Don't know what to say Yooly :(

will they be making dosage adjustments? Are there any hopes of improvement as you get used to it? Is this a limited time thing or it is an all day continuous thing?

The drs seem to be very NOT into treating the whole person but only interested in "their" portion of the problem and the rest can figure itself out! 😡

The definition of crashing fatigue sounds like no way to live, Yooly. If it becomes intolerable - maybe speak to your oncologist about alternatives?

I placed the yellow dots using my cell phone and the Mark 1 eye ball as rulers… so YMMV!

This graphs is actually pretty "kittens* because the annoying software doesn't extrapolate but only shows days with data. So the time scale is not consistent.

In any case, every down is followed by an up! Even if we all know that this will be the case, it seems that we can never manage to double down instead of slack off. So work arounds and defenses is all I can think off for when the time comes!

And the ups are extra "sharpish" (beyond the actual speed of gain) because, surprise-surprise, scale data disappear during the ups. Which in turns makes the graph LOOK extra steep.

As an example the increase after the third dot is a month and a half of no weight data from mid August to end of September 2024—which included last year's vacation to the Atlantic Provinces. But you can see that the time scale is somewhat deceptive because, for example, dot #2 to dot #3 is TWO YEARS, whereas dot #3 to #4 is SIX MONTHS.

My initial impetus for all this was to say that for me the ideal would be to slow down the process and lose Yooly's "12lbs" gradually… but when I looked at it more closely I have to admit that the down from 167.6 lbs to 154.8 was done at an almost 400 Cal per day effective deficit.

Funny thing about the number of observations… the two years low to low (dot #2 to dot #3) include less than six months of "scale observations" out of a total of 25 months. So basically for a person who aims to weigh "almost daily", my effective weigh in was just one out of every four+ days!

But yes, top to bottom from the ~168lbs max recorded (and I will admit that the scale hit 170#s on at least a couple of occasions before the 167.6lb got recorded), it was not quite as slow of a process as I would have thought had you just asked me!

And for the sake of feeling that the "weight graph series" is "complete" (because yes… brain hamsters are brain hamsters!) dot #3 to dot #4 took me from August 15, 2024 to yesterday, April 25, 2025

Isn't it interesting what lurks behind a simple "oh, I still weight the same as I did on…. "!

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How often were you near your "average deficit" of 200 Cal a day? If it were me it would be somedays -1000 somedays +300 somedays -500 somedays +1000 - You get the idea :)

That "completed" day stuff sounds so frustrating. But the net calorie graph is very interesting! Looks like you are mostly between 0 and -500? with occasional high blips? That actually looks very much like my net calories during my year and and a bit of maintenance - except my weight bounces around like mad. If I walk an extra 5000 steps up 3 pounds, eat a very salty meal up 2 pounds, don't sleep enough up 2 pounds, have a rest day down 2 pounds, get 9 hours of sleep down 4 pounds :)
I like the look of the graph too! The MFP netcalorie bar graph doesn't feel as good.

Weight bounces are frustrating… but "normal"! Unfortunately by larger or smaller swings for each of us.

But, regardless of the exact level of the swing, this is where the weight trend apps and/or web sites, or spread-sheets come in. Libra for android, Happy Scale for iphone and, my favorite, trendweight.com for web sites. It really did make a difference to my world-view during the first 5 years of weight loss and maintenance.

It has BECOME less of a concern since I got the "new" scale in 2019 and stopped logging weight changes to Fitbit ** But my scale "bounces" are usually limited to 1 to 2lbs.

Still, I would be better off if I were to have continued to always record my weight and continued to rely on the weight trend apps instead of "free-wheeling".

The problem with "free wheeling" and managing the bounces by not recording them is the perennial twin issue of zero data and increased weight when the "bounce" turns out to be a trend instead of a bounce!

** not recording weight to Fitbit happened by chance when I got the new scale. I continued it both for hamster management and to make the Fitbit calories-out closer to actual since they remained above actual in spite of the artificial reduction.

Basically I've left my weight set to 153 even when it increased above that. This reduces visible calories-out introducing an invisible deficit.

Mind you, logging shows that even this doesn't -fully- compensate for my current fitbit over-estimation. But it reduced the difference. And more so when I was more over my target weight. So hamster management!