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  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
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    Arroganceinstep - Thanks for the feed back. I have watched the squat video several times now and have noticed the bar path is wobbly at the bottom. I will try to remain more tight throughout and remember to stay on my heels to maintain the bar path.

    On the dead lift, again I will be trying to stay more tight. I'm also trying to get more sleep to try and fight off the exhaustion during my lifting sessions.

    You will likely get to a point where you can't squat and pull on the same day. This is normal. Stick with what you're doing as long as you can though, especially if you like the format.

    Aye, I ended up getting off of Stronglifts for that very reason. It's a good program but it doesn't last forever. Went to Madcow which is very similar but has only light squats on deadlift day and that works much better. The squats are more like an assistance exercise on that day. Or you can graduate to 5/3/1 where each day is dedicated to one lift.

    I will keep this in mind. Today was crap, failing squats for the first time, on the first set at that (and every set there after). Then only squeaking out one DL at work weight. lol. However I did power through my OHP... at my first deload weight lol.

    It's definitely something to think about, but I hesitated to even mention that point because I can't stress enough how much consistency trumps all when it comes to lifting.

    It's possible you're going through a rough patch with weights, that'll happen no matter what program you're on. Don't be too quick to jump ship on what you're doing. If after a month or so you're still having trouble, THEN consider changing things up.

    I'm not saying you're like this, but I've seen too many situations where lifters will jump from program to program to program trying to find the perfect routine...and before they know it a few years have passed and they haven't made much progress at all.


    ^ totally agree with this post.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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    here's my first ever form check video. i'm a wimpy squatter though i've been trying for a year and a half. i can do 60lbs but at 65 or more i end up with a stiff and sore back for days.

    please help, what am i doing wrong?

    also, sorry for the awkward angle. i've got the phone wedged between two 45 lb plates on the leg press next to the cage.

    http://youtu.be/ypJ29IGp0v0

    I'd try to get a little lower.

    It looks like you rock forward a bit coming out of the hole, but hard to say for sure at the angle.

    Also it looks like your left foot might be further forward than your right.

    If you can get a better angle (both side and back or front) it would help, maybe ask someone at the gym to film for you?
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
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    here's my first ever form check video. i'm a wimpy squatter though i've been trying for a year and a half. i can do 60lbs but at 65 or more i end up with a stiff and sore back for days.

    please help, what am i doing wrong?

    also, sorry for the awkward angle. i've got the phone wedged between two 45 lb plates on the leg press next to the cage.

    http://youtu.be/ypJ29IGp0v0

    Depth is a wee bit shy. you want the crease of your hip to get just below the plane of your knee. Focus on pushing your knees outward.
    Back arch looks good.
    To get a more neutral neck position you might consider looking at a spot on the floor a few feet ahead of you. This is not a big deal.
    It's hard to tell from the angle, but feet look kind of far apart - which is fine - but you might experiment with different widths to see if it might be more comfortable.
    If you wear a shoe with a small solid heal, or put something like a 10# under your heel it might help you with depth.
  • wendyapple
    wendyapple Posts: 323 Member
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    here's my first ever form check video. i'm a wimpy squatter though i've been trying for a year and a half. i can do 60lbs but at 65 or more i end up with a stiff and sore back for days.

    please help, what am i doing wrong?

    also, sorry for the awkward angle. i've got the phone wedged between two 45 lb plates on the leg press next to the cage.

    http://youtu.be/ypJ29IGp0v0

    I'd try to get a little lower.

    It looks like you rock forward a bit coming out of the hole, but hard to say for sure at the angle.

    Also it looks like your left foot might be further forward than your right.

    If you can get a better angle (both side and back or front) it would help, maybe ask someone at the gym to film for you?

    it's very possible that my left foot is further forward. my left hip is higher which makes my alignment a little wacky. i'll try to make sure my feet are even. i'm going to re-watch some of the rippetoe form videos and shoot again soon. thanks for your insight :)
  • wendyapple
    wendyapple Posts: 323 Member
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    here's my first ever form check video. i'm a wimpy squatter though i've been trying for a year and a half. i can do 60lbs but at 65 or more i end up with a stiff and sore back for days.

    please help, what am i doing wrong?

    also, sorry for the awkward angle. i've got the phone wedged between two 45 lb plates on the leg press next to the cage.

    http://youtu.be/ypJ29IGp0v0

    Depth is a wee bit shy. you want the crease of your hip to get just below the plane of your knee. Focus on pushing your knees outward.
    Back arch looks good.
    To get a more neutral neck position you might consider looking at a spot on the floor a few feet ahead of you. This is not a big deal.
    It's hard to tell from the angle, but feet look kind of far apart - which is fine - but you might experiment with different widths to see if it might be more comfortable.
    If you wear a shoe with a small solid heal, or put something like a 10# under your heel it might help you with depth.

    i got other feedback on depth too, so i'm going to work on that. i tried the 10lb plates today without weight and i can see how they'd help with getting the hips lower. will spend some time on form and re-shoot soon. thank you!
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
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    Pendlay rows. New lift for me, here is 185 for a few. Please comment if you are familiar with this type of row:

    http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2hhhpu8&s=5
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
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    Here's a great vid of Pendlay himself coaching the Pendlay row, in case you haven't seen it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRrIsoDpKg

    Hard to tell in your video, but is the bar making contact with your body at the top? It should be.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
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    Yep, bar contacts just below the chest.

    I'll check out the vid. I watched a pendlay vid at the gym on my phone before doing them, I'll see if this is the same one.

    THanks!
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
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    Pendlay rows. New lift for me, here is 185 for a few. Please comment if you are familiar with this type of row:

    http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2hhhpu8&s=5

    Basically perfect, IMO.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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    Pendlay rows. New lift for me, here is 185 for a few. Please comment if you are familiar with this type of row:

    http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2hhhpu8&s=5

    Basically perfect, IMO.

    Nothing really wrong with your form, but I think pendlays should be done with lighter weight and more of a squeeze at the top. Depends on what you're trying to do though. i don't like them as a power movement though.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
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    I think this is the 1st time I've watched myself dead. It's at a relatively light lift. 275lbs Off hand, it's okay but I can tell my butt isn't down enough during the pull. Also the guy that was taking the video said I should lock out more with the hips. I also agree. But I usually don't have a problem locking. It's getting it off the floor. I was also trying to keep my back straight during the video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm3zLMe960I&feature=youtu.be

    All comments are welcome.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
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    I think this is the 1st time I've watched myself dead. It's at a relatively light lift. 275lbs Off hand, it's okay but I can tell my butt isn't down enough during the pull. Also the guy that was taking the video said I should lock out more with the hips. I also agree. But I usually don't have a problem locking. It's getting it off the floor. I was also trying to keep my back straight during the video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm3zLMe960I&feature=youtu.be

    All comments are welcome.

    The pull doesn't look too bad honestly, although I can't tell how close the barbell goes to your shins/legs. You do look like you're hyperextending the lower back at the end of the pull. I don't think you need to forcefully contract that far.

    Your descent rounds the knees quite a bit and this is usually caused by bending the knees early on the descent rather than shooting your hips back. I'd start the descent by shooting the hips back -- the knees bend when the bar clears them. If you bend your knees too soon on the descent, which you are doing, the knees get in the way of the barbell and then you have to move the barbell around the knees.

    You should post a heavier pull just in case this is too light for things to pop up.

    Regarding your hip position, if the barbell is over the midfoot at the start of the pull, and under the scapula, and your shins are in contact with the bar, then IMO your hips default to the correct position based on your levers. I don't think you should be artificially trying to manipulate that hip position if those criteria are being met.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
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    Thanks. I never really pay too much attention to how I lower the bar. Other than just trying to keep tight with a good back angle. (ie.. no rounded back)

    For the record, I try to lightly scrape my shins. Whether I actually do this is another story.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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    Thanks. I never really pay too much attention to how I lower the bar. Other than just trying to keep tight with a good back angle. (ie.. no rounded back)

    For the record, I try to lightly scrape my shins. Whether I actually do this is another story.

    On your initial pull you popped your heels off the ground after setting them, this caused the momentum of the bar to stall. I'd suggest trying to get that without the heel stutter.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
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    Thanks. I never really pay too much attention to how I lower the bar. Other than just trying to keep tight with a good back angle. (ie.. no rounded back)

    For the record, I try to lightly scrape my shins. Whether I actually do this is another story.

    On your initial pull you popped your heels off the ground after setting them, this caused the momentum of the bar to stall. I'd suggest trying to get that without the heel stutter.

    Nice catch. I'll review the video. I'll try to think about driving the bar back more so I'm pushing though the heels, that should help with my hip drive when it gets over my knees
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,835 Member
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    why do you have a bottoms up setup rather than top down approach?

    I MUCH prefer to take set my feet in place, then grab the bar Butt is still high and legs straightish, then create tension and bring your butt down and chest up. You will feel it in your hammies especially when you in a tight position, then pull.

    Those ones didn't look too bad but it is getting close to a RDL because of the lack of knee bending and bringing butt back down.

    Also, reset between each lift. It will teach you to setup correctly and as the lift is a DEADlift as in pulling a dead weight, there should be no bouncing of reps. (unless you compete in strongman :tongue:)
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
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    I used to do it your way when I was competing. I know what you mean though. I used to do this exactly like you describe. I'll have to review and try this method again to see if I like it better.
  • Rays_Wife
    Rays_Wife Posts: 1,173 Member
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    For the past month I have been working on my squat form (it was really horrible, I had a bad time with leaning too far forward). I was just curious as to what others thought of my form now. I took videos of my first set and my last set.

    First set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Kxe6hVJYA

    Last set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPUwQCG9gp8

    Thanks for any feedback! wink 60 pounds isn't hard for me, but I wanted to get opinions before I moved on adding more weight to the bar.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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    For the past month I have been working on my squat form (it was really horrible, I had a bad time with leaning too far forward). I was just curious as to what others thought of my form now. I took videos of my first set and my last set.

    First set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Kxe6hVJYA

    Last set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPUwQCG9gp8

    Thanks for any feedback! wink 60 pounds isn't hard for me, but I wanted to get opinions before I moved on adding more weight to the bar.

    I would need to see it heavier and with a front or back view as well. Nothing glaringly wrong, though it was hard for me to tell if you hit depth.
  • Rays_Wife
    Rays_Wife Posts: 1,173 Member
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    For the past month I have been working on my squat form (it was really horrible, I had a bad time with leaning too far forward). I was just curious as to what others thought of my form now. I took videos of my first set and my last set.

    First set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Kxe6hVJYA

    Last set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPUwQCG9gp8

    Thanks for any feedback! wink 60 pounds isn't hard for me, but I wanted to get opinions before I moved on adding more weight to the bar.

    I would need to see it heavier and with a front or back view as well. Nothing glaringly wrong, though it was hard for me to tell if you hit depth.

    Okay I'll keep that in mind when posting videos in the future, thanks. Maybe I'll post again when the weight gets to over 100 pounds? And I do think I'm just hitting parallel. (i know its hard to tell in the video, though)