Setting Your Calorie and Macro Targets

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  • Alamiie
    Alamiie Posts: 9
    ugh i am so confused lol.
    i used the website you said to get my TDEE and then took 20% off that for my daily calorie intake and i'm left with 1735 and that's without ANY exercise. that's just my general (very light/light) day to day stuff. surely i can't eat that much without ANY exercise and lose weight? sorry if i'm being thick just so confused.

    Why confused, what has been your experience with calorie levels to you know that you have an informed opinion?

    Ever log some common days when you used to eat without exercise, before you began a diet, and were even aware of calorie levels?

    If the only calorie level you've ever seen was 1200 minimum for sedentary woman, then sure 1700 sounds high.

    But if you logged what you use to eat and found you were eating 2500 or more on regular basis, than 1700 is nothing. And exercising now compared to perhaps none then.

    to be fair my idea of calorie intake is probably a bit squif(? how do you even spell that word lol)
    like i've just mentioned i have a history of EDs so yes 1700 sounds very high to me. especially for someone who doesn't move a lot (i don't work, i do look after my little girl but she is only 11months so doesn't require a great amount of moving around) and i don't do any exercise as of yet. so it seems really steep to me.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    ugh i am so confused lol.
    i used the website you said to get my TDEE and then took 20% off that for my daily calorie intake and i'm left with 1735 and that's without ANY exercise. that's just my general (very light/light) day to day stuff. surely i can't eat that much without ANY exercise and lose weight? sorry if i'm being thick just so confused.

    What are your stats? Age, height, weight, amount you are looking to lose? How many weeks do you have of consistent logging data?

    i'm 21, 5ft1, 165lb and would like to be around 110lb-115lb. i don't have any weeks of consistent logging yet. i've been just eating healthy without counting for the past couple weeks due to a previous ED where i obsessed over calories. but i've realised if i want to lose the weight properly i will have to count.

    Are you still breast feeding?

    If you have a history of ED, counting may not be the best thing for you tbh. What has your weight done over the last few weeks?
  • Alamiie
    Alamiie Posts: 9
    ugh i am so confused lol.
    i used the website you said to get my TDEE and then took 20% off that for my daily calorie intake and i'm left with 1735 and that's without ANY exercise. that's just my general (very light/light) day to day stuff. surely i can't eat that much without ANY exercise and lose weight? sorry if i'm being thick just so confused.

    What are your stats? Age, height, weight, amount you are looking to lose? How many weeks do you have of consistent logging data?

    i'm 21, 5ft1, 165lb and would like to be around 110lb-115lb. i don't have any weeks of consistent logging yet. i've been just eating healthy without counting for the past couple weeks due to a previous ED where i obsessed over calories. but i've realised if i want to lose the weight properly i will have to count.

    Are you still breast feeding?

    If you have a history of ED, counting may not be the best thing for you tbh. What has your weight done over the last few weeks?

    no, not breasfeeding. and it's pretty much stayed the same but like i say i haven't been counting. i just stress if i don't count i won't lose the weight at all like i haven't been. so idk what to do.
  • bigbalagan
    bigbalagan Posts: 2 Member
    Note however, these are all estimates of averages. The best determination of what your TDEE are your results. If you have been tracking for a while, you should be able to look back over a period of time and calculate what YOUR actual TDEE is.

    Nobody appears to have mentioned it yet, but I found the MyFitnessPal Reports Bookmarklet super-helpful for calculating my TDEE this way. The bookmarklet, which improves the site's reports in numerous ways, reports your average daily calorie intake over a given period -- much easier than having to calculate your intake manually using the daily food diaries.

    Here's the link to the thread on this site about the bookmarklet:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/879517-myfitnesspal-reports-with-iiteractive-graphs

    (Also, it turns out that my TDEE is 3100 calories! After playing with a few online TDEE calculators for comparison, I realized that I'm much more active than I thought, which speaks to Sarauk2sf's point about activity estimates in her original post.)
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    Vini9 Posts: 343 Member
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  • ahszabo
    ahszabo Posts: 7 Member
    Okay, I am 5'8", 226 pounds (I've lost a bit over 20 since mid-july) and MFP is setting my calorie goal at 1400...by your calculations that is WAY too low, it looks like I should be at about 1700 (30% off of TDEE). I'm a teacher (art), mother of three (4yo, 5 yo and 7yo) and do a lot of housework...I've signed up as lightly active as "teacher" is listed next to it. Should I go with the 1700 calorie goal, even though I am having great success at 1400? Should I just change my activity level up from lightly active and see where that sets me? I've got some pretty poor cholesterol and triglyceride levels so losing 2 lbs a week until I'm at 199 is important to me (trying to avoid meds). After that I plan on slowly the loss to 1 lb a week until I hit 175 at which point I will assess things with my dr.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Okay, I am 5'8", 226 pounds (I've lost a bit over 20 since mid-july) and MFP is setting my calorie goal at 1400...by your calculations that is WAY too low, it looks like I should be at about 1700 (30% off of TDEE). I'm a teacher (art), mother of three (4yo, 5 yo and 7yo) and do a lot of housework...I've signed up as lightly active as "teacher" is listed next to it. Should I go with the 1700 calorie goal, even though I am having great success at 1400? Should I just change my activity level up from lightly active and see where that sets me? I've got some pretty poor cholesterol and triglyceride levels so losing 2 lbs a week until I'm at 199 is important to me (trying to avoid meds). After that I plan on slowly the loss to 1 lb a week until I hit 175 at which point I will assess things with my dr.

    How much have you lost in the last 4 weeks?
  • ahszabo
    ahszabo Posts: 7 Member
    I've lost about 2 pounds each of the last four weeks, a little over or a little under depending on the week. Prior to that it was closer to about 1.5 pounds, the losses have sped up recently (which feel quite nice, but I don't understand way, I've always stayed close the calorie goal).
  • ahszabo
    ahszabo Posts: 7 Member
    Okay, I am 5'8", 226 pounds (I've lost a bit over 20 since mid-july) and MFP is setting my calorie goal at 1400...by your calculations that is WAY too low, it looks like I should be at about 1700 (30% off of TDEE). I'm a teacher (art), mother of three (4yo, 5 yo and 7yo) and do a lot of housework...I've signed up as lightly active as "teacher" is listed next to it. Should I go with the 1700 calorie goal, even though I am having great success at 1400? Should I just change my activity level up from lightly active and see where that sets me? I've got some pretty poor cholesterol and triglyceride levels so losing 2 lbs a week until I'm at 199 is important to me (trying to avoid meds). After that I plan on slowly the loss to 1 lb a week until I hit 175 at which point I will assess things with my dr.

    How much have you lost in the last 4 weeks?
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I've lost about 2 pounds each of the last four weeks, a little over or a little under depending on the week. Prior to that it was closer to about 1.5 pounds, the losses have sped up recently (which feel quite nice, but I don't understand way, I've always stayed close the calorie goal).

    Suggest you do the math to confirm it's only fat. You can eat and exercise badly and cause muscle mass loss.

    The 3500 cal per lb is only if it's fat loss.

    But muscle when used to supply energy is only about 600 cal per lb. Actually easier to lose a lb of muscle than a lb of fat.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I've lost about 2 pounds each of the last four weeks, a little over or a little under depending on the week. Prior to that it was closer to about 1.5 pounds, the losses have sped up recently (which feel quite nice, but I don't understand way, I've always stayed close the calorie goal).

    Are you weighing your food where possible and logging accurately? Is the 1,400 net or gross?
  • ahszabo
    ahszabo Posts: 7 Member
    I've lost about 2 pounds each of the last four weeks, a little over or a little under depending on the week. Prior to that it was closer to about 1.5 pounds, the losses have sped up recently (which feel quite nice, but I don't understand way, I've always stayed close the calorie goal).

    Are you weighing your food where possible and logging accurately? Is the 1,400 net or gross?

    The 1400 is the combination of food (plus) and exercise (minus). I am making healthy food choices (lean meats, lots of veggies, some fruits, trying to reduce carbs and sugar). I feel good, not weak and I usually feel content, not hungry. I am not weighing, but measuring food and using labels to cross check measurements on things as well as research online. I need to get a scale, but I am fairly certain I am more accurate than not.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I've lost about 2 pounds each of the last four weeks, a little over or a little under depending on the week. Prior to that it was closer to about 1.5 pounds, the losses have sped up recently (which feel quite nice, but I don't understand way, I've always stayed close the calorie goal).

    Are you weighing your food where possible and logging accurately? Is the 1,400 net or gross?

    The 1400 is the combination of food (plus) and exercise (minus). I am making healthy food choices (lean meats, lots of veggies, some fruits, trying to reduce carbs and sugar). I feel good, not weak and I usually feel content, not hungry. I am not weighing, but measuring food and using labels to cross check measurements on things as well as research online. I need to get a scale, but I am fairly certain I am more accurate than not.

    Oh, you gotta borrow a scale then.

    Even if you are measuring volume correctly, that's not where the problem is.
    Look at any food label, for non-liquids the basing of serving size is on ....... weight, grams. The volume measurement is there merely for ease of use, and it's rough, sometimes very much so.
    People are shocked how badly their measured tablespoon of peanut butter is 2x the actual weight serving size, 200 cal instead of 100 cal.

    As to the servings per package, ever taken the total stated weight of the package, and divided by the weight per serving?
    The claimed "about 2 servings per package" could be as high as 2.25 to 2.45 actually, from ones I've seen. Have a bunch of those in one day, you are well over what you think you are eating. Even liquids do that part, soup notably.

    Oh, 1400 gross means in total, is that what the food diary says you ate total for the day. That's what is needed.
    Net is when you actually ate 1900, but logged 500 calorie burn and MFP shows net as 1400 still.

    So saying 1400 food (plus) and exercise (minus) kind of makes it sound like you are saying net, but that could also mean you ate total 1400 and that was raised higher because of exercise. Without exercise you might have eaten 1200 perhaps.
  • ahszabo
    ahszabo Posts: 7 Member
    I've lost about 2 pounds each of the last four weeks, a little over or a little under depending on the week. Prior to that it was closer to about 1.5 pounds, the losses have sped up recently (which feel quite nice, but I don't understand way, I've always stayed close the calorie goal).

    Are you weighing your food where possible and logging accurately? Is the 1,400 net or gross?

    The 1400 is the combination of food (plus) and exercise (minus). I am making healthy food choices (lean meats, lots of veggies, some fruits, trying to reduce carbs and sugar). I feel good, not weak and I usually feel content, not hungry. I am not weighing, but measuring food and using labels to cross check measurements on things as well as research online. I need to get a scale, but I am fairly certain I am more accurate than not.

    Oh, you gotta borrow a scale then.

    Even if you are measuring volume correctly, that's not where the problem is.
    Look at any food label, for non-liquids the basing of serving size is on ....... weight, grams. The volume measurement is there merely for ease of use, and it's rough, sometimes very much so.
    People are shocked how badly their measured tablespoon of peanut butter is 2x the actual weight serving size, 200 cal instead of 100 cal.

    As to the servings per package, ever taken the total stated weight of the package, and divided by the weight per serving?
    The claimed "about 2 servings per package" could be as high as 2.25 to 2.45 actually, from ones I've seen. Have a bunch of those in one day, you are well over what you think you are eating. Even liquids do that part, soup notably.

    Oh, 1400 gross means in total, is that what the food diary says you ate total for the day. That's what is needed.
    Net is when you actually ate 1900, but logged 500 calorie burn and MFP shows net as 1400 still.

    So saying 1400 food (plus) and exercise (minus) kind of makes it sound like you are saying net, but that could also mean you ate total 1400 and that was raised higher because of exercise. Without exercise you might have eaten 1200 perhaps.

    Yes, the net total of calories is at 1400. I will get a scale and try that out too. Thanks! So far I've been really pleased with how the tool of MFP has helped me to lose weight. I've not been able to steadily do this before. I like the clear target, the help with logging calories and exercise. I feel very successful and very happy about the results. 20 pounds in 2.5 months, looking forward to losing more. I'm sure I'll hit a plateau at some point, but so far so good! I'm enjoying being more active and as I've gotten used to being more careful about food choices there are days I struggle to hit my calorie goal (but I do!), and I mean by not eating enough calories.
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  • Amanda0926
    Amanda0926 Posts: 108 Member
    I'm sure I'm making this harder then it has to be, but I'm confused!
    I don't know what my LBM is.
    I'll try googling it. lol
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I'm sure I'm making this harder then it has to be, but I'm confused!
    I don't know what my LBM is.
    I'll try googling it. lol

    Lean Body Mass, also called Fat-Free Mass, is everything but Fat Mass.

    So if you know your weight and can estimate your bodyfat to 5% accuracy, you have good handle on LBM, since your body is made up of only those 2 general categories.

    So whatever you can think of in your body that is not fat, that's LBM. That includes required water. Not retained water from high sodium meal or because of hard workout.
  • Amanda0926
    Amanda0926 Posts: 108 Member
    Thank yoy!
    I'm sure I'm making this harder then it has to be, but I'm confused!
    I don't know what my LBM is.
    I'll try googling it. lol

    Lean Body Mass, also called Fat-Free Mass, is everything but Fat Mass.

    So if you know your weight and can estimate your bodyfat to 5% accuracy, you have good handle on LBM, since your body is made up of only those 2 general categories.

    So whatever you can think of in your body that is not fat, that's LBM. That includes required water. Not retained water from high sodium meal or because of hard workout.
  • Razzzzle
    Razzzzle Posts: 40 Member
    Hi Guys,

    Just joined the group as I am thinking of switching over to TDEE instead of the MFP suggested.

    Just after a check to see if I have done the workings out correctly.

    Currently 239lb
    Height: 67 inch
    Age: 26

    I have put these into the scoobys workshop calculator and have set the activity level to 3-5 hrs moderate activity.

    This is giving me the following:

    BMR - 2228
    TDEE - 3453

    TDEE minus 25% - 2600

    So by this I should be eating 2600 cals and not eating back exercise cals whitch I get.

    I used BB.com LBM calculator to calulate my LBM and its come up at 122lb so my calculations for macro's are below ( can someone check these for me?)

    Protein - 122g (set to 130g / 20% in MFP)
    Fats - 80g (239*0.35 = 87g / 30% in MFP)
    Carbs - 300g (the left overs 50% in MFP)

    Can someone let me know i these look correct?

    Thanks in advance.

    Mr Razzzle :)
  • NutellaAddict
    NutellaAddict Posts: 1,258 Member
    IMO protein is too low. I personally aim for 1 gm/lb. But wait for the real experts ;) In addition, I follow the IIFYM calculator.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Hi Guys,

    Just joined the group as I am thinking of switching over to TDEE instead of the MFP suggested.

    Just after a check to see if I have done the workings out correctly.

    Currently 239lb
    Height: 67 inch
    Age: 26

    I have put these into the scoobys workshop calculator and have set the activity level to 3-5 hrs moderate activity.

    This is giving me the following:

    BMR - 2228
    TDEE - 3453

    TDEE minus 25% - 2600

    So by this I should be eating 2600 cals and not eating back exercise cals whitch I get.

    I used BB.com LBM calculator to calulate my LBM and its come up at 122lb so my calculations for macro's are below ( can someone check these for me?)

    Protein - 122g (set to 130g / 20% in MFP)
    Fats - 80g (239*0.35 = 87g / 30% in MFP)
    Carbs - 300g (the left overs 50% in MFP)

    Can someone let me know i these look correct?

    Thanks in advance.

    Mr Razzzle :)

    Hi! Can you link the bb.com page where you estimated your LBM. My LBM is at least that and I am an inch shorter and female.
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  • twixlepennie
    twixlepennie Posts: 1,074 Member
    Hi-new to the group and would love some help getting me started!
    -I'm 35 yrs old, female
    -5ft, 6in
    -in maintenance, do not want to lose any more weight
    -exercise has been up to this point walking and running (usually a 2 mile combination), 4-6 times a week. I also started doing modified pushups on the trail fence where I walk/run

    My weight range has held pretty steady in the 118-121lb range (this morning I weighed 119.5lbs) for several months now.
    I haven't really been tracking calories/macros for maintenance but did start a few days ago, to get a feel for where I'm at. Looking at the numbers what stands out is that my protein is really low, like 25-35g range.

    For the winter months I want to do less walking/running and start Mark Lauren's strength training programs (first Body by You and then You Are Your Own Gym). This led me to the IIFYM site and I just calculated my numbers-dang, that's a lot of protein :noway:

    If I'm doing it correctly it has me at (entered 6 days of exercise, for 3 days of strength training and 3 days of walking/running)
    BMR 1253
    TDEE 1887
    Protein-119
    Fat-47.6
    Carbs-245.7
    Fiber-24-30

    Compare that with my day yesterday-1,299 calories and 28 grams of protein :tongue:

    Just wondering if those numbers sound right for maintaining and my new winter routine M, W, F -30 minutes of body strength exercises/Mark Lauren's programs, T/TH/S- 2-3 miles of walking/running combination. Rest on Sunday.

    Anything you'd tweak?

    Thanks!
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  • Ideabaker
    Ideabaker Posts: 514 Member
    I really needed this; thanks so much for posting!