TEAM WAISTAWAYS JANUARY 2019 TEAM CHAT
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Lots of good discussions about complex issues - here are a couple pennies' worth to throw into the pot.
About "cheat" days:
I could not have gotten through my initial weight loss without several months of strategic "eat anything" days. I ate really clean, completely within my eating plan, for 6 days a week. One day each week I could eat anything at all, with no tracking, no limits at all. If I had a craving during the week, I knew I could have it on my free day if I still wanted it then. When free day came, it was fun to eat anything, knowing that it was for one day only. Gradually through the weeks, I ate less and less that day, and finally it was not that different than other days. But even when it gets pretty crazy, I have the habit now of not letting a day that gets out of control last any longer than one day. I learned that some cravings really disappeared or the food made me feel lousy. These days were not about "cheating". They were about re-learning freedom, not feeling bad about some wild eating, and finally they weren't that special at all and I can control even trigger foods much better than before. And no, that one day a week did not derail my weight loss! After menopause, and at 5' tall.
About strength training / macros / calories, etc.:
This is a huge question, and the advice of some pros who have a degree in exercise science or related fields would be your best sources of answers. Building muscle to improve your body weight distribution is a great idea. There are many, many ways to do that. I have enjoyed a combination of TRX (suspension training) which is easy to install at home, kettlebells (you don't need a whole rack of them), and a small collection of dumbells, but there are many ways to go. A couple of my favourite resources are kettlebellsworkouts.com with Greg Brookes, gmb.io has lots of free bodyweight workouts, and greatist.com is full of info. But if you can afford to meet a few times with a trainer (once every few weeks), they can advise on both the workout and the diet. As we all know, though, there are a lot of theories out there! I'm also short (even shorter than you, @BMcC9 and my calories per day are low. I have left grains behind most of the time, but I eat other carbs and do not really track them closely. Find what makes you feel great!0 -
Week 2 is off to an amazing start ---
@jan110144
@Astrue
Your losses are POSTED on the spreadsheet. You are both fabulous, and have earned every good feeling, every congratulation, and you have boasting rights. Go boast!
Remaining Monday people - send in your updates, thanks!
@cccallahan
@evangsimmons170
@gabi_texanmom
@MoStacy
@tdrjustus3
Since this is my first time with this group, I was wondering if we get a one time pass for weighing in per month? I've never skipped a weekly weigh in since being on MFP, but I was out of town over the weekend and just getting back to work today and I'm SO swollen from all the salt intake from foods I don't normally eat. Seriously, my hands, legs, and feet are so swollen right now. I haven't been this swollen in months. Hope I don't get kicked out of the group for skipping one weigh in, but carrying this excess fluid in me feels miserable.1 -
Lots of good discussions about complex issues - here are a couple pennies' worth to throw into the pot.
About "cheat" days:
I could not have gotten through my initial weight loss without several months of strategic "eat anything" days. I ate really clean, completely within my eating plan, for 6 days a week. One day each week I could eat anything at all, with no tracking, no limits at all. If I had a craving during the week, I knew I could have it on my free day if I still wanted it then. When free day came, it was fun to eat anything, knowing that it was for one day only. Gradually through the weeks, I ate less and less that day, and finally it was not that different than other days. ... These days were not about "cheating". [/b]They were about re-learning freedom, not feeling bad about some wild eating, and finally they weren't that special
This actually is a good example of what I was trying to get at. What you did was planned and intentional. It was not about a spur of the moment "splurge". AND you identified it as NOT cheating ... therefore no "guilt" or a sense of loss if control. It was an empowering choice that you made!
I may be over-focusing on mothing
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Too injured right now for any real exercise.. so I'm targetting 1200-1300 intake and 1700 tdee.. made it today.3
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Lots of good discussions about complex issues - here are a couple pennies' worth to throw into the pot.
About "cheat" days:
I could not have gotten through my initial weight loss without several months of strategic "eat anything" days. I ate really clean, completely within my eating plan, for 6 days a week. One day each week I could eat anything at all, with no tracking, no limits at all. If I had a craving during the week, I knew I could have it on my free day if I still wanted it then. When free day came, it was fun to eat anything, knowing that it was for one day only. Gradually through the weeks, I ate less and less that day, and finally it was not that different than other days. But even when it gets pretty crazy, I have the habit now of not letting a day that gets out of control last any longer than one day. I learned that some cravings really disappeared or the food made me feel lousy. These days were not about "cheating". They were about re-learning freedom, not feeling bad about some wild eating, and finally they weren't that special at all and I can control even trigger foods much better than before. And no, that one day a week did not derail my weight loss! After menopause, and at 5' tall.
What you described, I absolutely endorse. It highlights the psychological divide between the concepts of "forbidden foods / cheat days-or-meals" vs "intentional pass days and practicing delayed gratification" mind sets.
They may look similar from a distance, but actually aren't internally. I highlighted some of the key phrases above that indicate the internal difference.
The point is, you CHOOSE and you OWN when you will add relatively rare indulgences (whatever that means to you); do your best to shuffle the rest of that day's calories to make room, but it's not the end of the world if there is an occasion when your macros go red.
By employing "Just For Today" thinking, you CHOOSE to postpone something "until next Saturday" or " ... Fred's birthday". When Saturday, or the birthday, rolls around you ask yourself if you still REALLY want "it". If the answer is yes, have it. If the answer is "meh, the mood has passed", don't ... or don't have as much as you THOUGHT you wanted in the first place.
My only caveat to this as described above is the idea of "find a modification or substitute for "MOST OF THE TIME" IF the indulgence item is related to medical ramifications in your particular case. Maybe if someone were pre-diabetic, or already diabetic Type 2, they would have to spread the once-in-a-while extra-sweet farther apart than once a week. But still be fine with a " so long as I am good 80% of the time" scenario.
But I can only theorize about that.
I'd like to hear from someone in the group who DOES have to work around something so that the stakes are higher ... like pre-diabetes or gluten intolarence or something.1 -
Username: MoStacy
Weigh in week: week 2
Weigh in day: Monday
Starting Weight: 170lbs.
Week 1: 169.6 lbs
Todays Weight: 169.3 lbs5 -
cccallahan wrote: »Username: cccallahan
Weigh in week: Week 2
Weigh in day: Monday
Previous Weight: 286.6
Todays Weight: 282.2
POSTED! and the terrible typo FIXED - thanks for catching that, although I probably would have noticed when this week you would have lost 14 pounds! You're amazing, but hopefully not doing harm by losing too fast
Thanks for sorting that out! I’m coming off of Prednisone, so not surprised to see some easy quick pounds shedding. Let’s enjoy it while it lasts, because I’m sure it will slow down! lol0 -
“What doesn’t challenge us doesn’t change us” - Chaitanya Charan (?)
I want to challenge myself a lot more physically by switching up my exercise choices and intensity, but I feel I need some guidance before I will feel comfortable doing so.
I also need to know if I am over-thinking this ..... I can give myself "analysis paralysis" over translating very valid theory into day-to-day practice. In this case ... where is the healthy-safe threshold when push-yourself activity burn would consistently bring you under 1000 net calories in? A burn of only 251 calories per day would do that .... and MFP will probably drop my calories in again before I get all the way to "starting maintenance"
If this is a field you would know about from a competition training perspective, or have received professional advice about (say from your trainer), please see inside my Spoiler on page 12 for details of my situation. Low end of MFP assigned calories now; no physical or medical bars to up-to-my-limits cardio OR resistance choices
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Tdrjustus3
Weigh In day: Monday
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evangsimmons170 wrote: »
Since this is my first time with this group, I was wondering if we get a one time pass for weighing in per month? I've never skipped a weekly weigh in since being on MFP, but I was out of town over the weekend and just getting back to work today and I'm SO swollen from all the salt intake from foods I don't normally eat. Seriously, my hands, legs, and feet are so swollen right now. I haven't been this swollen in months. Hope I don't get kicked out of the group for skipping one weigh in, but carrying this excess fluid in me feels miserable.
I do not think there are usually skipped weeks in this challenge - but we really want you to stay! Submit something, and then you'll feel even more amazing next week when you have lost all the fluid. If you really do not want to, check with one of the moderators and see what they say, or let me know and I'll check. I know it is hard to post a gain, but you'll turn it around for sure.
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JANUARY WEEK 1 WINNERS...
TEAM % LOST
1st - Trimstones - 0.38%
2nd - Weight No More - 0.15%
3rd - Mission Slimpossibles - 0.10%
TEAM LBS LOST
1st - Trimstones - 29.0
2nd - Weight No More - 10.4
3rd - Mission Slimpossibles - 7.6
INDIVIDUAL % LOST
1st - @trinalong79 - 3.33%
2nd - @clmumaw74 - 2.81%
3rd - @pjmfitforme - 2.63%
INDIVUDUAL LBS LOST
1st - @trinalong79 - 6
2nd - @clmumaw74 - 5.1
3rd - @SaraMakingChanges, @deconstructeddancer, AND @zogini1234 - 5.0
HONORABLE MENTIONS
@czvanut @carlsoda @boehle
@melichalupa @MzManiak
@SaraMakingChanges @cyndiesstuff
1st - Trimstones - 701,901
2nd - Workout Warriors - 680,322
3rd - Weight No More - 636,232
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@MoStacy
@tdrjustus3
updates POSTED! Keep up the hard work - post some news, feels, rants, non-scale victories - we'd love to hear more.1 -
YAY!!! We made it past January week 1! You have all done an amaying job this week no matter what your results were. The important thing is we are HERE and doing our best to better ourselves each day. I am so proud to see that we are all still walking hand in hand giving each other all the support and encouragement we need. KEEP GOING EVERYONE!
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Please don't forget we have a STEPS CHALLENGE going on for the whole month of January. Those of you who signed up to be one of your teams 12 steppers, remember you MUST post your steps daily in the Steps Challenge announcement. Simply click on the link below to do so. We will be needing all your numbers in order to give results each week so get those to us as soon as you can.
There are some teams that still have spots open so if you are interested please reach out to your team captains!
HAPPY STEPPING!!
January 2019 Step Challenge
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This weeks TEAM CHALLENGE is brought to you by TEAM MISSION SLIMPOSSIBLES!!
Some of us may have let some of our good habits and structure slide over the holidays. To help each other get back to the good habits and routine we had before the holidays we wanted to encourage some sharing of ideas, suggestions and tips about a variety of topics. By sharing your ideas it will help someone else and might also help you get back on or keep on track.
Head on over to the challenge page and start sharing those ideas!!
WEEK 2 GROUP CHALLENGE
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Hello everyone listen sorry I can’t really walk much given them my shoulder problem so I have to drop out of the step challenge. I only had about 2500 steps yesterday anyway. I can barely move right now.3
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Hello team!! I am feeling so so sore today! I’ve been working out daily since I got home from visiting the in-laws and my muscles have no idea what’s going on! My abs (yes I have abs they are just hiding lol) are screaming every time i laugh or cough!
I got to the Gym yesterday morning and did an hour on the arc trainer plus 45 min strength training. Also, I was so excited to do Zumba last night. A group of my friends joined me to try it out and I think they will be joining me every Monday moving forward! youpi! Doing better with my food intake. Baby steps right!
This morning I was back to physio for my shoulders....OUCH. And I will be hitting the gym tonight with my husband.
Have a wonderful Tuesday everyone!!
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Oh man, weekends are hard for me to get to the group. During the week, I check in on my computer and find it SO much easier than trying to do it on my phone. But, not an excuse, just a reality. I will work on a way to stay plugged in on the weekends! For now, need to catch up at work and I will post later in the day!
HAPPY TUESDAY!2 -
Happy Tuesday to you too! I have been on a mad cooking binge during a snowstorm - mostly stuff for the working guys in the house - and it will soon be time to fire up the workout video and then get out to faff around in all the lovely new snow. 2
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Andreabroadley wrote: »Hello everyone listen sorry I can’t really walk much given them my shoulder problem so I have to drop out of the step challenge. I only had about 2500 steps yesterday anyway. I can barely move right now.
No problem - you need to take care of yourself and you'll get back to it when you can, I'm sure! Deep breaths, lots of rest, and long soaks in hot water if you can. Hugs flying your way
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mari_moulin wrote: »Hello team!! I am feeling so so sore today! I’ve been working out daily since I got home from visiting the in-laws and my muscles have no idea what’s going on! My abs (yes I have abs they are just hiding lol) are screaming every time i laugh or cough!
I got to the Gym yesterday morning and did an hour on the arc trainer plus 45 min strength training. Also, I was so excited to do Zumba last night. A group of my friends joined me to try it out and I think they will be joining me every Monday moving forward! youpi! Doing better with my food intake. Baby steps right!
This morning I was back to physio for my shoulders....OUCH. And I will be hitting the gym tonight with my husband.
Have a wonderful Tuesday everyone!!
Wait a minute. You call that Baby Steps? I'm doing this all wrong!!!!
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This is the point where I usually stop. I have had great results and now I am slacking off on monitoring what I eat. I had a terrible day at work yesterday and I want to just eat my emotions right now. I am behind on some work assignments and I feel like I will never get them done. I have gained over the past few weeks and I am starting to feel defeated... but I can’t stop now. This is truly mind over matter. thanks for letting me vent.4
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If you really do not want to, check with one of the moderators and see what they say, or let me know and I'll check. I know it is hard to post a gain, but you'll turn it around for sure.evangsimmons170 wrote: »
Hope I don't get kicked out of the group for skipping one weigh in, but carrying this excess fluid in me feels miserable.
I have been here for multiple months - the moderators can confirm the following for you .... it's "two CONSECUTIVE missed weigh-ins" when you didn't alert Cap's in advance that you would be away. (They can do a carry-over of previous weight, but only by pre- arrangement - like for a vacation that you know will cover two consecutive weigh-in days for you)
If you DON'T pre-notify before missing two consecutive weigh-ins, your name goes to the team's "Cheer Squad" section for the rest of the month and you will have to re-register for the main Fat2Fit Challenge to re-join the active part of the roster the next month. That means you can keep right on participating here, but your numbers are no longer part of the Team Stat calculations the rest of that month.
For most of us, roll-over from one month's active-roster team list to the next month's active-roster same-team list will be automatic, unless you ASK to be removed or placed on a different team, or the Cheer Squad, for whatever (personal) reason. Justification or details for withdrawal or switch don't need to be posted in this general thread.
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@BMcC9 - thanks for the info!
@evangsimmons170 I think that the above answer makes it pretty clear that you have some choices. I'm happy just to post the same weight as last week so you don't need to worry about it, OR you can move over to the non-weighing Cheer Squad and stay here for the postings, challenges, and company. So let us know and it shall be done!
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tdrjustus3 wrote: »This is the point where I usually stop. I have had great results and now I am slacking off on monitoring what I eat. I had a terrible day at work yesterday and I want to just eat my emotions right now. I am behind on some work assignments and I feel like I will never get them done. I have gained over the past few weeks and I am starting to feel defeated... but I can’t stop now. This is truly mind over matter. thanks for letting me vent.
So glad to hear you are not going to let your old pattern rule! You are going to get back up and keep going. Venting is useful - go ahead and let fly whenever you want!0 -
HOUSEKEEPING!
Weigh-ins due today:
@iluvnufoods
@orngnerdz
Late weigh-in:
@gabi_texanmom (hope you're OK - missing your great messages!)0 -
GettingFitTash
Monday- Week 2 weigh in
Last week: 198.4
This week: 199.6
Up a little bit I like the Monday accountability!! 😁1 -
GettingFitTash wrote: »GettingFitTash
Monday- Week 2 weigh in
Last week: 198.4
This week: 199.6
Up a little bit I like the Monday accountability!! 😁
POSTED! I like your attitude!0 -
Hold crapoloa - that's some amazing numbers from everyone!! Way to go gals & guys!! Can I get a woot woot!!mari_moulin wrote: »
JANUARY WEEK 1 WINNERS...
TEAM % LOST
1st - Trimstones - 0.38%
2nd - Weight No More - 0.15%
3rd - Mission Slimpossibles - 0.10%
TEAM LBS LOST
1st - Trimstones - 29.0
2nd - Weight No More - 10.4
3rd - Mission Slimpossibles - 7.6
INDIVIDUAL % LOST
1st - @trinalong79 - 3.33%
2nd - @clmumaw74 - 2.81%
3rd - @pjmfitforme - 2.63%
INDIVUDUAL LBS LOST
1st - @trinalong79 - 6
2nd - @clmumaw74 - 5.1
3rd - @SaraMakingChanges, @deconstructeddancer, AND @zogini1234 - 5.0
HONORABLE MENTIONS
@czvanut @carlsoda @boehle
@melichalupa @MzManiak
@SaraMakingChanges @cyndiesstuff
1st - Trimstones - 701,901
2nd - Workout Warriors - 680,322
3rd - Weight No More - 636,232
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tdrjustus3 wrote: »This is the point where I usually stop. I have had great results and now I am slacking off on monitoring what I eat. I had a terrible day at work yesterday and I want to just eat my emotions right now. I am behind on some work assignments and I feel like I will never get them done. I have gained over the past few weeks and I am starting to feel defeated... but I can’t stop now. This is truly mind over matter. thanks for letting me vent.
I know this point all too well. It’s funny how we can get too comfortable with our routines that we stop monitoring and measuring or bothering with any of it at all because we think that we’ve got it down right. Often we forget all this little snacks add up. I find myself looking for snacks and then I wave it off thinking it wasn’t much I can add it later or just take a wild guess at the calories I also find myself tasting far too often and even having small bites of my kids foods to check if it’s hot or to have a taste or when he says mommy I’m done you finish it I’m happy to do so. All these little bits add up at the end of the day. I am also an emotional eater and in bad days i can eat well over double the amount I’m supposed to without even realizing it. Boredom , stress, emotions, tiredness.....it all plays a part in how we do on This journey. The important thing is to not let yourself drown in any of those. Sadly it is life and we have to learn how to get through these moments. Stay strong. Don’t look at the recent gain, look at the BIG Picture. Hey you’ve come a long way and we all know gains happen so just remind yourself that this is just another one of those pesky gains but you know what to do to get it going the right way again. We believe in you!3 -
mari_moulin wrote: »Hello team!! I am feeling so so sore today! I’ve been working out daily since I got home from visiting the in-laws and my muscles have no idea what’s going on! My abs (yes I have abs they are just hiding lol) are screaming every time i laugh or cough!
I got to the Gym yesterday morning and did an hour on the arc trainer plus 45 min strength training. Also, I was so excited to do Zumba last night. A group of my friends joined me to try it out and I think they will be joining me every Monday moving forward! youpi! Doing better with my food intake. Baby steps right!
This morning I was back to physio for my shoulders....OUCH. And I will be hitting the gym tonight with my husband.
Have a wonderful Tuesday everyone!!
Wait a minute. You call that Baby Steps? I'm doing this all wrong!!!!
Well yea baby steps with the food part lol. Food is my drug and it’s what I struggle with the most. My workouts tho.....I’m a beast!! 💪🏻1 -
Happy Tuesday to you too! I have been on a mad cooking binge during a snowstorm - mostly stuff for the working guys in the house - and it will soon be time to fire up the workout video and then get out to faff around in all the lovely new snow.
Snow and I aren’t friends but love to hear about it and know that others do in fact enjoy it. I’m the same when the weather is not so good. But for me instead of cooking, I start baking. If only I could just stick to the baking part and not the eating it all part it would be ok 🤦🏻♀️1
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