I have one, but it's too cold to wear it, lol. Can't really wear it over a sweater.

10 and 11 are fun together (or can we call them that now?).

I know! Aren't they 11 & 12 now? Don't they all need to be renumbered?

Husband ran out to see the 10pm show when I came back lol. It was packed, half the people were in costume... Awesome.

Ok I assume spoilers are safe now. There's something that doesn't make sense. In The End of Time, Tenant knew that the Time Lord were stuck in a time bubble.. He wasn't surprised when he saw Gallifrey come back (if I remember correctly?). How could he have known? And he's quite happy to send them back there too. Then suddenly John Hurt shows up and the Doctor remembers killing them all... then he saves them and wants to go home? Why now?

Can someone explain that to me? I'm very confused.

Husband ran out to see the 10pm show when I came back lol. It was packed, half the people were in costume... Awesome.

Ok I assume spoilers are safe now. There's something that doesn't make sense. In The End of Time, Tenant knew that the Time Lord were stuck in a time bubble.. He wasn't surprised when he saw Gallifrey come back (if I remember correctly?). How could he have known? And he's quite happy to send them back there too. Then suddenly John Hurt shows up and the Doctor remembers killing them all... then he saves them and wants to go home? Why now?

Can someone explain that to me? I'm very confused.

I was trying to remember how that went and it was bugging me, you recall it in better detail than I. The Undoing that happens in this one dismays me a bit. It's not like I want Gallifrey to burn or anything, but the darkness our recent doctors have stuffed down of blocked out has sort of defined them for me (and given them an edge I appreciated). Then again 11 said something about Hurt's doctor not being able to remember that he changed his decision later... ? But the cat's out of the bag now, for us at least. This makes me wonder more about how Capaldi is going to play it because I was banking on his masterful ability to convey that pain and internal conflict and complexity.

My gears are smaller so I'm still grinding on whether Hurt was turning into Eccleston or Capaldi at the end.

Ok on the Time Lords not burning and time bubble and stuff.

1- The Time Lords trying to come back didn't make sense to me at the time if they had burned.
2- The Doctor always says that Gallifrey and the Daleks were trapped in the time war in a time lock.
3- Also if everything burned, how did the Daleks get out at all, I mean just cause the crazy Dalek went into the time lock, if they all burned how did they get out exactly? (End of Days)

So no matter how you look at it, it never all really adds up to make sense. However, that is kind of the beauty of Science Fiction it doesn't really have to add up.

Please also remember that Tenant's Doctor had said to the Master, you don't know what they turned into or what they were going to do. But even early in the Doctor's history he fought often with the Time Lords and the things they wanted to do.

Why does he want to find them now? Well he is 1400 years old? He forgot how rotten they were, I mean as you get older and move further away from things the memory distorts it. In the past many times the Doctor didn't want to go anywhere near Gallifrey (as 3 he was exiled, he was framed for crimes he didn't commit as 4 and 5 too I think? as 10 he tried to keep them from destroying the earth), but now as 11, he is a couple hundred years older, he is feeling a bit nostalgic and lonely.

I am not huge on trying to figure all this stuff out, but after being around for 50 years, you gotta figure the rules are going to keep changing.

And it's definitely Eccleston he turns into. If you haven't seen The Night of the Doctor, you see 8 turn into Hurt.

Yes, I watched it this weekend after hearing someone mention it on the pre-show. I thought that was right, but was confused because I avoided reading anything about future show information so as to be completely surprised going forward, and thought that Smith would be regenerating into Capaldi during this show. Ah well.

Someone shared this with me today:

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2013/11/8_reasons_the_day_of_the_doctor_made_steven_moffat.php

No, sorry. I just passed it on because someone gave it to me to see if it made me feel any better about Moffat sort of declawing the Doctor (imo). I still don't agree with the last bit but she makes good points.

One of the reasons I preferred RTD was that his DW stories were tighter and had more referential integrity than Moffat's. I've given up on details making sense with Moffat.

*not that I don't still enjoy watching Doctor Who*, mind you.

I liked the episode but it was a bit of a let down. At least they explained some stuff... but he seemed surprised to hear that Galiffrey was stuck in another universe, when he knew he stuck them there? (and now they're not time locked anymore, but in another universe... whatever).

It seems like most posters saw the most recent episode, but not the second most recent episode.

If you are referring to the expressions of confusion about the status of Gallifrey and the Doctor's supposed memories thereof, it's not necessarily because they missed an episode. I saw The Day of the Doctor and The Time of the Doctor, and still can't make sense of what Moffat is doing with all that (or why). Nevertheless, I enjoyed both episodes and was glad that Matt Smith finally grew on me enough to make the parting bittersweet. I didn't cry like I did when DT left, but it was all good.

"Number Ten once regenerated and kept the same face... I had vanity issues at the time." hehheheh

I liked the episode but it was a bit of a let down. At least they explained some stuff... but he seemed surprised to hear that Galiffrey was stuck in another universe, when he knew he stuck them there? (and now they're not time locked anymore, but in another universe... whatever).

I'm guessing when The Doctor tried to put Gallifrey into the painting, it didn't go directly as planned and ended up being in a different dimension instead.

The regeneration of Matt Smith was a bit off imo. I blame that all on throwing Amy Pond in there. She didn't need to be a part of the episode. They just turned it back into the Amy Pond show at the end and really annoyed me. It just made Clara look completely weak and unimportant. Peter Capaldi is going to be a fantastic Doctor though! I can't wait!

I don't know. I mean, when 10 died, he went and visited all his old companions too.

I'm still hung up on the whole Galiffrey thing. Unless Clara going back in 11's timeline changed things up I guess... but it still makes no sense to me, how the doctor can go from remembering the time lords being time locked and preventing them from coming back (End of Days), to remembering destroying them (last episode of season 7), to actually sending them to another universe and being excited to find them again (50th anniversary), to stopping them from coming through this universe again in the last one (and I'll ask, while I'm at it - why bother? I mean, he protected Christmas for 300 years, wasn't going to answer the question to protect it, but the dalleks attacked anyway, what difference would it have made if he had answered the Time Lords with his name? Why did he suddenly not want them to come back - again? after being so excited to find Gallifrey again in the 50th anniversary).

The whole thing just totally confuses me. Feel free to shed a light. But I'm joining the 'Moffat needs to be fired' cause until then.

The whole Gallifrey and Time War stuff has bothered me always. Even before.

1- The Daleks are gone because they were destroyed in the Time War. The groups that got out and grew, OK, but End of Days with Davros was a bit much for me on that one. Also the Daleks home world? that should not exist, yet they went there.
2- Gallifrey tried to come back through the Master, but they didn't seem to be fighting a war when they came back. If they were from a time locked place, then they shouldn't be just like "we need to come back"
3- Gallifrey is now again trying to come back after the Doctor sent them away when he was 10? Expecting the Doctor to just give his name and let them come back? That makes no sense either.

Generally over all if you think too hard on it, the whole thing will give you a damn headache. I personally try not to think too hard about it and just either enjoy the episode or I don't. I think that when you are watching a Science Fiction show, that really is written for children you have to just enjoy it. The rules are going to change and shift. I do think Moffat is getting a bit stale though. Its hard after 50 years and I think he is trying to be different, but its getting a bit blah or over the top.

This years Christmas episode was boring. I did not like it at all. I didn't mind the regeneration, but found the rest of the episode to be a huge let down. I am looking forward to see how Peter Capaldi does as the Doctor and the relationship of the new Doctor and Clara will be interesting too.

I wasn't that impressed with it either but I think it suffered with what a few people have said - what more can they do with it after fifty years without causing further timey wimey loopholes and such.

I got the impression a lot was crowbarred into it as well and that the commercial aspect of the franchise is creeping in - it just didnt have the depth that the earlier Smith episodes had for me. The amount of times I have watched an episode puzzled only to have it loop back three episodes later in a eureka moment was severely lacking. That said, it was a Christmas episode so the special effects heavy storyline was to be expected.

I am looking forwards to what the new Doctor brings though with a lot of anticipation - here's to the 34th Doctor when my kids are my age.

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http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2014/jan/03/sherlock-doctor-who-fans-influencing-tv

Interesting read

Matt Smith is by far my favorite doc. The 9th is the first doc i was introduced too, but all in all i think they all are bad *kitten*.