Official diabetes diet misinformation - any candidates for the Darwin Awards?
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »There's a funny dialog on this blog post that reflects the typical duet teachings. It's really funny and also sad because of how true it really is.
"in your addled state, you’ve failed to understand that diabetes is a PROGRESSIVE disease. And your diabetes hasn’t progressed at all. In fact, it seems to be quite stalled."
FACEPALM!
https://eathropology.com/2015/09/29/1252/
Yee-owza! That pretty well takes the proverbial cake.
I enjoyed, er... this graphic.
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Facebook post from an Australian Diabetic Living Magazine for a high sugar dessert using Tim Tams.
https://www.facebook.com/australiandiabeticlivingmagazine/photos/a.132713940138062.32349.124159664326823/942079345868180/?type=3&hc_location=ufi
Some low carb names many of us are familiar with in the comments conversation including Richard Feinman! He's even apparently making a call to action and offering to get involved
You gotta read the comments. Look for RD Dikeman from Dr Bernsteins videos and the facebook group TypeOneGrit, Richard Morris of 2KetoDudes and Stewart McLean of facebook group In Support of Paleo and Low Carb
Since it was just shared I assumed it was a current thing. It turns out it's a year old.
Makes it more sad that only 3 people liked Richards comment and nobody even responded to it.
All these people had plenty too say on the post but nobody wanted to take any real action...2 -
Thanks for sharing this piece of craziness.
Feinman et al., are the conscience that's missing from the mainstream diabetes scene... .0 -
I love Feinman.... I subscribe to his blog. He's a very busy guy and doesn't post often, but when he does - amazing!
https://feinmantheother.com/4 -
canadjineh wrote: »I love Feinman.... I subscribe to his blog. He's a very busy guy and doesn't post often, but when he does - amazing!
https://feinmantheother.com/
FYI, you can snag his book, The World Turned Upside Down from him directly for around $15US on eBay.
He and Bernstein may have had the same wet nurse.2 -
KetoGirl83 wrote: »Yes, that's standard advice. They don't seem to notice that it does NOT work.
My grandmother died of diabetic complications, that's what she ate all her life. Bland, tasteless, boring, depressing food, until she was nothing but skin and bones and had to make an effort to eat. She never cheated, not even at Christmas or birthdays. No matter what everyone else was eating, she had her own food. Still died after having first a foot, then a leg, amputated. When I got the same advice I said no, thank you.
I am SO MAD at the lies being spread around by doctors and diabetes "educators" that should know better, and so sad for all the people trying their best and still getting worse every day.
Your grandmother's experience was much like my dad's. Very sad, not everyone can have a low-fat and high carb/sugar diet and not get very sick. It's irresponsible for doctors to not do research, but I also get how they are literally indoctrinated with so much information and with busy schedules that it can be hard to keep up (and given our health care crises over the past couple decades, it's only gotten worse). This is no way intended to excuse medical professionals, but the amount of misinformation and bad science that has been spread about and taken for good info is monumental in this day and age. I have a very good internet friend who is has her medical degrees and is a patient advocate and staunch researcher. I'd rather take my advice from her, than a GP these days.0 -
Docs these days actually need someone to curate the best info from multiple studies so they don't have to get it from the PharmaReps that drop off drug samples and 'informational' pamphlets.
Hmmmm, interesting marketing potential there for a new 'medical research curator' position. Could be tailored to whatever your physician employer deals with.... maybe more towards diabetes, specific cancers, etc; or geriatric concerns, or pediatrics, etc....
If I was younger, I might offer myself as that person to docs in my area....
go ahead, run with it you guys
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canadjineh wrote: »Docs these days actually need someone to curate the best info from multiple studies so they don't have to get it from the PharmaReps that drop off drug samples and 'informational' pamphlets.
Hmmmm, interesting marketing potential there for a new 'medical research curator' position. Could be tailored to whatever your physician employer deals with.... maybe more towards diabetes, specific cancers, etc; or geriatric concerns, or pediatrics, etc....
If I was younger, I might offer myself as that person to docs in my area....
go ahead, run with it I you guys
Think big! Here's one for ya. Wanna live in SF?
https://www.virtahealth.com
Lots of current openings.
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Here's one on the chimerical connection between diabetes and would-be "gluten deficiency"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/gluten-free-diets-may-be-tied-to-an-increased-risk-of-type-2-diabetes/2017/03/13/4ce6dc26-059f-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html
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http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2017/03/gluten-diabetes-headlines-get-wrong/3 -
Here's one on the chimerical connection between diabetes and would-be "gluten deficiency"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/gluten-free-diets-may-be-tied-to-an-increased-risk-of-type-2-diabetes/2017/03/13/4ce6dc26-059f-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html
Antidote::
http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2017/03/gluten-diabetes-headlines-get-wrong/
Ugh! I saw that article everywhere recently!
It's so stupid how they don't seem to realize all the "gluten free" processed carbs people tend to eat constantly..... oh sure! There's no waaay those could be the issue huh?!?! Lol
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Here's one on the chimerical connection between diabetes and would-be "gluten deficiency"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/gluten-free-diets-may-be-tied-to-an-increased-risk-of-type-2-diabetes/2017/03/13/4ce6dc26-059f-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html
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http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2017/03/gluten-diabetes-headlines-get-wrong/
The other thing they don't get is that there are about 1000 different variations of gluten and when they say "gluten-free" they are only referring to one of them just because it is the most studied. In reality, if it is a grain, it has a form of gluten. If you have a gluten sensitivity in regard to the one, it is possible and even likely you have a sensitivity to others and possibly all of them. Replacing wheat with corn or any other grain is not really going gluten free.
And, just like with low carb, low fat and everything else out there, gluten free has turned into something companies can use as a marketing ploy to sell frankenfoods.5 -
I like San Francisco.... VirtaHealth sounds awesome. Unfortunately I am not a "Back End Systems Engineer." (I checked their 'Careers' page )1
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canadjineh wrote: »I like San Francisco.... VirtaHealth sounds awesome. Unfortunately I am not a "Back End Systems Engineer." (I checked their 'Careers' page )
I saw that too. However, I only like SF in terms of visiting. I could never live there. To used to having no state income tax, no city income tax and a very reasonable cost of living to move to California.1 -
Holy crap I've gone down a serious rabbit hole of reading this morning. I am talking with a co-worker over this and she hit the same stonewall with her doctor. You HAVE to eat all these carbs or how will all the medications work?? So much for being proactive and involved with our health. This makes me wonder what my doc is going to tell me on Monday (blood draw was yesterday for dizziness...upped Mag and that helped). I left her printed out information on keto and it's myths so we'll see. I trust her for most things and she is open to less traditional solutions to problems but I'm still honestly not sure what she'll say.
But hey, if my blood sugars are down I'm going to use that fact to my advantage.2 -
canadjineh wrote: »I like San Francisco.... VirtaHealth sounds awesome. Unfortunately I am not a "Back End Systems Engineer." (I checked their 'Careers' page )
Is that he same thing as a proctologist?
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LOL, if I were a Back End Systems Engineer, I guess I'd know if it's the same thing.1
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canadjineh wrote: »LOL, if I were a Back End Systems Engineer, I guess I'd know if it's the same thing.
Then, you're not.... a proctologist, either?0 -
Unfortunately, more candidates have surfaced.
These appeared in the same health.com click-bait piece on how to lose weight.
Diet Crutches: What Works, What Doesn't
Trying to lose weight?
Here are 17 diet tricks that may or may not speed up your results.
By Ella Quittner
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20517473,00.html
1. This contrary-to-fact assertion is from Amy Shapiro, RD, founder of Real Nutrition NYC:"When people skip meals, they think they're saving calories," says Shapiro. But the habit always backfires. "It can wreak havoc on their metabolism, and they tend to eat more later because they're voraciously hungry."
Some research shows that as long as calories stay the same, it doesn't matter if you eat small quantities more often or large quantities less often.
Eating more small meals may help dieters to quell cravings, though, and it also discourages bingeing later, says Shapiro, who recommends meals of less than 500 calories every three to four hours.
2. Better grab a pail for this one, courtesy of one Sonthe Burge, RD, a nutritionist.Bad news: Adding more bacon to your diet won't cause the pounds to melt away. That's because the addition of protein to the diet doesn't cause weight loss itself. But switching out a higher fat protein source, such as pork sausage, for a lean one like chicken or salmon does help, says Burge.
"You can't just eat protein to lose weight. When you do that, your body starts burning fat for energy," she says, because it will produce ketones, compounds that can be harmful to the brain. But consuming lean protein and good carbohydrates (like whole grains) allows your body to get the energy it needs without the added fat.
Perhaps the author should get a finder's fee for locating modern RDs willing to offer up such gems!
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Ha! So very harmful to the brain it's used to treat traumatic brain injuries, epilepsy, and so many other things I can't even...!!!
That's a gem! A terrible "asparagus" covered gem!1 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Ha! So very harmful to the brain it's used to treat traumatic brain injuries, epilepsy, and so many other things I can't even...!!!
That's a gem! A terrible "asparagus" covered gem!
Well stated. I might even go so far as to call it a *kitten*-*asparagus* covered gem....2