4031isaiah wrote: »

I have heard so many people talk about how fast the weight fell off of them with Keto. I also have friends who do low carb counting net carbs and eating things like muffins, "Keto cookies", low carb bread and tortilla wraps who still manage to pull off big #s each week.

Me, on the other hand, I'm still sticking to 1200-1400 cals, 20-30 actual carbs from only whole foods and my Ketostix have consistently shown ketones since the first week.

This is week 6 of full-on Keto and week 11 since I went low carb and I'm only down 10.6lbs

@4031isaiah - So many of us have so much invisible internal healing we must do to our bodies before we can lose weight. The first time I went keto, I lost at a good clip, for 2 months, then hit a wall, and did nothing but gain for the next 16 months...but that's when my thyroid started it's craziness.

I also started treating all my nutrient/vitamin deficiencies around that time... This article really helps me keep some sanity. http://www.tuitnutrition.com/2015/12/why-not-losing-weight-2.html

I'm actually kind of scared to reboot again AGAIN. Think I'll wait until after my "second opinion" consult with a new Endo before deciding what to do...

jlfeath829 wrote: »

Hi all, I'm in the planning phase of adopting a keto lifestyle (basically I'm a compulsive researcher and a procrastinator) and I'm pretty excited to get started! I have PCOS and hypothyroid, and while my goal is to lose weight, I also want to get to a point of not needing meds like metformin and levothyroxine. Anyone have tips about going keto while on these meds and any adjustments to make? I'll talk to a doctor of course, but am interested in real-life experiences as well.

@jlfeath829 - I also have PCOS, have hypothyroidism, have insulin resistance, and other issues.

What I will say is that the link I posted today to Christie, from tuitnutrition.com, about why some folks don't lose weight with keto, that post really hit home with a lot of what I suffered with my thyroid on keto.

My insulin resistance was well managed on keto. My PCOS came into far more balance (keto tends to push the hormonal rewind button for many of us - so can be chaotic at first, then levels out) with keto...

But, my thyroid went into chaos. However, my new DO seems to think we can adjust my meds to account for how keto was affecting things, particularly nutrient absorption and such...

Getting nutrient deficiencies, particularly D3, B12, Magnesium, Folate, Ferritin, Zinc, and Boron, addressed has been crucial in my thyroid repair. However, unless I find a way to reduce and repair the specific damage I've done to my thyroid and entire endocrine system, it is unlikely that I'll ever been fully off thyroid meds. It is possible for SOME people, but not for everyone.

PCOS, IR, hypothyroidism, digestive problems (from reduced stomach acid due to reduced thyroid function), and nutrient deficiencies all go hand in hand. I had genetic predisposition to PCOS and thyroid issues, and can trace symptoms back to around puberty, if not before, but the worst of everything kicked into high gear after the combination of childbirth and having my gallbladder removed within 2 months of each other...

I, too, researched for a long bit, but once I finally decided to do low carb, I dove right in. Somewhere between 350-500 carbs one day, 50-60 carbs the next day. I didn't intentionally aim for keto until about 4 weeks after I started with low carbs. For many thyroid patients, a total carb goal of 75 grams per day is better, and honestly, if most of those carbs are vegetable/whole foods based, that can even create light ketosis for some.

Feel free to hit me up if you have ANY questions... I'm happy to help prevent others from struggling the way I've had to do.

@richarddavis196 - Be sure to look into Digestive Enzymes. Research now shows me that I should have started them immediately after having my gallbladder out in December 2000 instead of just last year in February when my bile situation became truly awful. Keto showed me the underlying nutrient deficiencies and digestive problems and all of that by bringing them to the forefront.

Also, since following the keto-enzyme protocol of using two per meal instead of one, I've stopped nearly all the random digestive pyrotechnics that follow having one's gallbladder out.

I am thinking that since RNY already compromises nutrient absorption, and having your gallbladder makes it harder to properly breakdown and absorb things properly (takes years to show on tests unless you already had problems), I was thinking that the combination of those two will amplify this effect for you... I didn't hit a wall until 7 months and 14 months in (after a buckled down reboot) with keto and no gallbladder...so you might not for a while, but no point creating deficiencies and such if you can avoid it!

@richarddavis196 - Looking forward to those results! Best of luck as you continue on.

sebastiansteinmann wrote: »

So yesterdays bliss got crushed today.
Gained back 4 of the 5 lbs.

From thinking this is almost too easy to it's impossible.

So now I just have to wait a couple of days to get the real trend.

@sebastiansteinmann - It isn't possible for you have gained 4 pounds of fat overnight unless you consumed 14,000 calories OVER your maintenance calorie amount AND added in any activity calories. So, that has to be water weight fluctuations. SOOOO many things affect that. There was an athlete who tracked his water weight fluctuations over the course of a day. From the lowest weight that day (after a run, I think), to the highest (after a meal or something), the weight difference over the day was literally 20 pounds. If he can change that much within a day, it's very easy to understand that we can do that overnight. Most particularly of note is that used muscles tend to hold in water for repair and such. Took high a deficit, too low water or sodium consumption, so any factors... Look at your weight loss as a trend. For Apple OS, use the "Happy Scale" app....for Android, use the "Libra" app. They'll show that even with daily weigh ins if your overall trend is going down. Remember, too, that if you don't have a lot to lose, you can always lose inches even (or especially?) when not losing weight or even when gaining... @Sunny_Bunny_ has some great pictures... As does Staci of Nerd Fitness... www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/ www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2013/09/26/an-update-with-staci-our-powerlifting-superhero-plus-academy-scholarships/ Both show how she weight more and looked more fit due to body composition changes.

Pictures and measurements are CRUCIAL for keeping your sanity in check while the scale does it's crazy lying bouncing thing...

@elize7 - I'm glad you're making some headway back the good direction... Sending all the hugs...I can't imagine what will happen when I lose my parents, as we all know will happen in time..

That is fabulous, @elize7 ... I hated yet another place to log in my weight numbers, so I never got into Libra, much... Maybe I should try again since I know that the trends will probably help my perspective again...

@4031isaiah "Libra" LOL