess all of us men that make less then you are the *kitten* end of a cow!! :happy:
It did make me chuckle though.0 -
I've been told that the fact I make more money than them intimidates them.
Oh wow, thanks a lot... I guess all of us men that make less then you are the *kitten* end of a cow!! :happy:
LOL... you know that is NOT what I meant..... goof!0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
First off, thanks for making all the ladies here that don't have lines of men in their back yard feel like ugly, stinky dogs.
See you gals are choosing to take this wrong. There is a lot of room between Top tier and stinky dogs... just like there is between a river rock and a diamond.
Omg Jim....you make me laugh.
Um...I choose that for a 40-year old woman I'm top-tier. So there..--0 -
I've been told that the fact I make more money than them intimidates them.
Oh wow, thanks a lot... I guess all of us men that make less then you are the *kitten* end of a cow!! :happy:
*kitten* end of a yak is more like it! :-) *smooches*0 -
^^ Also to note, @Fitness - Glad you are here to stay healthy, that is fine and dandy. Now you say you are a beautiful women, who is beyond successful but yet struggles in finding "good men" who "chase".
However now you say you were venting, and you simply weren't asking for advice, or a question, or even a discussion topic.
So can you now clarify what this thread is about?
Honestly .... this thread is giving me a headache... *shakes my head*
I thought this was a message board for "single" discussions.... didn't expect to have every word I posted be microscopically analyzed and misinterpreted, etc.....0 -
To draw back to the original poster, sex is so easy to get. If one woman doesn't have sex with a man within 1-3 dates, he probably can find about 5 that will within a click of a mouse.Personally in my experience, I've seen that the more a woman can bring to the table, the less options she has. Men don't want to work hard for the women who are successful or are educated. If they find an option that is easier to obtain or the standards are lower, they will go there.
Would you want to date these (horrible) men who are trying to have it easy anyway?
If not, then just wait for the man who will be ready to work to get you as hard as you (truly?) deserve, otherwise lower your standards if you would still want such a man.
Also think about it from the point of view of a man for a minute...
Why should a man have to work harder for a woman who is successful or educated?
Are these "successful and educated" women "superior" to other women?
And probably more importantly: does being "successful and educated" make a woman "higher value" in the eyes of a man? (answer: no it probably doesn't, ask JJ about it... she probably wrote a book on this topic by now :laugh: ).Chasing is for dogs and cars. People don't chase or they shouldn't.
Why do the-people-who-complains think "top tier good looking women" are chased by so many men... Because of their amazing sense of humour and incredible intelligence that perhaps 1% of the men they meet ever get to experience? Well, no, it isn't the reason why they are chased by so many men. It is because they are good looking women. * GASP! *
You aren't chased by all the men (or women) that see you? Well, sorry you aren't in the top tier of people who are chased solely on their looks, when people "see" them.
Welcome to my world, to most-of-the-people-on-this-forum's world, and to "66% of the world's population" world (yes, yes, it is correct: top tier is the top 1/3, i.e. 33%, that leaves 66% of the people in the remaining two tiers in the same bag as YOU! You're not alone.).
So, now, you think you would be happy if men were chasing you solely for your "good looks" - because that's what it's all about for the top tier?
Do you want men to want you for your "looks" only (and will be content with that) or do you intend to open your mouth and say something hopefully intelligent to the men chasing you at some point to base a "potential relationship" on something else than your looks?
If just for sex, then yes... Good looks help tremendously.0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
First off, thanks for making all the ladies here that don't have lines of men in their back yard feel like ugly, stinky dogs.
See you gals are choosing to take this wrong. There is a lot of room between Top tier and stinky dogs... just like there is between a river rock and a diamond.
Thank you!!!!!!!!! Why is it the minute anyone mentions top tier panties get in a bunch? Just by saying top tier they are not calling us ulgy. Thats your insecuruties coming out. I know I'm not top teir .... I know when I get to my goal weight I won't be top teir (10/10) But I know my own self worth and how damn awesome I am so I don't need to be top tier :smokin:0 -
didn't expect to have every word I posted be microscopically analyzed and misinterpreted, etc.....
Welcome to my world!!!0 -
didn't expect to have every word I posted be microscopically analyzed and misinterpreted, etc.....
Welcome to my world!!!
I noticed you used a picture of Willy Wonka, are you saying that all men are creepy candy factory owners??0 -
Top tier, hot women get pursued by men all the time, regardless of region.
First off, thanks for making all the ladies here that don't have lines of men in their back yard feel like ugly, stinky dogs.
See you gals are choosing to take this wrong. There is a lot of room between Top tier and stinky dogs... just like there is between a river rock and a diamond.
Thank you!!!!!!!!! Why is it the minute anyone mentions top tier panties get in a bunch? Just by saying top tier they are not calling us ulgy. Thats your insecuruties coming out. I know I'm not top teir .... I know when I get to my goal weight I won't be top teir (10/10) But I know my own self worth and how damn awesome I am so I don't need to be top tier :smokin:
The OP asked why men are "lazy" these days. The internet makes men have a false sense of security that if there's something minutely wrong with Woman A, that Woman B, C & D are out there waiting for them to sweep them off their feet. Dave decided to mention that if you are Top Tier men hit on you. Like that's the only way a woman will get hit on, which is really wrong. The top tier crap just makes me want to go home, put my flannel jammies on and eat a whole bag of potato chips while watching a cheesy romantic comedy, instead of putting on sexy lingerie for my boyfriend (who thinks I'm the bees knees, even if I'm not an 8 - 10 (top tier)). Looks are looks, boys. They fade. Kindness, intellect and sense of humor is there for a life time. STOP BEING SO SHALLOW! Ok, I'm done. I feel less like crying into a pint of Haggen Daz now, and that's good since I spend all of 2012 getting the damn weight off so I could considered a 7....LOL0 -
The top tier crap just makes me want to go home, put my flannel jammies on and eat a whole bag of potato chips while watching a cheesy romantic comedy, instead of putting on sexy lingerie for my boyfriend (who thinks I'm the bees knees, even if I'm not an 8 - 10 (top tier)).
This made me laugh a lot. Yeah I don't use that term either.Looks are looks, boys. They fade. Kindness, intellect and sense of humor is there for a life time. STOP BEING SO SHALLOW!
You are asking men, to stop being men. My response to you is, stop being naive about how men think.0 -
The top tier crap just makes me want to go home, put my flannel jammies on and eat a whole bag of potato chips while watching a cheesy romantic comedy, instead of putting on sexy lingerie for my boyfriend (who thinks I'm the bees knees, even if I'm not an 8 - 10 (top tier)).
This made me laugh a lot. Yeah I don't use that term either.Looks are looks, boys. They fade. Kindness, intellect and sense of humor is there for a life time. STOP BEING SO SHALLOW!
You are asking men, to stop being men. My response to you is, stop being naive about how men think.
I'd really prefer to live in my own little world, but thanks for crushing my dreams! LOL0 -
The top tier crap just makes me want to go home, put my flannel jammies on and eat a whole bag of potato chips while watching a cheesy romantic comedy, instead of putting on sexy lingerie for my boyfriend (who thinks I'm the bees knees, even if I'm not an 8 - 10 (top tier)).
This made me laugh a lot. Yeah I don't use that term either.Looks are looks, boys. They fade. Kindness, intellect and sense of humor is there for a life time. STOP BEING SO SHALLOW!
You are asking men, to stop being men. My response to you is, stop being naive about how men think.
Bless you... Why is it some ladies seem to think that men shouldn't approach women based on looks. Their MEN its what they do. I've said it more than once looks bring them in the rest of you keeps them around.Honeslty everyone has a little something they are shallow about (how mant time have one of you said teeth is a big thing for you) men are just more visual and honest about it. That doesn't mean you have to be top tier it just means *gasp* that you need to look nice when you go out and let them get the chance to know the rest you. If you dress like a escaped convict dont expect guys to want to get to know you. No guy has ever looked at some girl across the bar and said to his friend"you know what I wanna hump her brain" cause they cant see your brain or anything else that makes you you from across the bar.But they do see the way you look, the way you carry yourself the hints of your personality , those things bring them in0 -
In a perfect world Kristen..
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In a perfect world Kristen..
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Bless you... Why is it some ladies seem to think that men shouldn't approach women based on looks. Their MEN its what they do. I've said it more than once looks bring them in the rest of you keeps them around.Honeslty everyone has a little something they are shallow about (how mant time have one of you said teeth is a big thing for you) men are just more visual and honest about it. That doesn't mean you have to be top tier it just means *gasp* that you need to look nice when you go out and let them get the chance to know the rest you. If you dress like a escaped convict dont expect guys to want to get to know you. No guy has ever looked at some girl across the bar and said to his friend"you know what I wanna hump her brain" cause they cant see your brain or anything else that makes you you from across the bar.But they do see the way you look, the way you carry yourself the hints of your personality , those things bring them in
THIS. Well played Jen.0 -
The top tier crap just makes me want to go home, put my flannel jammies on and eat a whole bag of potato chips while watching a cheesy romantic comedy, instead of putting on sexy lingerie for my boyfriend (who thinks I'm the bees knees, even if I'm not an 8 - 10 (top tier)).
This made me laugh a lot. Yeah I don't use that term either.Looks are looks, boys. They fade. Kindness, intellect and sense of humor is there for a life time. STOP BEING SO SHALLOW!
You are asking men, to stop being men. My response to you is, stop being naive about how men think.
Bless you... Why is it some ladies seem to think that men shouldn't approach women based on looks. Their MEN its what they do. I've said it more than once looks bring them in the rest of you keeps them around.Honeslty everyone has a little something they are shallow about (how mant time have one of you said teeth is a big thing for you) men are just more visual and honest about it. That doesn't mean you have to be top tier it just means *gasp* that you need to look nice when you go out and let them get the chance to know the rest you. If you dress like a escaped convict dont expect guys to want to get to know you. No guy has ever looked at some girl across the bar and said to his friend"you know what I wanna hump her brain" cause they cant see your brain or anything else that makes you you from across the bar.But they do see the way you look, the way you carry yourself the hints of your personality , those things bring them in
Of course, and don't get me wrong personality has merit with men as well, exactly as you put it.
However, we are visual, we are "simple" in that regard. That is the reality of men. (of course, outliers, etc etc, blah blah)
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I absolutely understand that men approach based on looks. But what if you're not good looking enough that men approach you? How do you meet people when it's all looks based?0
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Regarding approaching based on looks. You don't know them. You see them from across the room. You don't know their personality, you don't know their interests, and you sure as hell don't know their political or religious views. What you DO know is how they look. Nothing else. With no attachment whatsoever, that is what's going to determine whether or not they're worth crossing a room to talk to. This is not unique to men.0
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No guy has ever looked at some girl across the bar and said to his friend"you know what I wanna hump her brain" cause they cant see your brain or anything else that makes you you from across the bar.
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In a perfect world Kristen..
ololololololololl
Whatever.0 -
I absolutely understand that men approach based on looks. But what if you're not good looking enough that men approach you? How do you meet people when it's all looks based?
Refer to my previous posts in this very thread.
TL;DR: Go get 'em, Tiger.0 -
I noticed you used a picture of Willy Wonka, are you saying that all men are creepy candy factory owners??
If only!!0