Doom, Despair, and Agony on Me! (aka a whine thread)
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@bmeadows380, this is in reference to a week ago when you were trying to consume a lot of calories. Do you like coffees? If so, a breve is a fantastic way to drink some calories! (A breve is like a latte, but it's made with half and half.)1
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Up another pound this morning!..”I will fix you my pretty”....I finished eating a six inch Boars Head Italian Sub and 3/4 c. Macaroni salad!....now I am full anyway!....not proud of myself but the scales will either go up or down in the morning!...I am not in binge mode so a light dinner tonight, lots of rest, a new magazine and only anxiety over my husbands health...
I actually think I am eating too many carbs and not enough protein...might explain my hunger and not feeling satisfied with the amount of food I am eating...( sigh ) tomorrow I will set my goal at 1450 calories and 1 1/2 lb a week loss....I will go to the pool and get my exercise in....I will eat back 25% of my exercise calories...I will trust the process, be patient and “WEIGHT” for the scales to go down....
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bobsburgersfan wrote: »@bmeadows380, this is in reference to a week ago when you were trying to consume a lot of calories. Do you like coffees? If so, a breve is a fantastic way to drink some calories! (A breve is like a latte, but it's made with half and half.)
I've never heard of a breve but if its half cream and half coffee, I'd probably like it!2 -
Hugs, Connie! It's the WORST when you are doing everything right and still not losing. (I'm plenty of wrong things, and even then plateaus are maddening!)1
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conniewilkins56 wrote: »Up another pound this morning!..”I will fix you my pretty”....I finished eating a six inch Boars Head Italian Sub and 3/4 c. Macaroni salad!....now I am full anyway!....not proud of myself but the scales will either go up or down in the morning!...I am not in binge mode so a light dinner tonight, lots of rest, a new magazine and only anxiety over my husbands health...
I actually think I am eating too many carbs and not enough protein...might explain my hunger and not feeling satisfied with the amount of food I am eating...( sigh ) tomorrow I will set my goal at 1450 calories and 1 1/2 lb a week loss....I will go to the pool and get my exercise in....I will eat back 25% of my exercise calories...I will trust the process, be patient and “WEIGHT” for the scales to go down....
Thanks everyone for your support!
I wasn't worried. You are nowhere near ready to quit regardless of what the scale does. It might feel that way for a moment when you get mad but you are so much stronger now.
You lose fat everyday that you are in a deficit. It will ALWAYS show up eventually. The amount of time that eventually can take can really suck sometimes but it always shows up.2 -
I know this is true. Why is it so hard to be patient during the rough times?! (That's a rhetorical question.)conniewilkins56 wrote: »Up another pound this morning!..”I will fix you my pretty”....I finished eating a six inch Boars Head Italian Sub and 3/4 c. Macaroni salad!....now I am full anyway!....not proud of myself but the scales will either go up or down in the morning!...I am not in binge mode so a light dinner tonight, lots of rest, a new magazine and only anxiety over my husbands health...
I actually think I am eating too many carbs and not enough protein...might explain my hunger and not feeling satisfied with the amount of food I am eating...( sigh ) tomorrow I will set my goal at 1450 calories and 1 1/2 lb a week loss....I will go to the pool and get my exercise in....I will eat back 25% of my exercise calories...I will trust the process, be patient and “WEIGHT” for the scales to go down....
Thanks everyone for your support!
I wasn't worried. You are nowhere near ready to quit regardless of what the scale does. It might feel that way for a moment when you get mad but you are so much stronger now.
You lose fat everyday that you are in a deficit. It will ALWAYS show up eventually. The amount of time that eventually can take can really suck sometimes but it always shows up.
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I should have expected it, but I had a fibro flare today and felt so rotten that I've eaten more than I should. I'm nowhere near maintenance calorie wise, but I just decided that was where I'd eat today so that I didn't have to worry. Fibro flares feel like that all-over body ache you get with the flu, plus bonus pain anywhere you've ever damaged a joint or pulled a muscle in your lifetime, plus the type of skin pain you get with a sunburn. And also cognitive fogging that makes you feel like you can't quite get all the way awake.
I overdid it with all we did the last two days, and this is what happens when I do that. (sigh) I've lived with this for twenty years, you'd think I'd anticipate this, but it surprised me like I never had one before. And I haven't really had one all that recently. For which I thank the weight loss and my increasing fitness.2 -
SSDD. That is my world right now. I read everyone's posts and a lot of us are in the same back and forth. I went on a vacation two weeks ago. I didn't weigh any of those days (I couldn't pack my scale in my luggage since we were flying). I ate decently and exercised a bunch. I got home and was up 4lbs. I knew in my mind that this was just water weight (man FL is hot) and flying and eating differently. After a week it went back down to my prevacation weight. Woo hoo right? Then I went camping this past weekend. Can't weight at camp. So two more days not in my tracker. Weighed again on Monday and I'm up 2 lbs. Today is Thursday and I am still hovering right around where I was on Monday. I am the kind of person that weighs everyday and knows that there are ups and downs. But my line has a steady decrease over time. With the gaps in my tracking and big uptakes when I start back my trend line is no longer going down. My logic brain says it will come trust the process but my fat brain says what the hell am I doing all this work for when it isn't working anymore. Just complaining. I know it will work but man this waiting game sucks!3
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SSDD. That is my world right now. I read everyone's posts and a lot of us are in the same back and forth. I went on a vacation two weeks ago. I didn't weigh any of those days (I couldn't pack my scale in my luggage since we were flying). I ate decently and exercised a bunch. I got home and was up 4lbs. I knew in my mind that this was just water weight (man FL is hot) and flying and eating differently. After a week it went back down to my prevacation weight. Woo hoo right? Then I went camping this past weekend. Can't weight at camp. So two more days not in my tracker. Weighed again on Monday and I'm up 2 lbs. Today is Thursday and I am still hovering right around where I was on Monday. I am the kind of person that weighs everyday and knows that there are ups and downs. But my line has a steady decrease over time. With the gaps in my tracking and big uptakes when I start back my trend line is no longer going down. My logic brain says it will come trust the process but my fat brain says what the hell am I doing all this work for when it isn't working anymore. Just complaining. I know it will work but man this waiting game sucks!
Omg...that is exactly how I am feeling!....yes Florida is hot....I hate summer in Florida....all 47 years of it!...seems like if I don’t log every morsel of food or if I eat one meal out of my norm, my weight starts bouncing around....I am so frustrated and aggravated and angry....all the hard work for 15 months and it would be oh so easy to just say F@#$&* it!!!....this swimming is whipping my butt....I need to slow it down and then I will get less food...my husbands health continues to get worse....I feel so defeated....let’s all whine together....1. 2. 34 -
conniewilkins56 wrote: »SSDD. That is my world right now. I read everyone's posts and a lot of us are in the same back and forth. I went on a vacation two weeks ago. I didn't weigh any of those days (I couldn't pack my scale in my luggage since we were flying). I ate decently and exercised a bunch. I got home and was up 4lbs. I knew in my mind that this was just water weight (man FL is hot) and flying and eating differently. After a week it went back down to my prevacation weight. Woo hoo right? Then I went camping this past weekend. Can't weight at camp. So two more days not in my tracker. Weighed again on Monday and I'm up 2 lbs. Today is Thursday and I am still hovering right around where I was on Monday. I am the kind of person that weighs everyday and knows that there are ups and downs. But my line has a steady decrease over time. With the gaps in my tracking and big uptakes when I start back my trend line is no longer going down. My logic brain says it will come trust the process but my fat brain says what the hell am I doing all this work for when it isn't working anymore. Just complaining. I know it will work but man this waiting game sucks!
Omg...that is exactly how I am feeling!....yes Florida is hot....I hate summer in Florida....all 47 years of it!...seems like if I don’t log every morsel of food or if I eat one meal out of my norm, my weight starts bouncing around....I am so frustrated and aggravated and angry....all the hard work for 15 months and it would be oh so easy to just say F@#$&* it!!!....this swimming is whipping my butt....I need to slow it down and then I will get less food...my husbands health continues to get worse....I feel so defeated....let’s all whine together....1. 2. 3
Girl the list goes on and on. I wish I could swim but my husband ripped the pool cover and now the water is too cold to get in. I've been scatter brained recently and can't remember what I need to do from hour to hour. I have been hungry but not really hungry just bored eating (still staying in my calories but getting super close). I feel like a child having a tantrum! I want to stomp my feet. Maybe that will burn a few calories! lol.
The important thing is we will both get through this! We will be better on the other side of this hill. But it sure helps to whine and complain.3 -
@conniewilkins56 are you tracking sodium and using accurate entries? For myself, even within calories, that sub and salad would be a lb+ gain due to sodium the next day.
@TheLastMrBig what mfp offered me when I started out was an optimization problem/ Tetris game.
You have your budget for calories and you're trying to maximize your benefits.
Benefits can change over time: satiation, nutrition, hedonism. I mean for sure in the beginning maximum satiation was the one and only target for myself, as the years rolled on other benefits acquired more importance.
But my biggest tool with mfp was making rational and "informed" deliberate decisions.
And I did that with the most simple set of unbreakable rules I set for myself back then.
When I was eating that's all I was doing: not watching tv. Not on the computer.
But more importantly, nothing went in my mouth BEFORE getting logged, correctly, on mfp!
It is amazing how much that cut down on casual bites. Or eating things that were less worthwhile.
Or how it led me to discover (because logging correctly used to take a lot of time) that eating an apple or two (which were easy to cut, weigh, and log while preparing other food), really did cut down on how hungry I was and allowed me to, for example, delay a meal, which then allowed me to fit an ice cream cone instead of a later skipped meal leaving me happier in the end while still meeting my goals! (And it led me to decide that food is food. If _once in a while_, I eat a double scoop waffle cone, it is ok to not have an official dinner that day. I won't get malnourished because of it!)
Once you log pancakes or something else, you can then compare where they will leave you and decide between the alternatives. And skip them/ decline if they don't measure up and have something else instead that does!
Another decision is whether this is a priority or not. And by how much.
While I regret it a bit now and know that I could still have been successful without doing so, during my first few months on MFP I had a pretty pointed chat with my parents about whether it was acceptable to be making extraordinary tasty family favourites for every meal and everytime I visited them and I certainly implemented an "I am the one cooking for everyone" quite often when I'm here approach.
That, and ordering food at restaurants to be prepared as I wanted even if off the menu. Working with the staff and within their menu/abilities, but not being afraid to politely but unequivocally specify my wishes always aiming (when I was starting out) for a "price in calories vs satiety performance/benefit" maximization.2 -
I wish you hadn’t used my food log yesterday as an example of how I usually eat...I was throwing a tantrum and didn’t eat anything I usually do...( very sad face )2
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SSDD. @gewel321 I feel like this is the perfect response when anyone asks me "How are you?" these days.
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@NovusDies Mostly keep track in my head now. Unless the scale starts telling me I’m not doing it right. But since I eat the same things a lot, it’s not that difficult.
But intuitive eating? I think it’s a myth. The dieter’s Shangri-La.2 -
conniewilkins56 wrote: »I wish you hadn’t used my food log yesterday as an example of how I usually eat...I was throwing a tantrum and didn’t eat anything I usually do...( very sad face )
Connie, was that to me? I just went by what you wrote in a post above to point out that there are multiple reasons for water weight fluctuations.... I didn't actually look at your log
So just an example, is all, and zero criticism intended! Not sure how many days you haven't seen a loss; but, based on the dates of your posts post diet break and losing a few, it sounds to me that you have less than two or three weeks of no loss while engaged in increased levels of exercise, while the weather is too hot and while you're throwing the occasional tantrum per your words above!
TBH, my advice, as always, will be towards sustainability and moderation ahead of aggressively seeking visible results that threatens to derail you.
In other words eat the most carefully counted calories that you can such that they create a caloric balance that will eventually yield an appropriate weight management result.
In my, personal books, deficits that target more than 20% of TDEE while carrying obese levels of energy reserves (or that exceed 15% or so of TDEE while carrying low overweight, or lower, levels of energy reserves)... well... they're quite aggressive.
If your intake counting is accurate and you've quadruple checked for logging errors... then all you can do is wait.
End of the day you're already doing all that can be done, and time will pass either way!
If your intake counting may not be as accurate (things don't get logged on occasion, eating is not always optimized, etc), then yes, there is a likelihood you're not achieving the deficits you think you're achieving.
I would NOT double down (count super accurately while aiming for very low targets while increasing exercise) but I would certainly tighten up and make sure I am hitting the targets I think I am while also making sure that my targets are suitable for where I am at in the context of the complete process.
Results and deficits that are suitable when starting at 2.5, 3 or 400 or more are not necessarily still suitable a year or two or three later and dozens and dozens (or dozens of dozens in some cases) of lbs down!1 -
Pav888 thanks again...that sorts it out for me a little better!1
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Boyfriend doesn't have a job. This happens in his industry on occasion. And we're okay financially in terms of keeping the lights on and the mortgage paid, so don't worry about that.
But we can't buy unnecessary things and household purchases are often being delayed.
So the new couch and loveseat for the front room are on hold. As is the loveseat for the sunroom. As is the good work chair for the sunroom. And the carpet for the sunroom. And a bed and mattress and boxspring for the guest room.
And so is getting Girlfriend a membership to the YMCA that is one street over. And so is getting me a membership either there or to Planet Fitness down the road. And so is getting me a lightweight inexpensive exercise bike that I can just get on when I feel stale and pedal til I get the blood moving again in my brain.
And I can't buy a corset to help with putting pressure on the bit that I especially want to reduce. Or buy the liners that I need to keep it clean.
And it's all very frustrating, because every project I want to work on right now is one where I need to spend money to go any further and they are all non-critical items, so I can't spend yet. Grr!
Of course, I just KNOW that my weight will lurch downward again, satisfyingly, once I start being able to bike at home and do weight work at the gym. So it's really feeling frustrating that I can't do that, because my big project this year is losing a lot of weight, and I want to lose more than forty pounds.
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This irritation has nothing to do with diet....well, some, I suppose.
I need to make a Blackberry Delight for dessert for tomorrow. I need raspberry sugar free jello. I was at Walmart last night; they had no sugar free jello in any brand at all. (this particular Walmart hardly stocks anything).
Today, I went to the local Krogers in town to get the stuff i couldn't get at Walmart last night, except they had no sugar free raspberry jello, either, store or name brand. I thought I could use kool-aid, but htey didn't have any raspberry flavored kool-aid either. They had regular raspberry jello, but we're talking 320 calories versus 20 calories and we're talking 23 carbs versus 16 and sugar as well - which is 185 calories per serving wiht regular versus 160 calories without regular. With my family's diabetes, I can't use regular jello and with my calorie counting, I don't want to use regular jello. I don't think it will taste right if I just used unflavored jello; the jello gives it that extra boost.
*sigh* so I have to go 25 miles to the county seat to the next closest Krogers to see if they have it. which means another 2 hours of my day lost. And you just know that by the time I get back, it'll start raining so I won't get my walk in or anything else I wanted to do today.......2 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »This irritation has nothing to do with diet....well, some, I suppose.
I need to make a Blackberry Delight for dessert for tomorrow. I need raspberry sugar free jello. I was at Walmart last night; they had no sugar free jello in any brand at all. (this particular Walmart hardly stocks anything).
Today, I went to the local Krogers in town to get the stuff i couldn't get at Walmart last night, except they had no sugar free raspberry jello, either, store or name brand. I thought I could use kool-aid, but htey didn't have any raspberry flavored kool-aid either. They had regular raspberry jello, but we're talking 320 calories versus 20 calories and we're talking 23 carbs versus 16 and sugar as well - which is 185 calories per serving wiht regular versus 160 calories without regular. With my family's diabetes, I can't use regular jello and with my calorie counting, I don't want to use regular jello. I don't think it will taste right if I just used unflavored jello; the jello gives it that extra boost.
*sigh* so I have to go 25 miles to the county seat to the next closest Krogers to see if they have it. which means another 2 hours of my day lost. And you just know that by the time I get back, it'll start raining so I won't get my walk in or anything else I wanted to do today.......
You could use sugar free soda and Knox gelatin...we used to do that in Weight Watchers....I am finding it really hard to find diet jello at any stores...not sure why stores aren’t carrying it...good luck finding something...1 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »This irritation has nothing to do with diet....well, some, I suppose.
I need to make a Blackberry Delight for dessert for tomorrow. I need raspberry sugar free jello. I was at Walmart last night; they had no sugar free jello in any brand at all. (this particular Walmart hardly stocks anything).
Today, I went to the local Krogers in town to get the stuff i couldn't get at Walmart last night, except they had no sugar free raspberry jello, either, store or name brand. I thought I could use kool-aid, but htey didn't have any raspberry flavored kool-aid either. They had regular raspberry jello, but we're talking 320 calories versus 20 calories and we're talking 23 carbs versus 16 and sugar as well - which is 185 calories per serving wiht regular versus 160 calories without regular. With my family's diabetes, I can't use regular jello and with my calorie counting, I don't want to use regular jello. I don't think it will taste right if I just used unflavored jello; the jello gives it that extra boost.
*sigh* so I have to go 25 miles to the county seat to the next closest Krogers to see if they have it. which means another 2 hours of my day lost. And you just know that by the time I get back, it'll start raining so I won't get my walk in or anything else I wanted to do today.......
Before you actually go there, call them and ask if they have it in stock.3 -
Thought I was going to get a good couple of hours of walking in this morning, the weather was perfect and it's supposed to rain for the rest of the weekend so I was going to take advantage. Took dog #1 for an hour-long walk, returned to the house for dog #2, planning to also walk 1 hour with her. We got to the river where we were going to walk and strolled down close so she could splash in the water for a bit. Didn't notice the large mud slick until I stepped on it and my feet flew out from under me! Ended up with a bruised tailbone and my backside completely covered in mud. Returned home and spent a few hours laundering my muddy clothes, hoping that maybe the rain will hold off and we'll get to go on the walk after all.3
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NatashaLP2014 wrote: »bmeadows380 wrote: »This irritation has nothing to do with diet....well, some, I suppose.
I need to make a Blackberry Delight for dessert for tomorrow. I need raspberry sugar free jello. I was at Walmart last night; they had no sugar free jello in any brand at all. (this particular Walmart hardly stocks anything).
Today, I went to the local Krogers in town to get the stuff i couldn't get at Walmart last night, except they had no sugar free raspberry jello, either, store or name brand. I thought I could use kool-aid, but htey didn't have any raspberry flavored kool-aid either. They had regular raspberry jello, but we're talking 320 calories versus 20 calories and we're talking 23 carbs versus 16 and sugar as well - which is 185 calories per serving wiht regular versus 160 calories without regular. With my family's diabetes, I can't use regular jello and with my calorie counting, I don't want to use regular jello. I don't think it will taste right if I just used unflavored jello; the jello gives it that extra boost.
*sigh* so I have to go 25 miles to the county seat to the next closest Krogers to see if they have it. which means another 2 hours of my day lost. And you just know that by the time I get back, it'll start raining so I won't get my walk in or anything else I wanted to do today.......
Before you actually go there, call them and ask if they have it in stock.
they didn't. But they did have my cashew milk and they did have my figs, and they did have a blackberry pomegranate crystal light drink mix - those pouches you pour into a 16 oz bottle of water? I have unflavored gelatin so I'm giving that a try first. I used 1 bottle of hint pineapple flavored water, 1 pouch of gelatin, and 2 pineapple packets I had in the cabinet as a tester; if that sits up and tastes okay, then I'll do the same thing for my dessert using the crystal light mix. If that doesn't work, then they had blue raspberry koolaid mix at least so I can use that.
So the trip wasn't a complete waste, at least.3 -
I'm generally not a doom and despair person (I have been called annoyingly positive more than once), but I'm getting really frustrated with my non-ending (and yet super mild) heel pain. So here goes my long whine!
It started in June, when I was upping my running mileage and distance. I had finished C25K, and started their 10K program. It was feeling SO GOOD. My pace was improving (in the last few years of sporadic running, I was doing 16-17 minute miles, and only 1-2 miles at a time. Suddenly by the end of this C25K, I was doing 13-14 minute miles, for 3+ miles). I felt like I was actually running, some spring in my step, instead of my usual shuffling. It felt so good! I love that sort of cardio - the first half hour is always hard for me, but after that, I feel like I could go forever.
But, I think the increased mileage AND my new-found speed was too much too fast.
I had arch pain for a day or two, which quickly moved to the bottom of my heel. It didn't hurt when I was out running, but afterward and for days after it was sore and stiff. I took a few weeks off to let it heal, and tried again. It felt great when I was running, but again afterwards, was sore and stiff for ages. I stopped running again, but continued to be like this for weeks. I even altered my yoga so as to not aggravate it.
Recently, it has been a lot better. Like I don't have any day-to-day heel issues! So I decided to try going for a walk last week. Just a short 2-ish miles through our neighborhood, wearing my running shoes. It was fine during the walk and immediately after, but by evening, felt painful and stiff again. Its like I just can't win.
I had a tele-visit with a doctor the other day to refill my antidepressants/anxiety meds, and had the chance to ask her about it. She thinks it sounds like plantar fasciitis (which is what I thought too), and suggested continuing to ice it and getting some insoles. If that doesn't help, she suggests a podiatrist.
My insoles just came today, and I put them in right away. I'm going to go for a short walk tomorrow morning and see if they help at all. Honestly I'm not fully sure how to go about finding a podiatrist during a pandemic, especially when I don't even have a primary care provider out here yet. I'm still really hoping this will eventually just resolve and heal on its own if I'm patient enough.
I think what is most annoying is that it doesn't even hurt that much. I could 100% push through it and not even pay it any mind. But I'm trying to be diligent and not do anything that could potentially make it worse or take longer to heal. Patience is not my strong suite. I really just want to know how long it will take to heal fully, so I get back to my routine.
Running is one of the single best things I do for my mental health to manage anxiety. I've been biking a bit, but I find it harder to get to the level of exertion I need, and just doesn't work quite as well. Once I'm running again, my anxiety will be easier to handle day to day. Almost even more than running (ugh how far back will I have to start again?), I really had wanted to do some hiking trips this fall. And if it hurts just walking around my neighborhood, then I don't think it will do well on 12 miles a day of rough trails.
LE SIGH.
On the bright side, it has forced me to learn how to cut back down my calories with decreased activity (a stumbling block for me in the past). Which I've done successfully. So I guess that is good experience to have under my belt.
(See? Annoyingly positive) 2 -
I'm generally not a doom and despair person (I have been called annoyingly positive more than once), but I'm getting really frustrated with my non-ending (and yet super mild) heel pain. So here goes my long whine!
It started in June, when I was upping my running mileage and distance. I had finished C25K, and started their 10K program. It was feeling SO GOOD. My pace was improving (in the last few years of sporadic running, I was doing 16-17 minute miles, and only 1-2 miles at a time. Suddenly by the end of this C25K, I was doing 13-14 minute miles, for 3+ miles). I felt like I was actually running, some spring in my step, instead of my usual shuffling. It felt so good! I love that sort of cardio - the first half hour is always hard for me, but after that, I feel like I could go forever.
But, I think the increased mileage AND my new-found speed was too much too fast.
I had arch pain for a day or two, which quickly moved to the bottom of my heel. It didn't hurt when I was out running, but afterward and for days after it was sore and stiff. I took a few weeks off to let it heal, and tried again. It felt great when I was running, but again afterwards, was sore and stiff for ages. I stopped running again, but continued to be like this for weeks. I even altered my yoga so as to not aggravate it.
Recently, it has been a lot better. Like I don't have any day-to-day heel issues! So I decided to try going for a walk last week. Just a short 2-ish miles through our neighborhood, wearing my running shoes. It was fine during the walk and immediately after, but by evening, felt painful and stiff again. Its like I just can't win.
I had a tele-visit with a doctor the other day to refill my antidepressants/anxiety meds, and had the chance to ask her about it. She thinks it sounds like plantar fasciitis (which is what I thought too), and suggested continuing to ice it and getting some insoles. If that doesn't help, she suggests a podiatrist.
My insoles just came today, and I put them in right away. I'm going to go for a short walk tomorrow morning and see if they help at all. Honestly I'm not fully sure how to go about finding a podiatrist during a pandemic, especially when I don't even have a primary care provider out here yet. I'm still really hoping this will eventually just resolve and heal on its own if I'm patient enough.
I think what is most annoying is that it doesn't even hurt that much. I could 100% push through it and not even pay it any mind. But I'm trying to be diligent and not do anything that could potentially make it worse or take longer to heal. Patience is not my strong suite. I really just want to know how long it will take to heal fully, so I get back to my routine.
Running is one of the single best things I do for my mental health to manage anxiety. I've been biking a bit, but I find it harder to get to the level of exertion I need, and just doesn't work quite as well. Once I'm running again, my anxiety will be easier to handle day to day. Almost even more than running (ugh how far back will I have to start again?), I really had wanted to do some hiking trips this fall. And if it hurts just walking around my neighborhood, then I don't think it will do well on 12 miles a day of rough trails.
LE SIGH.
On the bright side, it has forced me to learn how to cut back down my calories with decreased activity (a stumbling block for me in the past). Which I've done successfully. So I guess that is good experience to have under my belt.
(See? Annoyingly positive)
This is what I use and I am amazed at the difference:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WP7GXX5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
There are many many different designs of foot rollers. Most of them are free form. Some of them can be placed in the freezer for additional benefit. I chose the above because it is stationary. It probably does not work as good as some of the others but I find it easy to start and use which means I am more likely to use it...1 -
I'm generally not a doom and despair person (I have been called annoyingly positive more than once), but I'm getting really frustrated with my non-ending (and yet super mild) heel pain. So here goes my long whine!
It started in June, when I was upping my running mileage and distance. I had finished C25K, and started their 10K program. It was feeling SO GOOD. My pace was improving (in the last few years of sporadic running, I was doing 16-17 minute miles, and only 1-2 miles at a time. Suddenly by the end of this C25K, I was doing 13-14 minute miles, for 3+ miles). I felt like I was actually running, some spring in my step, instead of my usual shuffling. It felt so good! I love that sort of cardio - the first half hour is always hard for me, but after that, I feel like I could go forever.
But, I think the increased mileage AND my new-found speed was too much too fast.
I had arch pain for a day or two, which quickly moved to the bottom of my heel. It didn't hurt when I was out running, but afterward and for days after it was sore and stiff. I took a few weeks off to let it heal, and tried again. It felt great when I was running, but again afterwards, was sore and stiff for ages. I stopped running again, but continued to be like this for weeks. I even altered my yoga so as to not aggravate it.
Recently, it has been a lot better. Like I don't have any day-to-day heel issues! So I decided to try going for a walk last week. Just a short 2-ish miles through our neighborhood, wearing my running shoes. It was fine during the walk and immediately after, but by evening, felt painful and stiff again. Its like I just can't win.
I had a tele-visit with a doctor the other day to refill my antidepressants/anxiety meds, and had the chance to ask her about it. She thinks it sounds like plantar fasciitis (which is what I thought too), and suggested continuing to ice it and getting some insoles. If that doesn't help, she suggests a podiatrist.
My insoles just came today, and I put them in right away. I'm going to go for a short walk tomorrow morning and see if they help at all. Honestly I'm not fully sure how to go about finding a podiatrist during a pandemic, especially when I don't even have a primary care provider out here yet. I'm still really hoping this will eventually just resolve and heal on its own if I'm patient enough.
I think what is most annoying is that it doesn't even hurt that much. I could 100% push through it and not even pay it any mind. But I'm trying to be diligent and not do anything that could potentially make it worse or take longer to heal. Patience is not my strong suite. I really just want to know how long it will take to heal fully, so I get back to my routine.
Running is one of the single best things I do for my mental health to manage anxiety. I've been biking a bit, but I find it harder to get to the level of exertion I need, and just doesn't work quite as well. Once I'm running again, my anxiety will be easier to handle day to day. Almost even more than running (ugh how far back will I have to start again?), I really had wanted to do some hiking trips this fall. And if it hurts just walking around my neighborhood, then I don't think it will do well on 12 miles a day of rough trails.
LE SIGH.
On the bright side, it has forced me to learn how to cut back down my calories with decreased activity (a stumbling block for me in the past). Which I've done successfully. So I guess that is good experience to have under my belt.
(See? Annoyingly positive)
This is what I use and I am amazed at the difference:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WP7GXX5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
There are many many different designs of foot rollers. Most of them are free form. Some of them can be placed in the freezer for additional benefit. I chose the above because it is stationary. It probably does not work as good as some of the others but I find it easy to start and use which means I am more likely to use it...
Oh and @eliezalot I noticed improvement after the second day of using it.1 -
I have had plantar fasciitis. What I did was to use a night splint. It lets your plantar fascia heal overnight in a stretched position, since the splint keeps your foot flexed. If you combine that with reducing your activity you'll notice things getting better fast.
Fascia takes time to heal, but it will heal. As a rule, because I am prone to having it flare up, I stretch my calves and hamstrings a whole lot. It all seems to pull on each other.2 -
@NovusDies - I have a foam roller I use on my calves sometimes, and will look into something that is foot/arch sized. Do you find you focus more on the arch area or heel area when using it?
@AlexandraFindsHerself1971 - I've briefly looked at night splints, can I ask what kind you've used? I see some that are bigger and more boot-like, and some that are a smaller profile more like a sock or small brace.
Thank you both so much - this is so helpful and reassuring!!
Looks like Amazon is squeezing a few more dollars out of me this week!1 -
I roll from my toes to the beginning of my heal. 10 minutes each foot at least once a day for maintenance. Twice a day if I am experiencing any pain.
Since you do not have an actual diagnosis it is hard to know if it will help or not. If you get it from amazon you can always return it after a few days if there is no improvement.
This roller picked up for me where getting the right shoes finally left off. The shoes were a major improvement but I was still "playing through the pain." I thought I would be returning it after a few days but I figured it was no risk and worth a shot after I saw a person in sports talk about using a roller. It is not the craziest thing I have tried.2 -
I found the bootlike one worked better for me because (entirely personal preference) I could take an ankle that was also being Exceedingly Unhelpful and strap it up in an ASO brace and then put the boot over it, and get absolute immobility.2
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argh!! My streak was reset. My streak on MFP was 367 days. Last week I got busy at work then had to travel after work and I thought I had logged breakfast and I didn't so streak gone!
It was kind of a badge of honor, I've been plugging a long for a whole year, that's no fluke man. On the other hand it is a relief that it was broken and I don't have to stress/think about it. I think I'm not at day 5... lol4
