WaistAways Team Chat - NOVEMBER 2023

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  • ashleycarole86
    ashleycarole86 Posts: 6,303 Member
    @jugar
    Have fun in NC!!!

    @MaddawgMadsen
    Sorry to hear illness has been kicking your butt girl!

    @YinxFed
    And same with your hubby's chest infection!
    Tis that time of year, isn't it?? ACK!
  • jugar
    jugar Posts: 10,262 Member
    @ashleycarole86 YIKES! That sounds like a miserable trip. Ugh. I hope you don't catch what Brad has, and that you both get home safe and have some time to rest and recover.

    Same to all of you on the sick list - feel better soon :heart:

    Quick reminder for weigh-ins:
    Sunday-Monday-Tuesday
    @Betsy___
    @littlemzkitty
    @strong_fit_ells
    @lauren_989

    Thanks!
  • Kali225
    Kali225 Posts: 701 Member
    Thank you for your various cents on the protein powder question!

    @ashleycarole86 oh man what an incredible wrench in the top of your week. get home safe and get the best sleep you can.

    hugs to all who are under the weather!

    Back to my workouts in the challenge for the next 4 weeks and today was a DOOZY of a lower body workout. It took me 70 min! gonna be pretty sore tomorrow I bet.

    Getting into bed now - how does the day fly by SO fast!!!
  • littlemzkitty
    littlemzkitty Posts: 137 Member
    Happy Monday!

    PW: 229.2
    CW: 232.0

    Missed last week - sorry about that. Last week wasn't the greatest, but gotta keep going.
  • lauren_989
    lauren_989 Posts: 1,360 Member
    PW: 208.8
    CW: 211.6

    🙈🙈🙈 I knew it was a bad week
  • MaddawgMadsen
    MaddawgMadsen Posts: 328 Member
    @Kali225 - Something I forgot to mention about protein powders, I really don't use them much. To get extra protein in my diet, I use collagen powder in my coffee, powdered peanut butter every few days in my breakfast (usually either with Greek yogurt or oatmeal), and will occasionally do protein shakes. Premier Protein had a pumpkin spice protein shake for the fall that was really good.

    @YinxFed - I forgot to say that I'm sorry to hear your husband is struggling with a chest infection. I hope he is on the mend!

    @ashleycarole86 - your trip sounds miserable. I hope it and Brad get better, and quick!

    @jugar - I am glad you made it safely to NC! Enjoy the time with your family in the nice weather!
  • MaddawgMadsen
    MaddawgMadsen Posts: 328 Member
    @ashleycarole86 - Monday, November 13th - 6,713 steps, 40 minutes spin, three games of league bowling

    It seems like we have a few people who are in the red this week, which happens. But it makes me ponder a topic that was brought me recently, that of rebellion. Often, we get into eating, drinking, or habits that we know aren't good for us as a form of rebellion. I know I definitely do this, so I would venture to say others do too, but the question is why?

    I am going on vacation this next week with my family. I plan to count calories, exercise at least a few days, and limit my alcohol intake, with respect that I am on vacation and it is okay to cheat a little. However, I guarantee I will have a day or two where I say to heck with all of it and do what I want; a.k.a. cheat a lot. I then will regret it - most likely the next day because I had too much to drink or drank the wrong thing (beer/gluten).

    My big questions for everyone about this are: Do you ever find yourself rebelling? If so, why do you think this happens? Does rebelling really help us reach our goals? What are some strategies to help avoid this?
  • Gidgitgoescrzy
    Gidgitgoescrzy Posts: 294 Member

    My big questions for everyone about this are: Do you ever find yourself rebelling? If so, why do you think this happens? Does rebelling really help us reach our goals? What are some strategies to help avoid this?


    Absolutely, I rebel at times. I think it is because I get frustrated, because what I want to happen isn't happening as quickly as I would like it to, and I just get that thought, "ugh why bother".

    No rebelling doesn't help us, but I have noticed, I rebel less and less as I stay on the path, because I really do want this to work, so I think the longer we can stay on the wagon, the less we will slip off.

    I think some strategies are to really pay attention to how you feel after rebelling, I can't think of a time where I said, " screw it" and truly felt good about it, sure it gave me instant gratification in that moment, but that was it, it did not last, and I felt like crap later in the day, or the next day.

    I did this with drinking, I typically drank to excess, and then the next day was just horrible. I guess it finally clicked, WHY am I doing this to myself, it's not worth it. The drinking may be a large key as to why I am rebelling less also. Food has always been my comfort, and after drinking I always felt horrible, so that was when I wanted that comfort.

    Great Question !





  • lauren_989
    lauren_989 Posts: 1,360 Member
    edited November 2023
    I have heard of it called self sabatoge instead of rebel. I agree with @Gidgitgoescrzy and think that I am not losing weight fast enough, sometimes I get depressed which doesnt help, and sometimes I think life isn't fair and why can't I just eat the tasty food!

    Then when I see the scale go up, I kick my butt back in gear until it happens again. 🙈🤷🏼‍♀️
  • jugar
    jugar Posts: 10,262 Member
    Yesterday when I got home, I was feeling so incredibly lethargic and just so tired. Took my blood pressure it was 100/60 - Now that is not go to the hospital low, but it's low, especially for me. and like she said, everyone reacts differently to stuff. So lets find out if this is what is happening. I really dislike drs that say, oh thats not what it could be, low blood pressure only makes you dizzy and faint.

    So I am to stop the one med and take my blood pressure 2 times a day. Then check back in on friday to see if I can discontinue that one for good. :smiley:

    That will be great if you can get off any unnecessary meds! My bp is always quite low, and I have to be careful to drink enough water to keep it up. And eat salt! Not my fave thing to do, but it beats the weird feeling of low pressure. You have been losing weight pretty steadily lately, especially the past 2 weeks. That is sure to have a strong effect. Good for you! But don't lose too fast :grimace:
  • jugar
    jugar Posts: 10,262 Member
    Thanks for the rebellion question @MaddawgMadsen . It is one of the things that needs a good hard look for sure. The inner rebel's tendency to hit the F** It button when feeling too hemmed in by rules, "good" behaviour, instructions, and all the "shoulds" can be really intense. It feels great to hit the F** It button.

    But as a couple of you have already said, that great feeling is very short-lived. And it does not save us from the restrictions we love to hate. It feels pretty horrible afterwards, and then we still have the problem to solve. As @Gidgitgoescrzy said, though - the longer we take the steps towards our goals and stop believing in the use of rebelling against good things, the better! And who wants to rebel against that?

    But (again!) bad slips can still happen. Triggers are a physical reality - certain kinds of food and drink will kick that yum reaction into overdrive. That's not rebellion, it's chemical - although reaching for those foods in the first place might be a kind of rebellion. The hardest part for me is that hitting the FI button is not really done by the most conscious, intelligent parts of my brain. I guess that is why avoiding or limiting trigger foods feels like such annoying restriction in the first place. Interesting topic for sure!

    Bring on more discussion :smiley:
  • micki48
    micki48 Posts: 2,322 Member
    Sorry to hear your trip had a big hiccup Ashley and Brad. Hope you get home soon and can feel rested and back on track. @jugar glad to hear you and your son arrived in NC just fine. Say hi to my son down there in Charlotte. :)

    @Gidgitgoescrzy I have been thinking of you the last couple days as I do stomach vacuums.

    I just got over a cold and now I have another or it came back. I don't know. Not fun. Making me very tired. My shoulder was really hurting the other night. The next day at school, I fell and I think it put the shoulder back in the right place. I was fine except a tender spot on the pad of my hand. I was SOOO thankful because when I fell, my mouth was about two inches from the edge of the sidewalk. So glad I didn't hit my teeth. Wew! I'm off tomorrow to go to the dermatologist with my husband.

    I need to get back to logging my food. been slacking the last week. Take care.
  • jugar
    jugar Posts: 10,262 Member
    @micki48 your shoulder story is like my wrist one last week! I love it when a fall that you think is a disaster actually fixes something! But seriously, you came close to a bad one. Enjoy that shoulder now that it does not hurt anymore :smiley:
  • Kali225
    Kali225 Posts: 701 Member
    loving the discussion about rebelling and self-sabotage, I am very much guilty of that as well. I'll have to think a bit more on my "why I do that" but I am just totally exhausted today. My TOM has hit HARD, my arm workout tonight was such a struggle. So weak and tired. Glad I am finally in bed around the time I planned to be. dreamland, take me away.
  • Gidgitgoescrzy
    Gidgitgoescrzy Posts: 294 Member
    PW 166.2
    Cw 167.4

    I knew this would happen, but hey it could have been worse. I will get back to it. My goal now is to have 3 losses in a row... LOL

    I get to go get blood work done today, but I got her to do an inflammation panel and insulin panel on me. I think I have needed these for a long time, so it will be interesting to see what it says.

    Does anyone else keep a spreadsheet of all of their blood work, I have one with my blood work back to 2015 - I do this because although they say these are the levels that are normal, not everyone has the same normal, this way, I will know my normal. Who doesn't love a good spreadsheet. :wink:

    I had a self sabotage moment last night, I knew today was weigh in day, and that I would have a gain, so I ate somethings I shouldn't have eaten. It's like I thought this won't count because I am already up...

    But today is a new week :smile:

    Have a great day !
  • MaddawgMadsen
    MaddawgMadsen Posts: 328 Member
    PW: 173.4
    CW: 172.2

    Tuesday, November 14th - 9,379 steps, one hour of CrossFit

    I'm pretty sure the weight loss is only because I had a couple of days without movement or food because I was sick, but I'll take it.

    I feel like I should answer my own questions now, too. So, I definitely rebel or self-sabotage and I still haven't found a reason why other than it's part of my nature as a human. It definitely does not help with my goals especially the way I do it. My biggest self-sabotaging habit is drinking. Once I drink, my inhibitions go down and then I hit my point of not caring. That becomes a spiral of overindulgence and it can happen so easily. Strategies to help for me include making a plan, listening to my body so that I can reasonably adjust the plan as I need to, and setting small, attainable goals.
  • MaddawgMadsen
    MaddawgMadsen Posts: 328 Member
    Does anyone else keep a spreadsheet of all of their blood work, I have one with my blood work back to 2015 - I do this because although they say these are the levels that are normal, not everyone has the same normal, this way, I will know my normal. Who doesn't love a good spreadsheet. :wink:

    Oh! I LOVE a good spreadsheet! Seriously. I've had to stop my husband on many occasions from buying shirts or mugs that say stuff like,"I Excel in the Sheets". Working with spreadsheets is my happy place ... I donate blood once every two months and I keep a spreadsheet of the vitals they take. I haven't started one for my blood work, but I really like the idea of doing that.
  • cleaneater80
    cleaneater80 Posts: 472 Member
    PW - 166.4
    CW - 166.4

    Love this topic just as we start the holiday season. I agree @MaddawgMadsen drinking is a trigger for me with the F-it mentality and something I know I need to be conscious about in the next few months.
  • daria0919
    daria0919 Posts: 1,138 Member
    PW - 166.4
    CW - 166.4

    Love this topic just as we start the holiday season. I agree @MaddawgMadsen drinking is a trigger for me with the F-it mentality and something I know I need to be conscious about in the next few months.

    I’m right there with you guys! That’s one of two main reasons I mostly stopped drinking.
  • jugar
    jugar Posts: 10,262 Member
    Well, Wednesday has flown by! I got a few important bank and other tasks done with mom, spent some great time with some of her friends, had a good gym sweatfest, and got prepared for the avalanche of work that will hit tomorrow afternoon as soon as I arrive in Montreal. For once I am glad that documents can be reviewed together with people far away.

    Keep the chat about how to deal with our rebellious natures rolling, and send in those weigh-ins! Here is the due list through Thursday:
    @Betsy___
    @strong_fit_ells
    @KellyBgetsFit
    @JScottJr1988
    @ashleycarole86
    @conleywoods
    @eggfreak
    @bowens1973

    Thanks!
  • Kali225
    Kali225 Posts: 701 Member
    another quick check-in from me. got some delayed soreness from lower body day on monday + regular soreness from arms yesterday, but the kind that kind of makes you feel good. I do need a good stretch tomorrow before the next workout.

    But first, I am trying to get in the car at 5AM to drive about 3.5hrs to upstate NY for an early jump on the Thanksgiving holiday. I'll work remote until next Thursday, which I am excited for. I really should already be snoring. ta!
  • ashleycarole86
    ashleycarole86 Posts: 6,303 Member
    Well folks it looks like I too am succumbing to illness!!
    Brad and I finally made it home last night and I put him straight to bed. But I had soccer at 9:45 p.m.. which was 11:45 p.m. in the time zone I came from, anyway between the hectic travel the past few days and not sleeping well because of Brad's sickness and then the last game I now appear to be coming down with the same. The timing is bad as work is hectic, I have family with us for the next ~10 days or so in celebration of my dad's 75th birthday coming up, and we go to Disney at the start of December. Just feeling overwhelmed and out of my routine and that's not boding well for my healthy lifestyle I tell ya.
    I made it to work today but throughout the day I was declining.. maybe I'll have a miracle recovery overnight but it doesn't seem likely. Off to bed to try to heal up!
    Thanks for all the nice comments regarding our rough travel adventure. It happens sometimes but I definitely feel like a day of my life just got lost in the mix!

    @MaddawgMadsen
    I am the queen of self-sabotage when it come to my diet, always have been. There is a voice in me that compels me to binge and the feelings afterwards are so hard to cope. I feel out of control, then I beat myself up.. then I will myself into better behavior.
    I had gotten myself out of that pattern for quite a long time but I'm back in my higher stress circumstances and that's always been how I've coped.
    I am going to therapy in hopes that in healing some of my issues overall it will help with some of these behaviors.

    Sleep well all and stay away from all the nasty viruses spreading out there!!!
  • Gidgitgoescrzy
    Gidgitgoescrzy Posts: 294 Member
    @ashleycarole86 I hope you feel better soon, with all of your traveling and adventures, it's easy to catch a bug.

    I got on the scale this morning and I was down, and would have had a loss if today was my weigh in day, WHY DOES THAT ALWAYS HAPPEN ! lol I thought about changing my weigh in day, but I think I am not going to, I think if I do that it will leave me to the "but I have 4/5 days till I weigh in, I can eat that today" mindset.

    I have a 3 day weekend this weekend, then a 4 day weekend next week, so this is going to be a tough 2 weeks. It is our 6 mile hike weekend, so I think I will split these, and do 3 on Friday, and 3 on Saturday. I have a lot going on Friday, and will be out running errands till at least 2, so we should be able to hit a park and do 3 miles, sometimes though my husband isn't willing to do afternoon hikes, he is definitely a morning person, when we plan a hike, we are out by 7am.

    Have a great day !

  • MaddawgMadsen
    MaddawgMadsen Posts: 328 Member
    Well folks it looks like I too am succumbing to illness!!

    I am the queen of self-sabotage when it come to my diet, always have been. There is a voice in me that compels me to binge and the feelings afterwards are so hard to cope. I feel out of control, then I beat myself up.. then I will myself into better behavior.
    I had gotten myself out of that pattern for quite a long time but I'm back in my higher stress circumstances and that's always been how I've coped.
    I am going to therapy in hopes that in healing some of my issues overall it will help with some of these behaviors.

    First off, I hope you beat whatever illness this is and feel better quickly!

    Secondly, I love that you are utilizing therapy to help! It is often overlooked which is sad because it can be quite helpful.

    Lastly, where you said, "I feel out of control, then I beat myself up.." I can 100% relate to this and I bet I'm not the only one. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if almost everyone in this group could relate. What if, instead of beating ourselves up we retrain our brains to realize the occasional slip-up is going to happen, and that's okay? If we could do this, we would at the very least minimize negative feelings. But, additionally we would shorten the time between our sabotage and getting back on track, which would ultimately shorten the time between today and our goals.

    I think that will be the strategy I implement. Knowing myself, I am going to have a couple self-sabotage days over the next week if not every day. The past has shown that I do great until a trip like this, or just over the holidays. I relax, think about the progress I have made, and turn that into a reason to stop working towards my goal. Next thing I know it's been a month or more of daily poor choices and I am back where I started. So, on this trip, I will focus on sticking to my goals, but not beating myself up when I don't. Hopefully, that will keep me from going down the self-deprecating rabbit hole when I return.

    What other thoughts are out there about rebellion/self-sabotage and ways to overcome it?
  • ashleycarole86
    ashleycarole86 Posts: 6,303 Member
    edited November 2023
    Username ashleycarole86
    Thursday weigh-in

    PW 221
    CW 221.2
  • ashleycarole86
    ashleycarole86 Posts: 6,303 Member
    Thanks for all the well-wishes!
    Had to call in sick to work today, well not quite as I am working from home, but didn't go into the office
    Brad is asleep beside me.. he has had it quite rough!
    @MaddawgMadsen Absolutely - you are right about a mindset shift helping here. Something I am constantly working on. I am getting a lot out of therapy but sometimes it feels like I almost have to get a bit worse before I make improvements. Or maybe it's just the season of life I'm in that's making me feel that way. In any event, it's a constant work in progress!
  • MaddawgMadsen
    MaddawgMadsen Posts: 328 Member
    Wednesday, November 15 - 8,341 steps, 40 minutes of spin
    Thursday, November 16 - no steps. I forgot my watch :s , but I did do an hour of CrossFit, two longer than normal walks at work, and I still have shopping and packing tonight. So, I know that I will hit my step goal (if I haven't already), I just don't know the exact number.

    Also, this might be the last you hear from me for at least a few days. We leave tomorrow for our Thanksgiving vacation. I will try to login sometime during the next week, but cannot guarantee much interaction.

    Cheers!
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