CUT Progress After RESET-Tell us your ups/downs!
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Hello everyone! I am feeling frustrated too. But I've been sabotaging myself. I realized this weekend that when I figured out my calorie allotment (both TDEE and Cut) that I was using the activity multiplier for the amount of exercise I get a week AND then I was also eating back my exercise calories each day (uggghhh**face palm***:grumble: :grumble: :grumble: ). I am also going to adjust when I'm planning on my rest week. I am so freaking hungry the week before my cycle, so I decided that that is when I will just eat my TDEE. Then I will go back to cut. Well here's to learning and moving forward. :drinker: Hope you all have wonderful progress this week!:flowerforyou:0
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Hello everyone! I am feeling frustrated too. But I've been sabotaging myself. I realized this weekend that when I figured out my calorie allotment (both TDEE and Cut) that I was using the activity multiplier for the amount of exercise I get a week AND then I was also eating back my exercise calories each day (uggghhh**face palm***:grumble: :grumble: :grumble: ). I am also going to adjust when I'm planning on my rest week. I am so freaking hungry the week before my cycle, so I decided that that is when I will just eat my TDEE. Then I will go back to cut. Well here's to learning and moving forward. :drinker: Hope you all have wonderful progress this week!:flowerforyou:
That is a great idea! I get the same way during PMS. I had learned at one time that you actually burn about 300 more calories a day during PMS which has a part in making you more hungry, so if that is true, upping during that time will probably be helpful and still keep you at a cut. If it's not true, then worse case scenario it is your TDEE week like you said. I may do this too if next month is anything like this last one.0 -
@HealthyEllie...So glad to see not only didi you enjoy your run, but you saw some positive changes! That can help so much!
@Rach...glad to have another on the cut side :flowerforyou: :drinker:
@Raynn...Great job on your 10k! Always nice to come in under your goal!
@Angel, sorry to hear you had a mix up there, but glad you got it figured out. I am doing the same thing with my rest/TDEE week. I thought this week was suppose to be my TDEE week but I was a week ahead :grumble: oh well, I can wait one more. For some reason I have been hungrier the week after TOM so I planned it for after so hopefully that will help me stay on track better.
A few days ago I was ready to throw in the work out towel. I feel a little better now, but still wishing this fat would start melting off. I tried to put on some shorts over the weekend and it was a no go so I really don't want to even think about putting on jeans...I wish I knew what the right answer was to get this fat off me. Its been 3 years trying to lose this 20-some pounds (I am using "pounds" loosely, I just want the fat gone I don't care what I actually weigh and my goal is to lose the least amt of scale weight) and I am so fed up!
I completely believe in EM2WL, its just knowing what numbers to use is whats so confusing. Last week I lowered to a 15% cut but I am eating more in between 15-10%. I cook 3 times a day plus snacks so I taste test and I try to add quick cals for my day for that but then I am so hungry I eat over anyway. This way I feel I have more wiggle room for my screw ups. When I first started EM2WL I jumped in at 15% and it seemed to work for me then I learned about the reset and did that. Sometimes I wonder if I should've just stuck with 15% then if things weren't moving then do a week or so of TDEE. Oh well, I am here now so just trying to find the right balance to get things in motion!0 -
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TOM has hit, so the scale has risen again.. Bah!
Im hoping to get back to the gym tomorrow for the last of my three Stage 4 workouts, and then take my rest week. I will probably take my first diet break at the same time, which will coincide with our friends wedding next week, making it a bit easier on me:)
Im still a bit frustrated things arent moving fast.. in fact slower than a snail.. I knew this was a mental game, but I was not expecting it to be so hard at cut...0 -
Raynn - GREAT job on your run. That's awesome. I'm very proud of you!
TripleJ - I think that it's hard to get the right numbers. I mean, the online calculators are estimates. So I think it can take a bit to find the way to do cut. I have mine set at 10% so that if I don't make it all the way to that number I'm usually still in 15% deficit territory. But all this trial and error is hard!
I'm really struggling with energy right now. I'm going to be doing some labs. Thyroid for sure as I'm hypo and due for a new lab. But I think we're also checking vitamin D, B12, and iron levels. I've just been tired tired tired. I haven't made it out for morning runs. I just can't seem to get out of bed any earlier. I really don't want to go back to morning coffee as I've gone from having a pot of coffee to no coffee in the last year. It is nice to be able to function without needing several cups of coffee first. I'm hoping that the labs point us in the right direction. I can't can't can't return to hypo hell. That's the state I was in when I put on 40 pounds in 3 1/2 months last year. I can't go back to that. I'm scared of returning to that. That being said, my weight is not going up. It's been pretty stable this week. Since I'm struggling to get out the door I've been allowing myself to eat a bit less (accounting for light activity that I'm currently doing vs. moderate that I had been doing). If I can start getting out for my runs soon I'll definitely go back up.
Anyways, blah blah blah...that's me right now!
I know many of us are experiencing humps in the process, but we're all hanging in here too and I think that's important. I'm proud of all of us!0 -
Raynn-is it possible your numbers are wrong? What about dropping 150 cals off to see how that goes?0
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Raynn-is it possible your numbers are wrong? What about dropping 150 cals off to see how that goes?
Possible, although how things are showing on my fitbit this past week, it appears my TDEE is about where it should be. I am going to play out the rest of my week, and I am taking a rest week next week with a diet break. After that I will reevaluate with a possible 100-150 cal further cut0 -
BUT those are based on estimates...have your had your BMR tested? Could be off. Another thought is are you strict with weighing and measuring everything. I know when I start to eyeball things I end up not losing because eyeballing a couple different things ends with me being off by a few hundred cals. Just some ideas...0
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Lol, I wouldnt even know the first place to go to, to get my BMR tested..
But measuring is something to work on for sure.. Im pretty sure my estimates are good, but you are right, I should go back and remeasure everything and tighten up on that again0 -
to everyone struggling
I am having some "moments" of second guessing myself too, girls: not about what's going on NOW, because Cut is going great, but about everything I've done so far.
My BRAIN KNOWS that I am doing the right thing for my body and that if I want to STOP beating myself up about my weight issues, I have to go through this.
BUT, there's this OTHER GIRL inside me that's saying "Are you freakin' nuts? You DELIBERATELY gained 24 pounds?? And you seriously thought you'd lose it in 10 minutes~ cause guess what, it's STILL here!!"
So THAT girl is the one who has been going shopping with me to "panic-buy" BIGGER CLOTHING for an upcoming trip. THAT girl is sitting on my shoulder as I have to, yet again, wander into the PLUS SIZE section of the store.
Not that I'm not happy with the selections I've made~ plus size clothes are not "your mother's" clothes anymore~ but still....
I have my moments.......0 -
totally understand Rosie. I second guess this decision on a regular basis. deep down I know its right, but on the surface somedays, It pains me to not have the scale go down.. I set out a goal back in Jan when I started running that by the time of my GFs wedding next week, I *should* have been down about 30 pounds... 9 months, 30 pounds.. it was a pretty low goal.. and here I am, a week from her wedding, and I have lost maybe 5 pounds, and that was right in the beginning. That makes me feel like a huge failure some days.
But of course I never counted on having to completely change my thinking. reset my metabolism and understand why my body wasnt letting go of anything.... Ive learned a lot over the past 6 months or so, but it still doesnt help negate the fact that I am still not smaller.. maybe a bit smarter, but not smaller:)..
I try really hard to silence the voices I have in my head that are laughing at me saying "Idiot... did you really think eating double the amount of food you were given on WW is really going to help you lose weight?" I feel the (in my head) pity glances my friends give me when they see how frustrated I am at nothing changing.
This week probably isnt a good week for me since its TOM and the scale of course doesnt look good, so already I feel like nothing is going right, so the self doubt and pity party always seems to hit at this time.. But its like the never ending cycle, right?.. things change a little that we feel good about this, and then something out of our control hits us and we "punish" ourselves in thinking we are doing it wrong, all over again.
Maybe we all need to throw the scale away for a month..
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I got my BMR tested at my naturopaths office, she has a machine that she hooks you up to and then it spits out a reading. I just googled to find local places that offer this service.0
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@ Rosie and Raynn.....
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
yup, that's me today. TOM needs to be shot, the scale needs to be set under a post pounder for demolition, and water retention can just go screw itself.
That's all I have to say today.0 -
((hugs)) to all of you going through TOM. Rosie - I understand what you're saying about having two minds about this. It is such a struggle. I think it's harder at cut than it was at reset in some respects. Once I started cut I got into that "losing weight" frame of mind again and it is tempting to want to slash calories when things aren't going right.
I have an order called into the lab to get bloodwork done, but realistically I don't think I'll be able to get it done until Saturday, so it'll be next week before I know if there's any weirdness going on with my body or if it's just me being lazy.0 -
@ Rosie and Raynn..... :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
yup, that's me today. TOM needs to be shot, the scale needs to be set under a post pounder for demolition, and water retention can just go screw itself.
That's all I have to say today.
Fully agree.. I hate TOM0 -
Fully agree.. I hate TOM
As someone who stopped having a period for over a year because (apparently) I wasn't eating enough, I have to say I'm actually happy to see mine back since I started EM2WL. I'm sure I'll get over being excited to get it soon enough
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This is a little hilarious! How are we all synced up?!
I also would like TOM to get the hell away from me. This ain't even the worst of the bloat yet. Kill me.0 -
I am almost a week ahead of all of you, but I feel your pain, I was there last week and I had a terrible, terrible week. Just go with it and do what you can. Oh, and stay off the stupid scale.
I am like most of you in that I second guess myself all. the. time. I know in my heart I am doing the right thing, but I still have that little voice in my head telling me to leave some more calories on the table, or add in another cardio session to burn some more calories. I know I can't sustain that way of living though. This, what I am doing now, I can sustain. And be happy. So I just continue to trust in the process like all of you and keep plugging away.
I really am not sure how I continue to feel so positive about all of this when I have gained so much, but I just know there are changes happening that I may not see on the scale or even in the mirror or with a tape measure.
So on a good note, the scale has come down about 5 pounds for me this week, mostly water due to TOM leaving and coming off of a terrible week of eating last week, but hey, the scale is moving down, I will take it and run with it. Only about 15-20 more to go to get back to where I started, rofl (have to laugh or else I will cry), hehe. Although, I was thinking about this today and I really think about 10 more will have me "feeling" and possibly "looking" the same as I did 20 ago. I think that is a good sign, and I have to just take that scale with a grain of salt now that my focus is the lifting and less heavy cardio.
Oh, and 6th day of really good logging for me today. Trying hard to hit my macros (or come close) and stick to my 15% cut.
So all is good on my end.
Sorry so many of you are feeling miserable. Try to do something good for you today. Hugs to you all.0 -
Hey all!! I'm in the middle of my 2nd week of cut. I lost 3 lbs the day after I cut and the scale has been bouncing between 2 lbs since then. I feel lighter, which is great. Lost some of my stomach, which makes me REALLY happy. Overall pretty good. Trying not to expect too much since i'm only on my 2nd week. Patience is a virtue. But like others, yes the slashing calories has entered my mind many times. But not an option here. Just gonna keep doin what i'm doin. :happy:0
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@ Rosie and Raynn..... :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
yup, that's me today. TOM needs to be shot, the scale needs to be set under a post pounder for demolition, and water retention can just go screw itself.
That's all I have to say today.
Fully agree.. I hate TOM thanks to all of you for the kind words
I actually feel guilty writing about it here and being a downer, but it seems that ALL of us needed to get it out this week:blushing:
For the record, TOM and I have been "over" for about 10 years now and when I read your posts I say "TOM, COME BACK!! I promise, I'll never say a bad word about you again!!":laugh: :laugh:
So, last night I was visiting family and was actually quite pleased with how I looked, which totally pissed off THAT girl (you know, the one in my head that gets me down) and made her go crying home to her mommy!!:bigsmile:
So THERE, you mean girl!:smokin: .0 -
@ Rosie and Raynn..... :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
yup, that's me today. TOM needs to be shot, the scale needs to be set under a post pounder for demolition, and water retention can just go screw itself.
That's all I have to say today.
Fully agree.. I hate TOM thanks to all of you for the kind words
I actually feel guilty writing about it here and being a downer, but it seems that ALL of us needed to get it out this week:blushing:
For the record, TOM and I have been "over" for about 10 years now and when I read your posts I say "TOM, COME BACK!! I promise, I'll never say a bad word about you again!!":laugh: :laugh:
So, last night I was visiting family and was actually quite pleased with how I looked, which totally pissed off THAT girl (you know, the one in my head that gets me down) and made her go crying home to her mommy!!:bigsmile:
So THERE, you mean girl!:smokin: .
good job Rosie:) Sometimes it feels even better to silence THAT girl
Im working on silencing her myself.. Right now she is reminding me that I have a bridesmaid dress to fit in next week and I will probably look like a fat cow.. Working hard to stick my tongue out at her..0 -
hey ladies...checking in! Some of you saw my post on the boards saying "i'm on the verge" a few days ago...I was having a terrible day and was totally on the verge of saying screw it and slashing cals. OBVIOUSLY I'm not going to do that....just wanted to give you all a head's up....here's my post from today in that thread....
You guys are seriously all so great! Thanks for the encouragement, the tips and then relating to me! It seriously helps! I think what I've decided to do is change my activity level to moderate 3-5hrs per wk (on scooby) instead of the level of 5-6hrs strenuous that I originally had it at and then do a 15% cut which for me is 1950cals per day. I work out 5-6 days a week for usually about 50 minutes total. I do a combination of heavy lifting and then short cardio sessions (20 minutes on either the bike eliptical or treadmil). I have been doing about 1900ish since Monday (so really only a few days) but I already feel better and the scale this morning showed a .2 pound loss. I know that's really nothing but honestly that's THE first time it's even THOUGHT about going down since I started my reset and then cut process over 3 months ago. Maybe 1950 (about 15% cut) is my sweet spot? We'll see in another few weeks!
I will never...ever. EVER go below 1800-1900 (and even THAT is pushing it) again!!! I know far too well the effects of not eating enough...been there.done.that.not going back! I am really only maybe 10 pounds from my goal weight an honestly don't care much about scale weight anyway so I just need to find that sweet spot were the fat starts to melt and I can see more tone/muscle/definition and less fat. I will NEVER stop lifting and I will definitely never starve myself again! I have one pair of size 6 jeans in my closet that I use more as a gauge than anything else. I'm terrible at measuring bc I can never seem to get it in the right spot every time and I HATE the scale so those jeans are my "goal". I know I'll get there....someday. Thanks everyone!
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Hi everyone! Checking in here....weighed myself this morning and the scale says I've DROPPED 1.4 POUNDS! I couldn't believe it. I am in week 5 of my cut and have weighed 157 on the dot for the entire 5 weeks of cut, nothing has budged even a tiny bit (I weighed about 153 before my 8wk reset) and today the scale said 155.6!!! hallelujiah! TOM is coming in a few days too so I truly believe that this is real weight loss!! I was doing a 10% cut but really felt like maybe I was still eating too much or that maybe I had my activity level wrong so this week I worked with my numbers a bit and went to a 15% cut and like magic......I'm down 1.4 pounds! And that's with eating 1950cals per day all week (as opposed to 2150 for the first 4 weeks of my cut). Let's hope things keep progressing! I'm honestly not too worried about scale weight, I'd like to weigh MORE so I can eat MORE in the long run! I'm most excited that my clothes are starting to feel loose again and I "feel" slimmer, trimmer and just all around "smaller" this week than I did last week! Happy Friday everyone! 0
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that is great news to finally see a drop! awesome on the loose clothes too, feels so good when things start moving in the right direction after waiting so long. Good work!! ...and Happy Friday!!0
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@seobstar, that is awesome! Glad to hear you found a sweet spot. I bet you may see more after TOM too.
I have had one whole good week eating at cut and coming pretty close to my macros, still a little low on the protein side, but doing what I feel comfortable with. My goal now is to make it through this weekend without blowing my cut. I am going to take a two day rest from weights, but hopefully get in maybe a HIIT session this weekend. I think I am falling into a M-W-F lift routine.
After dropping a few pounds right after TOM, my weight is hovering again, so I will see how it goes the next couple weeks. I had originally lowered my calories/cut to reflect between lightly active and moderately active (split the difference), but now it seems like I am doing a little more so I may have to bump back up to moderate-I'll see what this week looks like once the kids are back in school. Not a lot of calorie difference, around a hundred, but as we all know, sometimes that is the difference between holding on and letting go.
Oh, and I also switched from doing two upper and one lower body workout per week to doing three full body workouts and I like it much better. I don't seem to get as sore as I did before. I think it still ends up being the same amount of exercise per body part. Anyone have opinions about that? Just curious.
Hope all is well with my fellow cutters and hope everyone has a great holiday weekend and find some time to relax a little.0 -
I soooooooooooo hate water retention.... I love how you can instantly bounce up 2+ pounds when the retention hits, but that coming off, it goes in .2 increments... Grrrrrr
Congrats on finally seeing a loss seobstar!!
TOM is starting to leave so Im hoping in the next day or two the retention will leave in more than .2 increments. I have two more workouts in stage 4 and then Im on a bit of a rest break for my friend's wedding next week.
Ive completed a week using my fitbit, and I wish I could say I have a better idea of where I am, but I cant yet.. the stupid thing has a bug in it, with the sync to MFP and its giving out double activity readings.. so I have a few days where it has me burning double what I actually did.
However even with that, the average for the week has my TDEE around 2700, which is about 100 less than the scooby site. Im not overly concerned since its still giving me a 300 cal deficit for my cut.. Ill wait and give it another week with fitbit and see what next weeks cals average out at and then see what are my options. Not too concerned as 100 cals isnt a huge deal..
I was debating taking my measurements today, but Im not sure it would be worth it since im still bloated. might wait until im on my rest break next week and see what it shows.0 -
Still have lost nothing. My ticker should be updated, just can`t bring myself to do it. 5 months on MFP and nothing. 3 months after reset and nothing. 4 months of strength training and no weight lost.
Now for the good news. I did throw out my scale. Waited two weeks to weight and have gained 2 kg in the two weeks. How? I quit drinking? _?? My measurements are down if only infintesimally, like .2 cm some places. and I really don`t care what the scale says. How can I care, it never says what I want it to. Will be on a weekly weigh in schedule from now. And that number has no power over me. Ok just a little, fleetingly.
I gained definition in my chest, good. Stomach is still just as fat and jiggly as ever. Thighs still rub, it might be my imagination but they rub a little tiny bit less than before.
I`m going to trust my good feelings because it has been a rough five months.
Have a good body builder diet going on, lots of energy, and a little less reaction to stress than before. I am intuitive eating now for two weeks. I was so sick of counting calories and not losing anything.
All told feel pretty good, don`t look too much better but oh well. Too bad my goal was to look better. I guess I`ll have to change my goal to living better.
Fugettaboutit.0 -
Still have lost nothing. My ticker should be updated, just can`t bring myself to do it. 5 months on MFP and nothing. 3 months after reset and nothing. 4 months of strength training and no weight lost.
Now for the good news. I did throw out my scale. Waited two weeks to weight and have gained 2 kg in the two weeks. How? I quit drinking? _?? My measurements are down if only infintesimally, like .2 cm some places. and I really don`t care what the scale says. How can I care, it never says what I want it to. Will be on a weekly weigh in schedule from now. And that number has no power over me. Ok just a little, fleetingly.
I gained definition in my chest, good. Stomach is still just as fat and jiggly as ever. Thighs still rub, it might be my imagination but they rub a little tiny bit less than before.
I`m going to trust my good feelings because it has been a rough five months.
Have a good body builder diet going on, lots of energy, and a little less reaction to stress than before. I am intuitive eating now for two weeks. I was so sick of counting calories and not losing anything.
All told feel pretty good, don`t look too much better but oh well. Too bad my goal was to look better. I guess I`ll have to change my goal to living better.
Fugettaboutit.
This was so uplifting to read. I love your mentality. I know it's hard when you seem to be doing everything right but yet your body just will not respond the way you expect it to. I am going through much the same sort of thing. My body is freaking out and I've been gaining on what SHOULD be a weight loss amount. I can't make sense of it and stress only magnifies the negative hormonal state that contributes to weight gain. ((Sigh)) I guess we change our goals, be patient, or some combination of the two. Best of luck to you.0 -
Hi everyone! Checking in here....weighed myself this morning and the scale says I've DROPPED 1.4 POUNDS! I couldn't believe it. I am in week 5 of my cut and have weighed 157 on the dot for the entire 5 weeks of cut, nothing has budged even a tiny bit (I weighed about 153 before my 8wk reset) and today the scale said 155.6!!! hallelujiah! TOM is coming in a few days too so I truly believe that this is real weight loss!! I was doing a 10% cut but really felt like maybe I was still eating too much or that maybe I had my activity level wrong so this week I worked with my numbers a bit and went to a 15% cut and like magic......I'm down 1.4 pounds! And that's with eating 1950cals per day all week (as opposed to 2150 for the first 4 weeks of my cut). Let's hope things keep progressing! I'm honestly not too worried about scale weight, I'd like to weigh MORE so I can eat MORE in the long run! I'm most excited that my clothes are starting to feel loose again and I "feel" slimmer, trimmer and just all around "smaller" this week than I did last week! Happy Friday everyone! :drinker: :drinker: to YOU and JESS:drinker: :drinker:
OK~ 2 :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: posts to kick off the weekend~ let's keep this thing rollin' girls!!:flowerforyou:
:bigsmile: I ROCKED my NROL4W workout today which included bulgarian squats and lunges~ I am freakin' FINALLY getting the form down!!:bigsmile:
OK~ who else????0
