lindamtuck2018 wrote: »

I need to remember this:

Totally needed this, thank you!

Half a week at home with 130 miles on the bike made the loss, piling in the calories whilst I am away.

I'm on my Saturday evening wine and snacks, but had a healthy dinner and dragged myself out to run so it's a balanced Saturday!

Make sure you to start to migrate to our new room and also wish my bestie a happy birthday!!

mustb60 wrote: »

On side note my sister in law visited today and she has lost 8 kg weight in just one and half month!! She walks 25-26 k daily and is on very low calorie diet, may be around 800 cal but she doesn't count calories. Plain Yoghurt, fruits, oats and spinach beetroot juice, a little brown rice, no oil, no gluten. I am in awe of her and inspired. I think I should at least increase my steps because I really can't survive on that low calories. Too low calories will make it hard to retain muscles.
To much blabbering. ☺️ Hope everyone is having a fabulous week end!! Let us stay on track on weekends also.

Amazing loss and amazing discipline! Is she following a programme? Feel like such low cals shouldn't be followed for too long?

I'd love 20k plus days everyday, but just cant find a way to make the time!

There are ways and means to achieving weight loss. I am not going to denigrate anyone else's effort however I will stick with the generally accepted minimum calories and a lifestyle that I can continue with ad infinitum. Threads that promote the 800 calorie programme get shut down on MFP due to the risks, please take care if you follow one of these plans.

kilobykilo wrote: »

@TheMrWobbly I am hoping that as a non-calorie counter the lady in question is actually eating more than she thinks, and passed on inaccurate estimates to @mustb60. If not, I hope she moves forward from a speedy initial loss to something much more sustainable.

As someone that has yoyo dieted with the best of them for 10 years plus, im so happy to now be making slow (not always steady!!!) Progress counting cals and living life..... but, it took me a long time to realise slow is better and more sustainable than cabbage soup!

VLCD (very low calorie diets) have been pretty well studied and appear to be safe for short periods of time (up to 3 months) PROVIDED nutritional needs are met. My concern would not be about too few calories in the short term so much as whether what is being eaten is providing all the vitamins, minerals, protein, etc that the body needs.

However, in the longer term, continuous calorie diets (of all sorts) appear to reduce metabolism, which makes it more likely for weight to be regained.

A book/plan that might meet her half way is the Fast 800 diet by Dr Michael Mosley. He suggests a 800 cal diet for up to 12 weeks, then the 5:2 intermittent fasting diet where people eat a normal amount (no calorie counting) five days and do a mimicking fast 2 days (800 cals). Also recommended to eat a healthy well balanced Mediterranean style wholefood diet. By varying the amount of calories eaten on different days it avoids damaging the metabolism, and the foods recommended ensure nutritional needs are met.

(I have some friends who follow either the Fast 800 or 5:2, though personally I follow The Obesity Code by Dr Jason Fung: it is a low carb wholefood diet combined with intermittent fasting. 3 days a week I eat nothing - zero calories - the other days I eat a nutritious diet, don’t calorie count, but goal is to meet the day’s energy needs without a deficit. Over the week there is a net calorie deficit, but on any given day it varies).

EDIT: Of course, significant changes to diet etc should be done in collaboration with a doctor. It's important people get the necessary health checks and track not just external changes like weight but also other health markers - vitamins, minerals, hormones, etc.