Scale, why should I dump thee? Let me count the ways....
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canadjineh wrote: »SuperCarLori wrote: »prestidigitate ketchup into a "vegetable".....
wow.
A regulatory miracle!
(It's something like a Dutch treat.....)
You must mean Kecap Manis - Dutch Indonesian sauce - basis for the word ketchup.
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cstehansen wrote: »@blambo61, wouldn't the same logic apply to other biological measurements that sometimes seem unfavorable, like blood glucose and blood pressure....(and, uh.... IQ) ?
I am for required IQ testing of politicians. Just sayin'. Of course we would have to have the tests closely monitored since a politician who doesn't cheat is a rare breed indeed.
Not necessarily cheaters.... maybe just open-minded as far as lobbyists for the testing industry are concerned. (Perhaps the same lobbyists who induced our elected reps to prestidigitate ketchup into a "vegetable"..... )
Leave it to the government to classify a sugar filled condiment made with a fruit (tomato) as a vegetable when there are no vegetables even in the ingredients.3 -
tomato is a vegetable according to the government as confirmed by the supreme court
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OK, I've not seen this thread before, so here are my thoughts:
On the initial topic: I weigh more after I poop for some reason (another user mentioned that too), and that has been true for every scale I've ever used over the years. Also, I weigh less after I shower. It doesn't seem like I am removing that much dirt, skin, hair to counter-act the water I'm taking on.
On the more recent topic: I've always been in awe at the tomato fruit / vegetable debate. I call it a vegetable based on nutrition content, though I know botanists are going to argue it is a fruit based on how it grows. Similar conversation with peanuts - nutritionally, they are a nut, but technically they are a legume.3 -
I always feel less than honest telling people I eat almost no fruit knowing so many "vegetables are actually fruit.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-blog/fruit-vegetable-difference/bgp-20056141
"According to botanists (those who study plants) a fruit is the part of the plant that develops from a flower. It's also the section of the plant that contains the seeds. The other parts of plants are considered vegetables. These include the stems, leaves and roots — and even the flower bud.
The following are technically fruits: avocado, beans, peapods, corn kernels, cucumbers, grains, nuts, olives peppers, pumpkin, squash, sunflower seeds and tomatoes.
Vegetables include celery (stem), lettuce (leaves), cauliflower and broccoli (buds), and beets, carrots and potatoes (roots)."2 -
For me, the nutrition aspects are most important. My body doesn't care what part of the plant it comes from. Then again, I'm looking at much more nutrition detail than simply "fruit" or "vegetable."0
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I haven't ditched the scale and its too big to hide (hospital grade, though it only comes up to the waist) but I've stopped getting on it. Currently its wearing my robe. I finally realized that the things I'm interested in, smaller clothes, more energy, less joint pain, the ability to wear cute shoes (that may not be alleviated by low carb dieting but one can hope) has nothing to do with the scale. Since the only folks really concerned with the scale number is work, same hospital the scale came from, I'm letting them keep track. I'm tracking my clothing size and my fitness levels, which are way more fun. The occasional picture is helpful but in no way do I consider this fun.5
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Plain old scales give you no insights at all on body composition. 0
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Would we consider the scale at the doctor's office more accurate? My scale at home is very consistent with the readings and has a similar reading to the doctor's office type scales. I would be sad to learn if my scale is underestimating my weight by 5 lbs! But as far as day in and day out progress, because it is consistent I continue to use it.0
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Would we consider the scale at the doctor's office more accurate? My scale at home is very consistent with the readings and has a similar reading to the doctor's office type scales. I would be sad to learn if my scale is underestimating my weight by 5 lbs! But as far as day in and day out progress, because it is consistent I continue to use it.
The problem is that our body's aren't even accurate. Lol
Ok. They aren't consistent. That's where the problem is.5 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Would we consider the scale at the doctor's office more accurate? My scale at home is very consistent with the readings and has a similar reading to the doctor's office type scales. I would be sad to learn if my scale is underestimating my weight by 5 lbs! But as far as day in and day out progress, because it is consistent I continue to use it.
The problem is that our body's aren't even accurate. Lol
Ok. They aren't consistent. That's where the problem is.
Truer words, ne'er spoken!
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Bümp for anyone (else) with a sh!ț for a scale.0
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anewlifeat40 wrote: »It's really just a measure of the pull of gravity in relation to your body mass... Not a reflection of one's worth.
AND gravity can change. Really.1 -
Bump up time, because this is an awesome thread.2
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Scale technology has not advanced conspicuously since flat-earth days....
(Instruction starts at 3:45)
https://youtu.be/yp_l5ntikaU?t=225 1 -
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6) You change depending at what time I weigh in, must I factor in the angle of gravity from the moon?2
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TravellerRay wrote: »6) You change depending at what time I weigh in, must I factor in the angle of gravity from the moon?
Yes! It's a known fact within the lunatic fringe of creatures with scales.4 -
I think the scale is a good gauge of overall progress, but as you get closer to your desired goal I think it becomes less reliable. I can swing 3-5lbs in a day, and now I know that it has to do with water retention & how long since certain body functions have occurred. I love the suggestion to get a tape measure ASAP, with or without the scale use. This is what we are looking for anyways, how good we look. Not so much what the scale says. I think overall the measurements & scale are indicators of how good we look at the end of the day. So I wont ditch my scale ever! As much as I use it to indicate the way down, I never want to relax and not see the trend the wrong way either.2
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I'm guessing you'd notice if you had to loosen your belt or switch to sweat pants for work
, but if the scale doesn't cause blood pressure spikes 3x daily before you step on it, no big deal! 1 -
I'm guessing you'd notice if you had to loosen your belt or switch to sweat pants for work, but if the scale doesn't cause blood pressure spikes 3x daily before you step on it, no big deal!
I get what you mean, but sometimes weight gain is gradual, and clothes naturally stretch over time. Also I dont like tight clothes so buy mine a little loose anyway - I can easily gain a whole size in pants before noticing - one day they will seem a little tight, so I go to buy new pants and have to go up a size. Check the scale and gained 10 pounds. I dont want to wait until I have to switch to sweat pants before I "notice" ! By then its a little late!
So I weigh every day. But I use a wifi scale that autorecords it for me, so I just jump on in the morning, glance at it and get in the shower and forget about it. once in a while I check the graph of the past few weeks to make sure it is not trending up.1 -
Would we consider the scale at the doctor's office more accurate? My scale at home is very consistent with the readings and has a similar reading to the doctor's office type scales. I would be sad to learn if my scale is underestimating my weight by 5 lbs! But as far as day in and day out progress, because it is consistent I continue to use it.
From a purely nerdy perspective, if I can't calibrate it, it's can not be precise. It may very well be accurate as far as repeating possibly wrong data, but most of what we are doing are estimates at best.
If we could, in general, step back from attaching so much importance to that number and just use it as a tool, so many would be happier with themselves.2 -
XavierNusum wrote: »Would we consider the scale at the doctor's office more accurate? My scale at home is very consistent with the readings and has a similar reading to the doctor's office type scales. I would be sad to learn if my scale is underestimating my weight by 5 lbs! But as far as day in and day out progress, because it is consistent I continue to use it.
It may very well be accurate as far as repeating possibly wrong data, but most of what we are doing are estimates at best.
Yep. The same goes for food values. We can be off by significant amounts - and that's assuming we measure accurately.
Just looking briefly through reports on supplements at Labdoor.com, even well-reputed companies can be off by 30% on the amount of active ingredient per serving.... 0 -
tcunbeliever wrote: »tomato is a vegetable according to the government as confirmed by the supreme court
stupid, but true
Intelligence is knowing the tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is not putting it onto a fruit salad....
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Vis-a-vis the original question of the thread, it reminds me of a programme I watched many years ago, on body function, health, and odd facts, and I distinctly remember them trying to work out a conundrum:
They introduced a guy who at the time, held the world record for eating 5kg of spaghetti in around 10 minutes, or something ridiculous like that....So: They weighed him before the eat-in. He ate, on stage, in front of a live studio audience, 5kg of pasta as fast as he could (but didn't break his own record) and even while he was chewing the last mouthful, he got back onto the scales.
He weighed just 1lb more than before eating 5kg of spaghetti.
W T actual F.....?!1 -
Would we consider the scale at the doctor's office more accurate? My scale at home is very consistent with the readings and has a similar reading to the doctor's office type scales. I would be sad to learn if my scale is underestimating my weight by 5 lbs! But as far as day in and day out progress, because it is consistent I continue to use it.
My scale used to be in a doctor's office and it is different from the scale in MY doctor's office.
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I have a fancy 'weight watchers' scale that has all the bells and whistles, but I don't use it any more because its accuracy is abysmal. The readout will confidently tell you down to 0.1 pounds what it thinks you weigh, but if you get on and off five times in a row you will get five different results. And they can very by several pounds each way.
It turns out that it was only accurate to with +/- 1 pound, for weights under 100 lbs. Over 100 lbs, it was worse than +/- 1%. So at 400 lbs, that's +/- 4lbs, or potentially an 8lb swing, every time you get on the thing.
What I use now is a commercial scale meant for measuring products. I got it on sale at Staples, and its accuracy is +/- 1 lb up to 400 lbs. I've found it is a lot more consistant and reliable / believable. The readout doesn't give 0.1 lb increments, it does 0.5lbs but if I fall on a .5 I round up, I only record whole numbers in my diary / log.
Even at that, I know the scale may not be terribly accurate because our bodies fluctuate daily and weekly. But it's a guideline, and it's numbers, and I do like numbers.
p.s. sorry if I've posted all that before, I am having deja-vu but I don't think I've posted in this thread before.
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AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »tcunbeliever wrote: »tomato is a vegetable according to the government as confirmed by the supreme court
stupid, but true
Intelligence is knowing the tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is not putting it onto a fruit salad....
Does this mean my fruit salad of zucchini, tomato and avocado is no good?1 -
cstehansen wrote: »AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »tcunbeliever wrote: »tomato is a vegetable according to the government as confirmed by the supreme court
stupid, but true
Intelligence is knowing the tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is not putting it onto a fruit salad....
Does this mean my fruit salad of zucchini, tomato and avocado is no good?
Just don't put ketchup on it...2 -
cstehansen wrote: »AlexandraCarlyle wrote: »tcunbeliever wrote: »tomato is a vegetable according to the government as confirmed by the supreme court
stupid, but true
Intelligence is knowing the tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is not putting it onto a fruit salad....
Does this mean my fruit salad of zucchini, tomato and avocado is no good?
Just don't put ketchup on it...
I never liked that red sugar sludge.1
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