WAISTAWAYS TEAM CHAT - JUNE 2019
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I've recently switched back to eating more carbs (never cut them out, just had less bread, pasta, etc) as I was suffering from mild hypoglycemia. My doctor checked me over and said it's all normal but suggested I found a better balance. So I've started including more carbs again (Weetabix in the morning, more fruit and a little bread) and feel much better but now I'm so hungry all the time (and overeat most days). I'm wondering if the hunger could have anything to do with changes to my diet? Or is it unrelated? Any insight?
I'm not a medical doctor, but one thing I discovered about myself years ago that may be helpful to you, @Perla4686, is that I can only eat whole grain breads, pastas, and rice. If eat the regular versions of these things, I crash so bad, so fast. I mean it gets really bad. Like one minute I'm up and talking, the next minute I'm sound asleep like a legally drugged kinda sleep. But the whole grains give me the carbs I need and keep my blood sugars balanced. I don't crash and burn anymore. And no, I'm not diabetic or pre-diabetic. I just can't handle the carb overload that enriched white breads, pastas, and rice deliver.
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evangsimmons170 wrote: »Andreabroadley wrote: »Had a little run-in with some cake on Father's Day. Mainly in response to getting my ultrasound test result back onlline, which was negative. Interesting that one can get good news, and still be emotionally eating!
Back on it today. Sorry to my co-challengers, I blew some points!
But was the cake good?
This. Eating cake isn't bad. Eating half the cake or more is bad.
This weekend was my brother's birthday. I had a piece of cake and an amazing coffee drink with 3 liquors in it. (My brother is a bartender.) For me, I have to allow these things from time to time or I'll obsess over not having them. But if it isn't good, I stop. I'm not wasting my intake on something not delicious.7 -
The book I mentioned is "The Last 15" by Joey Shulman.2
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evangsimmons170 wrote: »Andreabroadley wrote: »Had a little run-in with some cake on Father's Day. Mainly in response to getting my ultrasound test result back onlline, which was negative. Interesting that one can get good news, and still be emotionally eating!
Back on it today. Sorry to my co-challengers, I blew some points!
But was the cake good?
Yeah - was it? Sounds like you had some stuff to celebrate, and you'll be racking up points tomorrow, right?
It was really good. Lemon cranberry loaf. From "Sweets of The Earth". Vegan. Hard to believe something vegan could taste so good.
I was back at it yesterday, although I went out for dinner with a friend. I had to use mindful eating to manage it. Delicious middle eastern stuff at a Toronto restaurant called Jerusalem - hummus, baba ganoush, eggplant, falafel, tomatoes. When I was full, I stopped, even though I had not "eaten my share.:"5 -
The question of your personal WHY is a very powerful one. And yes, it is amazing how much we don't want to admit (even to ourselves) a WHY that doesn't fit "social expectations" or "political correctness".
I will have to save more the more personal aspects of my answer for later - but I think that we have to honestly admit that whatever the actual root - it will be some form of "selfish" doing-this-for-me if it is going to stick. If it doesn't somehow tie back to that, you will eventually rebel or drift away, or something else with a higher personal priority will subtly take over your efforts.
A seemingly surface "social expectation" sticker might still LOOK like it applies ... like "I am doing this to be a role-model for my children" .... but that actually ties back to "selfishly getting a positive-reinforcement rush from actively teaching them to naturally and automatically turn to health-living choices in all areas of their lives - and seeing the payoff"
Maslov's Hierarchy of Needs. The highest level, self-actualization. But to GET to that level, your own more direct basic needs have to be met (or mostly met).
Thoughts on my take on the theoretical side? More on the personal "as applies to BMcC9" practical application side later.
It DOES include the "selfishness" of clothing aesthetics .... and also the practicality of no longer being afraid that I will have changed pattern sizes between the time the I cut out a sewing project, and the time I finish hemming it ....
I love how you incorporated Maslov's Hierarchy of Needs! (I minored in psych as an undergrad and grad student.) And yes, I totally agree with your theoretical perspective. I'm also impressed that you sew! I'm actually a certified dressmaker, although I haven't had time to sew since becoming a school administrator. But I absolutely love sewing. The options are endless, and you can truly create a signature look all your own. As much as I love to sew, I absolutely hate making alterations. I hate it so much that I don't do them, even on my own clothes. I'd rather start from scratch. And if you need a size smaller, how exciting is that to have to make something new for the new you?! Hats off to ya!
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I love the why question! And thank you @evangsimmons170 for sharing your own why. The funny thing about why questions is that sometimes people may not know the real reasons why they are motivated to do something. Why are you changing jobs? Why are you moving? Why are you studying X, Y, or Z? I've come to realize that sometimes the answers I've given people aren't true, even though I believed it at the time. There are a couple of "why's" that have come up in my life that I believed I knew the answer but it wasn't until years later when I wasn't so close to the question, that I could honestly answer it. Does that make sense? I'm getting off topic. Sorry.
I started losing weight in my later 20's. I was morbidly obese. My mom died just shy of 60 years old when I was 27. She was a tiny woman, maybe just slightly overweight, only because she never learned to drive and walked dozens of miles a day. However, she had a terrible diet and was a multi-pack-a-day smoker. She had a sweet tooth which she fed constantly, despite being diabetic, and her cholesterol numbers were through the roof (450+ range). She would eat whatever she wanted saying, "I took meds. they gave me, I'm allowed." She would pass out from the diabetes and lie to doctors. It was very frustrating to deal with her.
Just as an example, if she was going to serve green beans, she wouldn't cook them in water, she would cook them in butter. She would easily go through pounds of butter a day in cooking. My siblings and I would point out to her that her drink of choice, iced coffee, was a cholesterol cocktail. A simple change and she could cut massive amounts of cholesterol from her diet. She wouldn't even try it. It was very frustrating. Our family was pretty much expecting her to be found in a diabetic coma or have a massive stroke at any time. Meanwhile my dad worked to quit smoking and was making serious efforts to change his diet, despite my mom's sabotage.
It was that frustration with my mom being so completely unwilling to make even a small change to literally save her life, that started me on losing weight. I was young and had big plans and the thought that I wouldn't be able to do them because I was unwilling to make an effort is what fueled me.
My mom found out she had lung cancer and died within a few months. My dad, siblings, and I have all gone through that time of being angry that she didn't care enough about herself, my dad, her kids, her grandchildren, or the grandchildren to come to even try.
I successfully lost well over 100 pounds back then. I've gotten sloppy and gained some back over time, so here I am at 50 years old. But my why is still the same. I have one body for this life. If I'm going to make the most of it, I need to take care of it. If I get hit by a car or develop a disease out of my control, fine. I'll deal with it. But if my life is cut short because I was lazy, that will piss me off. LOL7 -
Andreabroadley wrote: »The book I mentioned is "The Last 15" by Joey Shulman.
Just checked .... it IS in my public library1 -
My personal why is... fear, I guess. I'm afraid that if I don't do something I'll get sick and be a drain on my husband's whole life. My health has already had impacts on how we live.
I'm afraid of going back on the cholesterol drugs. They were actual hell. I hit a point where the joint pain was so bad I couldn't lift my arms enough to brush my own hair. I slept all the time and didn't even have enough stamina to watch a TV show or read.
And I'm afraid of death. We never found out why my mom died a few weeks before her 50th birthday. Just... never woke up. I never want my loved ones to go through what we went through. I don't know if the thing that killed mom is in me, but losing weight can only reduce those odds.7 -
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evangsimmons170 wrote: »I've recently switched back to eating more carbs (never cut them out, just had less bread, pasta, etc) as I was suffering from mild hypoglycemia. My doctor checked me over and said it's all normal but suggested I found a better balance. So I've started including more carbs again (Weetabix in the morning, more fruit and a little bread) and feel much better but now I'm so hungry all the time (and overeat most days). I'm wondering if the hunger could have anything to do with changes to my diet? Or is it unrelated? Any insight?
I'm not a medical doctor, but one thing I discovered about myself years ago that may be helpful to you, @Perla4686, is that I can only eat whole grain breads, pastas, and rice. If eat the regular versions of these things, I crash so bad, so fast. I mean it gets really bad. Like one minute I'm up and talking, the next minute I'm sound asleep like a legally drugged kinda sleep. But the whole grains give me the carbs I need and keep my blood sugars balanced. I don't crash and burn anymore. And no, I'm not diabetic or pre-diabetic. I just can't handle the carb overload that enriched white breads, pastas, and rice deliver.
Just my 2 cents.
I'm not diabetic or pre-diabetic but my grandad and dad became dietetic in their 60's so I'm wary of it. I have hypothyroidism, not sure if that makes a difference.1 -
HEHEHEHEHE I AM BACK AT IT AGAIN
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Sorry I've been down with a horrible Kidney infection so I've not really been all the ball with weigh in and also eating.
I just weighed and I'm 189lbs.5 -
I love the why question! And thank you @evangsimmons170 for sharing your own why. The funny thing about why questions is that sometimes people may not know the real reasons why they are motivated to do something. Why are you changing jobs? Why are you moving? Why are you studying X, Y, or Z? I've come to realize that sometimes the answers I've given people aren't true, even though I believed it at the time. There are a couple of "why's" that have come up in my life that I believed I knew the answer but it wasn't until years later when I wasn't so close to the question, that I could honestly answer it. Does that make sense? I'm getting off topic. Sorry.
I started losing weight in my later 20's. I was morbidly obese. My mom died just shy of 60 years old when I was 27. She was a tiny woman, maybe just slightly overweight, only because she never learned to drive and walked dozens of miles a day. However, she had a terrible diet and was a multi-pack-a-day smoker. She had a sweet tooth which she fed constantly, despite being diabetic, and her cholesterol numbers were through the roof (450+ range). She would eat whatever she wanted saying, "I took meds. they gave me, I'm allowed." She would pass out from the diabetes and lie to doctors. It was very frustrating to deal with her.
Just as an example, if she was going to serve green beans, she wouldn't cook them in water, she would cook them in butter. She would easily go through pounds of butter a day in cooking. My siblings and I would point out to her that her drink of choice, iced coffee, was a cholesterol cocktail. A simple change and she could cut massive amounts of cholesterol from her diet. She wouldn't even try it. It was very frustrating. Our family was pretty much expecting her to be found in a diabetic coma or have a massive stroke at any time. Meanwhile my dad worked to quit smoking and was making serious efforts to change his diet, despite my mom's sabotage.
It was that frustration with my mom being so completely unwilling to make even a small change to literally save her life, that started me on losing weight. I was young and had big plans and the thought that I wouldn't be able to do them because I was unwilling to make an effort is what fueled me.
My mom found out she had lung cancer and died within a few months. My dad, siblings, and I have all gone through that time of being angry that she didn't care enough about herself, my dad, her kids, her grandchildren, or the grandchildren to come to even try.
I successfully lost well over 100 pounds back then. I've gotten sloppy and gained some back over time, so here I am at 50 years old. But my why is still the same. I have one body for this life. If I'm going to make the most of it, I need to take care of it. If I get hit by a car or develop a disease out of my control, fine. I'll deal with it. But if my life is cut short because I was lazy, that will piss me off. LOL
Wow, @zlauerMom. What a deeply motivating story about your WHY. I'm sorry you lost your mom, but I'm glad that you're using that experience as a catalyst to be the healthiest you you can be. I'm also 50. My dad died when I was 17 and he was 42. (No that's not a typo.) He was morbidly obese, even after losing 150+ lbs. It was just too little too late. Like you, I tried to use that as a motivator for myself, considering the fact that I've struggled with my weight ALL of my life. But that didn't last. Time has a way of dulling the senses and the memories. My dad has been gone now for nearly 33 years; he never got to see the adult version of me. One motivator I have now from having gone through that loss (and I was a true blue Daddy's girl) is that even though I don't weigh even close to his lowest weight by the time of his death, I am still in the same medical category as he was: morbidly obese. And that just doesn't bode well with me, to say the least. In this half of my life, I want to leave a new legacy. Heretofore, I have absolutely NEVER been thin or even a healthy weight, except at birth, and I guess that doesn't count. Even when I lost 70 pounds 14 years ago, I was still overweight although I looked and felt amazing. I'm determined to find out what it feels like to shop on the "misses" side of the store. I was almost there before, but it didn't last long enough.
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The why question is definitely a good one to ponder, I agree. Even if you can't quite nail it perfectly. Not sure I have, but the ideas below have kept me going this year.
One of the meditations I have been doing this year is basically about being kinder to our bodies. I have found it helpful in that it one of the spoken elements in the meditation is "my body is my friend, my companion in life". I realized that I needed to treat my body as well as I treat my other friends.2 -
@evangsimmons170 thank you so much!! You are an inspiration to me as well and like you, I am hoping to walk my way out of the other two BP meds!! We can do this!!2
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evangsimmons170 wrote: »Wow, @zlauerMom. What a deeply motivating story about your WHY. I'm sorry you lost your mom, but I'm glad that you're using that experience as a catalyst to be the healthiest you you can be. I'm also 50. My dad died when I was 17 and he was 42. (No that's not a typo.) He was morbidly obese, even after losing 150+ lbs. It was just too little too late. Like you, I tried to use that as a motivator for myself, considering the fact that I've struggled with my weight ALL of my life. But that didn't last. Time has a way of dulling the senses and the memories. My dad has been gone now for nearly 33 years; he never got to see the adult version of me. One motivator I have now from having gone through that loss (and I was a true blue Daddy's girl) is that even though I don't weigh even close to his lowest weight by the time of his death, I am still in the same medical category as he was: morbidly obese. And that just doesn't bode well with me, to say the least. In this half of my life, I want to leave a new legacy. Heretofore, I have absolutely NEVER been thin or even a healthy weight, except at birth, and I guess that doesn't count. Even when I lost 70 pounds 14 years ago, I was still overweight although I looked and felt amazing. I'm determined to find out what it feels like to shop on the "misses" side of the store. I was almost there before, but it didn't last long enough.
To the new Us!
rereading my post, I see I wasn't fair to my mom. She was a truly amazing lady- very generous with her heart and her volunteerism. She volunteered in the chaplain's office at a local hospital and also for Hospice. All these years later, I still miss her terribly, which is probably why it is such and effective motivation for me.
I, too, never got out of the overweight range, but when you start out over 250 pounds, 20 pounds overweight feels pretty freakin' ideal to me.
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I've recently switched back to eating more carbs (never cut them out, just had less bread, pasta, etc) as I was suffering from mild hypoglycemia. My doctor checked me over and said it's all normal but suggested I found a better balance. So I've started including more carbs again (Weetabix in the morning, more fruit and a little bread) and feel much better but now I'm so hungry all the time (and overeat most days). I'm wondering if the hunger could have anything to do with changes to my diet? Or is it unrelated? Any insight?
You are singing my song. When I was working hard to lose, I tried all different balances of the macros (protein, carbs, fat). And different kinds of those things (plant vs meat, grains vs veg or legumes, etc.). It is really interesting!
The best way I found not to feel hungry all the time, and to keep myself on an even keel, is no grain (or very little). I get plenty of carbs from whole vegetables, legumes, fruits, and seeds. I have tons of vegetables, some fruits, and a moderate amount of legumes - that really seems to work for me as sources of carbs. Grains make me feel weird (accelerated heart rate) or digest badly (feel like lead in my stomach). Sometimes having brown rice or quinoa (which is not a grain, but a seed) works ok, and I have occasional grains, but in general feel best without any at all. If you are hungry, try to eat the most fibre possible. Avoid flour, cereal, pasta, but have the whole thing (vegetables, fruits, legumes). It is really filling, you can eat like a crazy person, and it has less impact on blood sugar. See if that helps. Good luck!3 -
evangsimmons170 wrote: »@jugar...I was inputting my stats on the beat your best spreadsheet and noticed that we have a newcomer this week whose totals are not included in the "total" formula for either team. I don't know which team he or she is on, but their username is @shockvalue07.
Thanks! She is on the Workout Warriors, and I'll check the formulas on the spreadsheet. She didn't show up last week, so I'll make sure it is all working. We are more even now - we have 5 team members, and they have 4 now. Cool!
By the way, the "beat your best" and the "game on" are two different things. This one is the "game on" challenge between our two teams. It is confusing!1 -
allieelliott17 wrote: »Sorry I've been down with a horrible Kidney infection so I've not really been all the ball with weigh in and also eating.
I just weighed and I'm 189lbs.
So good to hear from you! We had put you on the (very sad) "drop list" because you did not weigh in for 2 weeks in a row. This is good! You are back! Let me know if you'd like to stick with the team, and how we can help you as you recover. A kidney infection sounds like no fun at all. Hugs to you!2 -
I am blown away by the beautiful discussion going around WHY. @zlauerMom - what a story. It is so difficult when someone we love, and who has such great potential, has terrible blind spots. Let's all lose our blind spots as much as we can - that's a great WHY right there. @Terytha - fear often wears off as a motivation. Do you have some positive WHYs for yourself? Not to make your husband's life easier, but what about for you? I hope the rest of the team shares these stories about their answer to the question why. It is inspiring, and more authentic than many of the motivational kinds of posts that have a lovely effect but might not last. Thanks again, @evangsimmons1703
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