Maybe We Should Have A Meat-Only May Challenge?
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Chia seeds are plants, so no, they're not allowed. If it's not from the animal kingdom and it's not tea or coffee, then assume it's on the "off-limits" list for the duration of the challenge. That's what makes it a challenge.[/quote]
Thanks. Since this thread started, i have been dabbling around zero carb anyway. So i will remove the chia and see how i get on. I am really looking forward to d may challenge.0 -
I have chia seed two spoon every other day with double cream. Can i still carry on with this on the challenge? daily carb not more than 5g
I don't know if that 5g was net or total, if it was net, it probably comes with 25g of fiber... which would be way off. It's already been said that plants are out, though. So, skip this for the month. You'll be fine. I promise.Hopefully this isn't a dumb question... Is it ok to eat meat we are cooking together with veggies, say for example the pot roast I have going in my crock pot right now with beef broth, a carrot, a couple of celery stalks, and some dehydrated onion flakes (and I plan to add cauliflower to later)? If we just eat the meat is that ok? Since I'm the family cook, my kids and husband have gotten used to eating keto meals for dinner, but I can't expect them to go carnivore with me...
Plants used as seasoning only are allowed. This would include small amounts of spices or plants that you cook with the meat but don't actually consume. So, you're fine.stillonamission wrote: »I have a quick question as well. Does anyone have snack ideas? I am not at the point where I can go long periods of time with out eating.
I usually wake up about 4:30 and drink coffee until 10 or 10:30 then eat breakfast. I usually eat lunch around 1 and if I don't have a snack before I get home and start dinner around 5:30 I will be an angry angry person. My lunch is usually 2 eggs and a 1/2 tablespoon mayo. My snack is usually a piece of cheese and a pickle. That is enough to keep my happy until dinner.
Any suggestions?
First and foremost, the obvious solution: Eat a larger lunch. A 200 calorie lunch isn't really a lunch. It's a snack.
Also, focus on meats instead of eggs. They're not as filling as meat can be. Deli-meats are good snacks. I've had 3-4 hard boiled eggs with some cold bacon as a snack before. I make my own beef jerky (no sugar, no seasonings actually, just salt). That's a safe snack, although I often dip it in some bacon grease to up the fat content. Sardines, slices of SPAM (although this has trace amounts of starch), hot dogs, hamburger patties, very small steaks? LOL, there is a lot of stuff you can snack on.
Although, I suspect that you'll not need to snack if you actually eat a full meal at lunch.0 -
Although, I suspect that you'll not need to snack if you actually eat a full meal at lunch.
That is probably true. I hadn't really considered that. I am not hungry after eating the two eggs but it doesn't last long. I have left over steak from tonight, I'll try that tomorrow and see how I feel.
Thank you for the snack suggestions. That definately gives me some ideas. I can see where cooking things a head of time is going to be very important, so I don't just grab something easy.
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So if tea and coffee are made from plants... why are they allowed? Are you condering them as "seasonings" in the water??? Not that I want to lose my coffee for the month!!!0
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So if tea and coffee are made from plants... why are they allowed? Are you condering them as "seasonings" in the water??? Not that I want to lose my coffee for the month!!!
This is exactly the way my mental gymnastics work to justify keeping my coffee.
Coffee and tea don't really provide any nutrients or calories and they're not sweet. They may be plant products, but they're mostly inconsequential. That said, there is certainly strong logic for removing them: they're drugs, they can cause harm (including kidney stones or even failure), they stain your teeth, coffee can cause an insulin response, they can mask hunger signals, and there's probably more reasons too.
I drink too much coffee. I have been working to get my consumption down and moving to mostly decaf. Right now, I drink 1-1.5 pots of coffee a day, but it's 2/3 decaf and only 1/3 regular. That's 4-6 "cups" worth of regular coffee. It's still on the high end, but it's getting to the point where I don't "need" my coffee. I will still get headaches if I don't drink any, but it's not as bad as it could be. And, I am easing down to the point where I can take it or leave it.0 -
Hmm, maybe I should make it a true challenge for myself and drop the coffee and tea. That would be just for me, everyone else would be free to choose to include it if they wanted. It would be hard. I would need to make a plan for work, since I drink a lot of coffee at work as I don't like the taste of the water.0
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Get some fitness bottles and fill them at home and keep them in a cooler if your work has no fridge?0
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I have a fridge in my office, but it freezes things solid. I just hate dragging bottles back and forth, and I drink an unpredictable amount (but still a large amount).0
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Well I know you won't let it stop you! You'll figure it out.0
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So.....if my Lindt 90% dark bar jumps out of the cabinet, tips over a bottle of vodka, and it all falls on my steak....can i still eat my steak, if I'm doing it while drinking a cup of tea?
I'm sorry. I couldn't help it. Coffeechocobooze month put me over the edge.0 -
Hmm, maybe I should make it a true challenge for myself and drop the coffee and tea. That would be just for me, everyone else would be free to choose to include it if they wanted. It would be hard. I would need to make a plan for work, since I drink a lot of coffee at work as I don't like the taste of the water.
do you like fizzy water? seltzer?0 -
I make my own beef jerky (no sugar, no seasonings actually, just salt). That's a safe snack, although I often dip it in some bacon grease to up the fat content.
Hey man, I've been thinking about doing this. Do you have a technique to share? I've thought about trying Alton Brown's technique of multiple box fans, but we have a pretty small house and I don't relish the idea of trying to find a place for them.0 -
Sorry FIT_goat, just playing devil's advocate after we nixed out someone's night cap.
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Aww man. I was just going to not mention alcohol, but now my husband (Chairmanwow) has gone and committed. Now I'll feel like a cheater if I have a drink. :::shakes fist:::0
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ChairmanWow wrote: »Hey man, I've been thinking about doing this. Do you have a technique to share? I've thought about trying Alton Brown's technique of multiple box fans, but we have a pretty small house and I don't relish the idea of trying to find a place for them.
Recommendation: Post on Facebook and ask if any of your friends have a dehydrator you can borrow for a few days. I used to randomly borrow large appliances from my mother, since we never needed them at the same time.0 -
I could bring sparkling water. I buy that often enough and do bring it to work.
My jerky is made, specifically, to be non-USDA approved. In fact, I take care to dry my meat right in the "danger zone." I don't recommend doing it my way (mainly because I don't want to be blamed if you get sick). I dry my meat in my smoker between 100 and 120 degreeF. That takes about 36-48 hours to fully dry it. The USDA would prefer you do it at 160 degreeF or higher. You can use a regular oven, with the door cracked, to make jerky. Just put it on the lowest possible temp (I think mine does 170) and spread the thinly sliced meat (~0.5 cm / 1/4" thick) on the racks with a couple cm (1") of space between each strip. It should take 12-18 hours at that temp.
You should season the meat before you dry it. Also, remove all visible fat from the meat (fat will ruin jerky). I used a round eye roast the last batch I made. I season mine with just a little salt. But, you can use any dry seasoning you want (don't use a wet seasoning as it will likely ruin the final product and don't marinate the meat before trying to make jerky from it).0 -
Thanks for the jerky-making advice. I can't wait to try it sometime. I'll have to test my oven to see if I can keep it at the right temperature. If you don't mind my asking, what type of smoker do you have? Do you use it often? I was casually looking into them, but clearly still just in the information gathering phase. Thanks again @FIT_Goat0
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@FIT_Goat do you ever make gb jerky? saw that recipe on zioh, may try it out. don't have a dehydrator but maybe in ze oven.0
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I just got mine. It's an electric Masterbuilt smoker. You can set a temp and it will maintain it within 10 degrees or so for the length of time you tell it (up to 24 hours). I only got it a while ago. I've used it a few times, but only the once for jerky. Before that, I was limited to the oven method. It wasn't super-cheap, but it was worth it for me (considering that I only eat meat).
I just bought some ribs today. Those will go in sometime this week, or next weekend. I really like smoked meats. The only issue is that it's time consuming. But, you can make a lot of stuff at once and it will hold over for a few days. I'm planning all sorts of meats for the future. The smoker will get a lot of use when my work schedule slows down.0 -
As an aside, I am still not decided about dropping coffee for May. June would be a much better month for me to do that, if I do it at all. I did pick up some extra bottles of sparkling water for work, just in case. But, I make no promises.0
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I had said I wasn't going to do it, as hubby had been worried about the lack of veg and me not cooking enough for everybody. I asked him about it again today, and he said he's fine with it as long as the bathroom is surviveable. As long as I'm cooking enough meat for everybody, they can always eat the frozen veggies (or the kids may go next door and beg their grandparents for real food) and we can pick up salads & buns for them to supplement.
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So, yeah, I'm in. Memorial Day weekend camping with more people should be interesting, but I'll just pick out the shrimp from the shrimp boil & skip the potatoes & corn.0 -
Upon further reflection, I'm down with everything on this list except artificial sweeteners. I do not think I'm willing to do without them. I may catch the next challenge.0
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VartorTheBarbarian_ wrote: »Upon further reflection, I'm down with everything on this list except artificial sweeteners. I do not think I'm willing to do without them. I may catch the next challenge.
I think the artificial sweeteners will be the hardest thing for many people doing this. It was one of the hardest and last things to go for me.0 -
The following is a weekly food eaten list for one of my earlier attempts at going meat only. You can see that I definitely was not ready to give up the artificial sweeteners (12 oz of Torani Sugar Free syrups in one week).
I also had some nuts (a tiny amount, but still a little) and some mushrooms (mushroom cream sauce). It wasn't perfect. Of all the things that were hardest to kick, it was the sweeteners. The nuts were probably a close second.
Edit: If you do the math, this works out to only like 13 oz a day of meat. The rest is cheese, dairy, eggs, or other stuff. Even eating this low amount of calories, now, I would aim for more meat (like 18-24 oz of meat) and less dairy and cheese. But, it was a start.0 -
Thanks for sharing your own background with switching to this woe.
Somehow I am totally find giving up the AS ingredients. I've been trying to mostly eat meat lately anyway, so hopefully I find it's just a matter of not tasting veggies I make when I cook for my husband as well.
Today I made the nomnompaleo cracklin chicken. I could live on just that, easy!0 -
VartorTheBarbarian_ wrote: »Upon further reflection, I'm down with everything on this list except artificial sweeteners. I do not think I'm willing to do without them. I may catch the next challenge.
I think the artificial sweeteners will be the hardest thing for many people doing this. It was one of the hardest and last things to go for me.
Fit_goat and others who want to chime in, when you did take the plunge and give up AS, when benefits did you experience?0 -
Other than don't buy more veggies, any other suggestions for those of us about to start?0
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