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KickboxDiva wrote: »Ok this might be a weird question but being a vodka loving girl I have to ask. Heybales, why did you ask her that and saranharm, why do you do shots nightly? Is that a coincidence or did I miss some health benefit I need to know about?
A hard drink if not normally done (sorry Saranharm) or a higher carb day if normally they are low have been seen to be a means of causing a decent weight drop.
It's as if the body is holding on to water in the fat cells (dieter's edema) in prep of storing more carbs or something it really doesn't need the water for - and those 2 things cause the "whoosh" many will experience when they unstress the body while in a diet.
Could happen eating close to maintenance too, though not as likely. But still, worth a shot! Get it, a shot ..... oh, never mind....
http://www.leangains.com/2010/01/how-to-deal-with-water-retention-part.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.html
Now - where's my whiskey!
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Forgot to update earlier this week:
Dec 7- 160.2
Dec 14- 162.2
Dec 21- 162.0
Dec 28- 164.6
jan 4- 164.4
Dec 12ish- using the happy scale app i've had weights between 163.4 and 165, settling back towards 164.something by the end of the week.
Ate 2410 cals average last week though.
Didn't weigh in or track food yesterday. Won't weigh in today or tomorrow but will track food.0 -
Great thread!0
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After 13 days at 2400 calories, my weights have been at:
164
163.6
163.6
163.8
165
164.2
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165.4
165.2
165.2
164.6
Bumping up to 2500 calories0 -
I love seeing your updates!!0
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Jennifer_Lynn_1982 wrote: »I love seeing your updates!!
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go go go. can't wait to see where you end up!
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* following also !!
@saranharm - This is such a great thread - thanks for sharing your updates. Its really helpful as im just starting out increasing up to TDEE. Look forward to the next update !0 -
justsayinisall wrote: »go go go. can't wait to see where you end up!* following also !!
@saranharm - This is such a great thread - thanks for sharing your updates. Its really helpful as im just starting out increasing up to TDEE. Look forward to the next update !
I enjoyed similar threads when i first joined so i wanted to do the same. Also, its another place to store my info and get some feedback.0 -
You are doing so great. Especially as you didn't just quit and go back to 1200 calorie when you saw a little gain on the scale. How are you fining the lifting with a little more fuel on board? Getting any strength gains there? Keep going!0
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rastaempress wrote: »You are doing so great. Especially as you didn't just quit and go back to 1200 calorie when you saw a little gain on the scale. How are you fining the lifting with a little more fuel on board? Getting any strength gains there? Keep going!
+1 Great determination! I look forward to seeing your future updates!!!0 -
rastaempress wrote: »You are doing so great. Especially as you didn't just quit and go back to 1200 calorie when you saw a little gain on the scale. How are you fining the lifting with a little more fuel on board? Getting any strength gains there? Keep going!XavierNusum wrote: »rastaempress wrote: »You are doing so great. Especially as you didn't just quit and go back to 1200 calorie when you saw a little gain on the scale. How are you fining the lifting with a little more fuel on board? Getting any strength gains there? Keep going!
+1 Great determination! I look forward to seeing your future updates!!!
Thank you!
I just finished an endurance phase of lifting and am now doing a hypertrophy phase. I haven't tested pr's or anything but i feel much better in the gym. I was deadlifting 135 5 times. Now i've been doing 9 sets of 10 at 115 so i know i can blow 135 out of the water.
Can't wait for strength phase next - 2 weeks0 -
That is so exiting!! I love it when old weights seem easy, can't wait to see your PR's once the strength phase starts for you too!0
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Thank you!
I just finished an endurance phase of lifting and am now doing a hypertrophy phase. I haven't tested pr's or anything but i feel much better in the gym. I was deadlifting 135 5 times. Now i've been doing 9 sets of 10 at 115 so i know i can blow 135 out of the water.
Can't wait for strength phase next - 2 weeks
That's awesome progress! Being in a hypertrophy phase you want to concentrate on "rep PR's". Like you 9x10x110. You could potentially break the sets up like this:
5x110
5x110
5x110
AMAPx110 (as many reps as possible)
Record your AMAP numbers and compare them as you go through your hypertrophy phase.0 -
XavierNusum wrote: »That's awesome progress! Being in a hypertrophy phase you want to concentrate on "rep PR's". Like you 9x10x110. You could potentially break the sets up like this:
5x110
5x110
5x110
AMAPx110 (as many reps as possible)
Record your AMAP numbers and compare them as you go through your hypertrophy phase.
Thanks.
Right now i'm using kiki's plans and its set up to alternating deadlifts (x10) and ball plank twists (x25)- set of 3 and then repeat that circuit twice.
I'm going to keep your advice in mine for
My next hypertrophy phase.0 -
With weight gain how do you know it's water weight vs. true fat gain? That's what I struggle with with finding my tdee.0
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With weight gain how do you know it's water weight vs. true fat gain? That's what I struggle with with finding my tdee.
Fat is not fast, lost or gained.
And after some initial differences - there is no more water weight big fluctuations over weekly time periods - daily sure.
Like if you have just started increasing calories from a low level - could have couple weeks of increased carb storage causing faster water weight gain.
But unless the workouts keep improving so much to store more carbs - that type of increase levels out to maybe just a little more if you are actually improving in intensity or duration of carb burning workouts.
But fat gain pretty much is close to the loss formula - 1 lb change requires a difference of 3500 calories over the course of whatever time you are looking at.
Gain takes slightly more calories because you don't store as fat all the extra that you eat as some calories are used in processing, that's the burn formula though pretty close.
So if you gain 1 lb slowly over 2 weeks with valid weigh-ins - you could be eating 250 daily over true TDEE.
That is assuming you are not still in increased eating phase nor initial leveling phase.
And then that 250 extra eating over true TDEE must at least appear valid.
Like if you are pretty sure you under-estimated activity level, then could be something else.
Food logging could enter in to that too.
250 more daily is about 10% if eating around 2000-2500 - acceptable and expected level of inaccuracy - so you adjust for it.
But that much more eating around 1200 is just sloppy logging probably.0 -
How do we begin?0
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@doosalily15 what are you wanting to start?0
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excellent! I sometimes wonder if having the Fitbit HR is helpful. I hate non gym days because I only get to eat around 2000 lol0
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justsayinisall wrote: »excellent! I sometimes wonder if having the Fitbit HR is helpful. I hate non gym days because I only get to eat around 2000 lol
Sounds so sad! Lol!
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Wow a reset on 2400 :-) Happy days ! I'm hoping when I approach Reset my cals will be sufficiently UP like yours :-)0
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Remember - if really eating only 100 over potential TDEE - it would take 35 days of that to show an extra pound slowly being gained.0 -
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Too long - hence the 2 week 250 test when you think you are at TDEE already.
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2 weeks eat 250 more daily than you were.
If truly over TDEE by 250 then there would be a slow 1 lb weight gain over that 2 weeks.
Of course need valid weigh-ins on both sides of that to minimize expected water weight fluctuations.
So 5 meat pizza night the day before is out, as is endurance cardio workout and light meal afterwards, or killer lifting routine.
Also need the correct 2 weeks during your cycle to minimize that expected change in BMR and water weight.
If weight stays the same or drops - your potential daily burn either sped up or body became more unstressed and dropped water weight.
If weight increases faster at once - you appear to have had more glucose stores to top off with attached water.
If weight is that 1 lb only - your prior level was indeed TDEE.
And if lifting during this time - won't even be all fat, but it'll still be slow.0
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