Doom, Despair, and Agony on Me! (aka a whine thread)
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@Dante_80 and @Athijade - Thank you both! My HDL is pretty good (56) triglycerides are actually quite low, but LDL is almost 200. So all things considered, could be worse.
I agree that the 10g seems....maybe not possible to do and maintain any sort of healthy (or sustainable!) diet, for me, anyway. I have been trying to add more fruit to my day for fiber, have made red meats even more infrequent than they were before, and have been trying to have fish at least once a week. You will pry cheese out of my cold dead hands though.
I like the idea that small changes can add up and have a big effect. Tomorrow is my appointment with the cardiologist, and I'm really looking forward to having a conversation and getting some concrete next steps5 -
Met with the cardiologist today - she is great. Very thorough and reassuring.
Basically it sounds like my high LDL is likely genetic, but not necessarily familial. My mom, who is in her late 60's, just went on cholesterol medication this year. I'm not sure about my dad's cholesterol though.
I won't go on medication quite yet (as we're planning on trying to get pregnant early next year, and would have to go off it again anyway). In every other way I'm super healthy. They did an EKG which was fine, and I will have a CT scan to look for plaque buildup (which we assume will be negative). I'm going to try some additional dietary changes over the next few months, and will have my lipids re-checked in 6 months.
The cardiologist suggested limited saturated fats of course and further cutting back on meats (eating plant based 4-5 days a week). Also...she wants me to cut back on eggs to only once or twice a week
Hard boiled eggs for breakfast are my FAVORITE thing. I literally have it every day. Until now, lol. Time to switch to breakfast beans I guess, lol!
I just messaged the cardiologist and asked hr for a referral to an RD. Protein really helps fill me up, and I want to make sure I'm getting enough if I go even more plant based. (We already eat vegetarian at least a few times a week).
So the good news is at least I'm healthy, I'm not going to keel over any time soon, but some of the LDL might just be out of my control.3 -
keep in mind both as a way to make one yolk go further and as a total substitute depending on use, egg WHITES are not high cholesterol and they ARE high protein.5
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In general I like my PCP. When I was in my chainsaw phase of weight loss I didn't really mind seeing him on a 4 month schedule for blood work and check-ups because I was putting my body through a dramatic change and I needed oversight. It gave me some assurances that my health was improving and that my way of eating was providing enough nutrients to keep my levels optimal. As you know, or may know, I do not subscribe to "clean" eating or eating nothing but foods considered to be healthy. I feel that is unnecessary and I value flexibility. I like knowing that with very few exceptions I can always find something on a restaurant menu or at a family/social gathering to eat. I also believe that denying treat food that I can moderate is all or nothing thinking which for me is dangerous.
After the first of the year my health took a dive which required treatment by specialists. My zealous doctor scheduled another visit at the tail end of my recovery. I refused to go. I had been seen by many doctors and I didn't need my vitals checked again and I didn't want to pay to hear my blood results.
The one thing I do not like is that they do not call in refills, each time I need a refill it needs doctor approval. Last week they wouldn't approve it because I canceled my visit. I was told I had to come in. I allowed them to schedule it but it made me mad because I saw him in February so my next visit should be in August not June. I sent an email reminding them that I had graduated to a six month schedule and that is what I expected going forward unless my health required something sooner.
They relented but took a bit of a dig at me. I don't care. My healthcare costs are through the roof this year and my belief system is that healthcare should be reasonable, not a crutch. There is nothing that any doctor can do about the fact our bodies have an expiration date. We are designed to fail. I can go to the doctor every day and I will still eventually die. Being overly worried about that is not a way to live. I know people who have fairly pronounced anxiety about their health and longevity and it drains them. I prefer to spend my energy trying to live a life that is a benefit to other people.9 -
Ugh….I should have known I was getting Shingles…with all of the stress going on with husbands sister, husbands health,COVID surge in Florida, and lots of other anxiety triggers I woke up with a pounding headache and my right eye hurting….too much sun will bring them on for me, too…my nose is starting to swell on the right side as well as my cheek….fun times for me the next two weeks….had it many times….no I haven’t had the Shingles Vaccine because I have to be clear of Shingles for 6 months before I get the shot and lately I have had them more frequently….so glad they never spread or become infected….just makes me feel like crap and lowers my immune system…this too shall pas!8
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Ugh Connie 🥺1
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Ugh Connie 🥺
UGH is right!…thank God they clear up pretty good after the initial outbreak…mine are still in the pre stage today and no visible lesions….I have no scars from them and my nose and eye area are the only place I get outbreaks….I have been to so many doctors for it since I was 19…. It is some kind of a Herpes virus ( not THAT kind lol ) it’s like cold sores and can come back many times….I just feel so tired and weak today….but it will go away!
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Connie ....noooooooooooo!
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I am on day 2 of this migraine. Fortunately right now it has retreated to just being sinus pressure. But I am not having any fun whatsoever at this point. I am hoping I get up tomorrow migraine free.6
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*clears throat*
*best whining voice*
I'm huuuuuuuunnnngryyyyyyyyyyyy.
A few days of less than ideal food choices (I'm glaring at you, lemon blueberry pie) have made me feel like a ravenous bottomless pit. No matter the amount of food, no matter the macro balance, my poor body is just so. hungry. I've eaten close to maintenance the last few days, but am still re-balancing it seems. I think my hunger cues should be back to almost normal now, or at least I hope. But ugh. I just want to spend one evening this week not feeling hungry.5 -
I'm struggling to get back on track after a 10 day (yes, ten 🤦🏻♀️) binge, which culminated in cramming about 4500 calories down my throat on Monday and then spending the night tossing and turning, heart pounding from the overload of sugar. Yesterday and today I've managed deficits and I've removed the remainder of the binge food from the house via the dumpster. I'm so disappointed in myself because prior to those ten days, I was just 0.2 pounds from a new low, which I haven't seen in over FOUR MONTHS now. I thought stress was really my trigger, but now here I went off the deep end with no excuses whatsoever.6
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I'm struggling to get back on track after a 10 day (yes, ten 🤦🏻♀️) binge, which culminated in cramming about 4500 calories down my throat on Monday and then spending the night tossing and turning, heart pounding from the overload of sugar. Yesterday and today I've managed deficits and I've removed the remainder of the binge food from the house via the dumpster. I'm so disappointed in myself because prior to those ten days, I was just 0.2 pounds from a new low, which I haven't seen in over FOUR MONTHS now. I thought stress was really my trigger, but now here I went off the deep end with no excuses whatsoever.
So frustrating and I am right there with you….I can’t seem to get my crap together this week….diet 2 days and binge 3….4 -
We can do it ladies. Tomorrow morning - fresh day - just go easy and take it one hour at a time. Not all is lost - just minor setbacks (so I keep telling myself!)5
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conniewilkins56 wrote: »I'm struggling to get back on track after a 10 day (yes, ten 🤦🏻♀️) binge, which culminated in cramming about 4500 calories down my throat on Monday and then spending the night tossing and turning, heart pounding from the overload of sugar. Yesterday and today I've managed deficits and I've removed the remainder of the binge food from the house via the dumpster. I'm so disappointed in myself because prior to those ten days, I was just 0.2 pounds from a new low, which I haven't seen in over FOUR MONTHS now. I thought stress was really my trigger, but now here I went off the deep end with no excuses whatsoever.
So frustrating and I am right there with you….I can’t seem to get my crap together this week….diet 2 days and binge 3….
I guess what I've learned from the past 4 months is that if I diet 5 days a week and binge 2, then I'm actually just maintaining 🤦🏻♀️ I've got to find something more sustainable.4 -
I guess what I've learned from the past 4 months is that if I diet 5 days a week and binge 2, then I'm actually just maintaining 🤦🏻♀️ I've got to find something more sustainable.
That also means if you diet 6 days and allow one to cheat a little, you will be actually losing and it may be sustainable at this point in time!
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I've really been trying a more moderate approach - and the binge days seem to come no matter what.
I'm not sure why. I'm not sure if it is because of how long I've been (trying to be) in a deficit - about 16 months? The amount of weight loss? How close I am to a normal BMI? The colour of the sky?
But since eating in moderation - very close to or at maintenance - doesn't seem to make a difference on the out-of-the-blue binge attacks, I'm thinking maybe to get to goal will be more of a monthly cycle? 3 weeks high deficit / 1 week over maintenance (if I plan it its not a binge?) and at least then I will be going down?
I seem to be able to manage both of those eating patterns well.
If you can't beat them join them?
Maybe a bad idea. We'll see.3 -
Laurie what works does change over time and with the circumstances. TRYING and ADJUSTING is good. And there is nothing sacred about "a way". BUT, the fight is real with the over-eating episodes. And I am including me today and yesterday and the day before with lack of sleep.
Especially if they're common. Deficit can bring them about. Other issues can bring them about (stress, sleep and all the rest of it). But they're definitely something we all ought to seek to minimize... cause... well... maintenance does involve maintaining and eating close to goal everyday which will break down quite spectacularly if two or three out of 7 days are out of control!
It's one thing to have one day (well) over maintenance and another to be hitting two or three in a row. (and I am differentiating here between over-maintenance vs not achieving a deficit... the two are different in this context)
If you plan it is it a binge? There is the technical definition of a binge. And there is our own definition. We don't all use the word the same way. And our hamsters often determine what is and what isn't--a +3000 Cal day for you may not be a binge and a +500 for me may be depending on how and why it happened.
I suspect that your three down one up pattern is probably a case where the deficit triggers the overeating. But when eating at maintenance and having uncontrolled up days? That may require some hamster detective work as to why that is taking place! Unless it involved naan, or ice cream
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My hamsters are tired - they aren't fully processing tonight. Hot day - lots of walking.
I don't know. I haven't had many full on "binges" - but there have been a few. Some foods seem to bring about a loss of control. Bread - naan! yes. I'm actually okay with ice cream around. Peanut butter and hummus have both become problematic. lol.
If I just skip the grain-based stuff - and "fill up" with other food. Potatoes, beans, veggies, cottage cheese, eggs, yogurt, I seem to be okay and don't get too rattled.
But then I think - nah - that is all in my head - surely it is okay to eat a moderate amount of grain-based food - and it all goes out the window.
The answer seems obvious.
Right now all is good...full belly, no binges, hi deficit, not hungry.
I haven't had any "settled-mind" maintenance days in a long time - because jumping up those 12 or so pounds just pokes my hamsters constantly.
I'm giving it a full out effort to re-lose those. Get to 165 (the closest round number - and about halfway to my new goal). And then figure out the next step. A proper go at maintenance for awhile - without the burden of carrying around regained pounds? Or if things are going well still - keep up the deficit - see if I can reach my final goal of 150?
We shall see.
Binge - in my mind, when there is just no stopping the consumption and any clear thinking goes out the window.
I was thinking that if I eat over maintenance occasionally - it will almost serve as a binge to the hamster that are feeling deprived - yet I will have control?3 -
Lack of sleep. Or just plain old "not quite enough" sleep - plays a big role in my binge or binge-like eating. Part of me seems to think food will solve the "tired" issue. It doesn't usually. But sometimes, a good blast of chocolate or sugar perks the brain up in the final hours of extreme focus. But that isn't quite the same.3
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On the sleep thing I can guarantee you it's a major contributor speaking from personal experience. 500 to 1200 calories takes me from ready to sleep to dragging myself through another three or four hours awake. It's a calculus that more often than not does not make any logical sense... and yet the hamsters have continued to do it for years = decades. And the amount of times these calories gravitate towards chocolate, cookies, candy, energy bars, ice cream versus a nutritional full meal... are extremely well correlated with degree of tiredness.. and the healthy meal is *not* the clear winner.
substitute food for sleep and flog the system for a few more sub par performance hours... guilty as charged; and that's not a net benefit!🤯🥺🤷3 -
I am a Binge eater….what you consider a binge might not be what I think is one… when I binge it is like I am possessed….binging is not grazing all day or eating an extra helping of dessert…..one night this past week due to so many things going on I had a full blown out binge….binging is usually a few hours eating as fast as I can and it doesn’t matter what I consume….it can be up to or above 8 or 9 thousand calories….I gorge myself until I am physically sick and sometimes I cry while I eat….or I will hide my food or leave the house and eat in the car….last week I did all of this….I thought I was way past this in my journey but evidently not….I have been back to basics the past few days taking it one hour at a time….I hope you get yourself back at it…it’s just so not worth feeling like crap afterwards…..whatever it takes I will never go back the way I was two yrs ago…4
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The mental aspect of it Connie is what differentiates things even more so than the quantity of food. The out of control aspect and the guilt feelings too. I've had the out of control experience maybe a single handful of times in my life. The plain overeating one... too many times to count!
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This morning I managed to get up early - ! - Like my goal for a few weeks, and headed out with Laine not longer after 7, before the heat hit.
Beautiful morning, air was fresh and "green" smelling. You could tell it is going to be a scorcher, but not yet.
But it was early on a Sunday morning, in a part of the city that has many troubled people. So there was much evidence of too much consumption last night.
Had me thinking of how it all comes down to that one part of the brain that wants to be fed - with whatever happens to be your drug of choice. And how once it is let loose - even a little - it just can't stop until the body serving it is pushed beyond its limits and simply fails.
Looking at the fellow, hunched over on a bench, a faded t-shirt draped over his bones and the remnants of his "binge" scattered around him. Thank goodness he was still breathing. It hurt to see him where he was, I can only imagine what his life must be like and part of me thought that there but for the grace of God goes I.
Thank goodness my brain (the hamsters in my brain ? thank you for that perfect personification PAV) chose food and cigarettes to spin their wheels over. Alcohol is "fun" - but doesn't feed that part of me - neither does any drug I have encountered (but I'm cautious on that front too - just in case).
So what does it mean? How do we keep those particular hamsters in their cages?
I don't know.
But am pretty that figuring that out is the my final key to maintaining a manageable body weight.
I dream of lean, but understand that the best case scenario is that I'll eventually settle into a comfortably fit range that doesn't require most of my mental energy to maintain.3 -
A psychiatrist once said to me, “ thank God you don’t drink or do drugs!”…..( I never have smoked)
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Hey all. I haven’t dipped my toe into this group much. Just lurked.
But I’m here with a whine.
I’ve lost over 60 pounds in 7 months. I am 4 pounds from Onderland.
And it’s freaking me out
I just had to say that to someone.6 -
But Margaret that's great news❣️ take it easy, look at the trend... and keep going👍2
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@MargaretYakoda
Only way to deal with that kinda freak is to DANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Woohoo.
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lauriekallis wrote: »@MargaretYakoda
Only way to deal with that kinda freak is to DANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Woohoo.
Congratulations.
I have a balance disorder. I shall dance in my imagination. And maybe knit like a fiend for a few days. 🤓3 -
MargaretYakoda wrote: »Hey all. I haven’t dipped my toe into this group much. Just lurked.
But I’m here with a whine.
I’ve lost over 60 pounds in 7 months. I am 4 pounds from Onderland.
And it’s freaking me out
I just had to say that to someone.
THATS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i remember it felt like i was going to be stuck at 200 forever and never dip to 199.
i was convinced my scale was broken.3
