Form critique thread, post your videos here.

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  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    Deadlifting form check, 5 reps at body weight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEqJi2i5-eo

    Looks good. Only thing I would say is drive your hips forward at the top. Squeeze your glutes.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    Squatting, a few warm-up reps and then at my current highest 185 which is also my current body weight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB98SBzH5fQ

    (I can tell this is fairly close to my 5RM.)

    Form looks good. Consider ditching the pad.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Deadlifting form check, 5 reps at body weight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEqJi2i5-eo

    Looks good. Only thing I would say is drive your hips forward at the top. Squeeze your glutes.
    Yeah I see what you mean, thanks!

    Form looks good. Consider ditching the pad.
    Thanks, wasn't sure if I was low enough, or need to stand more upright.

    I tried without the pad, I'm still too bony. But as the weight goes up it gets "thinner." It started hurting at 150 but it's hurting less each time so the pad will eventually go away. :)
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Deadlifting form check, 5 reps at body weight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEqJi2i5-eo

    Additionally, and this is slightly lower priority but still worth mentioning, I'd break your hips back further on the descent so that you're not bending at the knees as soon as you are.

    Watch the bar path as the bar descends and you'll notice that it's not quite vertical. You're bringing the bar around your knees because your knees are starting to bend (moving them slightly forward and in the way of the bar) early.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    I tried without the pad, I'm still too bony. But as the weight goes up it gets "thinner." It started hurting at 150 but it's hurting less each time so the pad will eventually go away. :)

    About that.. it might be hurting because the bar is in a slightly wrong position (I can't say that with certainty though). One thing that may help - when you're setting up, pull your shoulder blades back, as if you're trying to hold a coin between them, and put your elbows back and up. This should create a meaty area the bar can rest on.

    You may have seen this link before but in case not: http://stronglifts.com/squat-bar-position/
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Additionally, and this is slightly lower priority but still worth mentioning, I'd break your hips back further on the descent so that you're not bending at the knees as soon as you are.

    Watch the bar path as the bar descends and you'll notice that it's not quite vertical. You're bringing the bar around your knees because your knees are starting to bend (moving them slightly forward and in the way of the bar) early.
    I see what you mean. I specifically remember it going around my knees every time because I'm afraid to use my back as the main source of power when slowing it's descent. It's also why I'm not shoving the hips forward on the upside. I can fix that now that I'm aware of it and my back is way stronger than it was when I adopted that. Thanks!
    About that.. it might be hurting because the bar is in a slightly wrong position (I can't say that with certainty though). One thing that may help - when you're setting up, pull your shoulder blades back, as if you're trying to hold a coin between them, and put your elbows back and up. This should create a meaty area the bar can rest on.

    You may have seen this link before but in case not: http://stronglifts.com/squat-bar-position/
    Ok, I'll experiment with that and see if anything works better. One thing is if the bar moves a little bit in the wrong way it hits a nerve or something and will basically remove control of the arm on that side by instantly cramping a muscle, when that happens I have about 5 seconds to rack the weight before it's freefalling. :laugh:
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    Squatting, a few warm-up reps and then at my current highest 185 which is also my current body weight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB98SBzH5fQ

    (I can tell this is fairly close to my 5RM.)

    You take a bunch of small steps to line up and get ready for your lift. Try to get it down to at most 4 steps: two purposeful steps back, then either one or two sidesteps to get proper width. Particularly as the weight gets heavier, walking the bar out will start to take more and more out of you.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Squatting, a few warm-up reps and then at my current highest 185 which is also my current body weight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB98SBzH5fQ

    (I can tell this is fairly close to my 5RM.)

    You take a bunch of small steps to line up and get ready for your lift. Try to get it down to at most 4 steps: two purposeful steps back, then either one or two sidesteps to get proper width. Particularly as the weight gets heavier, walking the bar out will start to take more and more out of you.

    ^ This is great advice and applies to me too, so thanks =)
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    Deadlifting form check, 5 reps at body weight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEqJi2i5-eo

    The bar appears to be rolling quite a bit during your setup. I have a pretty big problem with it too and it's something I'm working on. The thing is if the bar rolls wrong it could mean the difference between you making the lift and not. Try to get to where your setup causes no rolling of the bar at all. You should be moving your body into the right spot, not rolling the bar to make it line up.

    Also look at pulling slack out of the bar (this'll be more important as you go up in weight), I have no idea how it relates to keeping the bar from rolling but it helps me. This is the clip of Bolton that I used to get the cue on pulling the slack out of the bar (it's loud so turn your speakers down):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNvONtw-94g
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    You take a bunch of small steps to line up and get ready for your lift. Try to get it down to at most 4 steps: two purposeful steps back, then either one or two sidesteps to get proper width. Particularly as the weight gets heavier, walking the bar out will start to take more and more out of you.
    The bar appears to be rolling quite a bit during your setup. I have a pretty big problem with it too and it's something I'm working on. The thing is if the bar rolls wrong it could mean the difference between you making the lift and not. Try to get to where your setup causes no rolling of the bar at all. You should be moving your body into the right spot, not rolling the bar to make it line up.

    Also look at pulling slack out of the bar (this'll be more important as you go up in weight), I have no idea how it relates to keeping the bar from rolling but it helps me. This is the clip of Bolton that I used to get the cue on pulling the slack out of the bar (it's loud so turn your speakers down):
    Awesome. I wouldn't have noticed these. The above are adaptations to technical/space problems so I will need to see if I can find better workarounds for them. Better to fix those now instead of when I'm failing for reasons other than lack of strength. Thanks!
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    Awesome. I wouldn't have noticed these. The above are adaptations to technical/space problems so I will need to see if I can find better workarounds for them. Better to fix those now instead of when I'm failing for reasons other than lack of strength. Thanks!

    My pleasure. The setup for the lift is as important as the lift itself. Those extra steps coming off the pins or that extra quarter inch roll out of position becomes a huge issue as you up the weight. In the case of the squat it can tire you out enough to make you miss the lift, and in the case of the deadlift it can put you at risk for injury in addition to making it more likely for you to miss the lift. Fixing it now will position you very well for the future.

    In all lifts, you should get to a point where your setup for the lift is the exact same every single time, regardless of weight. I do this through practice: whether it's 135 on the bar or 405, I go through the same exact mental cues and try to make sure my body is positioned in the same exact way. Video's very helpful for this, and if you lift at the same place regularly using spatial cues as well (i.e. when I'm setting up for the squat, my left foot is about 3 inches outside that crease in the mat and my right foot is on that other crease)
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    I've never actually looked at my overhead press, and I'm not all that experienced in this particular lift. Comments welcome:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH7YpWUj8Ho&feature=youtu.be
  • 120weeks
    120weeks Posts: 242 Member
    Tagging this thread for learning purposes.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    I've never actually looked at my overhead press, and I'm not all that experienced in this particular lift. Comments welcome:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH7YpWUj8Ho&feature=youtu.be

    i can dig it. looks good. arms are behind the ears, goes up and down smoothly.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    I've never actually looked at my overhead press, and I'm not all that experienced in this particular lift. Comments welcome:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH7YpWUj8Ho&feature=youtu.be

    Have you tried using the stretch reflex on your pressing?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I've never actually looked at my overhead press, and I'm not all that experienced in this particular lift. Comments welcome:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH7YpWUj8Ho&feature=youtu.be

    I gave you my comments already, but just to see if anyone thinks I am talking cr@p...

    That looked sweet to me. Reps 2 and 3 a bit better than 1 as the trajectory looked better - the bar was a smidge further behind your head. Maybe bring the elbows a bit more forward/up.
  • Spokez70
    Spokez70 Posts: 548 Member
    I will give that a try- thanks.

    I'm admittedly a bit of a LRB fanboy, so take it with a grain of salt, but this plus the strength coach I'm working with now is where I got most of squat knowledge:

    http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2010/04/developing-your-raw-squat-pt-i.html
    http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2010/04/developing-your-raw-squat-pt-2.html

    His breakdown of it made a lot more sense to me than Rip's.

    This was really helpful thanks. I think my issue was pointing my toes out too far and it was really bothering my hips after the fact.
  • dstromley1
    dstromley1 Posts: 165
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa6Cyd9GXmc&feature=youtu.be


    Just a single. Not a great video or angle but here it is
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    ^^^ that's just showing off.

    (yeah, i'm jelly :smile: )
  • Shen191
    Shen191 Posts: 86 Member
    just tagging for later, look forward to checking you out once home tonight. thanks for the awesome post.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa6Cyd9GXmc&feature=youtu.be


    Just a single. Not a great video or angle but here it is

    ^ Strong bench.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Ok kids.

    I've been battling knee issues for a bit now but having taken a good few months off of squatting and replacing it with deads, I'm now back to squatting (ironically after injuring my back and now I can't dead for a while. *FUUUUUUUUUUARK!!*)

    Anyways, I really have been sucking *kitten* at squats but they are finally starting to feel "almost right".

    This is 205x5.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37v3zijc8U


    For perspective sake, these reps felt good relative to what this **** normally feels like. Knee felt 100% too.
  • dstromley1
    dstromley1 Posts: 165
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa6Cyd9GXmc&feature=youtu.be


    Just a single. Not a great video or angle but here it is

    ^ Strong bench.

    Thank you. First time i used a Barbell in a while so hips lifted just a lil
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    I've never actually looked at my overhead press, and I'm not all that experienced in this particular lift. Comments welcome:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH7YpWUj8Ho&feature=youtu.be

    Have you tried using the stretch reflex on your pressing?

    Not on anything heavy.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    Ok kids.

    I've been battling knee issues for a bit now but having taken a good few months off of squatting and replacing it with deads, I'm now back to squatting (ironically after injuring my back and now I can't dead for a while. *FUUUUUUUUUUARK!!*)

    Anyways, I really have been sucking *kitten* at squats but they are finally starting to feel "almost right".

    This is 205x5.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37v3zijc8U


    For perspective sake, these reps felt good relative to what this **** normally feels like. Knee felt 100% too.

    thumbs up!
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    I've never actually looked at my overhead press, and I'm not all that experienced in this particular lift. Comments welcome:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH7YpWUj8Ho&feature=youtu.be

    Have you tried using the stretch reflex on your pressing?

    Not on anything heavy.
    I didn't want to hijack this thread with this, but I'd like to know more. I started a separate thread to get opinions/discussion about this so I can decide which way to go once I complete StrongLifts and try to start customizing/tweaking my workouts a bit. :)
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/922670-stretch-reflex-on-overhead-press-yes-or-no
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    Ok kids.

    I've been battling knee issues for a bit now but having taken a good few months off of squatting and replacing it with deads, I'm now back to squatting (ironically after injuring my back and now I can't dead for a while. *FUUUUUUUUUUARK!!*)

    Anyways, I really have been sucking *kitten* at squats but they are finally starting to feel "almost right".

    This is 205x5.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37v3zijc8U


    For perspective sake, these reps felt good relative to what this **** normally feels like. Knee felt 100% too.

    What do you use as a reference for if you break parallel? Midline of thigh, top, or bottom?
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    I've never actually looked at my overhead press, and I'm not all that experienced in this particular lift. Comments welcome:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH7YpWUj8Ho&feature=youtu.be

    Have you tried using the stretch reflex on your pressing?

    Not on anything heavy.

    You have shoulder issues right? I'd say to give it a shot with about the speed you do your squats at, may find it helps you move more weight.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Ok kids.

    I've been battling knee issues for a bit now but having taken a good few months off of squatting and replacing it with deads, I'm now back to squatting (ironically after injuring my back and now I can't dead for a while. *FUUUUUUUUUUARK!!*)

    Anyways, I really have been sucking *kitten* at squats but they are finally starting to feel "almost right".

    This is 205x5.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37v3zijc8U


    For perspective sake, these reps felt good relative to what this **** normally feels like. Knee felt 100% too.

    What do you use as a reference for if you break parallel? Midline of thigh, top, or bottom?

    When I'm actually squatting, I just go by feel. When viewing this video I see it as borderline. Could stand to go a bit deeper but I tend to butt wink due to poor mobility.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    I've never actually looked at my overhead press, and I'm not all that experienced in this particular lift. Comments welcome:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH7YpWUj8Ho&feature=youtu.be

    Have you tried using the stretch reflex on your pressing?

    Not on anything heavy.

    You have shoulder issues right? I'd say to give it a shot with about the speed you do your squats at, may find it helps you move more weight.

    I have shoulder issues but they don't seem to interfere with ohp at all. Going to read up on this, thanks!
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