TDEE - What is it and why you should not eat below your BMR

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  • jomatho
    jomatho Posts: 311 Member
    I don't think it is worth the risk. You are only talking about 2 weeks in the grand scheme of things. Up the calories on June 2nd!
  • 31prvrbs
    31prvrbs Posts: 687 Member
    I NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QUICK RESPONSES PLEASE??????????????

    Okay. So I've been eating WAY under apparently. But now that I've been reading this and as long as I got the numbers thing right I need to be eating 1949 everyday (was eatin 1200 for about 4 months) my TDEE is 2292 and BMR is 1493. And if I workout and I burn more than 456 calories that day I need to get enough to get above my BMR.

    So as long as I got that right? Here's where I need the urgent help.

    I have a wedding that I'm in June 1st. My dress fits perfect, snug but it's strapless and I'm bigger chested so I like it like that, I know my "guys" as I call them aren't going anywhere. BUT, should I go ahead and start eating my 1900 calories today and continue it and just take a chance? I can NOT gain anything in my belly area between now and June 1st or my dress will NOT fit. I promise. I need help. What should I do? It's a size 8 and the way the dress is, can not be taken out and my hair will be up so it's not like we could mess with it or anything, cause it would be noticeable. And I don't want to look uncomfortable in this dress. I've lost 50lbs so far and have worked hard to get here today but don't want to look like I ordered a to small of a dress! PLEASE HELP. You can message me if that's easier! THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE!

    As much as it pains me to say it :sick: ...I'd wait until after the wedding. The risk of gaining is just too high. :frown:

    I would just take this time to get prepared mentally for what will take place. Scour the EM2WL forums, and watch all the vids, etc,. so that after the wedding you are fully prepared to dive in.

    I would NEVER, EVER recommend it, :noway: but in this case, I just think that you would be pushing it to hope not to experience even the slightest bit of bloat during the transition.

    Enjoy the wedding, and we look forward to seeing you in a couple weeks, missy :wink:



    ~Kiki
  • 31prvrbs
    31prvrbs Posts: 687 Member
    Ths saturday will be week 5 for me. My weight has gone up 6lbs total....down 1lb last week. I have to admit I am not feeling confident that something amazing is going to happen in the next week and a half...
    What should I do if this is the case? Could I be eating too much?

    I'm 31
    5'5 1/2
    Currently 135lbs (was 130.6)
    BMR 1400.
    TDEE (4-6days of exercise per week) = 2170
    15% cut = 1844....rounded to 1800


    If you lost 1lb last week, why are you doubtful of another loss in the next wk and a half?
  • Ralstonk2
    Ralstonk2 Posts: 345 Member
    I NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QUICK RESPONSES PLEASE??????????????

    Okay. So I've been eating WAY under apparently. But now that I've been reading this and as long as I got the numbers thing right I need to be eating 1949 everyday (was eatin 1200 for about 4 months) my TDEE is 2292 and BMR is 1493. And if I workout and I burn more than 456 calories that day I need to get enough to get above my BMR.

    So as long as I got that right? Here's where I need the urgent help.

    I have a wedding that I'm in June 1st. My dress fits perfect, snug but it's strapless and I'm bigger chested so I like it like that, I know my "guys" as I call them aren't going anywhere. BUT, should I go ahead and start eating my 1900 calories today and continue it and just take a chance? I can NOT gain anything in my belly area between now and June 1st or my dress will NOT fit. I promise. I need help. What should I do? It's a size 8 and the way the dress is, can not be taken out and my hair will be up so it's not like we could mess with it or anything, cause it would be noticeable. And I don't want to look uncomfortable in this dress. I've lost 50lbs so far and have worked hard to get here today but don't want to look like I ordered a to small of a dress! PLEASE HELP. You can message me if that's easier! THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE!

    As much as it pains me to say it :sick: ...I'd wait until after the wedding. The risk of gaining is just too high. :frown:

    I would just take this time to get prepared mentally for what will take place. Scour the EM2WL forums, and watch all the vids, etc,. so that after the wedding you are fully prepared to dive in.

    I would NEVER, EVER recommend it, :noway: but in this case, I just think that you would be pushing it to hope not to experience even the slightest bit of bloat during the transition.

    Enjoy the wedding, and we look forward to seeing you in a couple weeks, missy :wink:



    ~Kiki

    Okay! THANK YOU so much! Right now I am eating around 1400 calories though. Some days have been 1500 ish. But I don't want to go that high to 1900 2 weeks before. I'll be back though. And I'll still be here. I log in everyday. :)
  • Thank you thank you for all of this information. I have been using MFP for awhile, and I have been stuck at200 lbs for weeks now. I initially lost about 16 lbs. didn't expect to plateau so soon. This really helps, and I'm hoping will take my weight loss, as well as the use of this app to the next level. I have been way, way under according to what myTDEE/BMR has been calculated. Can't wait to see what happens. Again, thank you!
  • kblue2007
    kblue2007 Posts: 2,564 Member
    Ths saturday will be week 5 for me. My weight has gone up 6lbs total....down 1lb last week. I have to admit I am not feeling confident that something amazing is going to happen in the next week and a half...
    What should I do if this is the case? Could I be eating too much?

    I'm 31
    5'5 1/2
    Currently 135lbs (was 130.6)
    BMR 1400.
    TDEE (4-6days of exercise per week) = 2170
    15% cut = 1844....rounded to 1800


    If you lost 1lb last week, why are you doubtful of another loss in the next wk and a half?

    Kiki-I am feeling very bloated and my clothes are not fitting very well. I figured that would be gone by now??
  • cindiva65
    cindiva65 Posts: 335 Member
    Ok a newbie to MFP trying to get this figured out. MFP has given me 1200 cals a day which I have been abiding to and not eating back many if any of my exercise calories a day. Here are my stats:

    Female, 47 yrs old
    Desk job
    Walking 30-60 min at least 3x a week
    current 190 lbs
    goal 150-160 lbs

    Calculator gave me the following

    BMR 1569
    TDEE 2158
    15% reduction 1834

    So do I have this correct that I am really suppose to be eating 1834 daily to lose weight and when I exercise make sure I do not go below 1569 on those days? Is it ok to eat anywhere in between the 1569 to 1834, just never below 1569? After eating 1200 calories and getting used to it that seems like a lot more food than Im used to!!! Thanks for the input.
  • ANewLucia
    ANewLucia Posts: 2,081 Member
    Ok a newbie to MFP trying to get this figured out. MFP has given me 1200 cals a day which I have been abiding to and not eating back many if any of my exercise calories a day. Here are my stats:

    Female, 47 yrs old
    Desk job
    Walking 30-60 min at least 3x a week
    current 190 lbs
    goal 150-160 lbs

    Calculator gave me the following

    BMR 1569
    TDEE 2158
    15% reduction 1834

    So do I have this correct that I am really suppose to be eating 1834 daily to lose weight and when I exercise make sure I do not go below 1569 on those days? Is it ok to eat anywhere in between the 1569 to 1834, just never below 1569? After eating 1200 calories and getting used to it that seems like a lot more food than Im used to!!! Thanks for the input.

    If you have been low caling, it is much better to be consistent for the first 6weeks to get your body to trust that this isn't just some binge cycle you are on. Trust me, your body will use the fuel and will burn higher because you are giving yourself more food. Eat the 1834 every single day and make sure not to net less than 1569 on workout days. Take pics, take measurements and put away the scale...give it time, don't stress and enjoy the process. It really does work! Even more so when the mind is prepared for some initial swings...take a look at "What to expect when upping cals".
  • ANewLucia
    ANewLucia Posts: 2,081 Member
    Ths saturday will be week 5 for me. My weight has gone up 6lbs total....down 1lb last week. I have to admit I am not feeling confident that something amazing is going to happen in the next week and a half...
    What should I do if this is the case? Could I be eating too much?

    I'm 31
    5'5 1/2
    Currently 135lbs (was 130.6)
    BMR 1400.
    TDEE (4-6days of exercise per week) = 2170
    15% cut = 1844....rounded to 1800


    If you lost 1lb last week, why are you doubtful of another loss in the next wk and a half?

    Kiki-I am feeling very bloated and my clothes are not fitting very well. I figured that would be gone by now??

    Oh my goodness, I took a look at your menu thinking maybe something there is causing the bloat...I will tell you to try stopping the Benefiber...oh I had a horrible experience with it...it caused me severe bloating, excess gas, and constipation...TMI I know...but that may be the issue.
  • mgaither
    mgaither Posts: 115
    If I have this right, this is what my calorie intake should be?

    I'm 26, 5feet tall, and 116 pounds.

    BMR = 1313
    TDEE = 2035
    TDEE (-15%) = 1729

    For my calorie intake...

    Non-workout days: Average 1600-1700 cals
    Lifting Days: Average 1800-1900 cals
    Cardio Days: Try to net 1600-1700 cals, but AT LEAST 1300

    Sound about right????

    Okay, day one and I've already confused myself.....

    Am I supposed to be NETTING these amounts? (For example, today I've eaten 1700 calories. I'm done eating for the day. In a few hours I'm going to go bike ride and burn 500-600 calories...at the end of my bike ride, do I just log the exercise and call it a day? Or and I supposed to eat more?)
  • ANewLucia
    ANewLucia Posts: 2,081 Member
    If I have this right, this is what my calorie intake should be?

    I'm 26, 5feet tall, and 116 pounds.

    BMR = 1313
    TDEE = 2035
    TDEE (-15%) = 1729

    For my calorie intake...

    Non-workout days: Average 1600-1700 cals
    Lifting Days: Average 1800-1900 cals
    Cardio Days: Try to net 1600-1700 cals, but AT LEAST 1300

    Sound about right????

    Okay, day one and I've already confused myself.....

    Am I supposed to be NETTING these amounts? (For example, today I've eaten 1700 calories. I'm done eating for the day. In a few hours I'm going to go bike ride and burn 500-600 calories...at the end of my bike ride, do I just log the exercise and call it a day? Or and I supposed to eat more?)
    .

    Eat 1729 rain, sleet or shine and only eat more if you burn more than 400 cals, then you eat the excess:-)
  • angelina2585
    angelina2585 Posts: 273 Member
    Hi Lucia, I have a question :) You said a few posts back to be consistent and eat the cut amount for 6 weeks, every day. Which I am more than happy doing, by the way. I find that I am quite obsessive about hitting my target!

    Once the 6 weeks are over is it ok then to eat maybe 100 - 200 less for a day or 2 and roll it over to a day you know you'll be eating more, say a party or whatever?

    Thanks and loving all the advice you give.
  • mgaither
    mgaither Posts: 115
    If I have this right, this is what my calorie intake should be?

    I'm 26, 5feet tall, and 116 pounds.

    BMR = 1313
    TDEE = 2035
    TDEE (-15%) = 1729

    For my calorie intake...

    Non-workout days: Average 1600-1700 cals
    Lifting Days: Average 1800-1900 cals
    Cardio Days: Try to net 1600-1700 cals, but AT LEAST 1300

    Sound about right????

    Okay, day one and I've already confused myself.....

    Am I supposed to be NETTING these amounts? (For example, today I've eaten 1700 calories. I'm done eating for the day. In a few hours I'm going to go bike ride and burn 500-600 calories...at the end of my bike ride, do I just log the exercise and call it a day? Or and I supposed to eat more?)
    .

    Eat 1729 rain, sleet or shine and only eat more if you burn more than 400 cals, then you eat the excess:-)


    SWEET, that's SO less complicated than I was making it!
  • curiousheathy
    curiousheathy Posts: 108
    If I have this right, this is what my calorie intake should be?

    I'm 26, 5feet tall, and 116 pounds.

    BMR = 1313
    TDEE = 2035
    TDEE (-15%) = 1729

    For my calorie intake...

    Non-workout days: Average 1600-1700 cals
    Lifting Days: Average 1800-1900 cals
    Cardio Days: Try to net 1600-1700 cals, but AT LEAST 1300

    Sound about right????

    Okay, day one and I've already confused myself.....

    Am I supposed to be NETTING these amounts? (For example, today I've eaten 1700 calories. I'm done eating for the day. In a few hours I'm going to go bike ride and burn 500-600 calories...at the end of my bike ride, do I just log the exercise and call it a day? Or and I supposed to eat more?)
    .

    Eat 1729 rain, sleet or shine and only eat more if you burn more than 400 cals, then you eat the excess:-)


    SWEET, that's SO less complicated than I was making it!

    I also was confused until you cleared things up! So unless we exercise so that our burned calories is equal to or more than our TDEE cut - BMR, we just eat our cut! Makes sense! Thank you!!!!
  • mgaither
    mgaither Posts: 115
    I used this calculator http://bwsimulator.niddk.nih.gov/ and compared it to Scooby's...GOOD NEWS, got nearly the same numbers for BMR, etc.
    This makes me feel better that I'm in the right calorie range!
  • ANewLucia
    ANewLucia Posts: 2,081 Member
    Hi Lucia, I have a question :) You said a few posts back to be consistent and eat the cut amount for 6 weeks, every day. Which I am more than happy doing, by the way. I find that I am quite obsessive about hitting my target!

    Once the 6 weeks are over is it ok then to eat maybe 100 - 200 less for a day or 2 and roll it over to a day you know you'll be eating more, say a party or whatever?

    Thanks and loving all the advice you give.

    :smile: your gonna love this one...nope eat your cut and enjoy your party. When I was cutting I actually spiked twice a week on purpose. No more going down in cals, you are already at cut. Your body will aprreciate the spike.
  • lee155
    lee155 Posts: 120
    I have a question because I'm still not getting it. I work at home online job/ babysitting(once in awhile), but I workout 3-5 times a week for 60-120 mins a day. Does that count as lightly active or secondary (desk job little or no exercise?

    Please look at my diary to see if I'm doing this correctly. I love eating more, I have more fuel, I don't feel weak and lazy anymore. I don't ever want to go back to 1200 calories. I have 6 more pounds to lose until I hit my goal weight.

    21, 5'6, 136lb
    BRM - 1458
  • angelina2585
    angelina2585 Posts: 273 Member
    Hi Lucia, I have a question :) You said a few posts back to be consistent and eat the cut amount for 6 weeks, every day. Which I am more than happy doing, by the way. I find that I am quite obsessive about hitting my target!

    Once the 6 weeks are over is it ok then to eat maybe 100 - 200 less for a day or 2 and roll it over to a day you know you'll be eating more, say a party or whatever?

    Thanks and loving all the advice you give.

    :smile: your gonna love this one...nope eat your cut and enjoy your party. When I was cutting I actually spiked twice a week on purpose. No more going down in cals, you are already at cut. Your body will aprreciate the spike.

    Thanks :) You are GREAT :flowerforyou:
  • KarinFit4Life
    KarinFit4Life Posts: 424 Member
    Definitely not light! Moderate rather...although up to 120 min a day...phew...thats actually too much.
    Did you use the Scooby calculator? Its on the stickys on the Discussion board, go check it out, will tell you exactly. :)
  • kay_bear52
    kay_bear52 Posts: 71 Member
    giving it a go beginning today. I have to admit I am pretty scared about gaining but I am going to try this
  • ANewLucia
    ANewLucia Posts: 2,081 Member
    I have a question because I'm still not getting it. I work at home online job/ babysitting(once in awhile), but I workout 3-5 times a week for 60-120 mins a day. Does that count as lightly active or secondary (desk job little or no exercise?

    Please look at my diary to see if I'm doing this correctly. I love eating more, I have more fuel, I don't feel weak and lazy anymore. I don't ever want to go back to 1200 calories. I have 6 more pounds to lose until I hit my goal weight.

    21, 5'6, 136lb
    BRM - 1458

    Glad you watched the video...you are no less than moderate and depending on how intense your workouts are you could be the next level up.
  • lee155
    lee155 Posts: 120
    I have a question because I'm still not getting it. I work at home online job/ babysitting(once in awhile), but I workout 3-5 times a week for 60-120 mins a day. Does that count as lightly active or secondary (desk job little or no exercise?

    Please look at my diary to see if I'm doing this correctly. I love eating more, I have more fuel, I don't feel weak and lazy anymore. I don't ever want to go back to 1200 calories. I have 6 more pounds to lose until I hit my goal weight.

    21, 5'6, 136lb
    BRM - 1458

    Glad you watched the video...you are no less than moderate and depending on how intense your workouts are you could be the next level up.

    You are awesome :) thanks again. Now I know why I'm soooo hungry and dizzy all the time. I'm still not eating enough .
  • QOTC
    QOTC Posts: 20
    Talking about making something clear as mud, super duper crystal clear! Thank you so much! =) Off to see where I can find some additional calories! ;) Healthful ones, of course!
  • MargoPrior
    MargoPrior Posts: 25 Member
    Hello and I want to thank you for doing all of this great work and sharing with us all. I believe I am going to be putting myself in that 'confused' group too, but only for a short bit I hope. I am wanting to see if I understand things right so I have it ok for both myself and my daughter.

    For me I have:
    BMR=1632
    TDEE=2244
    TDEE -20% = 1795
    (I chose to do the 20 percent since we both have quite a bit to lose, I hope that is ok?)

    Daughter:
    BMR=2078
    TDEE=2858
    TDEE -20%=2286

    So We would set our calorie Goals for:
    Me: 1795 on workout days
    Daughter: 2286 on workout days
    and we would Eat that many food calories? Do we consider the net at all or disregard it?

    Also What about on non workout days if we have any?
    would it be like for
    Me: 1632
    Daughter: 2078?
    or do we eat the amounts I first listed of 1795 and 2286 no matter what each and every day whether we work out or not?

    Thanks so much for your time, help and patience!! :-)
  • rotnkat
    rotnkat Posts: 393 Member
    Hello and I want to thank you for doing all of this great work and sharing with us all. I believe I am going to be putting myself in that 'confused' group too, but only for a short bit I hope. I am wanting to see if I understand things right so I have it ok for both myself and my daughter.

    For me I have:
    BMR=1632
    TDEE=2244
    TDEE -20% = 1795
    (I chose to do the 20 percent since we both have quite a bit to lose, I hope that is ok?)

    Daughter:
    BMR=2078
    TDEE=2858
    TDEE -20%=2286

    So We would set our calorie Goals for:
    Me: 1795 on workout days
    Daughter: 2286 on workout days
    and we would Eat that many food calories? Do we consider the net at all or disregard it?

    Also What about on non workout days if we have any?
    would it be like for
    Me: 1632
    Daughter: 2078?
    or do we eat the amounts I first listed of 1795 and 2286 no matter what each and every day whether we work out or not?

    Thanks so much for your time, help and patience!! :-)

    If you figured out your activity level correctly then you eat the same calories every day because exercise calories are already figured into the cut calories #'s. But if you have a strenuous workout that takes you below your BMR then you will have to eat extra calories to net your BMR.


    For example your calories for the day are 1795 and your workout was 500 calories that would take you below your BMR of 1632, so you would need to eat a extra 337 to net your BMR. 1795-500=1295,1632(BMR) - 1295= 337 So you have to 1795+ 337 = 2132 for that day. Make sense?
  • Arwhite1865
    Arwhite1865 Posts: 65 Member
    I feel like I've just discovered why I've been bouncing up and down within the same three-pound range (214-216 lbs) and haven't lost any weight in the past three weeks. I've been eating around 1640/day, but based on calculations I've just done by following directions in this thread, I should be eating at least 2,341. Scary to think about eating this much on purpose, but this makes a ton of sense. Thanks so much!
  • applejack2
    applejack2 Posts: 10 Member
    Please help. 5' , 168, scooby bmr 1361 ,TDEE 1872= daily calories 1498 lightly active 64 year old. I've been on MFP 25 days using their 1200 calories and lost 7 lbs. I am serious about being healthy and want to use the correct calculations. Thanks for your help.
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    I've been going at this for two weeks and seen this group recommended and I see why. The information here is fantastic!! I've not seen any changes yet but I'm former low-carber and 1200cal gal, so I'm expecting this to take a bit of time!
    If someone could make sure I'm understanding right I'd appreciate it!

    BMR=1663
    TDEE=2578
    TDEE (-20%)=2063

    I should be eating that 2063 every day no matter what, correct? Doesn't matter if it's a rest day or anything like that?

    I understand I don't want to eat *below* my BMR...so right now I eat pretty much right around 2000, give or take some, and my daily burn is anywhere from 350-450 (I'm doing Ripped in 30). Some days I throw in a 20 minute bike ride or some pilates/yoga; if my burn puts me below my BMR do I need to eat some more? I've got the activity level set at moderate because I rarely exceed 5 hours a week, so I just want to make sure I'm on track.
  • ANewLucia
    ANewLucia Posts: 2,081 Member
    Please help. 5' , 168, scooby bmr 1361 ,TDEE 1872= daily calories 1498 lightly active 64 year old. I've been on MFP 25 days using their 1200 calories and lost 7 lbs. I am serious about being healthy and want to use the correct calculations. Thanks for your help.

    What cut val did you use? You should use 15% you should be cloer to 1600.
  • ANewLucia
    ANewLucia Posts: 2,081 Member
    I've been going at this for two weeks and seen this group recommended and I see why. The information here is fantastic!! I've not seen any changes yet but I'm former low-carber and 1200cal gal, so I'm expecting this to take a bit of time!
    If someone could make sure I'm understanding right I'd appreciate it!

    BMR=1663
    TDEE=2578
    TDEE (-20%)=2063

    I should be eating that 2063 every day no matter what, correct? Doesn't matter if it's a rest day or anything like that?

    I understand I don't want to eat *below* my BMR...so right now I eat pretty much right around 2000, give or take some, and my daily burn is anywhere from 350-450 (I'm doing Ripped in 30). Some days I throw in a 20 minute bike ride or some pilates/yoga; if my burn puts me below my BMR do I need to eat some more? I've got the activity level set at moderate because I rarely exceed 5 hours a week, so I just want to make sure I'm on track.

    You got it!
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