Doom, Despair, and Agony on Me! (aka a whine thread)
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TheLastMrBig wrote: »What is IBS? And yes I've been on this journey for 4 years ...not to sound like *kitten* but I feel some assume this is my first time on this journey and that's not the case
It's been literally 4 years of mostly no success or worse stuff added
So y'all can understand where the frustration comes
I tried to lose my weight for 30 years. The best thing I did was throw all my so-called knowledge out of the window and go back to the beginning.
Also, I have to remind myself of very basic things at times. The irrational noise in my head tends to get loud off and on and going over the basics helps me. I doubt I am alone in this practice.
People just want you to make progress. I, specifically, just throw ideas your way and see if anything will help. I know not all of it will.1 -
IBS: Eat the yummy spinach for dinner. Awaken in the night with racking gut cramps. Going to the toilet does nothing, it's not there yet. Writhe in pain for an hour until you can begin getting it out, and spend two hours on the toilet as your gut viciously empties itself.
Then, a day later, have constipation from hell. Then a bout of diarrhea the day after. And a little more constipation, before your gut calms back down.
I no longer eat the yummy spinach.2 -
AlexandraFindsHerself1971 wrote: »IBS: Eat the yummy spinach for dinner. Awaken in the night with racking gut cramps. Going to the toilet does nothing, it's not there yet. Writhe in pain for an hour until you can begin getting it out, and spend two hours on the toilet as your gut viciously empties itself.
Then, a day later, have constipation from hell. Then a bout of diarrhea the day after. And a little more constipation, before your gut calms back down.
I no longer eat the yummy spinach.
Quite a few years ago before I finally wised up a little bit, I had such a bad attack, I ended up in the ER and had to be admitted because I weighed over 300 lbs and you have to weigh less than that to get a colonoscopy as an out patient....I had vomited so much my throat was bleeding...I have to learn everything the hard way...Evidently I had to learn this lesson more than once...a couple of years ago I binged on chocolate and fried foods and cookies....lots of each....I was so sick I really didn’t care if I died....back to the ER and another colonoscopy....bleeding from my throat,vomiting out my nose and projectile diarrhea along with passing blood....plus I had developed a hiatal hernia that made me feel like I was having a heart attack when I ate.....thank God I came through ok but I stopped eating grease!...didnt make me stop eating much else...when I started MFP I think I was at one of the worst points in my life...depressed,lethargic,in pain and constant stomach aches....on an on...you get the picture rather graphically!...I was lucky no polyps but some diverticulitis that is controlled...and no cancer...just gluttony!...no allergies...
I am so sorry you go through this...I have no advice as I am sure you have tried everything and you are knowledgeable about your limitations...it is miserable...
Take care!2 -
conniewilkins56 wrote: »Quite a few years ago before I finally wised up a little bit, I had such a bad attack, I ended up in the ER and had to be admitted because I weighed over 300 lbs and you have to weigh less than that to get a colonoscopy as an out patient....I had vomited so much my throat was bleeding...I have to learn everything the hard way...Evidently I had to learn this lesson more than once...a couple of years ago I binged on chocolate and fried foods and cookies....lots of each....I was so sick I really didn’t care if I died....back to the ER and another colonoscopy....bleeding from my throat,vomiting out my nose and projectile diarrhea along with passing blood....plus I had developed a hiatal hernia that made me feel like I was having a heart attack when I ate.....thank God I came through ok but I stopped eating grease!...didnt make me stop eating much else...when I started MFP I think I was at one of the worst points in my life...depressed,lethargic,in pain and constant stomach aches....on an on...you get the picture rather graphically!...I was lucky no polyps but some diverticulitis that is controlled...and no cancer...just gluttony!...no allergies...
I am so sorry you go through this...I have no advice as I am sure you have tried everything and you are knowledgeable about your limitations...it is miserable...
Take care!
Ye gods, that's awful. It never got that bad but well before I started to lose weight I got tired of gut cramps and wrote down everything I ate, the weather, where I was in my cycle, and the nature of what I eliminated and any other stresses in my life, in an effort to pin down all my triggers.
And as a result, I learned that I can't have most fruits or most vegetables (alliums being the grateful and delicious exception) or beans, and that I have to seriously limit my consumption of nightshades. (Tomatoes, potatoes, capsicum peppers, and eggplant.) On the other hand, my gut has settled down and I don't hurt all the time, and I only have migraines when storms roll through. I'll take it.
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TheLastMrBig wrote: »What is IBS? And yes I've been on this journey for 4 years ...not to sound like *kitten* but I feel some assume this is my first time on this journey and that's not the case
It's been literally 4 years of mostly no success or worse stuff added
So y'all can understand where the frustration comes
Like @conniewilkins56 said, you have to find something deep that makes you want it more than the instant gratification of food.
I wish I could give you the key to making it stick this time but I'm not even really sure what it is..
My story is that I want to travel, I want to see things and go places I've never been. While being big wouldn't necessarily stop me it would put a hinderance on it. In addition I've been pre-diabetic for years and I kept telling myself I could get it under control if I wanted. Then one day I was full on diabetic. That threw me for a loop. At that point I realized I was kidding myself, I needed to make real changes to be the person I wanted to be. It wasn't easy by any means. It was tough letting go of soda and candy, I would allow myself a little bit but every time I indulged I told myself "This is going to kill you" after a while it finally stuck.
All I can say is keep trying you will find it.
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I'm a couple of pages late because I took a little bit of a social media detox but I wanted to say thank you to everyone who said some kind words after I posted about the experience with my friend's dog. (Luckily, my friend has been nothing but grateful and kind about it all.)
Novus, your advice was super helpful and I related to a lot of it. My partner and I actually just got back from a spontaneous little break on the North Shore and I loosely logged but didn't care much about calories for a few days. It was a great reset for my brain, even if the sore hiking muscles and extra takeout gave me a few added pounds to deal with. (I know it's not a real gain but wow, did that happen fast.) I'm feeling a lot better about reincorporating nutrition and being a more active participant in my own journey now.2 -
TheLastMrBig wrote: »What is IBS? And yes I've been on this journey for 4 years ...not to sound like *kitten* but I feel some assume this is my first time on this journey and that's not the case
It's been literally 4 years of mostly no success or worse stuff added
So y'all can understand where the frustration comes
Like @conniewilkins56 said, you have to find something deep that makes you want it more than the instant gratification of food.
I wish I could give you the key to making it stick this time but I'm not even really sure what it is..
My story is that I want to travel, I want to see things and go places I've never been. While being big wouldn't necessarily stop me it would put a hinderance on it. In addition I've been pre-diabetic for years and I kept telling myself I could get it under control if I wanted. Then one day I was full on diabetic. That threw me for a loop. At that point I realized I was kidding myself, I needed to make real changes to be the person I wanted to be. It wasn't easy by any means. It was tough letting go of soda and candy, I would allow myself a little bit but every time I indulged I told myself "This is going to kill you" after a while it finally stuck.
All I can say is keep trying you will find it.
Exactly!....I am so glad you are improving your health!...no one can do it for you....you are doing great!0 -
TheLastMrBig wrote: »Ever since late Friday night ... My body has been suffering from extreme hot vs cold body sensations consistently throughout day
Right now my legs and feet are cold and gets cold more than usual ....to point I put on socks . Than at night when I lay down my body heats up so bad like a furnace ... Literally, at first I thought it was acid reflux(sorry if I spelled it wrong) because I was constantly burping ...
I've been doing some googling and I'm not sure what's going on...Yes there's other problems due to high blood sugar levels
muscle fatigue, headaches, sometimes cramps in feet. I'm very aware if I don't change eating habits and portion controls .... I will lose feet,toes, legs and eventually life
Can someone that's Diabetic or knowledgable on Diabetes please tell me what's going on with my body and how can I treat it properly?
Yes I have therapy intro on August 17th and Doctors appointment on 25th of this month
No one can tell you exactly what is going on with your body. Even if there was a doctor in this group they can't diagnose from a post on a message board.
Speculation:
It may be circulation issues which, as you know, are common with diabetes and obesity. It is one of the reasons I suggested compression socks to you and making sure you move some each hour you are awake.
I am not sure how often you are in a caloric deficit but that can make a person feel cold too. I struggled with this myself but it was usually just in the winter time.
There could be something impacting your hypothalamus. I am not sure.
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So I fit in the new straight 16 jeans, yay! Put them on, showed off to boyfriend complete with his appreciation of reshaping backside, hung around in them for about an hour, and then nature called. Pulled them back up, went to button them before zipping the fly, and the button flew off.
So no new jeans til I replace the blasted button. GRUMBLE!!!4 -
okay, so I know some people are going to wonder why I put this here:
I hiked nearly 10 miles today, carrying an 8-10 lb backpack on a trail that was nearly 2 miles STRAIGHT uphill in high humidity. I didn't think I was every going to come out on top, and I wish someone would tell the idiots who designed that trail that switchbacks are very nice things to cut into a trail instead of just going STRAIGHT up!!! Course then I walked almost 2 miles along the ridge line road to the next trail head which about 3/4 miles straight down.......
While I am amazed at myself that I did it and didn't kill myself in the process (they weren't kidding when they said you had to be in good shape before attempting that trail), and I did the whole thing in 5 hours when the trail map estimated 7 hours, do you know how many calories that burned? 3,676 calories!!!! On TOP of my normal 2200 calories!!! I went to Arby's for lunch, got a large sweet tea no ice, got a beef and cheddar sandwich, a small fry, a roast chicken salad without cheese, a turkey slider no cheese and no bun, and a cherry turnover and now feel liked a stuffed turkey. Mom is making calzones for dinner, but even after figuring for that and deciding to splurge on a regular 20 oz Dr. Pepper for another 250 calories, I STILL have 2500 calories left to eat today! Even the smores isn't going to get me even close
I'm looking at getting some regular sweet tea and finding any way I can drink some of those calories (hence the sweet tea at Arby's and the regular Dr. Pepper whihc I haven't had in over 3 years now), but I still can't imagine I'm going to get all that in today. We'll see how close I can get.
I know, I know - I'm whining about having to eat, but you try eating 5,000 calories when you've got your body used to eating around 2,000 a day!3 -
I wish I had this problem this week!....read the letter you wrote me when I started on my two week break!....eat cheese,protein bars,ice cream,more meat!....omg BUTTER lol.....real blue cheese dressing...a steak!....need I go on?....and you could rest and stop using all of those calories climbing up mountains!...get a book, a hammock and some wine....not whine lol....enjoy because we are looking for great things when you get back!0
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I know when I go on maintenance it will be a hard adjustment because I already eat a lot of calorie dense foods, and I will just have to gently stretch my stomach back out with larger portions. Not looking forward to that.1
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conniewilkins56 wrote: »I wish I had this problem this week!....read the letter you wrote me when I started on my two week break!....eat cheese,protein bars,ice cream,more meat!....omg BUTTER lol.....real blue cheese dressing...a steak!....need I go on?....and you could rest and stop using all of those calories climbing up mountains!...get a book, a hammock and some wine....not whine lol....enjoy because we are looking for great things when you get back!
@conniewilkins56
*laughs* I thought of that near bedtime lol. I did get a trail mix to cover 440 of those calories. It was hard making myself count all those because that was 100% of the activity-it was hard to believe I was really burning that many calories in activity even if it was strenuous. I have a dentist appointment this morning so my hike won't get started until this afternoon unless it rains. I won't be doing 10 miles today though!2 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »okay, so I know some people are going to wonder why I put this here:
I hiked nearly 10 miles today, carrying an 8-10 lb backpack on a trail that was nearly 2 miles STRAIGHT uphill in high humidity. I didn't think I was every going to come out on top, and I wish someone would tell the idiots who designed that trail that switchbacks are very nice things to cut into a trail instead of just going STRAIGHT up!!! Course then I walked almost 2 miles along the ridge line road to the next trail head which about 3/4 miles straight down.......
While I am amazed at myself that I did it and didn't kill myself in the process (they weren't kidding when they said you had to be in good shape before attempting that trail), and I did the whole thing in 5 hours when the trail map estimated 7 hours, do you know how many calories that burned? 3,676 calories!!!! On TOP of my normal 2200 calories!!! I went to Arby's for lunch, got a large sweet tea no ice, got a beef and cheddar sandwich, a small fry, a roast chicken salad without cheese, a turkey slider no cheese and no bun, and a cherry turnover and now feel liked a stuffed turkey. Mom is making calzones for dinner, but even after figuring for that and deciding to splurge on a regular 20 oz Dr. Pepper for another 250 calories, I STILL have 2500 calories left to eat today! Even the smores isn't going to get me even close
I'm looking at getting some regular sweet tea and finding any way I can drink some of those calories (hence the sweet tea at Arby's and the regular Dr. Pepper whihc I haven't had in over 3 years now), but I still can't imagine I'm going to get all that in today. We'll see how close I can get.
I know, I know - I'm whining about having to eat, but you try eating 5,000 calories when you've got your body used to eating around 2,000 a day!
Can always bank it for another day!1 -
@bmeadows380 you could always offset those calories over a few days...you don't have to offset the burn all in that same day! You could eat 3000 calories for a few days instead of 5000 in one.
Furthermore, why do you think you have to eat ALL of the exercise calories? As long as you're not under-nourishing yourself, and as long as you aren't underweight and trying to gain, I think it's perfectly okay to occasionally have days where you're a lot under.4 -
Grumble. Skin fold infections. Cannot WAIT until that's something I don't have to worry about any more. Stupid pannus. Just go away.4
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bobsburgersfan wrote: »@bmeadows380 you could always offset those calories over a few days...you don't have to offset the burn all in that same day! You could eat 3000 calories for a few days instead of 5000 in one.
Furthermore, why do you think you have to eat ALL of the exercise calories? As long as you're not under-nourishing yourself, and as long as you aren't underweight and trying to gain, I think it's perfectly okay to occasionally have days where you're a lot under.
@bobsburgersfan
I have to eat all of the calories because I'm on a diet break and am trying to eat at maintenance or in a slight surplus to see if under eating has been the cause of my fatigue problems lately. I have to be completely out of deficit for at least a week for the diet break's full effects ti be realized. It makes it harder though with all the hiking I'm doing - I haven't cut the activity down between the moving the friend and the hiking during this vacation!
Of course I'm using MFP's values so all this is estimated to begin with.
I'm carrying about 10 lbs of water weight as of this morning, too *whines* and probably the extra food currently in my system. I go back to deficit on Monday; hopefully by then, the water weight gains will get back off and I can see how much fat I actually gained, if any.1 -
So over time I have gotten to the point where my brain naturally keeps a ballpark calorie estimate based on what I am eating. It works pretty well most of the time. I can look at my logged calorie total and just know something is wrong with it and it almost always is. It is usually something I forgot to log or something I did log thinking I would at it but didn't.
Today I am completely out of sync and WAY over my calories. It is weird because I keep looking at my log expecting to see something I logged but didn't eat. The calorie count is accurate and I did mistakenly eat more than I should have.
If you are wondering how I didn't catch it I have been on the run a fair amount of the day and not keeping my log up like I normally do. I thought I could trust my semi-intuitive calorie estimate and normally I can but not today.
It sucks to eat over my calories and not enjoy it because it was not planned.
Still human apparently.
Ah well... I hope I at least get an energy bump tomorrow.
What a weird day.3
