Cathartic Thread For Injured Runners, er support for managing injuries. ;-)
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@shanaber she was pleased with progress, all my contractures have just about gone now and she's happy with and approves of me building back up following c25k then keep slowly building from there. She even approved my 'only 5 or 10k races until the autumn and a possible HM in November' comment :-)
I have to go back every 4-6 weeks for her to 'sort my muscles out', but she's on holiday in March so it will actually only be 3 weeks this time. Expensive but worth it so far. Still managed to find sore spots and leave bruises on them even though the muscles are supposedly better though, evil indeed!4 -
That is great news!
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@shanaber Yeah, I was so happy (and frustrated the weather was so horrific on Friday I had to stick to the dreadmill) to get out and run a bit this morning that even though it was bloody cold (for our standards) and blowing a gale I was jogging along singing my head off with a Cheshire cat grin plastered across my face. Got a few very funny looks from the bikers and drivers lol. It's frustrating holding myself back and forcing myself to respect the C25k intervals, but I realise I need to be sensible and not overdo it again. So looking forward to that much-dreaded 20 minute non-stop run on Saturday!
How are you getting on, has the pool heated up yet?
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@eleanorhawkins - we haven't turned the heater back on yet. It has been storming here with significant rain and cold (not cold like the middle of the US though) so we are just waiting to even try again. Maybe later this week.
I am pretty sure I know that smile and have gotten similar reactions here! Glad you were able to get out for a run! I am hoping to get out for a walk with Hobbes between/before the rain this next week.1 -
I saw the PT this morning. Actually got to run a mile or so on the treadmill while he watched and took video of my legs and feet while I ran. I always thought I was a mid-foot strike but nope, I heel strike which is ok but he thought I might want a shoe with a more cushioned heel and a bit of drop rather than my 0 drop shoes. He was fine with me staying with what I have though if they are working for me. Even though I have pretty bad pronation on my right foot (one with the injury) and not much on my left at all, he thinks we can probably manage it without new orthotics. He will likely give me a bunch of stick on pads to use instead to support/protect the metatarsal.
I got excited and forgot to ask him some important questions like if I can increase my walking distance and if I can add in some (more) running. I sent an email and am hoping I will hear back tomorrow... I'm not anxious to get out there at all you know 😁
Also I was real surprised at how out of breath I was just running that 1+ mile. Wow... not good! Maybe it was nerves I don't know but made me feel really out of shape.5 -
@shanaber oh God I always do that with medical types, get stressed out and just go blank. I used to scoff at the 'write your questions down and take them with you' suggestions but now I see the point of that!
Sounds like good stuff all in all though, glad for you! I hear you on the out of breath thing too, everyone says not to worry so much and you don't lose your condition as quickly as you think but in my case I lost a lot VERY quickly. I went from running a HM to stuggling 2 months later to run for 10 minutes.2 -
@eleanorhawkins - it has been almost 4 months for me but I had hoped the cycling I was doing was helping at least a little bit but I guess not.
I am going to start with some very short run intervals - 5 min walk 1 min run and see how that goes.1 -
@eleanorhawkins - it has been almost 4 months for me but I had hoped the cycling I was doing was helping at least a little bit but I guess not.
I am going to start with some very short run intervals - 5 min walk 1 min run and see how that goes.
Sounds good... as I was under strict orders to take it really gently I started over with C25k. Frustrating as heck at first but now I'm onto the last weeks of it it's better.
I think probably part of the problem, for me at least, is mental rather than really physical. At least I hope so!
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March 6th is my surgery date. I shouldn't expect to run for 6-12 months, if ever. *Pshaw* whateves doc, i wanna be the story you tell the next fdo sx. Cycling will probably need to be my main focus from here on, which i gather i can do fairly soon (compared to running). The doc is a marathoner himself, so... Runner says no run, but the aim is to keep me running. Aw i think he's just not getting my hopes up.
Both my femurs are rotated and the hip sockets themselves. So... That could be responsible for the previous issues I've had. Good to know.
Good thing dh got this baby beary (not what dh wants to name him, but I've slept on the couch with him two nights now because he is a baby) to take care of.. (I'm kidding. Hes great but too much of a baby, and finally with an imodium dose, isnt pooping on everything and smells much better). I miss my grown up baby cat, thats not taking this so well, with the loss "baby" status.
Now the count down begins.6 -
Wow @elise4270 - not at all the news you were hoping to hear! I hope he is wrong and like you said just not letting you get your hopes up and then be disappointed that you can't run for a while. We will just plan to meet and run in Hawaii in 2021 instead of 2020!
I hope the other kitties accept your beary (boo beary) soon so you can all snuggle on the couch!2 -
Wow @elise4270 - not at all the news you were hoping to hear! I hope he is wrong and like you said just not letting you get your hopes up and then be disappointed that you can't run for a while. We will just plan to meet and run in Hawaii in 2021 instead of 2020!
I hope the other kitties accept your beary (boo beary) soon so you can all snuggle on the couch!
Nah Eric's already finding me bike rides in Hawaii. Yay!
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I managed back-to-back runs this weekend. Even though I'm not advised to do that by my PT, I wanted to test the waters. I figured my hips would get really tight, but in actuality it was not problematic at all and this has been my most painless week since my injury. Very happy about that!3
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Evil physio just introduced me to dry needling. Ouch.
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eleanorhawkins wrote: »Evil physio just introduced me to dry needling. Ouch.
Yes, but did it help?
I did my intervals again today... My legs are still so sore from Strength Training on Tuesday with lots of squats and core work that I wasn't sure that I would finish my run. I also had a little niggling in my foot again when I was walking. I don't know if it was real or if I am just hyper sensitive that I might hurt it again. Once I got up to the actual paved trail though my foot felt fine and I was able to finish with a bit over 3 miles. I did take it much slower overall so that may have helped my foot too. My legs were just too sore to go any faster.
I see the PT and the Ortho doc again next week so maybe I will be able to increase my running a bit more.0 -
@shanaber last night I would have said no, this morning I think possibly yes! Trouble was I had walked there, then had to walk home fast (husband was supposed to be picking our daughter up from class but got distracted by a flat tyre *sigh*) and walking on the 'bad leg' after she dug around in there with a needle made me entire calf seize up. Felt sick by the time I got home, I guess it was the wimp's equivalent of running with a cramp.
Then I had to stand and do the ironing for an hour, so by the time I got to go to bed it was pretty painful. Stuck a heated pad on it and this morning it doesn't seem to hurt anywhere near as much, and the sore spot underneath seems to have gone. Hopefully by tomorrow I'll be able to run on it.
Fingers crossed they give you the green light for more running. Slow definitely seems to be the way to go!1 -
Oh gosh I have flashbacks to dry needling.
I will say by the third session the cramping was not as bad and resolved faster.0 -
Oh gosh I have flashbacks to dry needling.
I will say by the third session the cramping was not as bad and resolved faster.
All I could think as I read third session was UGH lol. My calves actually feel like brand new now, but my knees feel very tired today and legs feel like they weigh a ton and a half or so. Guess that's what they mean by leaden legs...1 -
@eleanorhawkins and @sarahthes - wow that sounds intense! Not sure I could do it...
Maybe your legs are tired and leaden from trying to walk home fast after she worked on them so much. Especially if your gait was a bit different to compensate?0 -
I could barely move after my first 2 sessions! When the needle hit the spot it made my entire leg contract from ankle to butt.0
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@shanaber yes I think that's part of the problem, plus Thursdays are heavy duty days for me as it is because I run and strength train AND stretch so they are allowed to be grumpy with me today. Only today though cause tomorrow they have to run, and Sunday they have to hike!
I was phobic about needles when I was young, then when I was pregnant I had gestational diabetes so there was a LOT of drawing blood and pricking my fingers to check my sugar levels. THEN I was given a lot of nasty psoriasis treatments that I had to learn to inject myself with, so let's just say I'm not bothered by needles any more. I really didn't notice them apart from a little sting on the way in, until she started digging about with the ones where the muscles weren't relaxing on their own. It was... interesting...
@sarahthes I actually asked her if she's ever been kicked doing that, cause I was sure at any moment the spasms were going to make my leg jerk up and smack her in the mouth!
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I just had a dry needling session last Friday. I want to say it did provide immediate relief, but now I can't tell if the pain I have been having (for the first time in two weeks) was related to that session or the weird way I sat at dinner that night (bar stools are tricky with how I have to position my hip when I sit).0
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I was as well and also pretty terrified of doctors and hospitals. I was diagnosed with rheumatic fever when I was around 13 and had to had bi-weekly blood tests and lots of penicillin and steroid shots for a year. My arms looked like I was a junky and I still have scars. I am no longer afraid of needles or blood draws either... not sure how I would feel about the needle moving around in my muscle though.eleanorhawkins wrote: »I was phobic about needles when I was young, then when I was pregnant I had gestational diabetes so there was a LOT of drawing blood and pricking my fingers to check my sugar levels. THEN I was given a lot of nasty psoriasis treatments that I had to learn to inject myself with, so let's just say I'm not bothered by needles any more. I really didn't notice them apart from a little sting on the way in, until she started digging about with the ones where the muscles weren't relaxing on their own. It was... interesting...
I am so looking forward to my PT and Ortho appointments this week and hoping for good news. I probably need to tamp it back a bit though just in case so I am not utterly disappointed if it isn't what I want to hear.2 -
I was as well and also pretty terrified of doctors and hospitals. I was diagnosed with rheumatic fever when I was around 13 and had to had bi-weekly blood tests and lots of penicillin and steroid shots for a year. My arms looked like I was a junky and I still have scars. I am no longer afraid of needles or blood draws either... not sure how I would feel about the needle moving around in my muscle though.eleanorhawkins wrote: »I was phobic about needles when I was young, then when I was pregnant I had gestational diabetes so there was a LOT of drawing blood and pricking my fingers to check my sugar levels. THEN I was given a lot of nasty psoriasis treatments that I had to learn to inject myself with, so let's just say I'm not bothered by needles any more. I really didn't notice them apart from a little sting on the way in, until she started digging about with the ones where the muscles weren't relaxing on their own. It was... interesting...
I am so looking forward to my PT and Ortho appointments this week and hoping for good news. I probably need to tamp it back a bit though just in case so I am not utterly disappointed if it isn't what I want to hear.
Fingers crossed it will be what you want to hear, even if it ends up being a dampened down version of what you want to hear!
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Oh man... dh is unhappy. He’s stressed over the upcoming surgery, while I’m excited to be “fixed”. Anyone else have a spouse that gets, uh.... upset? He didn’t the last 2, but I think that’s because I was miserable. This time I’m only half miserable so he doesn’t see it. As i stand next to him talking and stretch my hip down to illicit a audible “crack” from my SI joint.... maybe I flex my hip for a follow up “pop/snap” too? Ah well... I know it’s gonna be rough on him. I’ll have to come here and cry as not to give him reason to give me the stink eye for complaining how much I hurt. 2-3 days in the hospital isn’t going to be exciting for him either...4
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Elise - I am sure he is worried and hates to see you hurting. Especially when there isn't anything he can really do to help. You can come here anytime and cry, scream, or whatever. Hang in there!2
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I saw the orthopedist this morning. He is very happy with my progress and has cut me free to start building up my running base again! WhooHoo!!! He also said my May HM was perfect timing to see how I progress and how I do with the race distance! I have already been looking at training plans that build up the distance gradually so now I need to decide on one that is appropriate. I have 10 weeks to train and build which should be plenty of time. I won't however have my new orthotics for about a month but that will still give me enough time to adjust to them before the race.3
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Super stuff! Have a look at Hal Higdon's plans.... the novice ones are very low mileage and he also has 3 day ones0
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Thanks @eleanorhawkins! I have used Higdon's plans in the past1
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Great news, @shanaber !
I haven't posted in this thread much lately and I think/hope/pray I'm out of recovery mode and solidly into buildup mode. I had a couple of anxious weeks prior to my 20 mile race due to increased pain in my foot after one particularly hard, twisty trail run, but I came out of the race with my foot feeling great. This past Saturday I had another tough, twisty trail run with no ill effects, other than general soreness all over.
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