Bob Lamb - OMAD 9/6/2015

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  • ElizabethAN2017
    ElizabethAN2017 Posts: 565 Member
    blambo61 wrote: »
    WEEK 32 Report

    Date: 4/13/16

    Start Weight/Height/Age/Start Date:
    252 / 6'1" / 54 / 06 Sept 2015

    Weekly Weight Loss:
    4, 3, 3, 1, 3, (1), 5, 3, 2, 2, 1, (2), 4, 1, 2, (2), 0, 3, 1, 2, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, (1), 0, 1

    Total Weight Loss:
    41-lbs / 32-wks

    Current Weight:
    212

    Weeks Comments:
    Lost 1 lb for the week. Wed only ran 1-mile of 5k was a little sick and tried it but decided not to finish. Ran 1st mile, down-hill in 7:38 and walked back. Had a headache that day and ate so could take an advil. Sat ran a little and worked in the yard for a few hours. Think I was about 4/7 days on the diet. Been a very slow month for me losing weight but I've maintained well and have improved fitness. Will keep at it!

    You are inspiring :). Thanks :)
  • arguablysamson
    arguablysamson Posts: 1,709 Member
    ...and the good news just keeps pouring in for Bob!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Well All,

    Hate to disappoint after the praise but last week was a little rough. Was out of town for work all week and didn't do the diet (ate lunches and dinner with others). Ended up gaining a few lbs. By Monday of this week had lost it all again so didn't lose but didn't gain either. I also ended up injuring myself this Monday. I went for a run and only made it a few minutes and my right calf seized up on me. I think I hurt it the Friday before doing fast strides after a 30-min run. That was dumb! I will probably miss a week or so of running and then hope to get back into it. My faster stuff should just be easy pace work a little faster than 5k pace and not fast stuff, especially after running some distance.
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    edited April 2016
    Been reading Jason Fung's book, "The Obesity Code". Interesting discussion on how insulin's role in weight gain and I found the part on insulin resistance especially interesting. I buy what he has to say (don't think some of his logical buildup was that sound but most was IMO) but I also think cals do matter where it appears that he downplays it a lot.

    He basically said:
    1. lower insulin levels by not being stressed (stress causes increased cortisol which increases insulin)
    2. lower insulin by working on being more insulin sensitive by fasting
    3. lower insulin by not eating refined carbs, especially sugars

    That is what I got out of it.
    Was interesting to learn that some foods increase insulin (proteins) while not significantly increasing blood glucose levels.

    He states that the bodies weight set point is nudged up by high insulin levels and can be lowered by having periods of low insulin.

    Made me want to change my grazing for my 3 hour window to not include any sugary stuff and maybe not graze at all and have a shorter eating window although a 21 hour fast is probably about as good as a 23 hour fast for helping with the insulin sensitivity. It would probably only help with reduced cals.
  • Nevadaden
    Nevadaden Posts: 971 Member
    I'm reading it also, Bob. I like (1) and (2) of your summary above...I confess I'm resistant to (3)....but I certainly respect your determination, if you decide to cut down the sugary stuff.

  • arguablysamson
    arguablysamson Posts: 1,709 Member
    Nice book summation!
  • arguablysamson
    arguablysamson Posts: 1,709 Member
    ...and I know what it's like to have a calve seize up. I hate it when that happens.
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Well,

    I haven't been on here for a long time. Here is an update.
    My calf is still giving me problems which is a real bummer. I've gone a couple of weeks of doing nothing on it to let it heal. It seems to be getting better and I've walked slowly on the level for an hour ok. Today, I tried walking up an incline and I could only go for about 4 minutes and it started hurting so it still isn't right. I'm reduced to upper body weight lifting only. this has been going on for over 4 weeks now.

    I think I've put on about 5-6 lbs in the last 6-7 weeks (about half is food weight and the other half probably is real weight gain). I haven't been very diligent doing the diet the last two weeks and haven't done it much at all and was only about 50% compliant for a few weeks before that. I had a week of family vacation, a week of travel for work and eating lunches and dinners with people. Then I got hurt and lazy and then the last 10 days I've been out of it due to my mother passing away and dealing with that. Didn't feel like dieting much with that going on and was bombarded with all sorts of sympathy foods people brought over and me being home for about 9 days while I planned her funeral and took care of that and traveled to another state to inter her. That was a real bummer and I miss her (she lived with me for the last 6-years). She was almost 88. She was fine a week from last Monday, just feeling a little sick. By evening she was having serious issues and we called the ambulance. She lost conciousness that night at about midnight and never really regained it and was gone by early Wed morning. She had a bad case of pneumonia and it took her very quick. She was driving the day she went into the hospital and walked regularly taking 30-minute walks. I'm glad she went quick though. Her blood oxygen level went so low I don't think she would have recovered well if she would have recovered. She is with my dad now and I believe she is in a better place.

    Now I have to get back at it. I think only gaining about 5-6 lbs through all that wasn't too bad and I think three days on the diet and I will probably only be a couple of lbs above my low so even doing this part time has been fairly successful for maintenance.

    Hope everyone else is doing well.

    Take care.

  • arguablysamson
    arguablysamson Posts: 1,709 Member
    So sorry to hear, man. It happens. Glad she is no longer suffering. With age, the body just can't keep functional through much trauma. A clean break is better.

    You'll reclaim your rhythm and be going good again soon.
  • Nevadaden
    Nevadaden Posts: 971 Member
    I'm sorry to hear it, Bob. I've hit a rough patch myself, but nothing like what you have been through. I'm ready to recommit also. Sending good thoughts your way!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Trying a new twist, for desert, instead of an occasional bowl of ice cream, I'm having a bowl of no-sugar added cottage cheese and fruit or berries and cream. Still has some cals but not the sugary type.
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Was able to walk for an hour at a decent pace today! Yea. Will give it one more week of walking and then will ease back into running.
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    edited June 2016
    Hello all!

    I haven't posted for awhile so here goes. I have gotten over my leg injury and am back walking an hour 3xweek with a 20 min jog included. I'm trying to turn the whole thing into a run gradually.

    My weight has stayed the same since about the beginning of April at about 215 (sw was 252). I haven't been doing OMAD much and am doing more of a maintenance routine of about a 16:8 type of fast. Although I haven't lost more weight, I've been able to maintain well even though I went a long time without exercise due to hurt leg. I'm hoping with the leg better and jogging and the maint fast routine that I will start losing again. If that doesn't work, then I will need to do some longer fasts.

    Had a daughter get married last week and reception was in my yard so I've been really busy getting ready for that. I have another daughter getting married at the end of July so another round of being really busy.

    Take care all
  • arguablysamson
    arguablysamson Posts: 1,709 Member
    blambo61 wrote: »
    Hello all!

    I haven't posted for awhile so here goes. I have gotten over my leg injury and am back walking an hour 3xweek with a 20 min jog included. I'm trying to turn the whole thing into a run gradually.

    My weight has stayed the same since about the beginning of April at about 215 (sw was 252). I haven't been doing OMAD much and am doing more of a maintenance routine of about a 16:8 type of fast. Although I haven't lost more weight, I've been able to maintain well even though I went a long time without exercise due to hurt leg. I'm hoping with the leg better and jogging and the maint fast routine that I will start losing again. If that doesn't work, then I will need to do some longer fasts.

    Had a daughter get married last week and reception was in my yard so I've been really busy getting ready for that. I have another daughter getting married at the end of July so another round of being really busy.

    Take care all

    Always great to read your updates!

    It's almost good your weight has stayed the same; you taught yourself you can maintain. And now, when you go to lose again, you will be ready to make progress faster than before.

    Congrats on the marriage--and the one to come!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    edited June 2016
    I am really happy about being able to maintain. My weight gain started in my mid 30s (im mid 50s now) and went from about 180 to 256 last year. I did get it down several years ago by watching what I ate and skipping lunches (fruit only) but got injured and got crazy hungry with that diet and gained it all back and some in about 6 months. With this diet (omad at the end of the day and exercise), I dropped 42 lbs (252 to 210) and didnt suffer nearly as much as eating breakfasts and dinners and skipping lunch. Even without exercise recently (injury), death of mom, two daughters getting married, and big issues at work, vacation, and work travel, I've been able to maintain on a 16:8 type diet when the omad was too difficult because of all that stuff going on. I'm working out again and am starting back a little with omad and am still doing the 16:8 most days. I think I should start losing again. Key for me is to not start eating for the day, even if I only make it to lunch (super easy if been doing omad) for maintenance and if I want to lose, then I need to do some omad! I think people should try to not get discouraged if having a hard time doing omad and should at least do a minimal fast like 16:8 during those times so wont gain the weight back and then when we get our feet back under us, we can do some more omad! Thanks for all the help, I'm really grateful to have lost a lot of weight and can maintain also!
  • arguablysamson
    arguablysamson Posts: 1,709 Member
    Buddy, you are another inspiration that people can and do maintain. That's why I made you a group leader!
  • Abm4n
    Abm4n Posts: 529 Member
    Maintenance is a small victory in itself. Sometimes I think that we need to stabilise our weight for a little while to "lock in" the changes. Great to hear of your progress.
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    edited July 2016
    Ran an 8:30 min-mile today (1600m) on the track (4500ft elevation). A group gets together every month and runs a handicapped mile where everyone starts so that everyone finishes about the same time. Biggest improvement wins getting to keep a golden spray-painted running shoe (mounted on a wooden trophy stand) for the month. It was my 1st mile time trial in about 8-years. You have to have a least two times to compete for the golden shoe award. Was fun! Need to lose another 20-30 lbs and train more so can run faster. It's really funny being excited about an 8:30 mile though but a year ago I could probably only do 1/4 mile at a 12:00 min-mile pace (maybe a little farther but not faster).
  • arguablysamson
    arguablysamson Posts: 1,709 Member
    Excellent. That is a very good speed!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    edited July 2016
    Howdy everyone.

    Well I haven't been doing OMAD much (have been doing a 16:8 IF) and over the last 4 months my weight crept up from about 211 to 219. Last week I was at scout camp all week and decided I wasn't even going to try the 16:8 (I was over food for the camp and I just didn't want to deal with it). Thought I would gain a lot. Came home and Sun morning was 221! Yikes. A lot of that was food weight since I did eat a lot. I did OMAD Sunday, Monday, and today and and this morning I was 218 and after a bike ride this afternoon I was 215 (dehydrated). I felt really good on the ride and went hard for about 8-9 miles. I'm now up to about 50-min runs 3xweek and riding the bike a little once a week. It has been fun getting back in shape (last year at this time I could barely walk due to gout issues and when not having gout could maybe manage 1/2 mile jog at 12min/mile pace due to being overweight [about 252 lbs] and out of shape). I've kind of gotten off track since I was just in a maintenance mode and was doing workouts before lunch and then would eat a light lunch (hence 16:8 diet). I like to eat though and the weight has been creeping up even with the exercise so I need to do some more OMAD. I plan on exercising at the end of the fast like I used to since that worked well and will allow me to do OMAD. I was working out earlier to avoid the heat of the day but I can handle the heat if I wear a wet hat and a wet t-shirt when I run (not humid here and it provides evaporative cooling). Going back to the afternoons for working out will make OMAD much easier. I still notice that while on OMAD, my heart gets a rest from digestion and it will be in the low 40s but when I eat it will immediately go to the mid 50's (before exercising). Good luck everyone. I think I should be 217 or 218 in the morning and might be able to get to 216 or 217 by end of the week. I have a daughter getting married this Friday though so that may throw some kinks into the plan.
  • OMADing1
    OMADing1 Posts: 337 Member
    blambo61 wrote: »
    Howdy everyone.

    Well I haven't been doing OMAD much (have been doing a 16:8 IF) and over the last 4 months my weight crept up from about 211 to 219. Last week I was at scout camp all week and decided I wasn't even going to try the 16:8 (I was over food for the camp and I just didn't want to deal with it). Thought I would gain a lot. Came home and Sun morning was 221! Yikes. A lot of that was food weight since I did eat a lot. I did OMAD Sunday, Monday, and today and and this morning I was 218 and after a bike ride this afternoon I was 215 (dehydrated). I felt really good on the ride and went hard for about 8-9 miles. I'm now up to about 50-min runs 3xweek and riding the bike a little once a week. It has been fun getting back in shape (last year at this time I could barely walk due to gout issues and when not having gout could maybe manage 1/2 mile jog at 12min/mile pace due to being overweight [about 252 lbs] and out of shape). I've kind of gotten off track since I was just in a maintenance mode and was doing workouts before lunch and then would eat a light lunch (hence 16:8 diet). I like to eat though and the weight has been creeping up even with the exercise so I need to do some more OMAD. I plan on exercising at the end of the fast like I used to since that worked well and will allow me to do OMAD. I was working out earlier to avoid the heat of the day but I can handle the heat if I wear a wet hat and a wet t-shirt when I run (not humid here and it provides evaporative cooling). Going back to the afternoons for working out will make OMAD much easier. I still notice that while on OMAD, my heart gets a rest from digestion and it will be in the low 40s but when I eat it will immediately go to the mid 50's (before exercising). Good luck everyone. I think I should be 217 or 218 in the morning and might be able to get to 216 or 217 by end of the week. I have a daughter getting married this Friday though so that may throw some kinks into the plan.

    Welcome back Bob and congrats to your baby girl getting married. Have a great time and you've got a lot of proven experience with Omad, so though the battle is real, I know you will accomplished your goal. I'm so glad you're back on board as I'm starting and am looking forward to your updates, comments and suggestions!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Was about 215 this morning so From Sun tell Friday (OMAD every day) went from 221 to 215. I haven 't been doing it so am getting the big 1st week loss.

    Taking a small break right now from daughters wedding this morning and reception tonight. Had a lunch after wedding so no OMAD. Got to go!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    newmeadow wrote: »
    blambo61 wrote: »
    Was about 215 this morning so From Sun tell Friday (OMAD every day) went from 221 to 215. I haven 't been doing it so am getting the big 1st week loss.

    Taking a small break right now from daughters wedding this morning and reception tonight. Had a lunch after wedding so no OMAD. Got to go!

    Eat up and have a wonderful time @blambo61 - This is an important day for you and one you'll always remember fondly.

    If you have time at some point afterwards, would you mind comparing the daily 23 hour fast to the 16:8 method you've been using?

    I'm curious if you think the daily 23 hour fast is more conducive to weight loss than the other, as you have months of experience doing both consistently. Thanks!

    My OMAD diet has been about a 21:3 6xweek with one cheat day which was a 16:8 half of the time or just start eating at breakfast. I did count calories for a while but didn't ever have a set calorie goal to meet and ate how I felt like but was probably influenced some when I did count calories to eat less calories. I tried to make sure I got adequate protein during my eating window by taking whey protein when needed (goal was 120 g of protein for the day). Would take a multivitamin also.

    For 16:8 (was probably more like a 14:10), I would eat lunch and most of the time would try to eat just a salad with some protein in it. During a lot of this time, I had some injuries and didn't work out a lot so the little weight gain I got might not of happened if I was able to work out. I tried not to snack but would eat lunch and then in the evenings I would eat dinner and would graze rest of the evening (same as for the 21:3 type diet).

    I think the 21:3 is far better for losing weight because once a person starts eating, it is really easy to keep eating. Even with both of these diets, I've always eaten as I pleased in the eating window in the evenings. If I open up my eating window too wide, I won't lose weight eating that way on the 16:8 but can maintain fairly well doing that.

    If I eat lunch it stretches my stomach and I can eat more for dinner than if I skipped lunch. That is another reason why the 16:8 doesn't work as well for me.

    Now on the other hand, a consistent 16:8 is far better than someone giving up on a 21:3 or OMAD diet and having no control at all IMO! I think a lot of people fall into that trap. If I were having a rough time of 21:3 or OMAD, I would at least try to do a 16:8 or as long as possible on those days and come back and try for a longer fast the next day. We don't have to hit a home run everyday in my opinion and little steps are better than going backwards. My opinion only.

    I think for best weight loss OMAD is far better with the one-plate rule or some calorie limit or goal, then next best is what I've done and that is a small eating window with still enough of a cal deficit that you lose weight, and then next best is shorter fasts and just eating small amounts to get you to your evening meal. If I have totally blown it and binged away for a day (I have rarely done that), I felt like I needed it and didn't worry about it and just tried to get back on the horse the next day. The extra weight for a single binge day is mostly just food weight and will be gone in 2-3 days of OMAD. An opportunity will be lost in those couple of days to lose more fat but there won't be a big gain either. If we link those binge days together or they become frequent, then that is a problem. These are just how I feel and think and it works for me. Those thought patterns may or may not be good for someone else and might get them into trouble or might work for them also.

    I ran a 3:13 half mile today at the beginning of a workout which I thought was decent for me!
  • arguablysamson
    arguablysamson Posts: 1,709 Member
    Like your weight loss track record, your mile times are also impressive!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Joe,

    Your the man! What you have done is truly impressive!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    newmeadow wrote: »
    blambo61 wrote: »
    newmeadow wrote: »
    blambo61 wrote: »
    Was about 215 this morning so From Sun tell Friday (OMAD every day) went from 221 to 215. I haven 't been doing it so am getting the big 1st week loss.

    Taking a small break right now from daughters wedding this morning and reception tonight. Had a lunch after wedding so no OMAD. Got to go!

    Eat up and have a wonderful time @blambo61 - This is an important day for you and one you'll always remember fondly.

    If you have time at some point afterwards, would you mind comparing the daily 23 hour fast to the 16:8 method you've been using?

    I'm curious if you think the daily 23 hour fast is more conducive to weight loss than the other, as you have months of experience doing both consistently. Thanks!

    My OMAD diet has been about a 21:3 6xweek with one cheat day which was a 16:8 half of the time or just start eating at breakfast. I did count calories for a while but didn't ever have a set calorie goal to meet and ate how I felt like but was probably influenced some when I did count calories to eat less calories. I tried to make sure I got adequate protein during my eating window by taking whey protein when needed (goal was 120 g of protein for the day). Would take a multivitamin also.

    For 16:8 (was probably more like a 14:10), I would eat lunch and most of the time would try to eat just a salad with some protein in it. During a lot of this time, I had some injuries and didn't work out a lot so the little weight gain I got might not of happened if I was able to work out. I tried not to snack but would eat lunch and then in the evenings I would eat dinner and would graze rest of the evening (same as for the 21:3 type diet).

    I think the 21:3 is far better for losing weight because once a person starts eating, it is really easy to keep eating. Even with both of these diets, I've always eaten as I pleased in the eating window in the evenings. If I open up my eating window too wide, I won't lose weight eating that way on the 16:8 but can maintain fairly well doing that.

    If I eat lunch it stretches my stomach and I can eat more for dinner than if I skipped lunch. That is another reason why the 16:8 doesn't work as well for me.

    Now on the other hand, a consistent 16:8 is far better than someone giving up on a 21:3 or OMAD diet and having no control at all IMO! I think a lot of people fall into that trap. If I were having a rough time of 21:3 or OMAD, I would at least try to do a 16:8 or as long as possible on those days and come back and try for a longer fast the next day. We don't have to hit a home run everyday in my opinion and little steps are better than going backwards. My opinion only.

    I think for best weight loss OMAD is far better with the one-plate rule or some calorie limit or goal, then next best is what I've done and that is a small eating window with still enough of a cal deficit that you lose weight, and then next best is shorter fasts and just eating small amounts to get you to your evening meal. If I have totally blown it and binged away for a day (I have rarely done that), I felt like I needed it and didn't worry about it and just tried to get back on the horse the next day. The extra weight for a single binge day is mostly just food weight and will be gone in 2-3 days of OMAD. An opportunity will be lost in those couple of days to lose more fat but there won't be a big gain either. If we link those binge days together or they become frequent, then that is a problem. These are just how I feel and think and it works for me. Those thought patterns may or may not be good for someone else and might get them into trouble or might work for them also.

    I ran a 3:13 half mile today at the beginning of a workout which I thought was decent for me!

    Thanks for this detailed reply. The thought patterns you describe in viewing how OMAD works make a lot of sense to me and don't seem troublesome at all. I can't imagine running in this heat, but if you have the health to withstand it, cheers :smiley: I hope you had a wonderful time at the wedding.

    A person can handle a fair amount of heat if it is dry heat and you wet yourself down. I have a cloth over my head and down my neck with a baseball cap on that I soak before I run and I completely soak my shirt before I run. The evaporative cooling works. If you dry out you get hot and it won't work in high humidity. Be careful though. I learned this growing up in Vegas and running track in high school there.
  • OMADing1
    OMADing1 Posts: 337 Member
    Checking in on you Bob, to see how you're doing and feeling and also to thank you for the encouraging post on my thread!
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Well I lost 1.0 lbs this week so that was good. I think I could have gotten to 2 lbs down but had people in town for work and I had to do lunch and dinners with them and it threw me a little bit. I think I still may realize some more losses later that happened but couldn't see because of extra food weight being carried due to the extra meals.

    Had a really good workout this morning. Went 40-min continuous run on the Bonneville Shoreline trail by Layton Ut, then walked about 15 minutes back, then ran 25 more minutes back (total 65 minutes ran), then finished by walking back the last 15 minutes (30 min walking). First 40 minutes ran at a good pace for me and didn't stop while going up some steep sections.

    After the run, came home, cooked and ate 5-scrambled eggs w/cheese (my cheat day but not a lot after the morning exercise) and then went to Lagoon Amusement Park with 10-yr old daughter and spend about 2 1/2 - 3hrs walking around there and going on rides (walked probably another 90 minutes). Was a lot of fun but my feet are toast and I need to chill for a bit. I was bonking a little from all of that at the park and split a churro and soda with daughter so I could get some blood sugar back up. Now home and resting/recovering and eating some. Good day so far.
  • arguablysamson
    arguablysamson Posts: 1,709 Member
    Nice to hear. My 4 1/2 mile run left me in pain the other day. I go back to the knee specialist this Wednesday.

    How is the family?
  • blambo61
    blambo61 Posts: 4,372 Member
    Family is fine thanks. Two daughters married in two months - holy cow! Thank heavens I just had to show up mostly and the wife and the girls handled most of it.

    Knee problems are not fun. I strained mine last Saturday but was over it good enough to run on Wed without it bothering me. What is your knee issue?
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