The New Water Cooler

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  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    I"m sure it is your period that is affecting your weight loss. I remember gaining at that time and then taking another 2 weeks to see satisfying results. Drink lots of water to flush the bloating. Keep your sodium to a lesser level. Hang in there! We both know there will be uphill battles and frustrating weeks. We can do this! We are finally trying again and will move in the downward direction for our weight. Don't starve yourself because you will slow your weight loss. Your body will hold on to fat to keep from starving. Eat all 30 points each day and don't be afraid to be a little over. Do you pack snacks and lunch for work? That is what is working for me. I haven't eaten lunch out during a work day since I started WW's. I pack a lunch box with my lunch, morning and afternoon snack, water bottle, etc. I include veggies and fruits for 0 points but also low point crackers (Wasa Rye Krisps, Sea Salt Mini Rice Crackers) and reduced fat cheese slices. I keep no sugar added hot chocolate envelopes (Swiss Miss) in my desk at work and have a cup in the afternoon for 1 point. That is very satisfying. I also like the Chocolate Premier Protein Drink (11oz containers) which are 2 points and 30 grams of protein each.

    We have found some good recipes on Skinnytaste.com. They give smart point values for serving size. Here are some:

    https://www.skinnytaste.com/grilled-flank-steak-with-tomatoes-red/
    https://www.skinnytaste.com/turkey-meatball-stroganoff-instant-pot-slow-cooker-or-stove-top/
    https://www.skinnytaste.com/sheet-pan-balsamic-herb-chicken-and-vegetables/
    https://www.skinnytaste.com/baked-potato-soup/

    Overcast and gray outside today. I felt tired all day.

    Have a nice evening,
    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    even though Monday and Tuesday were big hungry days I have done ok - don't worry I always eat my points - I try not to dig too much into the weeklies since I worry about under reporting and because I am not exercising in a sweating way yet. My therapy exercises take quite a while but don't burn calories - but I do feel a bit better - so I am keeping with it - she thinks some of the issue is also b/c I have a tipped pelvis which puts more pressure on everything around the bladder - so I am working a lot of trying to retrain my body positioning.

    I had music boosters last night (still ugh) but I was surprised to hear that Ritter (the teacher I have been frustrated with for various things) made Zach a section leader! Wow. We've gone from the criticism that Zach needed private lessons and all his musical 'inabilities' to being named a section leader in concert choir. Zach of course didn't mention it and when I told him I knew last night he gave me a weird look. I told him - it's a cool thing! Sigh. He's still so focused on not standing out - but maybe baby steps !

    hope your family is all over that nasty virus and ready for some turkey fun.

    have a great day!!!
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    Good for Zach! It does sound like he just wants to fit in and not stand out. It sounds like he's having a good year.

    What is your weigh in day? Mine is Friday. I was down today when I stepped on the scale this morning but I did eat some treats at work (birthday treat day at work). Dinner was lean and very good and I'm drinking my water. All in all, still feel I'm doing ok. I did ride my bike (inside on turbo trainer) for 20 minutes. I did intervals with 4 minutes fast and 3 minutes easy for 20 minutes. I sweated and my heart rate was up. I'll work to increase my time. I've scheduled a training class at the gym for Saturday morning.

    My sister weighted in tonight at her meeting. She lost 2.4 pounds this week for a total of 10.4. She's ahead of me. She also lives alone and has total control of her grocery shopping, what's in her fridge and cabinets, and her social schedule. I've proud of her that she is doing so well and is so motivated to lose the pounds. She needs knee surgery this winter and needs to get some pounds off for a healthier outcome.

    How's work and home life treating you? Are you getting some relaxation and doing something fun for yourself once in awhile? I have knitting group tomorrow eve at a member's house. I still haven't started a project but will do so tomorrow eve.

    Have a great evening!
    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    another day

    congrats to your sister - that's an amazing loss. I know you are doing amazing too - we still gotta live too - just being real and honest about how much I was actually eating is huge - that's why tracking works - I am worried about the Thanksgiving break - not the one dinner, but the four days of extra downtime to graaaazzzeee - my nemesis.

    trying to start thinking about Christmas and I think I know what I want to do for the kids - not sure if I will succeed. My phone is dying. So I was thinking about getting Zach and Caleb phones and then making Zach's current one mine. He has a two and half year old iphone 5 - I think it still works for him - I didn't get Zach his phone until 8th grade graduation - but I think that's what I want to do for Cmas - but which phone? The 7 or 8? Obviously not the X - they will have better deals on non apple, but the kids all use apple and then if I take Zach's I can 'track' both of them with the 'find my friends' But even the 7 or 8 will be $$$$ - although with not taking a vacation I have plenty in the vacation fund so I could dip in there
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    I have an Android and don't know much about iPhones. Lucky boys if they both get a good phone.

    Getting ready to leave work, go home and pack up for knitting. I think I might try knitting a pair of chunky socks. I have the yarn and pattern. I tried a few years ago and ripped them out. Time to try again if I can find the yarn and pattern.

    Not a bad eating day today. I'll stay in control at knitting. I'm weighing in tomorrow morning. Not sure I'll see much of a loss but slow and steady wins the race.

    Have a nice evening.
    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    so I've been thinking on some post I read on WW connect (it's a good way to distract myself when I feel like mindlessly eating) - someone was talking about the mental/emotional differences between thin people and not as thin. How for example me - I fear hunger. I really don't know why. I never had food insecurity, but I do fear hunger. The post read that thin people don't. They just know and accept that being a little hungry is fine. They realize there will be another opportunity to eat 'this'. I do that too - I need to eat this now b/c who knows when I will be able to again. Mostly that's untrue. Unless you are somewhere away you will likely be able to eat a special again. They eat less if they have eaten a big meal. I will easily fall into the mindset - I ate big, I'll just keep eating big. I know most of these are just mindsets, although I am really curious as to how to change my perception of fearing hunger. It makes me uncomfortable and anxious.

    I have done fairly well eating this week. There is a turkey dinner at work today, but I don't plan on eating it. I will have turkey dinner next week. If I do well today, maybe I can't treat me and Zach to Subway tonight again (Caleb has sleepover) -

    We are not doing family dinner until next Saturday so I asked the boys what they wanted on Thursday. Of course Caleb is like "Chinese!" - no. We settled on spaghetti bake - which will be hard for me plan wise. But I am thrilled to get him off the Chinese train. All he likes are the noodles. (I know spaghetti bake is noodles too) but it is home noodles and a big part of this is me getting back in the kitchen and cooking again. I have been anti cooking for over a year now.

    here's to a wonder weekend!!
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    **can** treat, not can't.... ;>)
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    I lost .8 pounds this week. Not bad since I had the brewery last weekend and knitting last night. We had chili and corn bread at knitting. I did eat two pieces of corn bread, bad!

    I did well for breakfast and lunch today but met coworkers at a a local brewery for a beer. I had a cheese burger and fries from the food truck for dinner. Not good but there weren't many choices. I have my exercise class in the morning and I will work extra hard. I will be diligent this next week saving weekly points for Thanksgiving.

    Interesting about the mindset of thin and heavier people. I don't think thin people think about food the same. They eat it to fuel themselves and when they are hungry. I've noticed they eat very small portions too. Those of us that fight the battle of weight have issues with eating frequently, portion control, and eating the wrong things. I think we do better if we make sure we are eating in a conscious state of awareness rather than mindless or emotional eating.

    Well lets do well this weekend! TGIF!

    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    congrats on the loss!!! Woohooo!!

    what a weekend. It started out ok, even though that included going to work. Went to look at shoes at a 'real' shoe store. Got fitted - he put me in a 9 which is a full size bigger than what I had been wearing. Bought a new pair of of New Balance and new pair of nicer shoes (those were 8.5 I think. We'll see how that goes. Obviously I spent more going to a shoe store, but obviously I hadn't been fitting myself right.

    Caleb got home from a sleepover, appeared fine. Had to go work at the school 'extravaganza' - big dinner, silent auction thing - he came home early because he said he felt weird, I figured he was tired from being at a sleepover. He wanted to lie on my bed. Fell asleep, and then threw up - all over my elliptical thing from bowflex, which was next to my bed. Oh my frickin' heck. It was like a horror movie. I made Bernie help me haul it outside (which he thought was stupid, but I said was the only way - how are we going to clean it in here?) then started to scrubbing and cleaning and stripping everything away. Shortly after that (it started about 8 p.m.) Caleb started throwing up and having diarrhea about every 20 minutes. Until about 3 a.m. Then he moved to only diarrhea. What a night/day. Don't know if it was food poisoning or viral. He seemed a bit better last night. Took a shower and ate a dry piece of toast. I missed singing at church b/c the only three hours of sleep I got were from 5 to 8 a.m. when I supposed to be there. Bernie couldn't help overnight b/c he was tired and/or scared of getting sick. Meh. Not sure what Caleb will do today. He might be well enough, just not sure if he is strong enough. Unfortunately this is my earlier than normal, early day so I have been at work since 3 a.m. Poor guy. Also - here's hoping no one else gets it. Nasty.

    So. Hopefully your weekend was way better than that!!
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    Oh poor you and Caleb! I hate cleaning up vomit. It flies everywhere and it's hard to see our kids so miserable. I hope you don't get sick from exposure. Did you save your bowflex? Hope so!

    I've lost exactly 8 pounds. Slow and steady, little by little. No upward fluctuations yet. I'm going to weigh in Thanksgiving morning instead of Friday. I plan to eat what I want in moderation. This weekend I made the potato soup and those egg/veggie/turkey sausage muffins for breakfast. Just a little planning for the week.

    Off to see the movie Wonder with a friend. The book was very good but made me cry due to happy and sad emotions.

    One more day of work tomorrow and then off. House needs a major cleaning before Thanksgiving day. Jeff will be home with his new significant other lady friend.

    More later,
    Jenny

  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    he's definitely recovering - he made it through school even yesterday. Just weak now. Fortunately he is off after today and we don't have our family meal until Saturday so he has several days to finish recuperating. And the next big thing hopefully nobody gets it.

    I posted a loss this morning!! Basically it amounts to 4 pounds in three weeks! I am very happy. I am definitely worried about this week. Again, not the one big meal - about all the time at home I will have - to graaaazzzzeeee - come on Marla!!

    we can do it we can do it we can do it
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    Congratulations on your 4 pound loss! Great job! My eating this week isn't on track as much as it should be. I will be busy cleaning tomor row so I will burn some calories.

    Glad Caleb is feeling better. Nasty germ season so far.

    Going to bed. More tomorrow.

    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    Happy almost Thanksgiving! Hope you are having wonderful family time. Had a nice day today. Spaghetti bake tomorrow. Turkey dinner is Saturday.
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    Zach got sick last night. Guess the fun isn't over yet.
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    Happy Holiday Weekend, Marla! Sorry to hear Zach is sick. I hope it doesn't go through your whole family. I somehow experienced a miracle this week and lost .8 pounds including yesterday's eating. I didn't go overboard but I didn't deprive myself of potatoes and stuffing, my favorites.

    Enjoy your turkey day tomorrow. Is it at your house? Do people contribute food or does hostess do all the cooking?

    Quiet today. Russ took the dogs to the dog park, I'm watching Hallmark Christmas movies and Rory is in his room taking it easy. He's suppose to go out with his good friends this afternoon. Russ and I have no plans, just being lazy.

    Stay the points course but enjoy the foods you love and don't feel guilty. Remember we always fluctuate and drinking lots of water will help tremendously.

    Enjoy!
    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    Zach seemed to recover pretty quick. He was sick overnight Wednesday, pretty lethargic Thursday and laid around resting and seemed mostly better Friday. He ate Saturday and didn't have any problems. So that was good. I did so-so with my eating. As I figured no problem with 'the' meal, problems with grazing. I am hoping for a wash tomorrow. To the best of my ability I don't I went over my weeklies, but there was definitely some guessing and I did eat a ton of popcorm - so sodium. Chugging water today and back to trying to embrace empty.

    Dinner was at my folks - whoever 'hosts' does the meat, potatoes, stuffing and then we bring some other stuff a couple of sides and dessert. I made a lighter broccoli salad that I was really happy with and cookies and brownies for the kids. I ate a few of the cookies when the were freshly cooled, but other than that I left them alone and didn't eat one brownie. I was really disappointed in my moms food. The turkey was tough and dry and terrible. I am not a stuffing person and potatoes are not a big deal to me (unless they are twice baked) - so what I was planning on filling up on (turkey) was for me inedible. I ate a lot of my salad, green bean casserole and then a piece of pie.

    My dad got another new tv (have no idea where the other ones are going b/c he certainly never throws things away) and he has it jacked up bass booming. I couldn't stand it - when they put a movie and the floor and windows were rattling. I'm done. Too loud, too hot and too smelly (mom roasted a duck that had smoked up the house). Everyone thinks I am diva b/c I get bothered by smells and sounds - but it physically hurts me. I am not making that shiz up.

    Feh.

    Here's hoping I can have two more really good weeks, that would make me happy. Get past five pounds would be awesome.
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    Sorry your Thanksgiving meal was not up to par. How old is your Mom? I know as my Mom aged her cooking changed and wasn't as good as when she cooked for our family when she was more with it. At least you had a salad you liked.

    Do your parents have hearing aids or possibly need their hearing checked? I would go crazy with all the noise and the loud bass. When I was growing up and we would all get together for family meals it would get too loud for me. I would leave the room and go sit in another room to regroup. Some days I get easily over stimulated by noise. If smells are putrid I can't handle it but otherwise I can cope. Noise and bright lights are my avoidants.

    I've lost 9.4 pounds since 10/23/17. That is pretty good for me! My goal would be to break 10 pounds this week and another 3 pounds by Christmas but that may be tough with the holiday gatherings between now and then.

    Good luck this week with your eating. I did go to the gym after work today and walked 16 minutes on the treadmill (my hip was tight and knee hurting). I did the weight circuit but didn't push myself too hard. All in for 35 minutes. I need to schedule a training class for Thursday.

    Enjoy your evening!

    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    Congrats on your weight loss!! You are doing amazing!!!
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    Long day. Ate lunch in my car and sat in my car between some visits. Never went in to office. Only one home visit tomorrow at 8:45 and then I can get some desk time. I worked at Caribou Coffee this morning between visits and got a report done. Now I have to do attendance and 3rd party billing.

    I'm getting sick of carrots. I need to try some other raw veggies that I can cut up to take in my lunch. I think jicama, green pepper and cucumber would be a nice change. I made a tasty turkey salad with light mayo, grapes and celery and ate it on a deli sandwich thin. Tasted new and great! I think it is exhausting to find different things to eat to keep boredom and cravings at bay.

    Hope you are having a good week.

    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    exactly - cream and wheat and chicken for lunch has been working, but I am already getting bored with it - but I also know it works if I stick it

    unfortunately I am up today - here is where we find out if I stick.

    come on willpower
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    I'm up today too. I don't know why unless it is my cycle. I don't have my uterus anymore so I may get symptoms but no period. I feel irritable and tired, weight was up a couple of pounds this morning. Shocked me! I was feeling pretty good until I saw the number. Hopefully it's the old water retention from cycle. My real weigh in day is tomorrow. I guess I will so i scare myself a second time to do better.

    We have to stick with this through the ups too. We can do this!

    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    I hear you - I am feeling scared and dispirited. I am up two pounds. It's not a bad cycle time yet, and even though I did indulge in too much popcorn (sodium) over the weekend I have been feeling really on track this week but everyday is creeping up more. I could buy a pound of too much sodium/weekend grazing, but this feels wrong. I have to believe that my body is just making adjustments and maybe freaking out, but it freaks me out. I know I have to push through. Mostly really upset b/c I don't feel like I can have my normal weekend 'treat' - either a sub or something b/c I am in a bad place already.

    come on brain, get on the train - not every week will rock - if it were easy everyone would do it - I'm still better off than I was four weeks ago

    go, go, go!!
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    I weighed in this morning. I lost 1.4 of the 2 pounds I was up on Wednesday. Still a 1.6 pound gain this week. I feel bloated. I know I haven't been drinking enough water this week. I started out so strong with water intake and have gradually not made it a priority. It must make a difference. I've also been tired so I skipped my training class yesterday. I should have gone but didn't feel up for it so stayed home. Today I've done ok with eating. We are eating Skinny Taste Sloppy Joes tonight for dinner. I'll have raw veggies and some baked potato with it. I need to get some fluids in me before bed time. Have only had coffee and a protein drink today. Bad!

    If you adjust your breakfast and lunch, could you still have your weekend treat? I think we need to allow ourselves some treats that give us pleasure or it feels like penance instead of a lifestyle change.

    Glad it's the weekend. I need to finish up Christmas decorations this weekend and do some shopping.

    Enjoy your evening!
    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    Did you roll to the new freestyle plan Saturday? I am worried about losing seven daily points. I know chicken and eggs and such are now free.... Trying to find my optimism.

    Have you tried Kodiak cakes? I see on connect that it is a lower pt option people use to make pancakes and waffles
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    I've seen the new program online but I was told my information regarding the program and how it affects me will occur on my weigh in day this week (Friday). I don't know if my points will be lowered or not. Even if they are, turkey, fish, chicken and eggs will be 0 points. That helps a lot. From what I read, they've made the lean meats and eggs 0 points to encourage everyone to eat proteins in addition to vegetables and fruits. Snack foods and higher fat/sugar/calorie foods remain with points because they are easy to over consume. People just need to be careful that they don't over stuff themselves with 0 point foods. Calories are calories and add up. We shouldn't go hungry though either. We don't even have to log the 0 point foods because they don't count.

    How was your weekend? I finished the Christmas decorations, vacuumed, did laundry, grocery shopped and watched Game of Thrones (I'm watching the first seasons and reading the first 4 books). Tomorrow I begin Christmas shopping after work.

    Have a happy Monday!
    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    I am really going to try to go into this new plan with the correct attitude - just worried - I don't eat a ton of meat (eating the chicken once a day for lunch is about all I can handle) - beans often don't agree with and I don't have time to do eggs in the morning - maybe I can do a dozen on the weekend - like I do my chicken - it's just exhausting worrying about the food all the time - this why I don't last long - it's supposed to be somewhat normal food - but I do feel pushed into more meat and plants - I could be doing simply filling if that was my preferred - meh - stop -

    come on attitude

    busy week - music boosters tomorrow, womens choir tonight, advent starts Wednesday and big choir practice after that, practice Saturday and our church choirs program both services Sunday. Such a big weekend.
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    day one freestyle - so far so good -
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    I haven't received my points update. I should get my info on Friday. I assume my points will stay at 30 but we'll see. I think I'll like this plan. I need to print out a list of the zero point food so I can see it when I need to.

    Maybe you should consider Simply Filling. No logging, right? I need to be accountable to myself with the points to stay on track. I'm managing to lose what I gained last week. Hopefully I'll hit 10 pound lost this Friday. We'll see.

    Long day today. I came home wishing retirement was closer. I love the kids and families but they are getting harder each year. Sometimes I think I'm just too old school and grad school was a long time ago. These younger speech clinicians in my program have so much more enthusiasm and more training in some areas I did not get in the 80's. I have a lot of paperwork due by the end of next week so need to buckle down at work and do it.

    Enjoy your music this holiday season at church.

    Jenny
  • mizpaden74
    mizpaden74 Posts: 3,826 Member
    no if you were at 30 (that's what I was at) you go down to 23. Weeklies stay the same - and if you don't use all 23 you can roll up to 4 dailies into your weeklies
  • jrbanta
    jrbanta Posts: 4,367 Member
    I can handle 23 with all the zero points foods. I'll let you know on Friday what info I receive. I checked in for myself on the scale today. 10 pounds down! 40 pounds to go!Hopefully I can hang on to that by Friday and maybe drop a few more ounces on top of that. My sister is at 13.4 loss (5% of her body weight lost). She weighed more than I thought. Good for her for doing so well. I'm glad I proposed we do WW's. How is your week going for you doing the Freestyle?

    I have book club tomorrow eve but I don't think it will be a problem. She usually does soup and salad. I don't plan to drink alcohol or imbibe in the appetizers unless there are raw veggies.

    I bought a Kindle Fire 8 on cyber Monday (only $49) to replace my Samsung Galaxy Tablet that was a few years old. I just set it up and am sure I will like it. I bought a red one with a red case. Pretty!

    We went to Costco after work to get necessities. I bought the Premier Protein Vanilla drink this time instead of chocolate. I needed a change. Only 2 points per 11oz. bottle. I drink one per day either for a snack or with breakfast/lunch to boost protein intake. It's a filling snack or complements my toast or fruit for breakfast. You can order a box of 18 off Amazon for 24.50 or get at Costco. My sister ordered the chocolate to fulfill the chocolate cravings she gets. Very low sugar 2 or 4 grams per bottle but 30 grams of protein.

    Well time for my book (5th book in Game of Thrones).

    Jenny