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  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
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    Sara when the bar is going up, after it's cleared your head, look down.
    Also, Rock mentioned this either on this thread or elsewhere, but using "suicide grip" (thumb not wrapped around), one of Wendler's tips, seems to help with bar path.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    Sara when the bar is going up, after it's cleared your head, look down.
    Also, Rock mentioned this either on this thread or elsewhere, but using "suicide grip" (thumb not wrapped around), one of Wendler's tips, seems to help with bar path.

    The grip comment was on my feed. Thanks taso - the head position was definitely looking odd but I could not pinpoint it.
  • Spokez70
    Spokez70 Posts: 548 Member
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    I have tried to adjust my squat form to the low bar type described in the Starting Strength book and suddenly my hips are kind of hurting and keep cracking when i sit down/ stand up/ move/ etc. Maybe I'm doing something wrong because they were not hurting before when I was working more based on the EFS so-you-think-you-can-squat videos (head up/ chest up/ bar higher w/ grip)

    Anyway- here is me warm up at 135# and working at 195#

    http://youtu.be/8VRvp1cSVBI
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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    I have tried to adjust my squat form to the low bar type described in the Starting Strength book and suddenly my hips are kind of hurting and keep cracking when i sit down/ stand up/ move/ etc. Maybe I'm doing something wrong because they were not hurting before when I was working more based on the EFS so-you-think-you-can-squat videos (head up/ chest up/ bar higher w/ grip)

    Anyway- here is me warm up at 135# and working at 195#

    http://youtu.be/8VRvp1cSVBI

    Play with your stance width, might help.

    Also I'd suggest pause squats, the last two reps on your working set were a bit deeper than the reps before. You'll want to get to where you hit an identical depth every rep. Pause squats helped me a lot with that.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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    Me again:

    I need to do more homework as to technique but thought I would upload my OHP video to see if anything was glaringly wrong. Apart from me being unbalanced on the third rep, I cannot pinpoint the issues (not well versed in OHP technique) but it just feels sloppy/weak. My 1RM is only 95lb - this is 80lb x 3 so it's pretty heavy for me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB6jmVtO8L8&feature=youtu.be

    How wide is your grip and how wide is your stance?
  • hnsaunde
    hnsaunde Posts: 757 Member
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    I've got videos for a check on both deadlifts and squats. They are both working sets, and the heaviest I can do at the moment.

    Deadlift (1 set of 5 @165 pounds):

    http://youtu.be/5za2E1kxyug

    Squat: (1 set of 5 @145 pounds):

    http://youtu.be/T-pnnrCs1rU
  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member
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    I've got videos for a check on both deadlifts and squats. They are both working sets, and the heaviest I can do at the moment.

    Deadlift (1 set of 5 @165 pounds):

    http://youtu.be/5za2E1kxyug

    Squat: (1 set of 5 @145 pounds):

    http://youtu.be/T-pnnrCs1rU

    Deadlift, you need the bar to be touching your shin at the start, not going to matter so much with that weight but it will start pulling you forward when the weights get heavier if the bar is out in front of you. Hips maybe just a tad too high also, if they were a little lower you could generate a bit more torque and really get your glutes and hamstrings working. Pretty good though.

    Squat is ok., Looks like you have a high bar position but your body is trying to do a low bar style squat, if you want to squat like that you are going to have to move the bar down your back a little IMO(or keep the bar there and squat more upright, narrower stance olympic style). Squats are all about experimenting, try some different stances and bar positions and find what feels best.
  • hnsaunde
    hnsaunde Posts: 757 Member
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    I've got videos for a check on both deadlifts and squats. They are both working sets, and the heaviest I can do at the moment.

    Deadlift (1 set of 5 @165 pounds):

    http://youtu.be/5za2E1kxyug

    Squat: (1 set of 5 @145 pounds):

    http://youtu.be/T-pnnrCs1rU

    Deadlift, you need the bar to be touching your shin at the start, not going to matter so much with that weight but it will start pulling you forward when the weights get heavier if the bar is out in front of you. Hips maybe just a tad too high also, if they were a little lower you could generate a bit more torque and really get your glutes and hamstrings working. Pretty good though.

    Squat is ok., Looks like you have a high bar position but your body is trying to do a low bar style squat, if you want to squat like that you are going to have to move the bar down your back a little IMO(or keep the bar there and squat more upright, narrower stance olympic style). Squats are all about experimenting, try some different stances and bar positions and find what feels best.

    Awesome, thanks for the feedback!

    For the squats, if I want to do the low bar squats, should I also be trying to go lower at the bottom?

    Conversely, if I wanted to keep going with the high bar, should I not be going as low? I find that the narrower my stance is, the more trouble I have going at or below parallel.
  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member
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    You don't need to get any lower than parallel, if you go with a pretty low bar position you just won't be able to get much deeper than that anyway. If you wan't to keep the high bar you wont push your hips back as much, stay really upright and your knees with come forward more.

    squat-variants-e1337190816213.jpg

    see how the high bar on the left is more upright and the low bar on the right is hips further back, more leaned over.

    Not being able to hit depth is usually a mobility issue, for me it's tight hips I do this before squatting
    http://www.mobilitywod.com/2012/01/episode-363-pre-squat-hip-opener-mob-rx.html
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
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    I've got videos for a check on both deadlifts and squats. They are both working sets, and the heaviest I can do at the moment.

    Deadlift (1 set of 5 @165 pounds):

    http://youtu.be/5za2E1kxyug

    Squat: (1 set of 5 @145 pounds):

    http://youtu.be/T-pnnrCs1rU

    Deadlift, you need the bar to be touching your shin at the start, not going to matter so much with that weight but it will start pulling you forward when the weights get heavier if the bar is out in front of you. Hips maybe just a tad too high also, if they were a little lower you could generate a bit more torque and really get your glutes and hamstrings working. Pretty good though.


    ^ Agreed.

    I would like to see you closer to the barbell before you set up. The barbell should bisect the foot when you stand upright. You look to be positioned too far away from the barbell at the start. See here for a good explanation on a very basic but effective set up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt7A23YnpA
  • hnsaunde
    hnsaunde Posts: 757 Member
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    Thanks so much for the feedback Hendrix and SS!

    The picture of the squats really helped, I think I see what you mean now on the bar position, and same for the deadlift bar position. I also don't warmup as well as I probably could, so I'm going to try that mobility routine during my next session.

    Thanks again!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    Me again:

    I need to do more homework as to technique but thought I would upload my OHP video to see if anything was glaringly wrong. Apart from me being unbalanced on the third rep, I cannot pinpoint the issues (not well versed in OHP technique) but it just feels sloppy/weak. My 1RM is only 95lb - this is 80lb x 3 so it's pretty heavy for me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB6jmVtO8L8&feature=youtu.be

    How wide is your grip and how wide is your stance?

    My hands rest on my outer shoulders and my stance is about shoulder width apart. I did try slightly wider grip today after watching some vids - just a smidge wider than shoulders and it seemed a bit better.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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    Me again:

    I need to do more homework as to technique but thought I would upload my OHP video to see if anything was glaringly wrong. Apart from me being unbalanced on the third rep, I cannot pinpoint the issues (not well versed in OHP technique) but it just feels sloppy/weak. My 1RM is only 95lb - this is 80lb x 3 so it's pretty heavy for me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB6jmVtO8L8&feature=youtu.be

    How wide is your grip and how wide is your stance?

    My hands rest on my outer shoulders and my stance is about shoulder width apart. I did try slightly wider grip today after watching some vids - just a smidge wider than shoulders and it seemed a bit better.

    Wider helps in that the bar has less distance to move and depending on your elbow pathing can be easier on your rotator cuffs, but I find it easier to support the weight with my grip a touch more narrow than my bench grip. I bench with my middle finger on the stripe, and press with my pinkies on it. I'd also highly suggest pressing thumbless (couldn't tell if you were already or not) as that helped me a lot. It also forces your elbows to track more in front of you than to the side, which I think is better.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    Thanks SO much, I really appreciate this and know what I need to work on today! :flowerforyou:

    Quick questions:

    1. for the BP and OHP, I was trying to emulate the way the lift is done with a bar (i.e. with elbows going below 90D or below the plane of my body); I'm worried about not training my body to do a full range of motion and do aspire to eventually move to a bar once I save up for plates. Am I going to injure myself doing this or am I ok to continue "pretending" that I'm using a bar?

    2. for the SLDL, do you mean arch it as in "round your back up towards the ceiling" or as is "round your back down towards the floor"?

    Again, thanks so much!

    1. for the BP and OHP,: they are slightly different lifts than their barbell equivalents, especially the OHP, so I would not try to totally replicate. The BB OHP, for example, has your elbows out in front and not pointing down.

    2. for the SLDL: arch your back so its - basically tits out *kitten* out.

    .
  • cmeiron
    cmeiron Posts: 1,599 Member
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    1. for the BP and OHP,: they are slightly different lifts than their barbell equivalents, especially the OHP, so I would not try to totally replicate. The BB OHP, for example, has your elbows out in front and not pointing down.

    2. for the SLDL: arch your back so its - basically tits out *kitten* out.

    :laugh: I was pretty sure that's what you meant for the SLDL! Thanks again! I really felt an improvement on Wednesday putting the other tips in place, especially with the SLDL which was the one I was most uncertain about - I'm feeling it in all the right places now!!!
  • Spokez70
    Spokez70 Posts: 548 Member
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    I have tried to adjust my squat form to the low bar type described in the Starting Strength book and suddenly my hips are kind of hurting and keep cracking when i sit down/ stand up/ move/ etc. Maybe I'm doing something wrong because they were not hurting before when I was working more based on the EFS so-you-think-you-can-squat videos (head up/ chest up/ bar higher w/ grip)

    Anyway- here is me warm up at 135# and working at 195#

    http://youtu.be/8VRvp1cSVBI

    Play with your stance width, might help.

    Also I'd suggest pause squats, the last two reps on your working set were a bit deeper than the reps before. You'll want to get to where you hit an identical depth every rep. Pause squats helped me a lot with that.

    I will give that a try- thanks.
  • victoriannsays
    victoriannsays Posts: 568 Member
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    so happy this is here. will upload videos asap.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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    I will give that a try- thanks.

    I'm admittedly a bit of a LRB fanboy, so take it with a grain of salt, but this plus the strength coach I'm working with now is where I got most of squat knowledge:

    http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2010/04/developing-your-raw-squat-pt-i.html
    http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2010/04/developing-your-raw-squat-pt-2.html

    His breakdown of it made a lot more sense to me than Rip's.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    Squatting, a few warm-up reps and then at my current highest 185 which is also my current body weight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB98SBzH5fQ

    (I can tell this is fairly close to my 5RM.)
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    Deadlifting form check, 5 reps at body weight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEqJi2i5-eo