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  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    edited August 2016
    @Kirstie155 Love the weight set you bought! I was looking at one similar. I didn't even realize Dick's sold them.

    @VeryKatie I would say it's safe to lose up until the moment you get your positive pregnancy test then I'd throw yourself on maintenance. As far as a kick in the butt, *kicks* What are you waiting for? Only you can take control, so take control and get back to where you want to be. It's only going to get harder the longer you keep putting it off. It's more you have to lose and the longer it's going to take. My profile heading is this: Start today - stick with it tomorrow. Start now and keep going. You can do it!

    I've been struggling up until about 2 weeks ago maybe a little longer since February and I'm not even sure what changed. Whether it finally hit me that it was going to take me longer and longer to meet my goal the more I f**ked around or maybe it was realizing how much I've already set myself back. I could have been 28-32 pounds lighter than I am today if I would have stayed on track. I don't like to beat myself up but I have goals and only I can do what it takes to achieve them. I've now been in a deficit for a little over 2 weeks straight (which is a record since February). Another thing I did was I wrote my goals on my profile and checked in with myself every day. I wrote if I was under calories, if I had worked out or not and it made me more accountable to myself and was also a great way to see where I stood.


    If I've learned one thing since being on MFP it's that people will not always be around so you have to be your own motivation, you have to be your own accountability buddy - basically you have to be what you need.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    @WifiresGettingFit Truth! You can do it, @VeryKatie :smiley: but only you can do it!
  • puffbrat
    puffbrat Posts: 2,806 Member
    http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20160803/appendix-tonsil-removal-pregnancy

    According to this article having your tonsils or appendix removed increases fertility, and having both removed increases it more. That would be nice if it's true since I've had both removed. Unfortunately it's a pretty weak article and cites CNN saying that the research article provides no possible explanation as to why this would be true. I wish they linked the primary source. I will have to look for it later.
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    edited August 2016
    @puffbrat I would like to know why that would be true as well. Either way, it does nothing for me because I still have both. haha

    How is everyone doing and any plans for the weekend?

    As for me, I'm doing pretty good. I'll be leaving tomorrow to start a week long vacation with my family. We are usually pretty active with swimming in the pool or the lake or walking about so I should be able to maintain some type of activity on a day to day basis. This will be the test if I can maintain my eating habits though. At this point, I would just like to maintain as I've been seeing the 180's on the scale for some time now and would like to keep it that way. It would be nice if I could maintain a deficit but it isn't going to be my main focus just as long as I keep myself in check. I was going to bring my food scale as even just weighing things here and there seems to keep me in line but I forgot it and unfortunately I realized this about 56 miles too late. I also planned to bring my step deck but after realizing I was bringing more bags than I ever have (this is an annual trip.) I thought it better I not because there isn't much room in the car to begin with and I also remembered how we do keep pretty active anyhow so getting activity in shouldn't be an issue.

    I hope everyone is doing well and has a great weekend!
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    @WifiresGettingFit have an awesome vacation! Where are you headed to? Had a brunch and games with my family today. Went off my eating plan, but certainly made good decisions overall. Would like to take advantage of tax free weekend and buy some shoes and a few other things. Planning on taking a load off and relaxing, doing some things like laundry and whatnot.
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    @Kirstie155 Sounds like you had a very productive weekend! We are staying at a cottage (well they call it a cottage but it really isn't haha) by the lake in OH. We are planning to jet ski so I'm exciting about that. So far it's been a good trip.

    Hope everyone's week is going well!
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    @WifiresGettingFit that sounds like a great vacation! How do you feel your logging and whatnot is going? Are you staying on track?
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    @Kirstie155 So far it's been pretty good! We had a furry visitor a couple times today on our porch, a neighbors cat. I want to take it home! haha I'm having kitty fever! =P
    I'm still logging and have been active pretty much every day since we've arrived with either walking or swimming. I've been over calories 2 out of the 3 days we have been here but I think I'll end up maintaining for the week. I'm trying to still be aware and keep myself in check so I would stay I'm still on the right track but my main focus is just enjoying the time up here with my parents. It's going fast and we only have 4 more days left.

    How is your week going?
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    edited August 2016
    Thoughts on this: One of my best friends is getting married on May 13 next year. If I get pregnant this month, my estimated due date would be May 17. I really want to go to her wedding and I really want to get pregnant. Murphy's Law would dictate this will be my month that I get pregnant (lol). Would you keep trying for the month or take it off?
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    @VeryKatie I would for sure keep trying. Babies come early, babies come late. My sisters first came 5 weeks early. They can come 2 weeks late. At my own wedding our BEST MANs girlfriend (now wife) was due 2 days after our wedding. We had no idea if he would make it, even up to the day of. The rule was if she wasn't in labor, he would be there. She was also invited to the wedding, but didn't end up coming, but we really weren't sure what was going to happen. She had the baby 4 days after the wedding. All was well.
    Don't plan your life around someone elses!

    As a sidebar, my dad wants to take my mom and our whole family (me and my 3 sisters and spouses and -as of today-3 grandkids) on a European cruise for their big wedding anniversary in May of 2018. He told me and Chris no to be pregnant or have newborns for this trip. "Plan accordingly" he said. Lol!! Also, I'm not sure that he is paying for everyone's trip, which is a whole other can of worms...a European cruise is very expensive from the US! Not the kind of vacation we can afford right now, and especially once you throw having babies in the mix...hope he is planning on treating, haha!

    We are planning on having our babies when it suits us, I encourage you to do the same :kissing_heart:
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    edited August 2016
    @Kirstie155 hahah in that case I should use Murphy's Law in my favour haha. You're right that timing wise, the chances of not being able to go are slim. And I don't know that I will get pregers.

    Also... babies can actually be really good to travel with, especially on a cruise where your room is right there! They don't like their ears popping on planes, but otherwise, my mom always says it's fine. You just have to bring a lot of stuff. Agreed with you here on not planning life around someone else's hahah. My coworker took his 1.5 year old to Europe and she had a great time. And they were well rested. It just means you get up earlier and go to bed earlier.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    I wouldnt have an issue traveling with a baby, but the fact that he told us to "plan accordingly" was just ridiculous. He doesn't even have the dates....and what if it takes us awhile to get pregnant? What if we have our first, then our second right after? What if he cancels the trip, or it just doesnt happen? Its just crazy for him to say we have to plan our reproduction around his vacation! I hope it was in jest...but you don't know my dad....I'm just not sure :grimace:

    I would not want to travel during my last 6 weeks of pregnancy, or in the first 3 months after birth. Like I said, babies can come early, and there is no warning. I would want to be close to home, with my own doctors nearby...and with all my baby gear! And after birth, I think you need time to heal and get settled with baby. If you had complications or a c section, you arent supposed to return to work before 8 weeks or so I think, and you really need that time to sleep and heal-at home.
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    edited August 2016
    Ughhh no offence but that is why I'd never move to the US. 8 weeks? You've gotta be kidding me! I'll take my 17 to 52 weeks, thanks! Now Sweden... I could get on board with 2 years of mat leave... maybe I'll need to learn a new language hahah.

    Your dad sounds like an interesting fellow! I'd say if there is that much up in the air about the trip, he was probably joking haha.
  • puffbrat
    puffbrat Posts: 2,806 Member
    @VeryKatie I would say to keep trying for a baby. Missing your friend's wedding would be sad if that situation happened, but you would have the joy a new baby and I'm sure your friend would understand. Plus as you said, this may not wind up being an issue :)

    @Kirstie155 your dad's cruise plans remind me of what happened to one of my best friends. Her mom suddenly sprang on her an offer to go on safari in Africa that mom would pay for. My friend was hesitant to go for several reasons and then shortly after the offer was made, my friend found out she was pregnant with her first child (they had been trying for ~1.5 years). Her mom was livid that my friend had the audacity to get pregnant and ruin the mom's plans for the trip rather than being excited for her first grandchild from her only child. I think she eventually got over it. The whole situation was absurd.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    @VeryKatie Ugh, don't even get me STARTED on our screwed up system here in the US. Can I come to Canada? 17-52 weeks sounds fantastic....and let me guess, its paid, right? *jealous!!*

    I actually get no paid leave at all for maternity care. Expecting mothers may take 6 weeks for vaginal delivery, 8(?) for c section-all unpaid by the government (gee, thanks!) You can get paid mat leave if your company includes it as a benefit, but mine does not. I have to save my sick and vacation time (something else that is a benefit, and not from the government...so not everyone is so fortunate!) to use while I deliver and after. My vacation package is quite generous, at 3 weeks plus 1 week of sick per year. Many people get significantly less, or none at all. So when I am pregnant, I have to save up all my sick and vacation time for over a year just to have enough to cover the 6 weeks of time off for delivery if I want to get my full paycheck. I am allowed to take 12 weeks off without losing my job, but it will be unpaid without my saved leave. :flushed:

    I had to really twist Chris' arm at one point just to get him to agree to take this December vacation with me...he grew up with no vacation. His family just worked all the time. It's what he is used to. He doesn't think we "deserve it." I told him I was going, with or without him...I deserve it, thank you very much, hahaha!

    Childcare is also outrageously expensive and not a government priority. Grrrrrr! I'd leave in a heartbeat if we weren't so tied down. Damn family!

    @puffbrat wow, I thought my situation was unique! I'm glad to hear that she got over it! I think dad was joking...but he pulled us aside for this "talk." It was weird, and reminded me of when I was a teenager, in hushed tones on the porch. "Now kids, I know you are getting married, but plan your pregnancies accordingly...because In 3 years I'm planning a surprise vacation!"
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    edited August 2016
    @puffbrat yeah I'm thinking the same thing now. I'm just a bit nervous. That's crazy that the mom was mad about her daughter being pregnant over a trip :(

    @Kirstie155 Ours is covered by unemployment insurance (a tax we have to pay into all the time). You have a 2 week waiting time after going on mat leave before the insurance kicks in. They pay something like 55% of your salary up to a maximum of $850 every two week for the next 15 weeks of maternity leave. Then the 35 week parental leave starts - either parent can take it or you can take it together (but you use it up twice as quickly). That's the same pay as mat leave. Anyone who takes the leaves has their job (or a similar one) held for them for a maximum of 52 weeks.

    You do forgo any benefits and raises typically while you're gone. Some companies will top up the EI so that you get up to your full salary. My company fills in the 2 week waiting period with 93% of my salary, and then tops up the 15 week mat leave up to 93% of the salary. No top up for parental leave though. Of course, it's still great even without top up. Chris keeps saying he's going to take my parental leave from me though since I make marginally more than he does... but then I go "but boobs". Besides you're only talking 55% of the difference we make at that point.

    Of course... it's hard to get childcare. You can have your child on a list for a spot on a city wide register for ANY daycare the DAY you find out you're pregnant and STILL not have gotten a spot by the time your parental leave is up. Leaving you either giving up a job, relying on family or friends, taking your kid to work (yeah right!), or ... leaving your kid with someone unreliable? Oh and if you give up your job, you have to pay back your top-up to your company.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    @VeryKatie that sounds amazing. I want to move to Canada now.

    We have something in the US called FMLA, which is the family medical leave act. At a company of 50 or more employees, your job is secure for 12 weeks. You can use FMLA once per year to take care of a family member in need. It's unpaid job security. That only lasts 12 weeks. :frowing: it's not much, but it's the best we have. My company is less than 50 people...so I have no security. Once my 6 or 8 weeks of medically necessaryy leave is up...I could get canned if I don't get back to work. My boss did say that he would hold my job...but I have nothing written to ensure that. Scary thought to lose your job after you just had a baby.

    We are fortunate to have money in the bank, but it's really scary to think of what happens to families that aren't as fortunate as we are.

    Anyway Katie, glad you have such a great policy in place!!
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    Well I'm late on this but my simple answer would be this: I would not plan anything I do around someone else and what they want. I don't have time for that. My life, my choice and my time so I'll do what I want on my schedule.

  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Date night with the hubs! Hope you are all having a nice weekend! It's supposed to be 108 with the heat index here!
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    Hope you enjoyed your date night @Kirstie155 =)
  • puffbrat
    puffbrat Posts: 2,806 Member
    I'm late to the maternity leave conversation but going to jump in. My employer is great for maternity leave. We have way more than 50 employees, so I'm guaranteed the 12 weeks unpaid FMLA leave. My husband (we work for the same company now) said that our company actually allows up to 1 year of unpaid maternity leave. He said a woman he works with just got back from doing this, but managers were frustrated by having to hold her position. I can't imagine I would take that much time off (because I might not go back after and finances) but it's nice to know the option exists. I do know that the company as a whole and my manager in particular allow women to change to part time schedules and do some occasional work from home to accommodate families.

    This is so much better than my last job. That company had fewer than 20 employees, so no FMLA leave. They also had no policy regarding maternity leave in general. There was flexibility to bring kids of any age into the office, but there was no guarantee you would even job to come back to. Right when I left, they very shockingly laid off an incredibly valuable employee who had been on maternity leave for about 12 weeks and wanted to get back to work.

    @Kirstie155 I hope you enjoyed date night with your husband!
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    edited August 2016
    :/ Sometimes I feel like the US is still in the dark ages when it comes to maternity leave. Guys want kids too, but can't do it without a woman (unless they adopt - which in Canada, you still get the parental leave 35 weeks off for). And then they punish women for having those kids. Our government is apparently considering an 18 month maternity leave policy now. With the same benefits as 12 months spread over 18. I would be interested in that too. That would hopefully help solve the daycare issues we have here.

    Seriously though. Sweden, my friends. 420 days off with 80% of your pay! Or 46 weeks in Norway at 80% as well - which also offers what looks like 2.5 months of guaranteed paternity leave at the same time. Annnd doing some research, Bulgaria sounds awesome! 410 days at 90% of pay PLUS up to another YEAR at minimum wage!

    There were some studies in 2013 that show that it costs a company more to not offer maternity/parental leave than it does to offer it. They lose out because of higher turnover and low productivity.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    The US is stuck in the dark ages. The ONLY reason hubby and I haven't tt yet is because of childcare/maternity leave.

    First we had to put some money away (cause its not like I'd be getting paid while Im out!)
    Then pay off the car (billz billz billz we cant pay cause its not like I'd be getting paid while Im out!)
    Try and get on short term disability insurance, which is only open to apply 1x per year (cause its not like I'd be getting paid while Im out!) See a pattern here? This insurance has to be approved (please, sirs...can I haz approval for insurance coverage for mah babies?) and if approved (they CAN deny you coverage,) it only pays 60% of your salary for 6 weeks (I think?) AFTER you already use up your own vacation and sick leave. After that, you have to have a separate long term disability plan that kicks in for time after that. Jump through those hoops!

    Our original plan was to pay the bills, save some money, get pregnant and I'd just quit my job. It's what I'd prefer, and then we dont have to worry about money that we counted on being shortchanged somehow...but now that I have been promoted, I am really enjoying my job. So I have the right to change my mind and just see how it goes :innocent: but I can tell you I'd feel much better about it knowing that I had more job security than 12 weeks (which is NOT guaranteed, no FMLA because there are less than 50 employees at my company.) I don't want to quit my job, stay home with baby for a year then have to start all over. It would be so nice to have that security! There is no paternity leave for my husband either, though he does qualify for FMLA (100% unpaid) to take 12 weeks off if needed. So he will have a choice to take time off or get a paycheck-not both. :flushed:

    Child care is so expensive too-it could easily be half of mine or my husbands take home pay or more, not really sure how much...for 2 children. So enough money left over that it is better financially to keep working, but its still soooo expensive! I wish we had child and elder care provided as citizens :tired_face:

    @VeryKatie Sweden sounds amazing!
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Here is an interesting read about the US maternity leave (or lack there of.) https://washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/08/13/the-world-is-getting-better-at-paid-maternity-leave-the-u-s-is-not/

    By the way I have spent hours of my afternoon looking into short term disability and how to get it. Since my employer's insurance company has denied me the past 2 years running, its safe to assume they will do the same this year. Requesting again with my fingers crossed is the only thing I have come up with...I can't buy an individual policy. There is no other option :cold_sweat:

    Anyone know of any other way??
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    edited August 2016
    Sorry I can't help you there @Kirstie155! Our child care here costs a fortune too. Something like $70 a day for the first year.

    I'm not changing the subject but I just wanted to post a picture of my new shoes randomly. Haha.

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  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    edited August 2016
    @VeryKatie oooh those are really cute! My last pair of new nikes have since been demoted to lawn mowing shoes! They are really old! I have 3 pair of running shoes: I have a pair of sneakers I only wear in the house for the treadmill so they stay clean(ish)and a pair for outside walking/ jogging, and the final pair are the grimy yard ones now...haha!

    Do you run? I'm more of a fast walker, haha. Running makes my boobs hurt.
  • WifiresGettingFit
    WifiresGettingFit Posts: 1,773 Member
    @VeryKatie Love the shoes!
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    edited August 2016
    No I don't run lol. But I did dance around in them yesterday. My feet kind of wanted to fall asleep though so maybe they don't fit right. But my last pair has to be at least 6-7 years old. I keep those at work now in case I want to exercise at lunch.

    ... I posted that picture from my phone, why is it so huge lol.
  • puffbrat
    puffbrat Posts: 2,806 Member
    @VeryKatie those shoes are adorable! I was disappointed the ones I got in January weren't very colorful.

    @Kirstie155 I'm afraid I don't have any ideas regarding short term disability since I've never looked into it.

    My plan is basically just to keep putting money into savings and plan as much in advance as possible. My husband and I are both really lucky to have great salaries in a relatively cheap cost of living area. Also, my company allows us buy up to an additional 80 hours of vacation leave at the start each year, so I think I will do that next year to hedge. If you don't use any or all of it, the company just sends you a check at the end of year for the unused time.
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    How is everyone doing lately? My last week was pretty good, other than the weekend. I should have reigned myself in a bit better haha.