EPLWE! general chit chat thread.

BrainyBurro
BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
this is the thread for general chit chat and discussions about IIFYM or this challenge.
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  • Some_Watery_Tart
    Some_Watery_Tart Posts: 2,250 Member
    I'm still trying to figure out what food I could use in place of pizza. My nutritionist would really rather I didn't involve refined carbs like bread and pasta (for my IR). Any ideas? Bacon maybe? I don't want it to be too easy.
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    Thanks for making a chit-chat thread! :flowerforyou:

    Just want to say I :heart: IIFYM. I can have my cake (or pizza in this case) and eat it too. Suffer no repercussions and life is good. Amen.
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    I'm still trying to figure out what food I could use in place of pizza. My nutritionist would really rather I didn't involve refined carbs like bread and pasta (for my IR). Any ideas? Bacon maybe? I don't want it to be too easy.

    ...bunless pizza burgers FTW.....
  • Cindyinpg
    Cindyinpg Posts: 3,902 Member
    Tacos?
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    I'm still trying to figure out what food I could use in place of pizza. My nutritionist would really rather I didn't involve refined carbs like bread and pasta (for my IR). Any ideas? Bacon maybe? I don't want it to be too easy.

    can you do 1 donut every morning for breakfast? or how about a chocolate something-or-other every day? not chocolate flavored, but an actual candy bar of some sort. that's just a couple hundred calories and can add fats to your day for you. Halloween is coming up and you can buy those bags of mini candy bars now and EASILY fit one or two of them into your macros each day. if i wasn't doing pizza, i might also consider those pumpkin pie pop tarts instead... there's not much fat or protein in them, so they are a food that's really vilified on here by certain folks. i think they're fine in moderation though. maybe a poptart ice cream sandwich would do the trick. :)
  • Some_Watery_Tart
    Some_Watery_Tart Posts: 2,250 Member
    Maybe peanut butter M&M's? Protein and fat....yum! I like the pizza burger and taco ideas though. There's a Taco Bell on the way home from work.
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    Maybe peanut butter M&M's? Protein and fat....yum! I like the pizza burger and taco ideas though. There's a Taco Bell on the way home from work.

    Oh no, you have to try the PUMPKIN SPICE M&Ms. Those are totally fitting for October! :love:
  • Some_Watery_Tart
    Some_Watery_Tart Posts: 2,250 Member
    Maybe peanut butter M&M's? Protein and fat....yum! I like the pizza burger and taco ideas though. There's a Taco Bell on the way home from work.

    Oh no, you have to try the PUMPKIN SPICE M&Ms. Those are totally fitting for October! :love:
    I don't know about those...I like pumpkin spice, but I don't know if I could handle that. Have you see the candy corn M&Ms?
  • Chevy_Quest
    Chevy_Quest Posts: 2,012 Member
    "ViLified Foods".. NowI Have An image OfAngry Villagers With Pitchforks And torches!

    Cue A Gif Now!
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    "ViLified Foods".. NowI Have An image OfAngry Villagers With Pitchforks And torches!

    Cue A Gif Now!

    Shhhh you might piss off the clean eaters!
    angry-mob2.jpg
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    Maybe peanut butter M&M's? Protein and fat....yum! I like the pizza burger and taco ideas though. There's a Taco Bell on the way home from work.

    Oh no, you have to try the PUMPKIN SPICE M&Ms. Those are totally fitting for October! :love:
    I don't know about those...I like pumpkin spice, but I don't know if I could handle that. Have you see the candy corn M&Ms?

    Oh i wish I liked candy corn. The pumpkin spice ones aren't bad. Kind of like a chocolate red hot, just not spicy, if you like that sort of thing.
  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member
    I thought some of you might find this IIFYM video by Layne Norton interesting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8

    He specifically mentions pizza in the video
  • Chevy_Quest
    Chevy_Quest Posts: 2,012 Member
    @LadyKT

    You NAILED It Most Excellent - :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: :laugh:
    "ViLified Foods".. NowI Have An image OfAngry Villagers With Pitchforks And torches!

    Cue A Gif Now!

    Shhhh you might piss off the clean eaters!
    --- Awesome Simpson's Image --
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    I thought some of you might find this IIFYM video by Layne Norton interesting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8

    He specifically mentions pizza in the video

    FWIW, minimalistshoeaddict inspired this challenge. he's always doing unusual food challenges for himself, so i decided to throw my hat in the ring with this one. there is another eating challenge group on here (i don't know the group name offhand) where they challenge each other to eat certain amounts of calories in certain periods of time, but those guys are mostly bulking and need extra calories. maybe when minimalistshoeaddict sees this post, he can provide the link for those interested in seeing what they do in that group.
  • cem614
    cem614 Posts: 54 Member
    Maybe peanut butter M&M's? Protein and fat....yum! I like the pizza burger and taco ideas though. There's a Taco Bell on the way home from work.

    Oh no, you have to try the PUMPKIN SPICE M&Ms. Those are totally fitting for October! :love:

    WHAT?!! THESE THINGS EXIST?? :love:
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    @LadyKT

    You NAILED It Most Excellent - :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: :laugh:

    I know it too well....sadly.... :noway:
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    Maybe peanut butter M&M's? Protein and fat....yum! I like the pizza burger and taco ideas though. There's a Taco Bell on the way home from work.

    Oh no, you have to try the PUMPKIN SPICE M&Ms. Those are totally fitting for October! :love:

    WHAT?!! THESE THINGS EXIST?? :love:

    Tar-jay.....or just Target :smokin:
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    I thought some of you might find this IIFYM video by Layne Norton interesting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8

    He specifically mentions pizza in the video

    FWIW, minimalistshoeaddict inspired this challenge. he's always doing unusual food challenges for himself, so i decided to throw my hat in the ring with this one. there is another eating challenge group on here (i don't know the group name offhand) where they challenge each other to eat certain amounts of calories in certain periods of time, but those guys are mostly bulking and need extra calories. maybe when minimalistshoeaddict sees this post, he can provide the link for those interested in seeing what they do in that group.

    Pizza can be healthy, if the right toppings are chosen. No reason why it can't be eaten daily!

    Now eating daily kit-kats or something, or heck Pumpkin Spice M&Ms (guilty), might be a different story....
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    I thought some of you might find this IIFYM video by Layne Norton interesting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8

    He specifically mentions pizza in the video

    FWIW, minimalistshoeaddict inspired this challenge. he's always doing unusual food challenges for himself, so i decided to throw my hat in the ring with this one. there is another eating challenge group on here (i don't know the group name offhand) where they challenge each other to eat certain amounts of calories in certain periods of time, but those guys are mostly bulking and need extra calories. maybe when minimalistshoeaddict sees this post, he can provide the link for those interested in seeing what they do in that group.

    Pizza can be healthy, if the right toppings are chosen. No reason why it can't be eaten daily!

    Now eating daily kit-kats or something, or heck Pumpkin Spice M&Ms (guilty), might be a different story....

    it's just a matter of adjusting the amounts and then choosing your other foods wisely... anyone can find room for a daily treat in their diet. they just have to have the understanding of how to do it and the willpower not to let a couple of Hershey's kisses turn into a whole bag of Hershey's kisses in one sitting. i think by not depriving yourself and eating small amounts of foods you love daily, you fight off the urge to binge. that's my experience. i still do occasionally of course. i ate a whole bag of pretzels watching the game on Sunday. fortunately, i have a high TDEE so those 1500-1600 calories weren't a problem. but it would have been better to stop at half a bag. :tongue:
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member

    it's just a matter of adjusting the amounts and then choosing your other foods wisely... anyone can find room for a daily treat in their diet. they just have to have the understanding of how to do it and the willpower not to let a couple of Hershey's kisses turn into a whole bag of Hershey's kisses in one sitting. i think by not depriving yourself and eating small amounts of foods you love daily, you fight off the urge to binge. that's my experience. i still do occasionally of course. i ate a whole bag of pretzels watching the game on Sunday. fortunately, i have a high TDEE so those 1500-1600 calories weren't a problem. but it would have been better to stop at half a bag. :tongue:

    Oh thats not what i meant. I mean, lets say you eat your protein (and some fat) allotment in chicken. You still will have cals, carbs and the like leftover. Does that mean you can eat the remainder in say gummy bears? How does one function w all that sugar, or is IIFYM a little more balanced, allowing for some treats, not crazy ways to fit a lot of junk in there?
  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member
    I thought some of you might find this IIFYM video by Layne Norton interesting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8

    He specifically mentions pizza in the video

    FWIW, minimalistshoeaddict inspired this challenge. he's always doing unusual food challenges for himself, so i decided to throw my hat in the ring with this one. there is another eating challenge group on here (i don't know the group name offhand) where they challenge each other to eat certain amounts of calories in certain periods of time, but those guys are mostly bulking and need extra calories. maybe when minimalistshoeaddict sees this post, he can provide the link for those interested in seeing what they do in that group.

    Thanks! I think this is the group you are referring to. Anyone interested should feel free to join!

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/7058-mfp-speed-eating-competition-
  • Cindyinpg
    Cindyinpg Posts: 3,902 Member

    it's just a matter of adjusting the amounts and then choosing your other foods wisely... anyone can find room for a daily treat in their diet. they just have to have the understanding of how to do it and the willpower not to let a couple of Hershey's kisses turn into a whole bag of Hershey's kisses in one sitting. i think by not depriving yourself and eating small amounts of foods you love daily, you fight off the urge to binge. that's my experience. i still do occasionally of course. i ate a whole bag of pretzels watching the game on Sunday. fortunately, i have a high TDEE so those 1500-1600 calories weren't a problem. but it would have been better to stop at half a bag. :tongue:

    Oh thats not what i meant. I mean, lets say you eat your protein (and some fat) allotment in chicken. You still will have cals, carbs and the like leftover. Does that mean you can eat the remainder in say gummy bears? How does one function w all that sugar, or is IIFYM a little more balanced, allowing for some treats, not crazy ways to fit a lot of junk in there?
    I think it's a very much a personal choice. Myself, I don't worry about sugar or sodium, neither seem to affect me or my weight loss. Here's an example of applying IIFYM to a lower intake day. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/925464-fitting-it-in-giggity
    She could've had gummie bears, but the ice cream fit in nicely and, equally as important, was what she wanted.
  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member

    it's just a matter of adjusting the amounts and then choosing your other foods wisely... anyone can find room for a daily treat in their diet. they just have to have the understanding of how to do it and the willpower not to let a couple of Hershey's kisses turn into a whole bag of Hershey's kisses in one sitting. i think by not depriving yourself and eating small amounts of foods you love daily, you fight off the urge to binge. that's my experience. i still do occasionally of course. i ate a whole bag of pretzels watching the game on Sunday. fortunately, i have a high TDEE so those 1500-1600 calories weren't a problem. but it would have been better to stop at half a bag. :tongue:

    Oh thats not what i meant. I mean, lets say you eat your protein (and some fat) allotment in chicken. You still will have cals, carbs and the like leftover. Does that mean you can eat the remainder in say gummy bears? How does one function w all that sugar, or is IIFYM a little more balanced, allowing for some treats, not crazy ways to fit a lot of junk in there?

    In the example you just provided (of getting all your protein and fat from chicken and all remaining calories and carbs from gummy bears) the diet would be deficient in fiber.

    While fiber is a micro nutrient (not a macro nutrient) it is mentioned specifically in the Layne Norton (PhD in Nutritional Sciences) video I linked. I track fiber as well. Most days (except just prior to a race where I limit it on purpose) my fiber is close to goal.

    Sodium and sugar intake concerns are different for different people. Obviously a diabetic with high blood pressure (for example) is in a different situation than I am.

    For someone like me both sodium and sugar have an important purpose while training for a marathon:

    Sodium:
    http://www.runnersworld.com/nutrition-runners/pass-salt?page=single

    For most endurance athletes with normal blood pressure, too little sodium is more of a concern than too much. This is part of the reason endurance athletes drink Gatorade to replace their electrolytes (potassium and sodium although the importance of calcium, magnesium etc should not be ignored either). Muscle cramping is often caused by low sodium levels. If you often get cramps during/after a long run, swim in the pool or ride on the bike this is something you might want to research as a possible cause.

    Sugar:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1091070-carb-loading-the-western-australia-method
    http://beta.active.com/nutrition/articles/the-evolving-art-of-carbo-loading?page=2
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12048325

    Large quantities of high glucose index foods such as gummy bears (over a short period of time) can help you attain supranormal muscle glycogen levels which can be very helpful prior to an endurance event such as a marathon (or long distance cycling such as in the cited study)

    My point is that while certain micro nutrients are important, don't assume that lots of Doritos (sodium) or gummy bears (sugar) are necessarily bad for everyone in every situation.

    For the record I plan on eating a ton of gummy bears or similar foods this Saturday prior to my marathon on Sunday. I used the same method (carb loading protocol with high glucose index foods as described in the strudy above) prior to my 25k race last month
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    Ah ok, i get it a little better now. Im just trying to understand IIFYM a little better - theres a right way and a wrong way to do it, right? Or is there no wrong way? I like the fiber idea. I may add that in as well.
  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member
    Ah ok, i get it a little better now. Im just trying to understand IIFYM a little better - theres a right way and a wrong way to do it, right? Or is there no wrong way? I like the fiber idea. I may add that in as well.

    You will do great! Different people can be successful with different macro and micro nutrient targets.

    I definitely would not tell anyone their method is "wrong" if its working for them!

    I am just here because I love pizza and I like to encourage people to continue eating the foods they love as part of a balanced diet instead of giving them up completely:)

    Some people may like this idea and some may hate it but there is one thing that really helped me a lot:
    I track all of my calorie and macro targets on a WEEKLY basis. This takes all guilt and stress away from my diet because I know I can exceed my average daily target one day by a large margin and still hit my weekly goal by the end of the week.
  • Chevy_Quest
    Chevy_Quest Posts: 2,012 Member
    Liking life already:

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  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member
    Liking life already:

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    Five Guys + Pizza = Delicious menu!
  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    Liking life already:

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    Nom...Nom....Nom....
  • Cindyinpg
    Cindyinpg Posts: 3,902 Member
    Here's my contribution: tonight's dessert:
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  • cem614
    cem614 Posts: 54 Member
    Here's my contribution: tonight's dessert:
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    Ohhh myyyy.....I need to step it up.

    What is it?