July check in and chat: barbell-lovin' BAMFs in training

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  • jstout365
    jstout365 Posts: 1,686 Member
    yep that's what I mean... and there's one of him in torn trousers all wet from swimming in the sea :love: Maybe it was his superman costume that covered up his hairy chest for the rest of the film.... but anyway my vote is for film makers to have more male characters in films that are muscular, hairy and beareded :love:

    oops sorry for the thread derailment.... but this is a chat thread and he does have big muscles. On the stronglifts facebook page there was something about him doing deadlifts to get into shape for the film (there, back on topic now :flowerforyou: )

    Yes, his training plan for the film was quite amazing. He went through the normal bulk and cut phases. I think at the beginning he did a 6 week pre-conditioning cycle to get him ready to do the heavy work. In interviews he says that at one time he was eating 5k calories a day and it sounds like he was on a very restrictive list of foods he could eat. Besides being very good looking, he has incredible ability to change his body for specific roles. He was lean and muscular for Immortals (no beard or chest hair), less cut and muscular for The Cold Light of Day, and then really bulked and I would say moderately lean for Man of Steel.

    henry-cavill.jpgtumblr_mb16i60VCg1rhaflto1_500.jpgimages?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSIfECGbc46mCj9DSpj5u9tscg8GLDTW6_DAZHVdUnmlkA-EKe

    All done for the sake of showing just how much you can do with respect to body composition...I promise!
  • kirabob
    kirabob Posts: 481 Member
    My my, what a lovely treat! I'll be in my bunk. :smile:

    Dani - Thank you so much for picking up on my lame goblet squat help. Those links are fabulous.
  • cpiton
    cpiton Posts: 380 Member
    @Jam -- goblets aren't "better" than regular parallel squats, just different. They help open your hip flexors so that squat depth won't be a problem for you. I do them with dumbbells/kettlebells on my complexes. It's always good to mix things up a little to prevent boredom, and have more lifts and a greater variety in your arsenal.

    The nice thing about goblet squats is that they mimick "toddler squats" which is the squat we all did when we were little, and have forgotten all about. Humans were built to squat. Goblet squats can help you rediscover that. Look at them as an "accessory lift".

    More on goblet squats and its benefits:
    http://gobletsquats.weebly.com/

    I do mine with a much wider stance and basically sumo style because I have long legs and that's most comfortable for me. Try some stance widths and see which one you like best. :smile:

    Also, here's everything you ever wanted to know about just about every squat variety out there:
    http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/11/30/the-ultimate-squat-guide-35-squat-exercises/

    Jam: I've had no end of issues with my adductors since Dec. I get these painful spasms. My chiro figured out it was a hip flexor issue. I've been doing dumbbell goblet squats as part of my warm up for back squats. (I may have to add some into my finishers, too) I use a sumo stance, too--I'm a shorty. 5'3 on tiptoes. ;) It has helped some with flexibility. Worth a shot. :flowerforyou:
  • emjaycazz
    emjaycazz Posts: 330 Member
    How lucky it is to have the chance to check into this thread!Shirtless Henry Cavill not just once but multiple times and with various varieties of chest hair. :flowerforyou:

    It was Squats + OHP + Deadlift for me today (all 5x5):
    Squats: 75 ( I deloaded from 80 last week to re-set/adjust my form)
    OHP 40*
    Deadlift: 80

    So my company's gym does not have a power rack:mad:. They have a Max Rack, which is like a Smith machine but the vertical bar moves back and forward--that is what I use for my squats and my deadlifts. I tried to use it for OHPs, but I found it difficult. However, when I did OHPs using a fixed barbell I was fine. I had to clean before I started my reps, and was fine. Not sure what I will do going forward...

    Also--I forgot. Henry Cavill played the son in the Count of Monte Cristo (a family favorite movie).
  • TwinkieDong
    TwinkieDong Posts: 1,564 Member
    ok group. What is the best way just to go for the 5x5? I downloaded the book....really do not want to read it at this time. Any cliff notes, executive summaries?
  • cpiton
    cpiton Posts: 380 Member
    So my company's gym does not have a power rack:mad:. They have a Max Rack, which is like a Smith machine but the vertical bar moves back and forward--that is what I use for my squats and my deadlifts. I tried to use it for OHPs, but I found it difficult. However, when I did OHPs using a fixed barbell I was fine. I had to clean before I started my reps, and was fine. Not sure what I will do going forward...

    I've heard so many times how people confuse a power rack with a smith machine. That must have been disappointing. :(. Great job making the best of a bad situation, though. :smile:
  • emjaycazz
    emjaycazz Posts: 330 Member

    I've heard so many times how people confuse a power rack with a smith machine. That must have been disappointing. :(. Great job making the best of a bad situation, though. :smile:

    Thank you--I did sort of feel like a BAMF when I went to the front desk to ask if there was any chance of getting a power rack (just ONE!). Trying to do what I can with what I have. :)
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    ok group. What is the best way just to go for the 5x5? I downloaded the book....really do not want to read it at this time. Any cliff notes, executive summaries?

    Yep.

    Go here and check out the stickies.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/4618-stronglifts-5x5-for-women

    Maybe this month will be the month I even add to the FAQ
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    ok group. What is the best way just to go for the 5x5? I downloaded the book....really do not want to read it at this time. Any cliff notes, executive summaries?

    Read Tameko's stickies, because the e-book is full of superfluous drivel about how Mehdi found the supersecret most-powerfullest fountain of "you even lift, bro?" manliness that he's sharing with you for FREE (!!!!!!) as if 5x5 wasn't around until Mehdi came up with Stronglifts. The stickies will do you just fine, plus make sure you get the form down, then pick a day, make sure you have access to the equipment you'll need, and get started.
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    ETA: NM. Soon though.
  • cpiton
    cpiton Posts: 380 Member
    :smile: <----This is me not :sad: because I have to deload my squats again. No, really. I'm totally :smile: ...no, really...well, maybe I'm a bit :frown:

    Today's workout:
    Squat: 155 (30lb deload)
    OHP: 75 1x3, 70 4x5 (I'm so close to that elusive 75)
    Deadlift 190 mixed grip (I felt amazing after this lift. Just what I needed to perk me up after squats.)

    I've noticed my core has weakened. I'm thinking it's due in part to my adductor/hip flexor issue. I got down on the mat and, between sets, did every ab/core exercise I could think of that didn't involve my arms--no planks. It seemed to help remind me to engage my core during the OHP. I also did slow mountain climbers and weighted glute bridges (only 25#) along with my regular stretches and some new ones given to me by my chiro.
    So, 75% of my workout was physical therapy. lol

    Does anyone use a weight belt? Think this might help me?
  • ewartluft
    ewartluft Posts: 79 Member
    I'm usually a lurker but I think it's about time I post something! I loved weight traing in high school (haven't ever been a fan of much cardio beyond walking) and for some reason never even thought to keep it up once I graduated...until a couple months ago. I'm soooo glad I decided to jump in with both feet using StrongLifts! Today was week 6, day 1 for me (workout a). Here are my stats (is that the right term?):

    Squat: 95 lbs
    Bench: 52.5 lbs
    Row: 70 lbs (I finished 5x5 but could feel my form go out the window on the last one so I'll repeat next time)

    From workout b last Friday:

    OHP: 42 lbs (This is the only lift I'd never done before and I really, really dislike them.)
    Deadlift: 110 lbs

    When I started, I JOKINGLY told my hubby that my goal was to be able to lift him (or at least the equivalent weight). Apparently, he's holding me to it! :huh:
  • jstout365
    jstout365 Posts: 1,686 Member
    cpiton - I know what you mean. I notice a big difference in my core stability when my hipflexor is acting up. I can't comment on the belt. I haven't used one and don't plan on getting into wearing one unless I really need it.

    ewartluft - Welcome!

    Had one of those "hmmm, will I be able to lift my arms in the morning?" workouts today. It was a cardio day with a run and some shoulders and core accessory work. It broke down to:

    2 miles in 17:01 which included 4 - 9 mph intervals for 1 min each
    4 rounds of 20 12kg kettlebell pirate ships, 20 spider plank crunches, 10 45lb upright rows, 15 vertical leg lifts from the dip bars (straight arms)
    2 sets of 15 band pull aparts
  • caitlynwlkr
    caitlynwlkr Posts: 5 Member
    Today was workout 7 for me and I did it after trying to run for the first time in like forever. Squats felt like WAY more than 5 lbs heavier this work out than last work out but I completed them. I didn't complete my last few sets of bench presses and I'm not even going to speak of the barbell rows. I'm doing a mud run in two months and I really need to work on my running but I'm afraid it's going to affect my progress with lifting :/
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    I've noticed my core has weakened.

    Does anyone use a weight belt? Think this might help me?

    If your core is weakened, then strengthen the muscle, and deloading and working your way back up again is going to help you more than a belt. I have one for my lower back, but I'd rather deload and let my back muscles catch up than use a belt, honestly.

    Do you have regular core work as part of your overall routine? As well as hip flexor stretches/moves? Your lifts are only going to be as strong as the weakest muscles involved, so if they're weak yet, you either strengthen them doing accessory work or you're going to continue deloading until they're good and ready to let you progress. That's just the reality of it. And a belt would probably mask the problem rather than solve it, to be honest, especially if you're not lifting competitively.
    OHP: 42 lbs (This is the only lift I'd never done before and I really, really dislike them.)

    Why? I swear I'm the odd duck out because I love the OHP and always have. My triceps and shoulders have never looked better or been stronger. I don't understand what all the hatred is about.
  • jstout365
    jstout365 Posts: 1,686 Member
    Today was workout 7 for me and I did it after trying to run for the first time in like forever. Squats felt like WAY more than 5 lbs heavier this work out than last work out but I completed them. I didn't complete my last few sets of bench presses and I'm not even going to speak of the barbell rows. I'm doing a mud run in two months and I really need to work on my running but I'm afraid it's going to affect my progress with lifting :/

    Common practice is to lift first and then run. Try switching those and see how you do. Even if you have to run slower, you are still running and getting the endurance.
  • jstout365
    jstout365 Posts: 1,686 Member
    Video of Henry Cavill and Antje Traue (Faora) going through the workouts. Antje has some really cool things to say about strength training that I think most of us here have already figured out.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uJylK2o6ng
  • kitkat4141
    kitkat4141 Posts: 379 Member
    Workout A was my first of the month. I am on a reduced schedule since I am training for a 6 day cycling tour later in the month. I have been holding steady on my weight totals to conserve energy for cycling but everything felt so light today. It was a shame not to take advantage. I increased everything except for squats.

    Squats 5x5 @ 100#

    Bench Press 5x5 @ 60#

    Pendlay Rows 5x5 @ 70#

    Everything felt easy and I could have done more weight. Trying to determine why this is. The biggest change in my life has been carb loading for long bike rides. I did a 35 miler yesterday and have been consciously eating more carbs and less protein over the past two days.

    I'll be gone for two weeks so no workouts unless the hotel we are staying in has a power rack or barbells. Won't know till I get there. My plan is to pick Stronglifts back up the last week of July. Hopefully I can start at the weights I did today.
  • alisaglem
    alisaglem Posts: 36 Member
    I'm having issues with my hip flexors (I posted a separate topic about this) so I'm not increasing much on my squats. I probably need to figure out accessory work for that. I'm having a hard time figuring out what to add where in terms of accessory work. I'm just doing straight SL 5X5 cause I don't know what else to fit in on which days to not mess with the progress on SL. I'm doing a little ab work here and there and some interval cardio once a week. I try to also do yoga twice a week (uhm... missed the last two weeks). But good thing is I have 0(!!!) knee pain and absolutely no wrist pain as I did in the beginning. So that's a YAY!

    Today I did:
    Squats 70 66666
    Bench 65 55555
    Pendlay 70 55555

    My deadlift is at 100 now (Yippie!)
    Overhead press, stuck at 40 but working my up by doing 66666
  • cpiton
    cpiton Posts: 380 Member
    I've noticed my core has weakened.

    Does anyone use a weight belt? Think this might help me?

    If your core is weakened, then strengthen the muscle, and deloading and working your way back up again is going to help you more than a belt. I have one for my lower back, but I'd rather deload and let my back muscles catch up than use a belt, honestly.

    Do you have regular core work as part of your overall routine? As well as hip flexor stretches/moves? Your lifts are only going to be as strong as the weakest muscles involved, so if they're weak yet, you either strengthen them doing accessory work or you're going to continue deloading until they're good and ready to let you progress. That's just the reality of it. And a belt would probably mask the problem rather than solve it, to be honest, especially if you're not lifting competitively.
    OHP: 42 lbs (This is the only lift I'd never done before and I really, really dislike them.)

    Why? I swear I'm the odd duck out because I love the OHP and always have. My triceps and shoulders have never looked better or been stronger. I don't understand what all the hatred is about.

    Yes on the stretches, dynamic (before lifting) and static (after). My chiro recently suggested some new ones and I got a couple off the Girls Gone Strong site I decided to throw in.
    Before SL, when I was doing a split routine, I did core stuff more often. Don't know why I stopped, but obviously that was a mistake, because I've noticed a marked decline in core strength since I started SL. However, I've also been injured (though I didn't realize what was going on in the beginning) this whole time. I'm definitely not blaming the program. My strength gains with SL, even while injured, have exceeded my expectations.

    I was thinking belt, because it would give my abs something to push against when doing the heavier lifts. After thinking more about it, though, I agree that it would be a mistake to use one right now if I'm not happy with my overall core strength.
    I've got a yoga DVD that concentrates on core. I'm going to start doing that on recovery days and do the ab exercises in between sets, too. That seemed to help trigger the muscles to contract during the OHP, which helped my deadlift, too.
    Any suggestions for additional core work are welcome :)

    Mindful core, mindful core=my new mantra. Better than my old one: Suck it in, sister. People are looking. :wink:

    I like the OHP, though I constantly fail at it. (Darn you, 75lbs!!) When I get it right, it makes my back feel amazing. It works so many muscles, I think of it as a bargain exercise. You get a whole bunch of muscles worked for the price of one movement. Lol And while that's true of all compound exercises, I particularly notice it with the OHP. :happy:
  • lwoodroff
    lwoodroff Posts: 1,431 Member
    cption, your deloaded squat is still heavier than my pr!

    OHP I don't loathe but I find it hard, it is more technical than it looks, and I feel like a weeeeed. It's not beating me though, it will be my b!tch :)
  • inkysmurf
    inkysmurf Posts: 168
    Lwoodroff - I watched the ripptoe and another php quikie youtube (I popped it on the useful video thread) and it made a word of difference for me to today - just tiling my elbows out - just made a huge difference that and not smashing my nose with the bar!

    and p.s your squat is heavier than my PR!

    today week 5 workout B
    squat 5x5 @ 40kg (88lbs)
    OHP 5x5 @ 17.5 (38.5) - stuck to this after last times crazieness!! - felt 3millions times better doing this as well
    deadlife 5x5 @ 40kg (88lbs)
    3 x 40sec prone bridges
    6 x chinups (floor to door)
    41 air squats

    here's to anoter month and working to having leg dents to match my arm dents! (yup - my goal right now is to have dents no idea what these are called but I want them bad!)
  • lwoodroff
    lwoodroff Posts: 1,431 Member
    deadlife ha ha ha

    and thanks, will check out that vid! :)

    I've put up some progress shots, am not feeling they show a lot of 'progress' although I'm definitely stronger, need to get that bf% down.. I should have done some of my legs, I have fabulous legs ;)
  • inkysmurf
    inkysmurf Posts: 168
    deadlifes for life!! (yup)

    and get them leg shots up and show them off.
    and p.s You are looking amazing!!
  • Coquette6
    Coquette6 Posts: 158 Member
    Feels like it's been forever since I was in the weight room! Really, it's only been since Friday morning, but it's been kind of a hectic weekend so it feels like a long time. I was at a wedding over the weekend and staying at my mom's house, so ate way too much good food, but no change in the scale this morning, and I loved every bite of it, so who cares? Mmm, chocolate cupcakes... And as a bonus, my older sister (who I only see about once a month) told me I'd lost weight. Win!

    Workout B this morning!
    Squat - 95lbs x 4
    Press - 55lbs x 5
    Deadlift - 115lbs x 5 - Woo!
  • grandmoo
    grandmoo Posts: 34 Member
    An "off" day - at least from lifting. Decided to start Couch-to-5K (again) this morning. It felt great! Here's to hoping I can actually complete it this time...
  • Calliope610
    Calliope610 Posts: 3,783 Member
    Donating blood this evening after work, so no Workout A today (bench & rows). Intensive deloaded bar squat work instead.
  • BikerGirlElaine
    BikerGirlElaine Posts: 1,631 Member
    I've got a yoga DVD that concentrates on core. I'm going to start doing that on recovery days and do the ab exercises in between sets, too. That seemed to help trigger the muscles to contract during the OHP, which helped my deadlift, too.
    Any suggestions for additional core work are welcome :)

    First off, I sympathize with the weak core issue. I felt like it happened to me, too. I now hit my core directly after weights, when my lifting hasn't left me too wiped out.

    Yes, I'm tossing in a caveat here for you to consider. I am a big fan of rest days. I would be more inclined to suggest that you hit your core hard on SL days, and then rest on the days in between. Rest days are where you make your progress.
  • jstout365
    jstout365 Posts: 1,686 Member
    I've got a yoga DVD that concentrates on core. I'm going to start doing that on recovery days and do the ab exercises in between sets, too. That seemed to help trigger the muscles to contract during the OHP, which helped my deadlift, too.
    Any suggestions for additional core work are welcome :)

    First off, I sympathize with the weak core issue. I felt like it happened to me, too. I now hit my core directly after weights, when my lifting hasn't left me too wiped out.

    Yes, I'm tossing in a caveat here for you to consider. I am a big fan of rest days. I would be more inclined to suggest that you hit your core hard on SL days, and then rest on the days in between. Rest days are where you make your progress.

    I'm a big into core work. I do my core accessory work on non-SL days, but I also have built up to a 6 day/week workout schedule and pay attention to fatigue, how my lifts are going, eating, sleep, etc. to really gauge if I need to add a full rest day in during the week. Rest/Recovery is very important. I would also suggest adding core to your SL days for a week or two. See how you feel and if you are making progress. If you still want to add the yoga in (also great for flexibility) I would start with one day a week and then add a day in a few weeks.

    What kind of exercises are you adding right now? I have my go to core exercises that I'd be happy to share.
  • Calliope610
    Calliope610 Posts: 3,783 Member
    @ Jstout, yes, please share your core exercises.